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on the medical stuff, nothing is usable and this hospital is no longer suitable to receive any injured to receive any basis. this is the bid from the emergency department. and here with what was the counter. everything has been that nothing is usable. let's get him to sign and show you more about this. his facility, alyssa, blaze, this lady only allow me to mention that that is why the army detained, as there was to hundreds of displaced polish simians who used to show stuff inside the vist health facility. and closing the door at some sophia, the rector of him, i loved one hospital. so everything is just
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and this is the situation that's coming up. glad hospital which is completely out of service. people here are trying so hard to clean the quarter doors the some of the rules of the hospital, but the level is 6 or exceeded at all expectations and viewing the measures why they can handle it. i just need to come out on the one fall assign . on the spot the ceasefire. 3 palestinians were shot dead bodies, rarely, soldiers and garza. the incidents took place, an elbow, rage in the center of the strip and rough uh, in the south. at least 10 of the palestinians were injured in other shootings. meanwhile, more than a 100 bodies of being uncovered from beneath the level and rougher discoveries followed the 1st efforts to clear revel in the city and the search off of the names
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of an estimate of 10000 people and under destroyed homes and buildings across cancer. it takes the death total to move the 47000 hours after 3 is where the campuses were released from gauze and 90 palestinian prisoners were allowed home as part of the seas. 5 deal. one of them need is all gig, who is the united with the 3 children. she spent the last 8 months in this very presence of being arrested for support of terrorism, which was never sentence. right, you have to diagnose it from the bucket. type forget of course a website. obviously the don't come much more and in all directions of donald trump . rephrase is an ext bye for now. the, the sun go south, challenging place to work from. as a journalist,
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you're always pushing our boundaries. we are the ones the extra mile. we're all the media goals. we go there and we give them a time to tell their story. the children seem to be specifically hit by quote, comp to is which drones that have fire power capability and lots of them with sort of shots in the back in the head and the upper tools. so these are the intentional targeting of children and the court cup to so the following to say that authorized by somebody that's what she was doing. so i assume that they are the welcome to reframe where we seek new conversations and perspective i'm fatima. but to i'm in this series, we'll be discussing one of the biggest stories about time,
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the war and also, and how international dumpsters are responding to him. my guess this week is british plastic and reconstructive such as dr. victoria rose. dr. rose has had 1st hand experience observing the destruction of the health care system by israeli forces, and especially it's devastating impact on the thank you so much for joining us today. victoria, you work, it's beyond add verbal and watching you speak and seeing what you've done is really so moving and you are a british and they just dr. but you have no family ties to gaza. you didn't grow up so you don't really have any direct connection. what was it that made you pack your bags and go out the the assessment to gaza in 2019,
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i think whole could be 18 and i was shamed into going by my colleagues. i worked at kings college major tumor center and 2 of my colleagues was very influential in a charity cooled. i do say, besides orthopedic surgeons and i deals as a child. i see that office that has an aide and supports as of international disasters. and both ends and they had picked a garza in 2009 and had done some trauma courses that initially i didn't get involved as time went on, i could see what they were doing. and i went and i to 2 missions. and as soon as i got that, i realize that the problem was that there are no plastic surgeons and goes on no trained plastic surgeons and guns. i said there are general surgeons that have develop some plastic surgery skills, so that's a very good burn search. and that he trained to general surgery,
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but there's nobody that could do any plastic surgery program i saw says in 2019 looking for somebody that we could train and what color see, who is a past succession from gaza. and he said i, i want him to learn how to do trauma. and he works with me for 2 years. he did the 1st class let i'm pilot with half i asked goals and search and he did a breast reconstruct some case. and so every sort of month, so every other week i was getting these phases of the amazing stuff that he was doing and i was just so proud of him. and then in october the pictures changed and he was sending me very different for touch. and he sent me a picture, i remember this very well on the 31st of october and it was a 7 year old on he said,
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i don't know what to do. i think i'm gonna have to take what you will thing i should to. and at that point i so said i think we need to go and help him. and the 1st time you went because he went twice. yeah. since october, the 7th. the 1st time you were in gauze or what was your role? what were you doing on a daily basis in the hospitals? we'd been given emergency medical team states as by administrative health. so the missions and we put a plan together to say the a, a would be to work with the colleagues in gauze, takes much medical equipment with us as we could. so that's all i thought was my agend, but i'm afraid to 247 can use 2 and a half weeks. can you describe what the atmosphere of working under those conditions under on the siege under attack? what, what that was like? i don't think i really thought very much about where i was and what was happening
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outside the hospital, who was because there was just so much to do. it was just relent. this um, you know, constant people to see constant wounds that needed the bride thing. you never go on top of it. every time i finished a case, somebody would show me something else. and it was, she is absorbing and already kept thinking is right. i've got to do this and then we're going to do that. and then this child needs to come back to the it's a and it just kept going and kept going. and you just didn't really stop. and you said victoria, that's close to 90 percent of those you operated on and does that with children? unicef has cooled guys or the world's most dangerous place to be a child from what you. so why wouldn't you and assess, say that. so i think that as time went on, we saw a more and more children. and certainly when i went back in august,
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we were at nasa for a month and i operated again every day. and most of my lists were just children in what was, what was the funds was it's, it's substitution. it's in the explosion when a boss goes off everything around you guys weaponized, well the masonry and fits of costs, which stops in the energy. and then they hit a civilian at quite a high velocity, and that will penetrate skin, and it will live that break the bone underneath or it will penetrate the chest to the abdomen. and that was the bulk of what we was seeing. but we also saw a loss of buttons because as the he said the last and then we saw police injury. so we saw a lot of sniper injuries, but the children seem to be specifically hit by quote, comp to is which drones that have fire power capability. and lots of them
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were sort of shots in the back, in the head and the upper tools. so these are in the intentional targeting of children. i mean if it's the head until so and back and the court cop to so the following day, so that the author rated by somebody, that's what she was doing. so i assume that they are targeting children. what we saw was that the so cause the children were between the age of 5 and probably 15. and when we went with them assess, the theory was the oldest, the children on the 5 was an age where the parents would pick them up and run with them. and obviously anyone 15 an old uh is quite gentleness, fee on, on runaway. but that tron should children between 5 and 15 are often sort of, you know, confused by what's going on and the quick is to get up. and so that was,
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i think, why we saw so many injuries in the age group. and the, the trauma that these children must face it's, it's been said of gaza that there is no post traumatic stress disorder because there's no post. did you experience this? were you able to, to spend time in some cases with these children, but definitely with children that have huge psychological issues. we had a, a 7 year old cold mohammed who had been in the last injury that had for the house down that he was in. and he was with his father and in the bloss his father had died and his mother spoke beautiful english. and she said to me, he just waiting to speak to me. he was looking to, he doesn't want to engage with any of the dog. says he just wants to see his father . it was quite a difficult problem because i was watching him not to recover from an injury that
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he should recover from in that we had. we had advertises back and we'd close to and we grafted it. and we had close to the winds on his other leg, but he just the williams just didn't heal. he wasn't a thing. he kept getting infections. he just wasn't progressing. i'm not totally as jews that his mental state. and we know, of course now the cause a has the largest cohort of trying to empties in the world. it. you said that the doctor has been garza, i'm a journalist now. i mean the killing the journalist on so it's doctors like yourself telling us what's happened. but of course we know that over a 1000 health care workers have also been killed by as well. doctors, paramedics health, co workers have also been abducted detained, tilted with the doctors who you spend time with ben garza who,
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who move to particularly who you who you would always keep with you. so let's not send those i. when i was at na, so in august i was with a nice assist who told me that he had been taken from she saw and told. and is there any presence of 43 days where his hands were tied behind his back and he was blindfolded. he lost it 10 killers and ways and he said he was beaten every day and then and then released. and i remember looking at him and thinking i can't believe that you'll find cutting off so. okay. and i think there is this massive feeling of responsibility of the health care teams and gaza to continue coming to work in some, you know, terrible circumstances. faddie who was one of my sits and this is have come back off to 6 weeks off. and his 10 year old son had been killed in last. one of my
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other colleagues showed me footage of fatty running to pick his son up dead off the floor. and carrying him out of the sort of area. he had 3 children to go some and a 10 year old boy and you just what she, what do i say to him when he comes back to look it's, you know, it's, but then everybody that you speak to has lost a sibling. i'm of a 5, i mean obviously the ones that have lost children, if you feel more full because you don't expect to lose your children. but i, i don't think i'm the anyone that was on skies by, by this. and in the time that you were there in these hospitals, were there with a quiet moments. was there light moments between the doctors? yes. yeah. that what i mean, i think medicine is, is not that you have to sort of make the best of, of, of what you have and reset. and you had a lot of interesting sort of scrap paint challenge moments when we ran out of stuff
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that we had to in advice for. and obviously your role in the same situation together. and they are so grateful that you've come to help them, that there is this sort of, you know, lovely bond between you. so as a lot of camaraderie, you said that you went twice and, and the 1st time you'll be on monday was to bring as many supplies and yeah, the 2nd time you went back to god. so did you have a different experience? well the 1st time we went and we traveled voc highway through this tonight as a and cost at rafa. and we were in the u. n. convoy and there was no restriction really on what you could take it. you could take whatever you can get into your many of us. so we managed to take 25 suitcases with us in the march for the medical equipment. and obviously we had colleagues inside who told us what they were show told. so it was, it was almost, you know,
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a perfect scenario for us and that we turned out with everything that they needed and extra homes. in august we travels through israel and we crossed at comb shalom, which is controlled by co got who are the commission to activities in the territories. so, so basically israel and they had restricted lots of things including the number of people that could enter. so in march, we were in a convoy of 19 vans with major and g. as in mind, a child sees that has so many adults as in this is in august graham and i were there any 2 surgeons on the coach? there were any 20 seats on the coach. only 5 of them went to emergency medical teams. one of us could, i need take one back in and it has to weighs 23 kilos. and we were told that we had to take all right and seed from nearby ds plus to
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a supplies. and then did you have to bring your own water as well? yes, at your most for 3 days. that was, that was the advice to what medical equipment could you take? well, i packs a very small, okay. i, i think from the march to, if i knew the surgery i needed to, i had a friend who had less no. so, who told me that, you know what kit they didn't have my status district thomas's putting me a very small assess of instruments. and i went in with a few disposable bits and pieces and, and yeah we, we got by i'm, we're going to turn to the audience on a 2nd, but i just want to ask, would you go back? yes. i think when you go and you know that you're making a difference, it's very hard notes. go back. i'm the only thing that stops me going back is my family and say she might have a hall, philip, i know how difficult it is to send it. when i go,
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i'm not the only reason the i'm i'm ever rest as in about going back is i need to make sure that he's comfortable. if i can sort of get him around we, we are looking at came back in february. and if you've got a question for victoria, please put your hand up. we've got one over there. i am constantly shocked about how people in the you came to the west in general, a know, unanimously outraged about what's going on. and so i was wondering what would you like to see john this do to come about what you say, the unengaged population? how do we, how do we make them say, how do we make them? can i know a 100 percent convince that the unengaged and they don't care more and more. i think the government doesn't speak for the majority of the population. every for today i know feels the same as i do,
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including my jewish friends. so i don't know where this is coming from, that nobody you know, gives, gives a damn about palestine and what's happening and gone. so i think that is coming at high levels and i, i think we need to continue demonstrating and making it known that we're not supporting what the government and doing with regard to this will of just take the lady in the back. do you think does a real disconnect between what's happening on the ground and what we're seeing here and how does that make you feel if you do you think that exists in, in the media and then the general? yeah. i think think that's a real disconnect. i don't think that we're saying as exactly what's going on a for the i think a loss is a lot of the younger generation think that it's fine that you're getting the feed that you need from the palestinians who are passing it on and instagram and take
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talk, but those platforms are not designed to deliver news that designs to keep you on them so, so products and assets to your feed may contain some filters from palestinians, but that's not the majority of phase. lots of other people are still getting means is kittens. and puppies. so you cons, consider that to be a, a news outlet. so the mess is not sort. i've noticed it's the same people that are approaching made sense to talk to university students to you know, to, to, to, as well. and is there a and this trudge, that is, this is an interested in what's happening. and it's those people that i think we need to engage. because i think if they could see what was going on, they would change their opinions of the situation for good question. over here i work for which i which, and we provide strong counseling and child protection services,
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and garza most changed more recently for us is all teams now say that they see signs of acute and complex trauma on every child that they see that they meet sending cancer, the coupon certain communities never had to respond to a cute from a population level before. so what do you feel would be needed from the international community to respond to alongside mental health impacts counseling way. okay, so i have to look very hard at mental health support. i don't know how many of the n g a is prioritize mental health in the medical teams now. but it's, it's going to be needed. once we can get back in, is it even manageable to do that at a, at a population level? i think it is manageable. catherine who was with us, who was from no way was seeing every child that we authorize to to and then she had a team of local palestinian. so psychotherapist for you,
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you need to remember as everybody thinks that goes, that was the sort of, you know, whole of a place where it was all full of refugees that barely spoke english. it's in the hearts and it's never been like that. that's usually well educators, older for women, have professions as lots of physiotherapists that with palestinian roosevelt patients, therapist, lots of psychotherapists. and they had to come back to work and well working. so they have a huge number of the own teams that will continue. and they, you know, they even restore to training the medical students. so when we went in knowledge, the medical students had always have been the medical schools have been destroyed and fast way up. but in september they reopened. and they that continued to do the medical school exams and 3 of all students, just switching the final exams now. so now um we've got a question over here. so off to the missions garza,
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how did it affect your life? often when you came back to the u. k, a lot of people say did i suffer sort of post traumatic stress? so you know, how was it was, it was, i see, i have to remember that every day when i go to cook at kings, i see it small children run out in front of the car whose lives are going to change it, that you know, indefinitely for them and the family, and i also in the rest of my time, you know, tell people on a, in a setting, we'll see people on a fairly regular basis here who are going to die from cancer. so i have always had this as part of my life, but the thing i'm find really hard to guess have is i can never stop cancer and i can never stop for you while it's running in front of calls on braxton high rose spots. if we had a ceasefire a small ro, i possibly wouldn't have to see another, the 7 year old in gauze,
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and that's really hard to, to rationalize. i can't take one more question if someone's going to be very precise. yeah, i so i'm lucy, i'm from the u. k. i'm a jonathan street now and i used to work for a product and in children's tara to you that worked in garza. yeah, so over the last year, obviously hospitals. normally i meant to be a place of safety where people go to be safe. and over the last year, obviously we've seen the offices and since his hospitals have been targeted, how concerned with you of this for you while you with that or you just so busy and consolidating with cases that you one, wasn't even your in your, in your mind at the time, i think in the march it was, it wasn't and it wasn't really in my mind when we, when we got to the rafa crossing, we had a to any d conflicted with the idea and then i was at the hospital and i,
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i don't think i really thought too much about my safety in august we've partnered with m ss and they take security very seriously. they had had 2 of the vehicles targets it and that that never made the news because the people that were killed for palestinian medics. so they had had, the thing is bad and they were really conscientious. and every night we had to do a security briefing with where we would go through a math of the tablets for a while. uh, escape route would be where the call would be, who was driving and every night they would be a conversation that when i'm not sure whether you'll be able to go to the hospital tomorrow at the time, i just remember being in few related by them that they had, you know, letting us just get on with, with work, but now that i'm back and i look at how on top of it they will. uh,
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i think, you know, i'm, i'm very grateful i was with and they took, they took security very seriously. and his might be a impossible question, but do you have a profound memory from your time in gaza that will always stay with you. i had a group of of medical students that i inherited from the pen garza hospice. so in the 8 since then, it was need use of them that i go through the volume of work that i got through. i became very fondest and when i knew i was getting back in august on i agree, chat. i said, you know, this is what i'm going to say and we decided that we would, i would take some time off on a sunday and have breakfast together. and on the saturday morning abdul rahman died. his house got phones and a single fire attack and he was killed with his aunts and his cousin,
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and he was 21. and he was a 3rd and medical student the following day, i've seen nobody turned up. everybody was really depressed and it was very difficult. but then on the monday they came and we saw in the gods, and we use of talks about, you know, what was happening with medical schools and you know, what? well, how over on his parents, why and and then of the romans, sister comes out to me and i, she said to me and you really and surprise him. and i thank you very much. thank you. thank you so much, victoria, for everything you've done and you do and that you will do in the future. the
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