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support and seizes the full a total weight with detailed coverage. and it says that they have no way of knowing how many people are still underground. they only give an official number. once a, with the operation is complete from around the world, full cost is a warning of extreme winds. i had everybody head across the southern california, fully aware this may be fall from the children seem to be specifically hit by quote, conferences which uh, drones that have fire power capability and lots of them with sort of shots in the back in the head and the upper tools, so these are the intentional targeting of children and the court up to so the follow that say that authorize it by somebody. that's what she was doing. so i assume that they are the

welcome to reframe where we seek new conversations and perspective. i'm fatima, but to i'm in this series we'll be discussing one of the biggest stories about time the war and also and house international officers are responding to in my guess this week is british plastic and reconstructive surgeon, dr. victoria rose. dr. rose has had 1st hand experience observing the destruction of the health care system by israeli forces, and especially it's devastating impact on the thank you so much for joining us today. victoria, you work, it's beyond add verbal and watching you speak and seeing what you've done is really so moving, you are a british and they just stopped her. but you have no family ties to gaza. you didn't grow up the, you don't really have any direct connection. what was it that made you pack your

bags and go out the to assess, went to gaza in 2019 i think, or because the 18 and i was shamed into going by my colleagues. i worked at kings college major tumor center and 2 of my colleagues was very influential in a charity cooled. i do say, besides orthopedic surgeons and i deals as a child. i see that office that has an aide and supports as of international disasters. and both ends and they had picked a garza in 2009 and had done some tumor courses that initially i didn't get involved as time went on, i could see what they were doing and i went and i to 2 missions. and as soon as i go that i realize that the problem was that they were in

a plastic surgeons and gaza on the train, plastic surgeons and guns. i said there are general surgeons that have develop some plastic surgery skills, so that's a very good burn search. and that he trained to general surgery, but there's nobody that could do any plastic surgery program. i sausage in 2019 looking for somebody that we could train and what color see, who is a past succession from gaza. and he said i, i want to learn how to do trauma, and he works with me for 2 years. he did the 1st class let i'm pilot repass, i us goes in search and he did a breast reconstruction case. and so every sort of month. so every other week i was getting these sites assistant amazing stuff that he was doing and i was just so proud of. and then in october the pictures changed and he was sending a very different for touch and he sent me

a picture. i remember this very well on the 31st of october and it was a 7 year old and he said, i don't know what to do. i think i'm gonna have to take what do you think i should to? and at that point i so said i think we need to go and help him. and the 1st time you went because you went twice. yeah. since october, the 7th. the 1st time you were in gauze of what was your role, what were you doing on a daily basis in the hospitals? we'd been given emergency medical team spaces by administrative health. so the missions and we put a plan together to say the a, a would be to work with the colleagues in gaza and takes much medical equipment with us as we could. so that's all i thought was my agend, but i'm afraid to 247 can use 2 and a half weeks. can you describe what the atmosphere of working under those

conditions on the, on the siege under attack? what, what that was like? i don't think i really thought very much about where i was and what was happening outside the hospital was because there was just so much to do. it was just relent. this is a constant people to see constant winds that needed the brightening. you never go on top of it. every time i finished a case, somebody would show me something else. and it was, she is just absorbing and already kept thinking is right. i've got to do this and then we're going to do that. and then this shop needs to come back to this and it just kept going and kept going. and you just didn't really stop. and you said victoria, that's close to 90 percent of those who operated on and gaza with children. unicef has cooled, guys are the world's most dangerous place to be a child from what you. so why wouldn't unicef say that?

so i think that as time went on, we saw a more and more children. and certainly when i went back in august, we were at nasa for a month and i operated again every day. and most of my lists were just children in what was, what was the funds was it's, it's substitution. it's in the explosion when a bloss goes off, everything around you guys weaponized, well the masonry and fits of costs of the width, tops and energy, and then they hit a civilian at quite a high velocity and that will penetrate skin, and it will live that break the bone on denise or it will penetrate the chest to the abdomen, and that was the bulk of what we was seeing. but we also saw a loss of buttons because as the he said the last and then we saw police injury. so

we saw a lot of sniper injuries, but the children seem to be specifically hit by quote, comp to is which drones that have fire power capability. and lots of them were sort of shots in the back, in the head and the upper tools. so these are in the intentional targeting of children. i mean, if it's the head until so and back and the quote comp to so the following, i say that the author rated by somebody, that's what she was doing. so i assume that they are targeting children. what we saw was that the so cause the children were between the age of 5 and probably 15. and when we went with them assess, the theory was that was the children on the 5 was an age where the parents would pick them up and run with them. and obviously anyone 15 an old uh is quite

gentleness, fee on, on runaway. but that tron should children between 5 and 15 are often sort of, you know, confused by what's going on and the quick is to get up. and so that was, i think, why we saw so many injuries in the age group. and the, the trauma that these children must face it's, it's been said of gaza that there is no post traumatic stress disorder because there's no post. did you experience this? were you able to, to spend time in some cases with these children, but definitely with children that have huge psychological issues. we had a, a 7 year old cold mohammed who had been in the last injury that had for the house down that he was in. and he was with his father, and in the last his father had died and his mother spoke beautiful english. and she said to me, he just waiting to speak to me. he was looking to,

he doesn't want to engage with any of the dog. says he just wants to see his father . it was quite a difficult problem because i was watching him not to recover from an injury that he should recover from in we had. we had advertises like and we'd close to and we grafted it. and we had close to the winds on his other leg, but he just, the williams just didn't heal. he wasn't a thing. he kept getting infections. he just wasn't progressing. i'm not totally as to say, his mental state. and we know, of course, now the cause a has the largest cohort of turned up. it is in the world. it you said the the doctor has been, does the journalists now, i mean the killing the journalist on so it's doctors like yourself telling us what's happened. but of course, we know that over a 1000 health care workers have also been killed by israel, doctors,

paramedics health, co workers have also been abducted detained, tilted with the doctors, who you spent time with ben garza who, who move to particularly who you, who you would always keep with you. loans. no. so no as i, when i was at nah, so in august i worked with a nice assist who told me that he had been taken from sheath and health. and is there any prison for 43 days where his hands were tied behind his back and he was blindfolded. he lost it 10 killers in ways, and he said he was beaten every day, and then and then released. and i remember looking at him and thinking, i can't believe that you'll by cutting off what, okay. and i think there is this message of feeling of responsibility of the health care teams and gaza to continue coming to work in some, you know,

terrible circumstances. faddie who is one of my fits and this is have come back off to 6 weeks off. and his 10 year old son had been killed in the last one of my other colleagues. shade me footage of sadie running to pick his son up dead off the floor and carrying him out of the sort of area. he had 3 children to goes and an a 10 year old boy. and you just, what she, what do i say to him when he comes back to look it's, you know, it's, but then everybody that you speak to has lost a sibling. i'm of a 5. i mean obviously the ones that have lost children. if you feel more full because you don't expect to lose your children, but i, i don't think i meant anyone that was unscathed by, by this i'm in the time that you were there in these hospitals for the, with a quiet moments was the light moments between the doctors?

yes. yeah. that, well, i mean i think medicine is, is not that you have to sort of make the best of, of, of what you have. and we certainly had a lot of interesting sort of scrap heat challenge moments when we ran out of stuff that we had to in advise for and obviously your own and the same situation together . and they are so grateful that you've come to help them, that there is the sort of, you know, lovely bone between you so as a lot of camaraderie, you said that you went twice. and the 1st time you'll be on monday was to bring as many supplies and yeah, the 2nd time you went back to god. so did you have a different experience? well the 1st time we went in we travels voc highway through this tonight as a and cost at rafa. and we were in the u. n. convoy and there was no restriction really on what you could take it. you could take whatever you could get into your many of us. so we managed to take 25 suitcases with us in march for those medical

equipment. and obviously we had colleagues inside who told us what they was show told. so it was, it was almost, you know, a past fix a scenario for us and that we turned out with everything that they needed and extra homes. in august we travels through israel and we crossed it council on which is controlled by co got who are the commission to the activities in the territories. so, so basically israel and they had restricted lots of things including the number of people that could enter. so in march we were in a convoy of 19 vans with major and g. as in mind, a child is she's that has so many adults as in this is in august graham and i were there any 2 sessions on the coach? there were any 20 seats on the coach. only 5 of them went to emergency medical

teams. one of us could, i need take one back in and it has to weighs 23 kilos. and we were told that we had to take our own food from nearby d. s. plus to a supplied. and did you have to bring your own water as well? yes. that your most for 3 days. that was, that was the advice to what medical equipment could you take? well, i packs a very small, okay. i, i think from the march to, if i knew the surgery i needed to, i had a friend who had less no. so, who told me that, you know what kit they didn't have my fittest district thomas's putting me a very small sets of instruments. and i went in with a few disposable bits and pieces and, and yeah we, we got by i'm, we're going to turn to the audience on a 2nd, but i just want to ask, would you go back? yes. i think when you go and you know that you're making a difference, it's very hard. no,

it's go back. and the only thing that stops me going back is my family said she might have a hall, philip. i know how difficult it is to send it. when i go, i'm not the only reason the i'm i'm ever rest as in about going back is i need to make sure that he's comfortable. if i can sort of get him around we, we are looking at came back in february. and if you've got a question for victoria, please put your hands up. we've got one over there. i am constantly shocked about how people in the you came to the west in general know, unanimously outraged about what's going on. and so i was wondering what would you like to see john this do to come about what you say, the unengaged population? how do we, how do we make them say, how do we make them? can i know a 100 percent convince that the unengaged and they don't care or more and more

i think that the government doesn't speak for the majority of the population. every 40 i know feels the same as i do, including my jewish friends. so i don't know where this is coming from, that nobody you know, give does a dime about palestine and what's happening and gone. so i think that is coming at high levels and i, i think we need to continue demonstrating and making it known that we're not supporting what the government and doing with regard to this will. i'll just take the lady in the back. do you think does a real disconnect between what's happening on the ground and what we're seeing here and how does that make you feel if you do you think that exists in, in the media and then the general? yeah. i think think there's a real disconnect. i don't think that we're saying as exactly what's going

on for the i think a loss is a lot of the younger generation think that it's fine that you're getting the feet that you need from the palestinians who are pushing it on and instagram and take talk but those platforms are not designed to deliver news designs to keep you on them too. so products and assets to your feed may contain some filters from palestinians, but that's not the majority of phase. lots of other people are still getting names is kittens and puppies. so you can consider that to be a, a news outlet for the mess is not. so what i've noticed is the same people that are approaching made sense to, to, to university students, to, you know, to, to, to us around is there. and this trudge, that is, this is an interested in what's happening. and it's those people that i think we need to engage because i think if they could see what was going on,

they would change their opinions of the situation for good question over here, my wife will try what can we provide? strongly counseling and child protection services, and garza most changed more recently for us is all teams now say that they see signs of acute and complex trauma on every child that they see that they meet sending cancer. the keep on certain communities never how to respond to a q trauma population level before. so what do you feel would be needed from the international community to respond to alongside mental health impacts and counseling way. okay, so i have to look very hard at mental health support. i don't know how many of the n g a is prioritize mental health in the medical teams now. but it's, it's going to be needed. once we can get back in the cities and manageable to do that at a, at a population level, i think it is manageable. catherine who was with us, who was from new way,

was seeing every child that we authorize to to and then she had a team of local palestinian. so psychic therapist for you, you need to remember as everybody thinks that goes. that was the sort of, you know, whole of a place where it was all full of refugees that barely spoke english. it's in the hearts and it's never been like that that she she, while educators, all of her women have professions as lots of physiotherapists that with palestinian . there is about facial therapist, lots of psychotherapists, and they had to come back to work and well working. so they have a huge number of the own teams that will continue. and they, you know, they even restore to training the medical students. so when we went in march, the medical students had always events. the medical schools have been destroyed and fast way up. but in september they reopened, and they that continued to do the medical school exams. and 3 of all students is

assessing the final exams now. so now we've got a question over here. so off to the missions garza, how did it affect your life? often when you came back to the u. k, a lot of people say did i suffer sort of post traumatic stress? so you know, how was it was, it was, i see, i have to remember that every day when i go to cook at kings, i see it small children run out in front of the car whose lives are going to change it, that you know, indefinitely for them and the family, and i also in the rest of my time, you know, tell people on a, in a setting, we'll see people on a fairly regular basis here who are going to die from cancer. so i have always had this as part of my life, but the thing i'm find really hard to guess have is i can never stop cancer and i can never stop for you while it's running in front of calls

on braxton high rose spots. if we had a ceasefire a small ro, i possibly wouldn't have to see another, the 7 year old in gauze, and that's really hard to, to rationalize. i can't take one more question if someone's going to be very precise. yeah, i so i'm lucy, i'm from the u. k. i'm a jonathan student now and i used to work for a processing in children's charts either walked in garza. yeah, so over the last year obviously hospitals. normally i meant to be a place of safety where people go to be safe. and over the last year, obviously we've seen the offices and since his hospitals have been targeted, how concerned with you of this for you while you with that or were you just so busy and consolidating with cases that you one, wasn't even your in your, in your mind at the time this i think in the march it was,

it wasn't and it wasn't really in my mind when we, when we got to the rafa crossing, we had a to any d conflicted with the idea and then i was at the hospital and i i don't think i really thought too much about my safety in august. we've partnered with m ss and they take security very seriously. they had had 2 of the vehicles targets it and that that never made the news because the people that were killed for palestinian medics. so they had had, the thing is bad and they were really conscientious. and every night we had to do a secure seabreeze thing with where we would go through a math of the tablets for a while. uh, escape route would be where the call would be, who was driving and every night that would be a conversation that when i'm not sure whether you'll be able to go to the hospital tomorrow at the time. i just remember being in few ray said by them that they can,

you know, letting us just get on with with work. but now that i'm back and i look at how on top of it they will. uh, i think, you know, i'm, i'm very grateful. i was with and they took, they took security very seriously and his might be a impossible question as but do you have a profound memory from your time and gaza? that will always stay with you. i had a group of, of medical students that i inherited from the pen goals for so and the 8 since then it was need you to them that i go through the volume of work that i got through. i became very fond of them. and when i knew i was getting back in august on our group chat, i said, you know, this is what i'm going to say. and we decided that we would, i would take some time off on a sunday and have breakfast together. and on the saturday morning

abdul rahman died. his house got phones and a single fire attack and he was killed with his aunts and his cousin. and he was 21. and he was a 3rd and medical student the following day. i've seen nobody turned up. i think when he was really depressed and it was really difficult. but then on the monday they came and we sat in the gods and we use of talks about, you know, what was happening with medical schools and you know, what, how jerome, his parents were and then of the romans sister comes out to me. and i, she said to me and you really inspired him and i thank you very much. thanks again. thank you so much, victoria, for everything you've done and to do and that you will do in the

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