now you can say that potentially we could maybe see a delay that the ceasefire is not going to take effect at $830.00 local time, which is in half an hour from now that it could be delayed by hours or maybe a day, but there is so much international pressure writing on this that most people believe that it really would be shocking if the cease fire at the 11th hour fails. okay, stephanie will come back to you. i want to go to gaza and speak to honey, my food, get some reaction from daryl bella in central gulf and honey, since we last spoke, we've had this news coming in from the prime minister, is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu, that the cx 5 will not begin without a list of the captives that a jew to be released today. 3 women over the age of 50. we believe a any reaction yet to this news of the lien. as soon as the, the, the news is started to circulate among people here i just find out we,

we have people who are starting to pour into the hospital and we are waiting for the moment that this, these fire is going to take effect here. they will hear the announcements, hear us talking about it, but as the news is started circulated, there is much of disappointment. and it's uh, as a couple of the people who are around the, the, our setup here, visit express that this is exactly what they have been talking about. the cautious with skepticism that this phase is going to be very difficult. it's going to be the most of the challenge and start of the a more sustainable these 5 if it doesn't happen today, they're seeing and they're expecting to continue. and as, as i'm speaking right now, we could hear the sound of our dealer. and this is a, quite a practical trend lation of what these really prime minister has said that there is no c expired, is going to begin at 830 as long as the list of names are not handed. today's really aside. and as of this moment, we can see with what's going on with the,

with the heavy artillery, with the drones that hovered all night long. and now this morning, movement became very restricted that given the, the weight uh how much then its elements on the ground are communicating is not the conventional way that we use it. is not anyone picking up the phone and decide where to go or where to find someone. it's much more complex than with drones deployed in the skies of the, of the gaza strip and, and with with fighters. yet movements become very, very hindered and very restricted as a step that made reference to that. so it's, it's the reason this could be the technical reasons how is referring to that it's who it's not moving freely and it will take time to get the list. uh, because as of now nobody knows where the hostages or the cost is at and it will save time. and the pop for 3 days have been quite intense in terms of bombardment,

in terms of the drones deploy and sky, the 5 digit 2. we expected that none of this happened in the past 3 days because of all the conditions that created around this issue. right? that's an interesting point. as you say, that the strikes have been increasing and the voracity over the last few days. but i just want to go over some of the details of the stage, one of the cease fire, where the expectation was that homos would release sachi 3 is really captive. that would include children, female soldiers, civilians, and men over the age of 50. this was over the course of the next 6 weeks, and i believe the names of those 33 have been released. so what seems to be the issue right now is that the 3 that are due to be released later today, the names of those captives, those women who are over the age of 50,

we would assume have not been released. so it seems, it seems a little strange to think uh those names and no out the what, why those names not been released? do we think as well? again, just think of the past the months, the, the intense bombing campaign and literally have that prevented people from teasing their lives together from morning if properly for grieving, if properly. now imagine and mac, and isn't that in bold, going on the ground, particularly if you are a on the last of your one did. if you're a member of the fight in a group, then you are moving based on instructions that are move together from one person to another, a chain of less than yours, moving messages and communicating on the ground. it takes long time. it takes that

also a great deal of caution as well as of, of, of diligence it to avoid being harmed. so our expectation here, this is part of, of the, of the process that has seeking so long in the past. if you do that have been hampered by the ongoing bombing campaign. the stop for debt when the october 7th hop, grant and copies were brought to the god just give we're talking about the entire eastern borders. so we have copies everywhere. and it doesn't surprise me if there are, some of them are in northern god or dogs, a city horse, into an area or the a roof i city, nobody knows the exact location and the 50 months of devastation on the ongoing times a technically prevented anyone and from the, the top of the parent and the leadership to the grass roots the ground from communicating a properly located exactly at each one of these uh cop did about there were about

the, about their, their, their, their, their safety and all of this in both it and the reason for it is the, the conditions that have been created that not only prevented this particular group of people from knowing exactly where are the top does that have to give their names and to have them. but also the tall on civilian that don't forget we have families . entire family have not seen very close this family member, their mother the father for 15 months. so it just only normal, normal by products of these on usually unimpressed it ended difficult living conditions. okay, honey, i just want to do a quick a time check that has just gone 6 minutes. pause a local time in gaza in about 24 minutes is when a that long awaited garza sees fine hostage really still was

oh is expected to begin. but in the last few minutes, as well as the safe spot, i will not begin without a list of captives and due to be released later today. honey. so if i can just go back to you in, in the last few days we've been talking about residents in gauze are packing the a few belongings, getting themselves ready to return back home. the feelings, of course, you were saying very mixed people not only excited, but also unsure if whether the sci fi would go ahead or not. i mean, how, how glossing would it be for the people that if, if the safe spot doesn't begin in the next 23 minutes or so. well, let's hope not. let's hope this is not going to happen enough. the fire will start because as of now, people have been to drain completely. there's so many times they have to live down into possibly disappointed by the many do failing decisions that does not provide

them with the opportunity to breathe. if the dog in the killing guys have this woman, if it takes effect at $830.00, it's an opportunity to, for the tables degree, then a chance for them to use the more none of the re, the properly for the past 50 months or the many family members do these hot and we have lots, but this has also been involved with so many skepticism. again, because your optimism, particularly as, as many people express it in the past, it is the day that the cease fire agreement mazda announces many people that is out there are, there's a movie until there is a d. and i think that the probably maybe not knowing what the details of what was going to happen next. but a statement of from the prime minister office is an evidence to what stephen were referring to due to the many times you were late down there many times to were disappointed. so many times that is really military went on and continue with the

department with a distraction with the desk. we had people here inside the office because that bidding for well in the morning for their family members, then in the evening we so those very particular people in the lead on the ground. so these are the kind of, of conditions that meet people who lose their hold entirely in the fire. the lines are a lot of people now gathering at this point. these bar or the deal is not due until 830, and it's been a no, no, no solid. the ground other than this is not going to be a deal on deal would be again, would be lit down one more time. it'd be very devastating for them to see that things are progressing rather than making progress in the forward. okay, honey, i wouldn't even ask now, honey, my mood that for us and dear, i'm paula. let's speak to tom, her commitments, associate professor of public policy, the doe institute for graduate studies. he's also a specialist of conflict resolution and international aid. uh,

many things timer for being here. uh. what are the practical challenges for him us at this point that would prevent it from releasing the names of these hostages? very tough question and many um, but if we wanna look at the contract, is this what it has taken so far more than 15 months? it's uh, we're talking a very complicated minute to patients from both sides actually, how mass also has managed or succeeded so far to keep these captives. what about the model does uh no one knows. i mean, so, and so there is an intelligence. what for that he had aspects and there is also one aspect what, how may i ask, who wants to make sure that that does not expose the whereabouts of the rest of the captives? because we're talking about a multi phase approach to end this war. so no one wants to burn the cards,

they hold an impasse, escaped as the captives. so the captive could be anywhere the extra to the couldn't be. busy and i mean, i'm just assuming here somewhere where is a, is i'm still in control, some parts of because they could be in some high adults. would the minute 3 wouldn't promise is not sure whether they're liable or not. so don't so many picnic kind of disease and i'm not the minute to expedite but, but, but that's my guess. i mean that it's so hard for how mass also given that isn't and it's the means inside because of didn't that was we to, it's been in control of many parts of the that it's hard for them to confirm or to the 3 i showed open showed that some of these captives are better in their life. no, this is one aspect. another aspect of could be psychological. schroeder's would these ladies have this thing over the last 2 days from stopping to the bombing of those? and this was the man by him as a, by the time as nutrition team and thought that the, the is what it holds its operation over the last 2 days to e mail,

but has to gather information of the whereabouts of these captives. and also to prepare the ness of the ones where i live, the ones were bent and set it up. and is there a deluxe? did not do this. so either or it's a very complex, an operation in c minutes and the wise intelligence wise. a never that is, i still want to believe that there is a will by the 2 parties to at least to ensure that the says stage succeeds. and the what is that the opposite comes out expected as we see now. but, but i think the lead will keep moving. as you say, the psychological impact on both is riley's palestinians in garza and published indians elsewhere around the world, including yourself. you are from god. so we've spoken many, many times about uh, what's been going on in golf over the last 15 months, how much does it mean to you, that in just over 15 minutes the cx 5 does have again. i mean it's,

uh, i mean, i don't know what subscribe this. i mean, this has been isn't inside the war and people's biggest hope and was just to see the kidding stuff until stuff. morning. and, and, and, and this is why i mean, i mean, yes, i mean, we're all very nervous, very cautious people. i'm looking for low to get back to their homes to seem to be loved ones. we're talking about families or supported somebody before more than a year between the north and the south of the guns, a slip so many can so many injured. um, i mean, i mean though, i mean, you can see, i mean, how people are reacting? no, i mean from, from, from the reports coming from because the, some people stopped effecting their stuff and turn to, to their homes and the, the, they might not even find that homes, you know, or, and it's the, but is the positive thing. if i'm you see the positive is that there's indians, i mean, what this war to prove does that, despite this book that at the despite,

is what it's tactics old incentive goals. you know, there's on the side, the goals for the students. they did not go anywhere. and i, for me, that's a big message all for those areas. and also this leads me to the 2nd 4th, is that the thing is, i'm not going anywhere in this conflict. and this is something these ladies have to understand. and the national community and the comforters that support is the less understood. and the only way to end this conflict, it shouldn't be through piece, getting a piece for the 2 nations, but as soon as ever stated, but let's hope that this what's happening now, what's missing out all these efforts, all these attempts to end this war, when eventually lead to a political process, the things that enter this 70 is best conflict, but the thing is they have to be for these seemed like any other nations, a ton there. and you said that you believe that the intention for sci fi is that from both parties, israel and hum us in lights of that comment. i mean,

what did you make of what prime is missing? you all have to say. yes. today is just a few hours before the ceasefire was due to come into play. is talking about the right to return to fighting if necessary. what, what did you make of his comments? i think, i mean, in my opinion, that address to the angry in certain, in coordination in his government that i think coalition log what against the this the see similar to rich and being fee of and he wants to more or less to keep some open channels with these parties, just to convince them to send a message that he did not end this war. but realistically, i think that this word has reached the point where it has exhausted itself that nothing but she's by continuing the me to click on that. and it has the same way as it has been conducting. i mean, it has, it has been by launch destroyed. so what's left to do except for

a video to find in gaza. i'm staying there permanently for expending cousins which both scenarios and a stick in my opinion because there's a way to, i'm is opposing them. and also there will be no expanding because there is no international. i don't how you look at isn't that maybe how many analysts look at it, but it doesn't seem to be the way these rallies have been look at it, looking at it. well. well, let's, let's okay, so here's what we're standing now at this point. 15 months, i've taught this word. there's so many things that i've changed internationally. we have, as i put into a winnings incoming us out of the solution that does not want to see was a bit of a please when it comes to this war it's, it's once for distance itself from the suicide, the board. and we see an incoming president, trump was adamant to stop it, and he keeps threatening to that. that, that's, he needs to see it stopping and turning and isn't there is there's a growing pressure among the population. i mean, i couldn't believe this as

a raise that 70 percent less of his of 8 is want to see the captives back on the scene inside as well. doesn't hesitate a heavy this, they think price. uh, how much deductible anywhere of course, because as we say, i mean that you know the good thing. how much is not the simple because how much is motor presence is related to the concentration is right in the occupation. and this is a politic a means to mean property and it's what it means. so now the shuttle is on the policy on side is reconstruction and unity after this war. and these are too complex files that needs to be addressed in a post priority. so in order when we see all these pictures from an international perspective, from an authentic perspective, i think we have reached the block now. these today, and it's going to brag that they have changed the landscape of the middle east. the neutralize has been the end of the dream, and syria does change with syria. more or less it on is the 3 thing, nick, on brag about these short twins. but when it comes to has a, i think they have achieved what they want from comes to destroy and does

a sadly the soonest how that works. but again, i'm stuck with him as the stuck with but a scene in politics that are stuck with occupation and the legacy of the patient. and this has been the only way to solve this conflict goes through ending occupational negotiations for those not in the. okay. palmer, thank you for now. the time i come over to associate professor public policy, i'm just going to do another quick time check. it is just gone 18 minutes past 8 local time in a in asa is well, uh and that is uh, 618 g m t. we are just about just over 10 minutes away from that loan. the weights have gone to see spot and hostage release deal. and uh, we have heard from premier submission. yeah. who in the minutes coming up to that deal, saying that the seas buy will not begin without a list of captives release by how mazda mazda, of said,

at the delay in providing that list of hostages is due to technical reasons. let's go to stephanie deco. she's live for us in a non because israel has band out his air from appraising that and in the occupied westbank. stephanie. so a quite a fast moving situation in the last few minutes and just another development that i'm seeing on the news was wondering if he can comment on israel saying that it's would cover the body of his soul. jet killed in 2014 hours before the gauze. the ceasefire was due to come into place. what move are you hearing from the is really side. yes, they've confirmed that they recovered the body of orange howell. this is a soldier killed in the 2014 were actually interesting. the i have a personal story to that and myself. and so i meet our cameraman, were in garza during the 2014 war and we were at ship the hospital doing lives. and suddenly, over the loudspeakers,

an announcement came that they had captured from him as that they had captured. and his release soldier and people started celebrating, i'd have, and somebody was telling me that the understanding particularly heard some of the walkie talkie to was that the soldier of and captured alive. this wasn't the case. the soldier at the time was killed and fighting. and how mass managed to get his body and they've been holding it since 2014. since that more now, he was not the body of orange, all was not supposed to be part of this 1st phase. part of the $33.00 hostages, whose names have been issued at the body of this soldier was going to be part of the 2nd phase. we know a lot of the bodies would be handed over to of course, we are very far from that. when you see all the issues in the last hour, up to the 1st phase, but that certainly has happened in the last couple of hours. confirmation just now from these really armeno. so there shouldn't match these really internal security forces that they manage to locate the body. of the soldier killed in 2014, during that more. okay. uh stuff now. uh i wonder if we could just go back

a step. a cars from us did ask for a few extra days, did they not have no financing so that they could arrange for the captive handover and my rights and not a, an israel refused to do that. yes. have mass aust, technically for a week of a cessation of hostilities for a stop and fighting because what you heard, having explain and your guest explained of the logistical nightmare of what it is inside garza, people are not communicating in the normal form and also how mouse doesn't hold all of the hostages. you have other groups that hold the hostages. if you're looking at 15 months of horse, people having to move and move again and move again to locate and to no stake, it's not like they have a, a control room where they knew exactly which hostage was where and how it was being moved. it's simply impossible under those kinds of conditions. so what, how much is all skin for was for a stop and fighting to be able to,

according to how mass get older ducks in a row about who was where now. but they're saying is that that has been the issue when it comes to the technical issue. this has been the issue. we don't know whether at this point in time, what are we? we are 9 minutes to supposedly the start of the ceasefire that they have now handed those names over to a call that i am sure that color is putting immense pressure because a nobody wants to steal to fail be nobody wants this deal to be delayed at this point in time. so again, we'll know in the next 10 minutes whether we have a delay, whether those names have been handed over. and again, those are the names of the 3 captives that should be released today. stephanie, we've been talking to honey and talking to tom over here about how desperately palestinians in gaza and in the rest of the wells, i'm looking forward to the cx 5, which is due to begin in 8 minutes, how much it means to the palestinian people. and many other people around the world,

but it's the same and as well, isn't it? the families of the captives who have been wasting packing uh belongings, getting ready for their friends or families to be released. tell us a bit more about the expectations from israel to with this deal. this yes, i mean these really public has been calling for months for more than a year for this is really government to do more to bring the captives home. it hasn't done so there has been various deals on the table that have come and gone. and in retrospect, and even during the time, even people within the national whose own cabinet were saying that he was covering the deal. even though the blame kept being put on her mouth, it was nothing young who's very reluctant to make any kind of a deal. why? because let's go back to is really politics and something that you will see unfold today the right way. the extreme right way to ministers to parties in espanol,

whose cabinet, these are men, he's not ideal actually aligned with them, but he brought them in because it was the only way for him to return to power as prime minister. they are also his only card to retain his position as prime minister, which has been the case and really has formed the narrative. if you will, of how it is ready. politics has played out over the last 15 months today, you will see the resignation of each more ben give their, the administer of national security. however, he has said that if there is a resumption of war, he will return to the cabinet so he will still stay in government. the government doesn't collapse with his resignation. but why is this significant? because it shows you the pressures and the story of what we've witnessed over the last 50 months in house is really politics has played out. and why these really prime minister has been so reluctant to make a deal. he still didn't want to make a deal. what is different this time? many people do say this is that, you know, the card of donald trump has changed things. donald trump is a man who wants to see a deal. donald trump is

a man who wants to take credit for it. he's a man who wants to do business. he wants to normalize toys with saudi, with israel. he wants to move forward in that way and he doesn't want any more back and forth to take place, which is why many people will tell you despite all this, back and forth at the 11th hour, that this a ceasefire. we'll go ahead, especially the 1st phase, of course, more complicated when we get to the 2nd phase, but trump administration also saying recently that they are going to make sure every step of the way gets done well. so i think just briefly going back to what biden set joe biden on the day the cease fire was signed, he made it very clear. he said, this is, should be a permanent end to the war. and he said, if there are problems with negotiations and this is important, the ceasefire will continue. this is what he said very publicly, despite what nothing else. what netanyahu was saying that he has insurance is from both administrations that he can return to war. so one thing,

what is ready politicians say publicly and now this thing, what is agreed on under the table? okay, stephanie deca the in amman, and we'll leave that for now. let's go back on the ground, 0 balance, central guns, and speak to honey, my food. honey. 5 minutes to go before that long awaited a cease fire in garza is due to begin and the hostage where needs do is uh, potentially expected to start. uh, what is the mood where you are? you are you outside alexa hospital where people are coming and going, what are they saying? what, what are the thoughts as we hear from israel in the last few minutes saying that potentially the deal might not go ahead as planned? well the general mode here, uh billing is people who cannot afford going into another phase. the week solve

that decision. people here are 5 minutes away from the market. they're all they are in the office for a moment here. the audio popular excited come on with the link as you get here and your background. busy people here for around our study here are watching closely and listening to we're saying and we want to make sure that the list has been handed down. there is no waiting time is going to happen right, that everyone is out. and the number of people have been increasing in the past few minutes. more and more we seem to be in by our families come out of from the inside . the journal here are gathering here to the moment where the ceasefire is going to take cold. but also what's interesting here, we see in a google doctor's leaving the emergency department, the i to you and the operating theatre came out. this is the 1st time we've seen this large move doctor coming out. and one thing that do say this is the did the

have not received any single injury? ended up in our town leaking from midnight to now more than an hour. they haven't received a signal coming out from the hospital and join peoples outside of the hospital. there's a whole that the list is going to be handed on the ceasefire with big effect on the, on $830.00 the, the time that has been designated for it to take place. but let me just point something out. there were, there were also some heavy artillery just in the past couple of minutes would be heard from the northern part of the city. that's close enough. they got refuge account. okay, how did that for us in 0 by the in central garza as we are just now, minutes away to that house costs a deadline. local time in garza before that long awaited spot and hostage deal is

due to begins. lot small coverage hit on out of there. i do stay with us the the the could at last to get the young children. it's a horn. i mean, some of the, the the fact by the time i

get in to, to break out in the middle east to bring us peace, to see spar costs. the it is 638 g m t, that's 8 30 in the morning in a gauze, a welcome to all special coverage of the space, 5 between israel hum us, which was supposed to begin right now in garza. this is the scene live in northern garza and con eunice a new day and so much hope an anticipation for a new beginning that guns and bombs would full scotland something not seen in gauze . i felt a.