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the condition that he is remaining in the government by the return to wall. i don't think that because of feeding these when we return to wall a and a, you know, even just the look you know, on the t v and seeing that happy a. but his thing is into happy is rarely use it to be so easy for anybody on any site to renew the will just because they, we so the people will not follow that. i appreciate your confidence in the will of the people, but strategically looking in the unlikely this the, with the withdrawal the resignation of it's a model been give via the minister of national security. how much has that left and that's in yahoo even more reliant on fig. is like best allows smartphones even if they are, as you, you said, you know, they very much of my knowledge in the cabinet as he is
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a very reliant on them to present his government though from collapsing knows that the position a very simple game. if you need, so this is the situation a, you know, the to implement the agreement to finish or the 3 phases to go full, build on it to go see ations and full a and a. then he doesn't have to, to worry does not the adult position is the, you know, the top and he, him, we've been grew and we test mostly it's been really been a said that he was not in the government. do you have any fees in a position? so i don't, but politically, he doesn't have to be worried if he wants to. a, can you implement the agreement then i believe that there is some new guy enabled. a whose name is donald trump, a who are so we'd love to be to happy, even it done, you know, decide it's out of the blue a to renew a deluxe all be. and this is there is a really,
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really crises. there is violence from this side of his by the form of, of come us and a easy way and decides to retire. so if that doesn't happen, i don't think that anybody's really seriously in that it hasn't, it has an interest in a renewing the wall a. what are they going to achieve by a menu or a devil? i don't know a what we have to do is to think seriously about the morning of the about today and rehabilitation, the restructuring of a of gaza with the handbook day god states and a in the situation. and we thomas is not the a calling the a, the, the shots and, and decides the what is going to happen with guys. but a problem, i think a, i rub pollution week the being all week. the 1st thing also easy or will have to leave it that thing so much just a bailing joining us from tel aviv. thank you. thank you for having me. a
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no model on the charlotte is out just here a senior political unless the joins us live from del, have good to have you with us model one festival. let me pick up on one thing which i was just discussing that you may have heard with ya. see bailing, and this is the question that's left on my mind off to having that discussion with you. i will say if, if nothing. yeah. who is not so valuable? if he can lose it tomorrow, then give it. and if he can go against ultimately what the dynamics of the perspective that you'll see was outlining was that he can go against this assurance that small traits, things at least he's received from nothing. yeah. who not to end the war? well, if he could have done all of this, why didn't he do it? 15 months ago, if he's not really vulnerable to the collapse of his government to this
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because of everything we've said the past 15 months is that they are useful idiots or not. so edits, but they are useful for nothing else. no sale has been using them for at least a year now, as a pretext not to end the war because he himself is an extremist. not because he's held hostage to them as so many of your guests had been saying the past. so many months, he nothing you know is a fascist. he is radical. he's extreme us. if you read the book his autobiography, b, b, you would know how extreme he is. he's a very extreme right for depression and his side. and he became more extreme with time. and you use this big 0 as more courage, as predicts, in order to prolong the war and just that as far as our lives that look, i can't do much because these 2 people will break down my government. i can't
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afford that. i need to continue. this is a national security crisis, and this is not the time to dissolve, but the government, i'm going to an options. and so i need to continue to time dr. these to fanatics, right? i mean, this has been the logic throughout now, as you said, even been clear said i will leave the government, but i will not need scholarship. and even if he needs that condition, he said he would not vote. i guess the government, that's as much right. so i try to model on that, but i think you might just find out what time, what time to know is that, that's a neo is the extremist. i think of, i'm sorry i you referred to as a mob been give you saying he will not leave the government. i think he meant to say by the law smart fridge. apologies for interrupting you. no, no, no, no, no, no, bing, here. when he resigned, he said he will not vote against the government in parliament, meaning he's going to stay outside until is there a go back to war?
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in the meanwhile, if there is a no confidence vote in parliament, he's not going to vote against that. if any, all government that's what he said. so in fact, he's basically expressing displeasure with the fact that stuff in your home feels compelled to go into a ceasefire mode under the pressure of by the non trump, because here, so this is not the time for his right to get to go. do i see slide because the americans want to but he said again, if i may emphasize you soon, i'm leaving the government, but i would not be working. i guess that i think that's important to, to, to under, like, right, to say all to say that the next several weeks we're going to have another test which has been smarter. we're going to be saying, i told you that if you're going to face to i'm leaving the government, then we are talking about 15 members of the $6.00 to $8.00 coordination government that's going to be stepping out. we are talking more a, you know, in terms of the danger now to the governor. right. what am i to adjusting here?
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suddenly, is the fund, it wasn't very quickly. what i'm suggesting is that we should not be looking in a linear way at this. what as pump steps into the white house, we gonna start looking at a bigger picture, right? where this is ready to go to but could be compensated, which was not my decision was solid yet a be a within a sessions that was both of us. what was that with either thank these 5 could continue got it. i saw him on. all right, let an apology, useful misunderstanding what you were saying earlier. i want to play this now for view is to listen to and to get your thoughts on this. this is what these are the prime minister had to say last night. i mean, i still feel a deadly and that the principle is to maintain the philadelphia access and the security buffers are and when i say maintaining the philadelphia axis, not only are you not reducing the forces there, we will even increase them a little now, as i'm showing you, you had it last night and you heard it. now milan van is ready,
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prime minister saying he's going to increase troops at the philadelphia, colorado. and i like contradicts everything that's being reported to have been agreed in the seas. 5 deal. all we already heading towards the collapse when you listen to that. uh no, but once we enter after the 60s, they inter discussing the 2nd phase and nothing that i wouldn't bring by then. his insistence on mentoring, is there any forces on definitive he caught it or then we're gonna start probably having some problems and that was big time. meaning he was, i want to maintain the forces the, the, the palestinians and nothing was eviction. why the direction? because the presence of the things regular forces on the left, the corner door has nothing to do with how about us it has to do with the p l. o and fiji. it's an agreement that was done in 2005 with egypt. not with how much,
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how much is a know party with his red on the front of their feet. go to door. so there's nothing you insist on that. he's going to have to pick it up with egypt and somewhat with about seeing outside of egypt has said that will not accept his writing and forces. i'm a very difficult art except, and this has been recent in the past 23 weeks, that jeff should propose that maybe that will be symbolic presence of certain is varieties in one or 2 points in the for the figure corridor. but no military strategy presence. all right, thanks so much. not a long shot of that all senior analyst. oh, okay. and so stephanie is a political analyst. he was a research of for the palestinian return center. the school of oriental and african studies joins us now from edinburgh. good to have you with us pad. so just before i
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start are into, i just want to point out the view is that the pictures that we are seeing on the left hand of the screen, our life pictures coming into us exclusively to i'll just say that these pictures about the release of those 3 is really captives now pets. so as that, as that situation unfolds and subtle, i a square in garza that we're looking at. there is the question. there is the hopes of reconstruction because lots of people have been trying to return to what's left of the homes. given that one of the you and statistics side by you know, sense that 863000 buildings, 66 percent of all structures in gauze of either being destroyed or damaged. what are people returning to? and yes, thank you for having me. so i just want to say that while many a ride, the feeling joy and relieve up to the whole row of the past 15 months,
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this cease fire is not the end of the structural genocide that has been in place since 1948. and we are entering uncharted territory. it has really been one of the most intense genocide awards in recent history. and we're now to a point where um, over 90 percent of housing units have been destroyed or damaged. which means that at least 80000 homes have been rendered. and inhabitable schools, universities, hospitals, south centers, no sector as the sped from the almost total destruction. so the situation is beyond catastrophic and is really at the moment the little to return to it. i probably you an estimate, reckon that it will take full teen is full. teen is patrick just to clean up the rubble. nevermind. rebuilding when you hear things like that and they said it will
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cost at least one point. $2000000000.00 us dollars. you're going to wonder who's ready to carry that cost and carry that kind of burden. yeah, absolutely. the challenges are in men's. i have no doubt that for the students who withstood this genocides will be able to rebuild the garza but there is an increase of them in a previously done to the amount of rumble to clear. before we can even begin thinking about reconstruction. there are over 14000000 metric tons of february the still along the streets. and let's not forget still 10000 palestinian bodies of the victims. i still need to pulled out the problem. and so just clearing the rebel might take it that kid. once the rubber is removed, the cost of rebuilding would be prohibitive. in previous rounds,
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the most prominent feature was the lock or up sense of donors. if the donors step up this time is is difficult to say. so some estimates put the cost of rebuilding as more than a $2000000000.00 us dollars. and one best case scenario rebuilding just destroyed homes could be done by 2040. and that is assuming it will be going at a faster pace than than in previous rounds. and also construction sites will have to be empty of people to operate, which could mean creating more ways of displacement. not to mention lots of you know, just this into a lot of logistics. construction work is equipment, cement, needs to stop sliding into gaza. can any of that happen when, as far as we know this, this dale does not end the state of occupation, the year is of siege and which is well controlled. every item that was allowed into
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gaza. the states of it know the palestinian territories, which for you which international is right, a human rights codes referred to as a pol tide who wants and who is able to get into that kind of gaza and put that kind of money in well, there's been a lot of cold calls, perhaps that you, when are governments, the pa being a role. but it is difficult to imagine a scenario in which israel does not have the ultimate authority over this process of reconstruction when it starts. and these really regime will continue to be, i definitely have that kind of money. does it though? petra no, i will have to be the international community to fund the reconstruction. different countries is want to put that kind of money and efforts into
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a situation that looks very shaky. and at any point in time, the occupying power can come back in and stop bombing again. yeah, of course. what we saw in the past is that israel cause this massive disruption and pays no consequences. so in, in the past international goldman sachs that tend to put the bill. but to break this cycle, international governments are serious about wanting to how to rebuild garza, they must 1st create the conditions that prevent a 0 from in the future. attacking what may be rebuilt and one way to do that would be to fund the reconstruction. well, also cutting the massive economic ministry and diplomatic supports days provide it to his room. all right, thank you very much, pat drive for sharing your perspective. on the reconstruction task ahead. petro, stephanie,
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a political analyst of the way of just about 24 hours away from the innovation of donald trump as the 47th president of the united states. and that's across live without just here, a serial vanya and the team in washington dc. i certainly look, it's great to be with you. thank you very much. and we've been watching a remarkable coverage of these momentous events that are unfolding and israel in the gaza strip of. busy as it may be that we're looking at the beginning of the end of the war and gaza, we don't know the see saw or may not whole, but that may end up being the case. and you know, savvy when we came here to washington dc, we came here obviously for the trumping on your ration ceremony, which will happen in 25 hours in about 10 minutes. 25 hours, 10 minutes give or take a few minutes. uh,
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so that will be tomorrow noon local time, washington dc time and it will happen in the rotunda of the capital building behind me was supposed to be outside. we have a great view of it is going to be inside because of the freezing weather today. still okay, but tomorrow's gonna be extremely cold. we start coming here that january, monday, january the 20th would be by far the most important day of the week. certainly for the us, but also for the world given the number of critical foreign policy issues that the us president has a hand in and a critical part in it turns out that sunday, january, the 19th might be today might be just as critical, especially of course for the middle east. so i want to acknowledge that with steve clemens, who is the host of the houses here is bottom line. and with james base who is our diplomatic editor. i also want to acknowledge the footage that we're seeing. we have eyes on multiple screens around his life footage of over prison in the occupied westbank were gentlemen, as you know, the palestinian prisoners,
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90 palestinian prisoners are going to be released possibly moments from now if that happens, we'll jump on those pictures. we have the pictures of sariah square, one more thing i want to tell our viewers is we are currently expecting. busy button to speak on this on the hostage release deal, the guys a ceasefire deal that he so desperately tried to get. busy or a year uh or did he desperately try to get it? maybe that's something we can get into. so as soon as that happens, we will get into that a joe biden last full day of his presidency. he's in south carolina. we're expecting him to speak. she has been one thing this moment he did not want to leave office without saying, i've done it. i have a deal. look, the calendar is going to get president bite and some degree of significant credit for this cease fire deal because it's happening on his watch. we have one president at a time that said, a lot of people are very critical of jo biden's input tents in moving this deal
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forward far, far sooner than it did. and there's just no doubt that someone like it, ron and hostages being released when ronald reagan was coming into office after jimmy carter. and those passions were, were released that were being held by the iranian government. this seems like that to get that there is a inflection point in american history and world history with donald trump coming in. and this gives an opportunity to push we set and start with a new deck, so to speak. and so i think that's a very important point for joe biden. we have to just space it has been effective in this last year and a half, essentially of trying to move humanitarian aid to palestine to try to shape and direct how is real prosecuted. this conflict, all of that divided the team, had been largely unaffected and effective or unwilling to think on willing. i mean, if he wants to do it and the us president wanted to force these, riley's, they hold all the cards, they hold all the money, they hold all the weapons, the vast majority of weapons and munitions that have been dropped on gauze that
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killing more than 46000 people, all americans and various points. they teased the idea they might do something and they have never at any point done in the thing. they have this deal present, but even a bit it was his deal in may. they had this deal in may when the associates except some palestinians killed 10000 people died. if he post honda, they wouldn't have died of the role. and so you have the, as really is you have the categories, you have the binding and trump administrations all have been saying there was very close coordination between the outgoing administration and the incoming administration. is there a precedent for that? and we've seen this before. i haven't seen it before, but that's not to say it hasn't happened, but i think that president trump's middle east envoy was even given credit by can tires for administer is being, you know, part of the secret sauce of this working. and he commended the working relationship between brett mccourt, mcgraw work, representative joe biden, and c would,
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cox who represents the trump administration that's coming in. and so they both work together very effectively and we're able to push together and push forward on a deal. you know, that's been missing and i'm willing to concede the unwilling, you know, point to james just made because i do believe that america has incredible leverage on israel and could have done something. i think that leverage be can begin to get used or the fear of elements of it not only for the, the palestine side of this equation, but also for is really prime minister netanyahu in which i think she was given some very tough instructions from. she would cost that, that president trump did not want to inherit the mess that they have now. and i think that helped you. i just took him in on steve went cough yes, please. because it was written out. yeah. because because when he's, when he was supposed to nouns, i spoke to those international diplomats from, from the countries they go who we've never the businessman friend of donald trump, who, who is a problem. i think about really the probably developing who's never gotten this sort of stuff before. never been involved in anything like this. and that was
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really what are they doing with this guy. but maybe this is the one occasion cause he had the support and the power of donald trump support. but one occasion was someone who's not a diplomat, who was no, no diplomatic, actually achieved things because he wasn't diplomatic. and when he was of that mill you, he wasn't of that world of people that are part of the middle east peace industry, so to speak, of people have been working on middle east peace, our generation, i find this or markham. well, i, i, the risk of labouring this point. i want to make sure our viewers understand this. steve would cost real estate mobile, right? not a diplomat, not a kind of we are, is real estate wheeler, dealer in new york and particularly in new york, but also bought something. so perhaps a bit of a deal maker in the, in the trump fan i'm, i don't know, but real estate being real estate guy, friend of donald trump, goes to don't for a missed capacity, as donald trump's mid east. and boy, for the 1st time in this capacity, early january goes to don't, then goes to israel meets, is really 5 minutes to benjamin that. yeah. and then goes back to dog big tories on
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houses here this morning. the spokes person for the prime minister and for i ministry said he was involved. he was physically present in the negotiations again, someone who was not a career, but he didn't come up with a magic new deal. it's the same deal. they were arguing over tiny little details. what he did was forced these riley's to deal with this property because donald trump set that deadline. and a steve said earlier, yes, barton will get a little bit of credit because it happened on his watch. but. but remember, trump said it had to happen before the hell to pay it, cuz i know you both saw that moment a few days ago when joe biden gave a press conference in the last few seconds. he's walking away in a report of shouts of questions saying, who gets the credit for this your donald trump? this is are, are you asking a joke? yeah. you're making a joke. he gave her the he gave her the very, very likely about that. um. okay, a sweet. so donald trump, as we said 25 hours from now, he becomes president. he has fully,
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he already has his, his hands on the steering wheel. as we've seen, we discussed the with costs. but now yet tomorrow he'll have to decide how, how do i handle this? you know, the ceasefire is extremely fragile and we don't know if it will hold. benjamin netanyahu has already been signaling joe biden speaking. let's listen. it freezes for hostages. every 7 days thereafter, including at least 2 american citizens in the 1st race, to pay for them and their families are going to be a long recovery by the 16th day of the deal talk. so beginning of the 2nd phase, this phase includes the release is really soldiers and a permanent end of the war. without them not without from austin power or a more threatened israel. hundreds of structure and gaza as i speak, the kind of assistance for civilians who have suffered nor received from the war as a mos started in october 7th, 2023 number 15 months ago. today alone rent a space,
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several 100 trucks will enter regardless trip, as i'm probably, as i'm speaking, and after so much pain, destruction, loss of life. today, the guns in guys would have gone style. this was the deal, the outline for the world back in may. 31st many covers it's time i was a door i've ever endorsed. overwhelmingly by folks around the world, including the un security council, unanimously, endorsed a deal and developed a, a and coordination with. i developed in coordination of age of color and israel i, i worked for a policy for decades. this is one of the toughest negotiations i've been part of. many of you follow these dig o'shea smoke chest. the road of this deal has been not easy at all in a long road, but we've reached that point today because of the pressure israel built on a mos backed by the united states. so i'm say my policy of a firm supporter is or was relentlessly pursuing diplomacy risk, drawing america into a wider warren region. i listen to those voices,
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many of whom i respected a great deal, but i concluded a band in the course i was drawn would not have let us to the seas far or seen today. but instead it would have risk for wider war in the region at so many fear. now the reason it has been fundamentally transformed last as long time leaders and more as dead mos sponsors and the police have been badly weakened by israel, backed by the united states, has the law. one of them, most of the biggest packers, are significantly weekend of the battlefield. and as the leadership was destroyed, even as we worked for different medic solutions 11, we provide ongoing assistance and support is a military campaign against including his efforts to take out the chair and rest of the chair and construction along the board of israel. 11th is a tan pain, was extensive, extremely successful. so much so that by the end of november, the nice stage had broker to cease fire and lebanon has belie,
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did what it said. it would never do. it cut. it's a, it's cut his deal in a band and how moss and today, 11 on 11 on. there's finally a new president, prime minister, both of home support, a sovereign living on without his ball rolling and shout right. brand new sharp trinity party, on the side resume next door, and sir is gone. the moving around, ready access to a level of a ran isn't the weakest position in decades after us military help defend israel from a rainy and missiles is support. it is military responsive satera. just look across the region 11 on there's an opportunity for a future, free from the grip ahead of law and syria, a future free from the side. the journey of a side for the policy and people are credible pat to a state of their own for the region or in the future, normalization and integration of israel with all of us have neighbors including
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saudi arabia. so, you know, we've had many difficulties since from us begin this terrible war kind of roadblocks in subtext or we haven't given up. especially thanks to my team, particularly brent mckerick or many of you know, we spent weeks and months working non stop to reach this till monday night of each month out of x out of the country. today, she's far in gaza and release of hostages. does result of a principle and effective policy and we prep presided over for months and we get it . we got here without a wider war and i'm at least many predicted now falls an extra ministration to help on the methodist jail. i was pleased to have our team speak as one voice in the final days was both necessary and effective and unprecedented. a successfully require for assistance and continuing to support for our friends in the region and the belief in diplomacy backed by deterrence. so as reflect on the news from kaiser
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today, ross, remember all the victims of this war. they were more mindful or mindful that's a pursuit of a lasting peace pro. never easier, quick must always be our calling. so thank you all for this, the me a god bless you for all my god, protect our troops. i'm looking forward to this deal being fully implemented. i'm sorry, i'm not gonna take any questions now because i'm waiting. there's a whole congregation waiting for me and i'm sure the remainder of the day i have an opportunity to speak. thank you very much. yes, i was just got a call saying the 3 a release to in regards to the of the hands of have of their captors. and they appear to be in good health because this early to tell they're literally been and may be across the border of the gaza strip and the israel, now i'm not certain. thank you
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have just been listening to the outgoing us president. remember, this is the last full day of the job items, presidency and 25 hours. he will be handing over power to donald trump. but right now he still is president. and what we have is a ceasefire and hostage release deal in gaza day one of that, joe biden, wanting to take credit. you just listen to him. he essentially gave himself and his team credit for what we are seeing today. saying that the, the ghost ations, the diplomacy that they've been carrying out all the leg work to get to today has been done by his team. this done, this is, comes in the context, of course of donald trump having issued threats, saying that there's going to be held to pay if the hostages are not released by the time he comes at the power, which as are meant reminder is 25 hours from now, so joe biden and what are likely to be the last.
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