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the u. a secretary of state antoinette blinking has been saying that's how mass was able to recruit it. many people inside the besieged because district during the war that would compensate for the wars losses. what do you say to that? is that true? yes. how much? uh, we'll continue to fight as long as we have that condition unless we are, we get rid of that condition from us as committed to continual fighting for on independence. so civil industry it for the dignity, i'm see them of all but a scene and people. let's continue a conversation with table companies from the doha institute, east coast. we had about some time to talk about the future of about us in terms of want these ready objectives was to destroy her boss, but come off for a democratically elected political group. and they have organized and administered garza since 2006. you can't seem to demolish and destroy
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a political group, correct? i mean, that's what it, how may i ask what it means? i mean, the people that to consult the in the pursuit for that take a life. it was elected the muffler optically in 2006 and same back on the us. i must also was elect the democratic as was to be the president, the front of state. but both of them, i mean 2006 was the last connections. so both of them lack more or less that the elections legitimacy or the political legitimacy because that i've not been any election since 2006. and then we had the policy in a split and 2007 with each movement to controls of, of, of, of, of its own to the how much time because for the end of us back now if at the or the but a scene i sort of threw it on, but for the has the international legitimacy at a presentation is that it could be nice for the student in the, but the internationally, so everyone can engage with that. that but how this domain is related because there were demands by easily and under us for the to let down if it's weapons recognize,
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is right and condition the, the problem is the also piece that goes and stuff that i promised that if use this because because of the also legacy itself was also ended up really bring anything to fact that which should really result the to be sort of assistance and ending the conflicts. you know, what do we send now? is that this was started on the background, the legacy of dependency in a split. now it seems to me it's ending also what the students split is the uh, is to the front of life. what does that mean for us? it means many it's, i mean it's these many things. i mean it just creates more complexity because how much understands know that even though the, it has to divide this work at the very high and heavy price. because the but as soon as people that, as a well, many of them are not promised also what are the victims of this war? correct. so, i mean, how much is the present? so once i've seen it mentioned enough for but his time, what, what happens now is now once this war is over,
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how much will realize or how much understands that alone it's kind of construct as though it's kind of 3 because it needs the support of everyone else and when really to this stage of discussion, i believe that's more or less how mass will be there between gears in a pragmatic, politically, yet, to ensure that number one, it remains in the scene. but it's not in control for the instructor of the sea. and this is would where you know all the questions or thoughts would be this booklets would be focused on who's going to govern the state and federal cities. i mean, would they be at a phone for a single thought of the what, how much would be included in it? but the problem is, isn't it, is it, you can have phones a logical position. way you say how boss now needs to look to the, the a full help because that's what's gonna happen because it gives it yet because the international community themselves will only talk to the p a because they do not
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recognize, have us. they see it as a type of risk group is as a designated tired risk group in such a western capitals around until that is removed only then will they be taken seriously on the international front to a certain extent, to a certain extent of the site. good are on, on, on this because of how this particular how much has evolved and has changed over time. the last in 2018. how much changes its own shot, the simplicity of the quick noise, the 967 borders to accept the existence of is that i and and this, these changes were the but they were dejected by is that in the community at the time? or they wouldn't neglect more or less. so what i see or why i 1st see what i foresee, i mean, ideally for me as opposed to me on is unity is a necessity. i mean for the upcoming challenges, which manual focused on deconstruct things as an opening up. want to confess, i see the trump admission might put something on the field, but i propose him to end this conflict. be something similar to the deed of the essentially, or less or more. i don't know. but i, in my opinion,
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my opinion that there wouldn't be a political beth after this war, instead of the political suck since now for the palestinians. but as soon as i have to decide on how they want to, uh, to be involved in what's capacity in which for unity is a must the amazon stuff that divide those protests when somehow, i think both parties stuck on how much do realize that or they should realize that these, that without this unity both both i mean for them continuing separated and it will not work. i mean, the unity is a must in this case, how when it's happened. i don't know. back to the question. i think the partial community needs to have the decency at this point to engage with how most meaning are you cop english with these are, which is inside them states. i mean, i'm talking to that in case they want to engage with how much, how much have i had, have its own. the, you know, have its own stadiums and successes of the same time. but it's remains that
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political entity, if, if you want to make peace, you make peace between the enemies left the pin fence and how much is there is not going anywhere and it has to be engaged with somehow just stay with us for a moment to table because we've also got some breaking news, can we ask what a mouse has now released the names of those 3 is really female hostages captives. and that they all, we are expecting them to be named formally as the 3 names of israel was expecting. um and those pictures have been released in terms of the, the type items of a, uh, the way that time us moves forwards. um, there is this scenario where it is it that it does talk to various groups in the region. obviously the states have categories of silver and member of the un is one avenue of conversation. how much influence does a state like cuts off to a certain extent and even egypt have with the rest of the western?
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well to say, look, you've got to move your position, you've got to talk to her boss because her boss isn't going away. they prove that in 15 months, israel couldn't do it, and then there's a good never going to be able to. i think, i mean, countries the carpet or like mediators a couple of egypt. i mean they have keyboards to plague and they could influence this. but i couldn't go to the limit to that mt was it wouldn't end up eventually to is that a is, and the americans position was there to move this v to on engaging with how much or not a little sticker speaking in the idea of weight. if let's assume if there is out of the form thomas with a new political emission with a new, uh, i wouldn't say a dollar just what i mean that is just infected with a new political objectives that more or less alliance to the 2 state projects wouldn't this convince the americans that is a, it is to engage politically with thomas and i mean it shots, i mean, what are we talking about topical solution piece of the thing. i mean this is would
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you bring enemies together, correct. set them on paper, negotiate somebody to the piano, piano for the case, it was live, but the federal. so i'm going to edition up to the also piece of course, and 1993 when the set together. what does that mean? is that in the middle of supervision and then also came to happen. so i think the same process or the same logic model, this has to be applied on how mess and then and then things move on politically. well, that's sort of the feature set chat before you guys have a. let's look at these names now that we have golf. we sold the pictures of robi, go in, and she's 24 years old. and emily demari 28 years old and don't understand the so to you one years old, 11 does now names, ages photographs have been delivered. it seems now to the israelis, when do you think about his presence? sienna, how long does a piece of string, where do you think the sci fi might take hold? who should we listen to? for that announcement, i think, i think i'm soon and probably i mean in my opinion,
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many of them should step in though and see if is official. now, for the bi offers of stiffness from the 2 parties, is that a mess and also understand we expect from visit 8 is to release the pictures and the names of the hundreds of but a scene has also been kept. and this lady presents also, this would be the right step to doing this complex, not only these lady pictures, but also the scene of captives as well. because the world also needs to see, to know all of these hundreds or thousands of students have been kept at the n y. so sometimes when we speak somebody unless you come and sit in that seats that time a, you know, i'll do is often one do i think and often asked me when i'm asked about away from kind of thought, you know, who all these people that very well read that in various universities around the world, but your costs and this is your homeland, that's been buttons. so the last 15 months i'm, we've set, hey, was friends and as colleagues to,
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to listen to you about what's being said. and i just wanna talk to you, you know what, he's going through your mind just as a human being. and as a person who knows so many people by co been dealing with what's been going on. and there is a professional scenario where you talk to us, but there's also an emotional side to all of us to it's, it's really sweet. it's how to talk about it. it's, i mean my inside extended somebody's been in has, uh, i know how to use that experience. i lost 2 of my family members, my uncle in the 1st days and one of my cousins, they were killed by. is there any troops in the north? um, i have other numbers also died because of lex vacations, family members. it's a tragedy that every single for this thing and so many is living now. but you know, in an oldest and all this, you see hope i don't see hope when i see whole by this. i mean,
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international politics have faith, but i've seen this before, but i see hoping this awakening this hundreds of thousands, these millions of people will have uh, when solved administrating this vicious debates on social media. now to see so many youngsters. and so many countries now defending for this time defending that i to, for this thing, is to be free at a very critical phase of exposing the to be the face of participation. a, something is happening or something has changed to see the boy movement in and out of more than many other countries to see youngsters. the kids with mobile running these, the boy called the apps to know what to buy and what went up to buy. you know, when i met and when i see bought quotes, but what is it, a firms, an investors that support is what i and this is earl devaney. army, is this, i'm wasting. it is the, i know the political, i live in the government live in states,
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austin. i wouldn't look 30th about societies. i've this feeling or the sense that there is this great awakening. and that, that this will eventually lead to something. i mean, there is a more understanding now, globally of, of the ugly, the oddities of the conflict. and what does in the present when it keeps this will corporation and from the, let's have the on, let's hope that the sacrifice of thousands of these tons of these tend to so, so thousands of these people will pay the heavy price, the civilians, the fighters, every $1.00 was the victim of this war on both sides on both sides. but they put some, somehow at some points, brinkley, a piece and that's what i want to achieve at this point in my capacity. and that's all that happens. yeah, it's always nice to to speak to you and then the very difficult circumstances sent me this last 15 months. we haven't planned tests, not questions. i just thought we need to to right now. thank you very much,
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my time of coming. thank you. well breaking news coming in from these really media now, which is saying that as well as i received the names of the 3 captives from us will release on sunday. stephanie douglas live for us in a month in jordan because israel has band which is 0 from appraising from within its own country. so the photographs and the names have been publicized. stephanie, what more do we know about how they've been received by these? riley's, the yes, how massive spokes person giving those 3 names. we knew they would be females, they would be women. so the names are rami going 24 years old. she was taken from the supernova, music festival. you will remember that in the desert. then you have emily um, demari 28 years old. she was taken from call for the us. all this is one of the templates is along the goals a board and also daron stein, becker, 31 years old. these are the 3 women that will be released today. we haven't had any
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official reaction from these raids, but you know, it goes without saying that their families will be ecstatic to hear the news that their loved ones will be the ones we use today. of course, there was a list of $33.00 captives that will be released over the course of the next $42.00 days. so the families and friends and loved ones of those on the list, waiting anxiously whether their loved one is the one going to be reduced today. so that's just in so confirmation that those names have been handed over. we now know who they are, which means the technically, the ceasefire should officially now be in place if it is officially now in place. stephanie, do you think we will actually get some sort of official word from any is really official a such. it's a, it's a difficult question. i would say no um the ceasefire is not something that
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benjamin netanyahu is proud off of the record yesterday. the 1st time we heard from him, since the cease fire was officially announced and called on basically spinning it in a way that this was israel's victory, that it made him ass capitulate that actually got him us to agree to really say double the amount of life hostages, and this was only because of all the pressure israel had put on the group military when essentially the understanding is that the veteran yahoo had to capitulate to international pressure to agree to a cease fire. the feeling of israel is that it was never a priority for him to bring the captives home. his priority was for his political survival if you will, because of the right wing elements in his government. every time he considered a ceasefire would threaten to resign and bring down his government. one of those men has already resign today to more about and give the but if the movements, the reality of his ready politics is that he is not going to bring down the
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government in his resignation, is not going to affect the path of the ceasefire. and its 1st phase and as you are hearing from your on the list and i've been speaking to contact some sources, everybody questioning whether the ceasefire will be able to last post the 1st phase . stephanie, thank you very much for the up this of the deck of that forest reporting from the old 80, and cancel about the coal solve the 3 phases of moss as a way to release all of the captives and still holes in garza, for that families that means the end that i can icing weights, but many questions remain unanswered in my account. how's the story? these are the $33.00 is really capt is expected to be released by hamas. and phase one of the gotta cease fire. deal 21 men, 10 women and 2 children. 3 of them to be released every week on saturday for the next 6 consecutive weeks. it's not clear which of them are alive or dead. the captives have been at the center of ceasefire negotiations. and the protest in
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israel, some of the largest in the country's history. hundreds of thousands of people have demonstrated continuously since the war began, demanding prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his government to bring them home. some former captives have accused netanyahu or prolonging the warrant for his own political survival. how must, if he will, how must made it clear that they are interested in an overall deal to end the fighting by so wise as ro, insisting on have solutions. i know exactly what the hostages are going through. i saw it. i experienced it kicked in the scale of the captain's crisis since the attack led by him mos on october 7th of 20. 23 is unprecedented in his early history. $251.00 people, including 4 nationals were taken to casa. israel's leaders said its invasion of this trip would destroy them off and free all captives. after more than
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a year from us, although militarily weekend hasn't been fully dismantled, a sticking point for netanyahu, who says he reserves the right to restart the war at any time coming to see top the government to see by the both president trump and president biden gave full backing to israel's right to return to fighting israel, which is the conclusion that negotiations of the 2nd stage are fruitless anymore. most of the largest group of kept is left because a november of 2023. as part of a true steel around a 100 were freed in exchange for $240.00 pounds to name detainees released by israel. but hoping celebration soon stated, as is real, intensified it's bonding across kaiser, leaving the state of the remaining captives, uncertain. come off says $33.00 have died. most of them in the same is really a tax and strikes that have killed more than $46000.00 palestinians. israel's
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government disputes, those claims. critics have also questioned the tactics used by israel. in june, israel's military celebrated the recovery of 4 captives in a daytime rate on central gaza as a success that attack on the new smart refugee camp resulted in a massacre of $274.00. palestinians killed 64 of them. children, the roll out of the new sea sire will be watched with cautious optimism by both israelis and palestinians. all aspects of the deal must go as plan. very little can afford to go wrong, as is really families await their loved ones. questions surrounding why their government missed so many opportunities to free them may never arrive. ronald lafond l to 0 the while and about some bunch of the screen that we've expanded is that huge, plumas spokane, so you would have had a bronze 3 months report you would've seen those pictures. and even though it seems a sci fi i was able to wind down very well then i would hoff uh,
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from its uh, israel continues its bobbing of the gaza strip despite its demands for the names of the 1st 3 female hostages to be given. they have been given where we go to, i believe demari don't understand and reca how being delivered to these by least by the mediators. let's see now whether the ceasefire will officially be timed and placed now or in the coming hours. hundreds of palestinians are expected to be released from his lady giles during the 1st days of the ceasefire. those facing goal saving lives, sentences exchange deals all the only way out of prison. late on sunday, families are expected to gather at the occupied westbank to welcome home. but i loved ones as did it prohibit thoughts, medium or waste has 3 sons in his ready jails. 2 are expected to be released and the cease fire deal. i'm just getting him and his brother has son or both serving
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life terms. a prisoner swap is the only way out. so i need to and when i 1st heard i got shocked, i stopped a shaking incidentally fence. think those around me started asking what's wrong with you? i said, i don't know. maybe i'm happy. i don't know how i see. the 1st these wire deal in november 2023. lost it for a week and sold a release of dozens of palestinian prisoners. women, children, and young men, our joy is not complete. you look at the sacrifice of blood spilled in gaza. he's my eldest son. i am happy to see him here, but it's a painful moment. at least $25.00 of those release have since been re arrested, including on medicine. my life is a common practice for the occupying power is room. so the service to me,
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it also happened to negative, but of course he was released with more than $1000.00 palestinian prisoners in exchange for is really sold true. get out to after 3 years of freedom, he was rea rested, now is now spent the total of 44 years in jail. and is considered the longest serving palestinian prisoner. he married a man in a short time. he was out of jail. yeah. and they planted this orange tree kind of what they sold would be a lifetime or to together show a la. yeah, new beats instead of coordinate and see i've seen or bought the house he left in the year 2014 is waiting for him. and he didn't even get enough time out of jail to taste the oranges we missed and were waiting for it. and i look on the ish, the, and 47 others who would be arrested in the deal. would it be the least in phase one of the cease fire agreement? phase 2 negotiations are expected to focus on palestinian leaders from different
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factions like motor one but a whole fee, but i am habit of deliberate. we'll see an but so i that. but the release is still being vetoed by israel, high profile or not less than he is have little say in who makes the final list. with more than 600 people serving or facing life sentences, they fear. it's either now or never knew that pain, and just so, you know, they say, thought it was proposed debate last job, but the policies rankled over several tools is before reaching a consensus, but it's smith breaks down what was finally agreed phase one of the sci fi deal we'll see the release of psalm is ready to comp, tips palestinian prisoners, the gradual withdrawal of israeli forces from the central gaza, a search and humanitarian aid. i'm the return of displace palestinians to the north of the strip. so the 3 is rarely comp davis will be released over a 6 week period is available for a almost 2000 palestinian prisoners on detaining 600 truck loads of humanitarian
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aid. a day will come into gauze. israel will withdraw from the next room, kara door palestinians living in northern garza will be able to go to what's left to the homes. now, when the last of the 33 captives are released on day 42 is riley forces will begin with drawing from the philadelphia, colorado. this is a contentious pos of a deal for these riley government negotiations. for phase 2 will begin on day 16. a phase one is expected to lead to the release of all remaining is rarely captives and more palestinian detainees, as well as a permanency spa. i'm a complete to withdrawal of israeli forces. phase 3 will address the long term reconstruction of gaza casa egypt. the united states will supervise the implementation of the deal, which could fault at any time if i have a side accuses be of a breaking the c spine. otherwise, basically,
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you'll see michael back. he's a senior consulting fellow with the middle east and north africa probably got about child some house in london. he says, distrust between the 2 sides of the technical difficulties could slow the loan type implementation of the agreement. i think we always say, but so you know that we have, we can, it's best be cautiously optimistic. we know that between the basic underlying the steps between the site but also logistical issues because of the nature of the, of, of, of the distraction in the gaza. so we don't know, you know, these are you suggest that may be as bronco for psychology, for, for by thomas. but other, say this is just about logistics, you know, finding and moving to us to just from face to face. also being afraid of open communication to expose it from us. oh think these wherever the let's see that
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what is happening. this is for 60 months, but i think we need to play so so that the next a 67 weeks, i'm not going to be easy. and bodies over a lot of destiny, kindly just because of the, of the, this class before i decide to move very cautiously, it too was implementing basically casa, is becoming a graveyard for children. you've heard that from the you'd assess the chief earlier this month since october 2023 is really a tax of killed mold in $17800.00 children. unless many of us permanently scout with any basic medical services available in schools, destroyed costs as children face added 2nd future. the the black lab reports they've witness death loss and destruction. the children of cause or bearing the brunt of israel's war. children make up nearly half of the population in the
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besieged strip, and the you one has described it as the most dangerous place in the world to be a child. well, we want to be a month into the war. they pleaded for protection. think all they wanted was to live as other children live doing what they're desperate calls for help went on hurt, and the bones did not stop since then at least 44 percent of the palestinians killed in this war had been children for those and survived the scar stretch far beyond the physical or something like this . know that we're now going to change the aerospace to get any doubt many have lost one or both parents. nearly 19000 are now orphans and from the horrors. afore a grim acronym emerged, w. c,
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n. s. s. wounded child, no surviving family marked on the tiny bodies of those who survived. many other children are names for life. health officials say child m. p t's account for 18 percent of all recorded amputation cases. in garza garza now has the highest number of child on p cheese per capita anywhere in the world. many are you losing their limbs and scenarios such as this was the undergoing surgeries without anesthesia. their scores are a permanent reminder of the ones that will outlast any ceasefire. but amid all the destruction, children and gaza claims to hold as fragile as it might be. longing for a return of childhood stolen by genocide, the novel clay as
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a 0. the city and supposedly displays from dollars as no saw desperate to return to the homes. well, what's left of them? the area has been a days where the scene symbols in 3 months seems fine to transfer them to return and pick up the piece of that lives. so we leave you with what they've been telling us about the hopes and expectations for the future. the scenario and model was so mad with the most of the most of all the literally and again of how we end up who have the, i mean, i didn't know what i sent them, but i don't what i have no different noon. so let me give him a pen. so some of the back of cost of holding my to add the fee when the bad while get the message. i
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see that this case all the rules are just a blah blah blah blah. again, i know somebody just don't know how to stop most of the sudden, but now what's the phone number? what was it done? the cards, the whole robins with continuing coverage. all the delayed c spying casa abbas release is the names of the 3 captives that funds to free on sunday, potentially paving the way for seats 5 with israel typical. there's plenty of life on the streets of tonya. it is, but it's very.
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