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was to continue the hills and comforts and body and resilience. and if the purest form, with detailed coverage, the hornsby chewing every day in a body caused conditions to secure these amounts forth from the hoss of the story. from some bullets have killed more than $46000.00 palestinians plus right scrooge say that, as well as using food as a weapon to a sense of moving dogs or with this, these fires coming after nearly 4 to 7000 people were killed by his radio pots and what sprint, what, how experience or know trying to rebuild their lives at home? many of them destroyed by the funding. how has this period of jobs of people remain unbroken? this is inside story the
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for the 1st time in 15 months, the skies over the gaza strip are relatively quiet. the ceasefire agreements with how my son is where has brought much needed pause in the killing, but on the ground. the cars of the war are so fresh and the challenges of recovering are quite massive. today we're joined by a panel of human rights activists, a director of the w. s. v. as well as a political analyst to talk about the current situation and the future prospects of the goals district. thank you so much for joining us. look through. 1 let's begin with 15 months of devastating war involving the repeated stress by there's really a government of selling palestinian genocide, the lack that we see on the go. what does that mean for the policy and people in this time that is right and has the plans to on next box?
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so for example, the northern area is that i am, has the voltage, the land to evacuate northern goza and the, the, the delay, the, the area. and the 3 system is that i usually accept letters in northern gaza. and a lot about it is within the is that i the really to columbia escape the locked for maybe building a buffer zone on using the, in the mix. ation of the notifications that to build a new invest 3 in and the doors and the culture them areas. a good thing to them adds that was that that's where the leak, the media and the key things that i unit intentions that i got think does a split. in addition, we can talk about that,
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but i've seen in the theme and cause engine on that is what i mean if planned to a liquid. is that what i've seen and caused by pushing the front of the house of the gods us to them by using force explosion by using gas, genocide must've variable bottom month of the scene in civilian targets emitted can facilities and want to sit by the end. it's donations all this in addition to that, and for us to check that to us, part of you could have any by that is that you need out of say 90 and bon bonded a month, which is close to a lot of casualties among the experience of talking about they afford a 6000 palestinians, a way to kill talking about the over 100000. but us thing on the, with the engine, in addition to thousands of with it taken into custody is that are in the annual prisons is where the 3 says very badly the right. let me stop you right here. and
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just because i want to go back to this important points of enforce displacements, not only the intense bombing campaign that has caused further civilian casualties for the past few months, but the in force displacement can we talk about if, if the is really strategy of pushing palestinians out of their home at how succeeded for a we at a point where we could say that it didn't work. actually according to the, to the facts on the ground we can see is that is about in scale to achieve its goals. my evacuating motion goes on if we talk about assessing india. but in general is that i also feel towards the scene and studies because listed by using photos and creating a positive environment. that what do you boast of other things to look for? a safer place?
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a place where, where they can find the food and good living for the families. but actually all these major sticking by ways that are in the army actually failed to achieve the goals. the goals which share when the degree and by the government investigation from us is that a sort of dated on military capabilities and the evident going back to the present of the hostages, the for them, garza and then a guarantee. and that gives us the proposal for the future. if we look back to these to, to these goals. because find that is that i am the same 2 or 310 at c hostages or from the god just put in, even though there's nothing you know, and systems that he will succeed by using heavy military procedures against it. if it goes was put in by using collected the punishment by
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using the heavy affinity against the premiums. and in addition to that, use to that usage of hunger as though even against the thing and be able and that god does chris. our come back to this point later because that you just open the door for a question to antoine, director of the will sort of program and for the past 15 months, it's not only the bombings, it's not only the destruction and force displaced by the the, by products, the use of, of our vision as a weapon for the restriction of a can you walk us through some of the, the challenges that as an organization that worked hard to provide much needed a what, where the, the problem, what was the main issue that henders much of the work of the work for the program for the program. and what as being one of the biggest tenants that you have and you can see behind us is that guys that prior the 7th of october and the tragedy that
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came out and the one that came out of the 7th of october is the fact that we used to be in the hi me, the income. how are you? so you had most of the people that were having potentially access to most of the products you are and you were living in the guys us treat for most of people were actually having appropriate died university. they had loved me the ads, fruits and vegetables. and the challenge that we have is that a month after the thoughts of the war markets starting to collapse or your sante to us population that use to of, for kitchen sets. they could actually have a proper, you know, again the have the guys have a, you know, a proper oven and all of that. and suddenly you have a, mock, a tooth, any collapsing. so that way you have population that would have never, ever imagine that the we need to use, you know, a simple soul made of clay to actually do bread. you. so let me add population that
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used to off, let's see of a proper nutrition intake. and so the need no more let me know more food, no more vegetables, no more means no more fish. over the last few months, most of the population in gaza had been relying mostly on serial and purposes too. but for your half. so the challenge that we have is the wilson program 15 months into this war is the fund that you have. we are nutrition issues. most of people are and i've been cuing for hours just to have a hot meets home, run wi fi. i've been the main providers with a number of local and international and used to just cover the basic basic foods. and what are you asking me? what were some of the challenges? the challenges really that we have was actually to provide sufficient assistance to the population by
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a number of impediments we have telling just on the crossings. but we also add some in just know within garza where we started. also 2 of looting, a new, an order that was not there anymore in place. and so it was not just a negotiation about more in the notice of gaza goes on to northern governors. and we know how to know the govern rates as being also cut off. but he was also how, when, through the crossings that we had and we negotiate hots 12 mere goods entering was also the routing and yes, next time we had with him gaza. and the challenge that you have is that it was just not the market collapsing. these was also the sofa fabric that really has been infected. so if you look at it from a pure food security perspective, you have know a population that 4 months. i mean the price on some of the t food, intakes, micro nutrients. so your own future generation was now 15115 months into this war
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is to make sure that we are looking at the future days were indeed we need to a market research refurb flourishing. the last point i have on this, the market has been sold using these integrated the one point a bag of wheat flour . the cost one to 1002nd prior to worry was nights the 2nd. by the way, to the back of wheat flour is back to 80 seconds. so you see the thing that would be fascinating for us. and what we're looking at the hope is how we make sure that not only we wouldn't be able to serve population at the right level of assistance, but it's basically investigating broker for processing in markets in retainers in shop the act we can, we flourish. so that's a bits 15 months into the war. 90 percent of the population is classified. as in food cries the smoke. again, a queuing for whole, they just level helped me. barely have water and not even have some of the bakery
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that were up and running in central and south goza. so i hope that we can have the same panel in a month time. and we can see, you know, markets referral flourishing. although has repeatedly described in the past months said a mac and his name is largely bulk. and that's due to the power vacuum that's created by the intense bombing campaign by the deliberate attack. so not only law enforcement securing delivery of a truck, but also an aide worker. can you just share with an inside how, how difficult was to organize a voice is to deliver them to the distribution point designated distribution point to the challenge that we have in this conflicted that's, it's been one of the most keen to take ever in terms of conflict, it's not 15 months of war. it's actually 15 months with constance. active conflict funding. so the channels that we have is that we were serving population while the
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war was ongoing. we'd like to funding. we are also some of the stuff from the world from program that that mean directly short. that's thanks to thanks really we blended to our argument vehicle that no one was actually physically harmed, but not in the number of colleagues from other un organization or especially from and you that that being targeted while they were working just few days ago. we had products from on one of our annual, ponders and if with distribution to colleagues passed away. so the challenge that we were having was actually to continue to serve population. many of them i've been on many different moves. yesterday i was a with name, i see she moved 8 times a sees from uh, but the but the yeah. the 1st thing that she was telling me was i want to go back, but we have to follow people while they were moving. so if you're asking me a bit, what was the challenge is a very active war following people where they are,
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every time that we feel the worst stability, there was a new move. those that were in rough or so then the everything that was planned, how we got to we shape it, and now we're getting a ray of light. most of people know i going to move and hopefully we're going to follow them again in providing the right assistance where they would go back in a much more proper and safer environment hopefully. so there i want to come to you with this both right. and antoine talked about many of the incident that caused that. you grave violation of human rights as director of as means on human rights in palestine. can you give us as an example of, of human rights violation of throughout the past 15 months? what happened on i understand also there was very challenging time for you to document the documentation and process of these violations since 19 the game. i think we got
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a lot of times continued since that time to the right now. and when we have given to above, we have all the new done and the ottoman live and all of them to think about doing is fine. the deluxe. very clear way that is gonna have to commit it to the site. again, it's so that desktop with cutting was the city full a if anything do it each because i'm in the same fine. if you, if your way, what's going on the ground on this fine that this started with that, that his get his get sense of because we, with and in the human to get a little, it's like that. have a 40 prediction,
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not to be thought a good from anyone, even if you have any details telling you that maybe this hospital or that can be used in for different reasons. you should ignore this. you should keep those because save and geneva convention it says talking about the duty of that q patient boe out to, to be kid of that. that a health care when was that was that would work and i very would we didn't like get if you know anything hosted with that of the university of the schools and all that they've been building for sure including that the house is at the end of those is that a he, it cool vision for to activity inside of us could have our water crime. crime again is to your nbc junior side. this is how anyone i me i me and given the best
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one, how do you feed them a human being? why the word? i don't think that anyone can look at for what type in again as of out of you and his side. because all that, it a junior side aspect switch, which founded with in, in the junior that they've been doing the sides convention, are achieved on the ground here. so that even when we are talking about starvation, it is a many challenges. but the main, the main issue is that is that i need a strategy to push that to see me and here in does a fit of the payment not to look. yeah, i need to, we seem to die in different ways for different reasons. if you're satisfied from a been bothering him or that you should die because it is no hit scan or there is a fair amount or vision and is the same time they are bushing. that the situation
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is with to be blue with it and it's increasing the disease is here without any kind of this kid with any kind of medicine. so that i think get the last is on this question in future. if they can allow this to happen again, again, if somebody seen that if they can go ignoring the scene and case or the question before, i don't die without b 3 without reaching the freedom on the on states. i think that the lord and everyone is the best in every way. i should like ask him this question. what we can do as of and my question to all of you. do you think it will, antoine? what do you think will i think that for us the ceasefire is really your thoughts and i think that's a beyond putting on our selves. the pressure is more to, to actually be more for sending. what is the hope of the people on the ground?
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so whatever, as you money turn, we need to do to make sure that the, the cx 5 is holding. you can imagine that's 15 months into this war, older local in deals internationally and use us as the wilson program. but my colleague, i'm the united nations who would make our own most actually we are and we have a sustain ceasefire, and we actually always always all sorts of the population. so i think it's more a collective implication for all those that i know reaching the ceasefire is to make it up and so for that's what i look at. so you know how much smite i've been seeing since i arrived back into gaza. and since the moment we heard about a ceasefire so, so i think it's more of these collective commitment that i see for our sale to say, well we, we have to make it work. and after that, there is a number of elements that of course i'll, we be owns a truly the u. n. and the,
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and your organization and the agencies. so i think that's a lot of different actors. we'd have to play the role to make sure that we hold to the population of guys of the same fired faxes to improve the human interior situations. as of now understanding might be difficult to anticipate. but what, what do we have here? a science that will lead in to improve i mean, the science that we have is that we have only to extend the different cory doors and hold up. i don't even needs to look at the ceasefire. we've been saying, as humanitarian we've been saying as well, for program, there is no logistical issue. we have food in egypt, we have food in ours, don't we have food and i'm on. we are ready to bring it in. so now the re of line that i have as the director of the will to program, is that we do that's the low in order. we may be maintained in a minor. but actually we don't have the input events that we had before, crossings to be open and so like that. we can actually have a proper search of assistance within garza, for us,
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the readiness is there. now we need to make sure that the polls and then as well that we have a proper low in order within goza to make sure that we can actually reach population. that's a ride from a political perspective. do you think the ceasefire will? i think it's going to hold at least for the 1st phase, take into consideration, but as i failed to if it's, if it isn't, it is by using the phone. so it is in the photo visit i to so that, so this is for you to succeed till they can get to their hostages. this, this is the and one home thing involved at home. we can see that the cdn factions out of taking into consideration for the city, anything situation in the 3 on the instead of just in finishing this stuff, i didn't buy anything, get the 5 that,
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that of up to 10 to 15 months old. and in above it findings, and i'll put it together if the magic 3 that's can lead to it even the fluids of this confrontation of the civic things when they find their lives and the sake of about a thing, an independent state. so it's time to, to, to leave the fluids and through a but it's, again, it's an adjective that can lead to a lot of cvn given then state from international by different view, or maybe where we talk about the united states and then you administration it instead of and not having the east inflamed with the problems under crisis. so that on
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the cut off is interested in taking fall on line. most of the war was that the habit of up to about 15 months ago. so he will be in favor of sustaining, go pay them and emphasis $5.00 out of that the it keeps the situation quite on. um basically because he is the one who broke up this normalization. so he will try to revive this this to connect and once again allow a new uh, vision. and the, the engineering of the missing piece was that was beautiful. thank you really quick for the sake of time. i wanna hear your point of view from the human rights perspective is the ceasefire. an opportunity for you to start documenting more
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properly. all these agree violation is that going to help you? we are, we, we keep the documentation even during the order, but not in that a lot of ways like to coordinate and to communicate every single, like regulation. but for the, for the we will have it then back to this. if was easy about them do not, and we didn't stop doing this the did you on the side? and i think we will increasing a lot of war 2 in things and unity and bringing the war could even to be account for what they are committed here. we, when increasing our working this with our leagues, why the world wide, the world with wizards? i think the lawyers organization to follow each ward could have been to be account about what he did, what people material final thoughts from the 3 of you, an expert in your field,
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the coming months. what are the prospects for god, future value, antoine? i mean, really the, the one that's i hope you're going to see is that you don't need to have food. and else i knew what goes out before the 7th of october. and you have, i mean, we will, which to the use. i was the, to the, uh with you know, policy and then view as, and we were actually just discussing with the youth. and i was expecting, you know, more discussion related to, you know, how we are going to survive tomorrow was going to happen. most of them were, i was looking after the engineers say, how do we respond to regression? i was looking at the, some of the ladies that were there. they were actually lawyers. and they were saying, well, what is the way forward? how do we have job creation? i'm not just being not even telling you that the number of conflict that'd be systematically you have a generation. even in the rumbles that you see around this,
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they would actually say, can we actually juno code for processing again? can i reinstate some of the greenhouses? can i look i prefer we addition system that just to be on the agree control, but i think that they will look or so from our end, we already contemplating how to make sure that the meals are working again. how can we make sure that we are going to have the bar factory up and running again? so from my perspective of the world for program, this is what we want to look at. how much do we need to carry on to provide food in the house? how can we make sure the markets are recovering? and then or so, or to this use? what are the jump that they're going to do? this used to be an area where you have the highest density of pj, the so i only gonna not going to face a brain drain. and actually we're going to count on this. you was to rebuild to know what these guys are. thank you. that's a ride in a few words. what is the future of cost? i believe the future of government is about the future. in case in general,
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according to the u. s. plans to that gentleman. and there is a plan to, to revise the quotes in which so that it'd be, i can normalize it to the nation, which is what i intend of it will be an attempt to revive the issue by a project to the death can lead to the state the solutions, but 1st of all, it needs understand institution and unification of thing and, and institution of unification. national unity. since resilience, i'm doing good. our most difficult to to reach to the, to state solutions with sounds of a student and get to and given them to the cdm. is that a good thing? good of that?
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is that any of your vision on the genocide, the little which we boss and 5 was within the 70 in boston the years it's time to finish all this stuff out in the bio chain a solution to develop the an issue. otherwise, the reason when i didn't mean on a statement on this level of seeing an issue is being sold in a minute time. if there's time here, what, what is the future of this thing or the thing that you will have a different like future? i think a heavy like because a lot of people is very active to be be sort of then what do we have before? and i think we will achieve the help from every way. because on the list, if you see in this genocide the now when i knew they wouldn't try to white wash
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their faces with the i the little because i'm think of the union and i believe that we will have, we will of each or 3 of them and we will have our own a safe, like any people. why the as well as the thank you very much and thanks for the inside. we appreciate it very much. we're unfortunately comes on into our program. thank you. and we'll see you next time phase. right. the traffic and it's designed to inflame and defense the way that the story is being told. not right. and it's not accurate from social networks to legacy media. the listening post explosives, the policies behind the headlights pulled out the
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