thing else, they need to make the decision to go back to their places of origin when across the mexican border cities, including see that what is they know. so and my, the model is 9 similar spaces are being prepared for the expected in slots of deportees in the coming days. and i want to emphasize the word expected, because while there has been an increase in us government agencies posting on social media about record number of newport stations. the reality is that at least here on the mexican side of the border, the number of people being deported has so far not shown a significant increase from the usual numbers. let's remember that deportations have never stopped. and every day, hundreds of people are sent back over the borders to different cities across mexico . and the numbers we've seen so far are more or less in line with what they've been in recent years. still, that is clearly expected to change in the coming days and weeks, and that is why centers like this one are being inaugurated with great fanfare from local authorities who are keen to look prepared for what's coming. so the message

today from mexican authorities is we are ready to head out. yeah, no, i'll just 0 tiquana mexico. us tons of ministration is also puts a 3 month pause on almost all us for an aid. how's it go? hand explains from washington dc. the day he was an all your president, donald trump, signed an executive order, basically saying a pause needs to happen for 90 days when it comes to us for an assistance. now it's not unusual for presidents and they're incoming teams to pause future contracts. but we now know that is not what is happening here. the secretary of state, marco rubio signed a memorandum basically positive all us for an assistant spending as of right now. so in the middle of the night, local time, all of these people and companies and contractors started getting memos, basically saying a staff work notice. so what exactly does that mean except for a to israel and egypt and immediate food assisted it means all us born assistance is going to be paused. what does that do?

that's about $68000000000.20. it went to things like building democracy, piece forces and security building schools, building hospitals. mine clearing the a program that gives aids to people with h l, a v. that's going to be paused. so it is going to have a very large impact on the community here that does this sort of work. but really across the globe, people are going to see this impact immediately. for example, if your child has a school being dealt with us for an assistance that construction is supposed to stop immediately particular. hi, elda 0, washington, that's it. for me, the news continue 0 now to 0. i'll through upfront the in japan divorce often leads to one parent losing only contact with the children.

judges usually grunt sole custody to whoever was last, physically with the child, with a new law set to allow the joint custody one. 0, one east investigates. depends parental abductions on i will just the era across the globe. indigenous peoples are grappling with the devastating impact of a rapidly escalating climate crisis if they remain sidelined in environmental decision making. or how can meaningful change happen, and those were most affected, aren't even part of the discussion. that conversation coming up. the 1st, as was wildfires and other natural disasters, fueled by the climate crisis, continue to read habits across the planet. environmentalists are denouncing the inaction of world leaders. so what's behind the failure to address with fights as appalling in x, a central threats to our way of life on earth. and with that one truck returning the power in washington, things about to get even worse. earlier are asked those very questions,

this week's headliner, environmental activists, etc, but the credit unburied, thank you so much for joining us when upfront. thank you for having a claimant. conferences have in theory, been a space where environmental list and activists and governments come together and they discuss pressing environmental issues, things like global warming, pollution fossil fuels, the impact of the climate on the world, you know, important stuff. uh, what are they working in your view? do you think that there have been any material gains that have come from climate conferences? i mean, of course, one could argue that there have been some marginal when from them. but i think also we need to zoom out the base where here 2024 at the kind of price it's, it's rapidly escalating last year that will expand at all times probably. and we don't get permission and we have about 6 hope you're every quarter. and the

thursday or the week, the 1.5 to the target, we are obviously doing something wrong. it will that these trying to conference if needing through our increase emission. and marty whole thing on paper. i think as, as it is right now, you find it comforting to talk to little time and time again to be a place for people in power and those most responsible for the time to come together and watch them. so um, disney i called the $1773.00 talk you will be present, which is more than the top 10 most vulnerable country and then again combined. and so i think we'll just stop pretending that under these circumstances, these kind of conferences will lead to any real time of action. i want to drill down on that more when you say green washing in this context, what exactly doesn't mean for those who aren't familiar, like what kind of violations, what kind of failures, what, what exactly is happening here? yeah. yeah. so let's take this is called as a, as

a textbook example of green washing. i'm worried that i'm so i'll go down to the country of the, of this kind of me thing. i'm you this state environmental protest in order to establish a human, the area located, or the people in effect not going to accomplish in the, in armenia. and right now are given a platform on the wednesday to get to my and green wash, 1300 uses while pretending that they care about the climate. why getting the folk this, this, the kind of me thing. and so by using the environment as a reason they are trying to glean or set human rights abuses, that is one aspect of it. and then of course, the aspect that they are patrick states which is completely dependent, a bike will put you production and exports. for example. they export huge amounts of oil and to israel and therefore come the mental part of the is very warm. she is

one example and they have no plan of taking real trying effects and they are planning to expand both and fuel expansion. but they getting away with it because they are still good at framing it as if they are doing enough. and since the level of awareness about the things that they are actually doing is so low that people don't hold them accountable. speaking of holding people accountable while you're known around the world for environmental activism, in particular, you're also starting human rights defender. this past year, for example, you have protested against israel's genocide in gaza. you were even arrested while demonstrating in copenhagen. your activism on palestine has landed you. it's pretty hot water. people have called you an anti semite. i've heard people call you a jew hater. many, many things have been said about you, what have been the consequences of your activism, particularly your activism on palestine. has it close any doors? ebony space has been made unavailable to you as a consequence?

mm hm. i mean, in the climate crisis we, what i am inclined to just talk to this is not just because i want to train and well, it's an ecosystem. of course that's really, really important. but what it boils down directly to me is that because i care about you and there will be no matter what the cold acumen fucking is, whether it is climbed crisis, whether it is war or preston, genocide, i will fight against those calls that i'm the kind of crisis is built on into it, it is built, the logic behind it is that we are replacing at each of the as well as current and future generation for the possibility of you to keep making unimaginable amounts of profit. and to continue exploiting china and people. and so if we, if we of time effective it or not able to state because again,

the color is more than on is ation and oppression and killing of people today. and then i don't think we should be able to color so trying to just as we cannot to pick and choose which struggle we have support and that's good. but you know, just some, some struggles are more high stakes than others. some things you'll get a critical, a critical review in a newspaper from your political opponents. some you'll get blasted on social media and in others, you can have, you know, major, major professional academic, even economic consequences for in the case of palestine. what have been the consequences for yeah, yeah. many, i have the, i have no many friends and i have, i've been called on imaginable stuff on things that have been in every possible place. but i was already being that before, you know. but i think if you of an activist or uncomfortable,

i think you're doing something wrong. we aren't here to be people please that we are here to say that, ok, this is myself. i don't believe that there was something about, for example, and when we talked about and put them in when we a thing that is speaking up again is real genocide. which of course, you know, any way is the link to the jewish people who are representing jewish people at if the thing that chris, i think israel and in the side on kind of thing, and i'm facing the day percival, we are extremely, extremely watering down that term and i think it's a very, very similar problem that many are suffering from on an everyday basis. and not only i'll be doing that, but we're also using the buffering for whatever political purpose you find that. and that's absolutely outrage. it

is, again, a question about basic human rights for everyone. for example, when we say trying to justice, we need trying it just it works for everyone. we need justice and freedom and safety for everyone, especially. so most smoking like people like kind of spinning right now, the best policy really showed the true color of the world every day. we keep seeing that and it's the, the new place is facebook. so many people that i sold and good people and cared about human rights and the policy and the testing, but they are actually not doing that. it's been yeah. let's turn in a different direction. i'd like to turn to the united states for a minute. donald trump has been elected for a 2nd term as us president, and you've exchanged some words with trump uh on twitter in the past. you've traded

jabs and speeches. it's been pretty intense at times. trumps environmental record was dismal during his 1st term, which is probably why you were so committed to speaking against him. he's not a believer in climate change. he's even called it a hoax. he said he was going to pull out of the parish agreement again, and he's pledge to increase fossil fuel production and quote, drill, drill, drill. his pick for energy. secretary also denies that there is a climate crisis. so what do you think trump coming back into the presidential office is going to mean with the environment and for the fight to protect it? i mean, you don't have to push it again. you do see that another trump presidency right now will be nothing less than a catastrophe. and it's going to be difficult to talk about this subject without using word. i should not be using both of them and it is very, very obvious that our current system are not working in the majority favor. and as

it is now, when they kind of movement or be put in the silence and the more nice and repressed people will most likely continue to be doing to provide for the populace of and part of them. and that is an extremely scary development that we a see all of the well, i'm not the least now in, in the us. but of course we'll have to remember that as an example, like we've been talking about telephones, identify the problem. fine. and it's happening under the vitamin harris ministration with american money and american complexity. and no matter who will be president, as long as nothing fundamentally changing and think it was, they will continue to be an imperative or the capitalist will power. that is going to continue their lead. well, so they're into this kind of catastrophe and a racist and an equal world. and then of course,

trump in the case is extremely, extremely think it. but i mean, we have to we kind of like they have to look into. so there despair and apathy. and they also did we have to look at this thing. yeah. another reason why we are getting organized and feeling the street and with this thing because there is, there is no other option. they just have to radicalize. well, it seems like the transitive. it seems if you are actively resisting, you're certainly not in a state of despair or at least not letting despair stop you from fighting against power. and it's not just donald trump. politicians in germany are calling for you to be banned from the country because of your participation in pro palestine protests. you're hung gary and media watch list because of your activism. you come under fire politicians in india after supporting the former protest there. uh,

why do you think governments find you to be such a sense of threatening figure will obviously have you have you seen me in a dream this afternoon? no, but it's the one when people like that, among the most part, the people in the world are i think they are acting in that way. that means that they do filter and that is a very positive i'm because that means that we're actually making a difference otherwise they wouldn't waste their time doing that and they wouldn't embarrass themselves on the website saying those kinds of things right at 10 birds . thank you. so much for joining us in upfront. thank you. but the this year's top 29 was just the latest example of indigenous active as being sidelined in international forms. leading many to question how indigenous peoples can affect the future of climate action and organize to combat the climate crisis. joining us to discuss this is the code activist nick s this co founder of the pod cast and advocacy group,

the red nation nick. so good to see you welcome to upfront, you've argued that people often reduce the vast history of indigenous resistance in the united states to just being about anti pipeline protests. but there's been a long history of indigenous resistance, rooted in a demand for recognizing the sovereignty of native american nations also returning indigenous homelands. and of course, combating colonialism. oh, what does indigenous activism and resistance look like today? particularly in response of the climate crisis, an extra mark kind of, that's really a great question. there's an assumption that indigenous nations didn't have laws, didn't have customers, didn't have governance prior to the arrival of europeans. so much a bunch of what we see as indigenous resistance or indigenous activism is simply a holding what came before the united states or can before subtler colonial nations

. so for example, we see the inside pipeline struggle or the struggles against fossil fuels in north america. as halting or challenging at least a quarter of carbon issue emissions from both canada and the united states. so when we talked about indigenous resistance today, i don't want to romanticize indigenous nations. we shouldn't think of indigenous peoples as sort of belonging to this kind of touched past where they were one with nature because today many indigenous nations within the united states. the navajo nation, for example, which is heavily invested in the oil and gas industry, as well as being, you know, invested in sort of green technologies. so to say, to talk about sovereignty, there's multiple registers. it's not just the sort of ideal listed sort of. yeah, we're going to go back one with nature. so when we talk about indigenous resistance in this context, you know, there's the global movement of indigenous peoples. if you look at the,

the history of the united nations, which really began in the 1970s. the recognition of indigenous peoples is relatively recent in terms of the international forums. so when we look at something like comp $29.00, we can see sort of a general recalcitrance to include indigenous voices or non state. you know, minority groups. i was gonna say there is a reluctance to include certain groups. i mean, the fossil fuel lobby, for example, is represented by 10 times the number of attendees as indigenous participants. when you think about transitions, out of the se of carbon economy to agree and economy you stated before the populations have that have historically been colonized are going to bear the burden of this transition. uh, tell me about what that means. are there specific examples of like, indigenous communities that are going to have to really be at a cost of that kind of what seems to be necessary shift ultimately to me?

yeah, i think the, it's, it goes without saying it's a necessary shift. but, you know, according to the world bank, it's going to require about like 3000000000 tons of metals and minerals to just copper and with you to make that transition by 2025 before this car is going to be by 2050. so it's going to require mining fresh, copper that doesn't include things like nickel cobalt, you know, all these things that go into something like a test, low battery or the other list. and that goes into that. you know, there's a reason why, like you on most is, is building has a, as the factory is in places like the dresser. because they're trying to mind the lithium. they're trying to use these areas as new. uh, you know, new frontiers for exploitation. and we see this, you know, what the lithium economy expect to the economy that's, you know, putting within the indian region that's targeting indigenous communities there. and

we're not seeing it here in the united states at places like soccer past, where they want to build a massive, you know, open pit lithium i. there's a more fundamental issue here that you've alluded to today, and i've heard you and when we've been places speak to very explicitly and articulately. and that is the course of settler colonialism. if the settler comes to colonizer, they say, you know, the settler, the colonizer comes to stay, and to extract, and to exploit, if they're trying to take over the land, when it's in their best interest to protect the land. it's in their best interest to protect the environment because they're living there now. so why do we see in the conduct of north america such a vicious assaults on the environment? why do we see, for example, a commitment to a carbon economy? ultimately it's going to spell the demise even for the settler. well, that's a really complicated course of i think the 1st part of it is that most of the risks of a climate of climate catastrophe have been sort of outsourced to the rest of the world

around the source to indigenous peoples internally within the subtler colony itself . you have things like, you know, foreigners, america, you have the hardening of borders. you have the hardening of, you know, immigration, that's all in response to climate change, which is directly all you know, in relationship to us of true us interventions in these countries that is causing these massive migration shifts whether it's distinctions or direct or for warfare itself. so when we think about like, well doesn't, you know, we all drink from the same common pot, like why would it make sense for settlers to basically spoiled it well that we all drink, we all drink from, i think right now we're actually experiencing that. we've seen a new meal. liberalism be completely exhausted. we've seen neo conservatives of a be completely exhausted as political alternatives. and does we get the rise of somebody like trump, who is altered, you know, offering some kind of alternative,

which really isn't much of a deviation from the status quote. and we're, we're seeing places like east palestine where there is, you know, that has a major environmental disaster affecting, you know, poor white people, you know, who are descendants of these softwares. and so really what we're gonna, we're gonna see in this moment in time, especially in, in the context of these, you know, the so called the imperial core, or within the settler. courtney itself is the exacerbation of class differences. the, let me ask you a question on a, on a slightly different connected to what you're say. sure. um, when you look back over the last 4 years, do you feel like there was progress in moving from trump to bite? and in binary said before, he was elected president, but nothing fundamentally would change. so in many ways, i don't, i don't really see a fundamental shift. i mean, you just see a shifting rhetoric. you have some of these more explicit about what they're going

to do. and how they feel about especially racialized or indigenous people. and then you have somebody who says, i'm going to do a landing knowledge that while i, you know, while i grant more oil and gas a drilling permits, then the previous administration that's, that's biden's, you know, or that was biden's energy policy. he granted more oil and gas permits on public lands, then trump did within his 1st 2 years of his presidency. so these promises made about being in the 1st climate president don't you know i, you can listen to a person's words, but you should judge them by their actions. and we can talk about the context of minnesota. it's a perfect example in how you have a governor who gives lip service to indigenous sovereignty. and you have a lieutenant governor who is an indigenous woman herself overseas, the construction of a pipeline. that's transported parsons from alberta,

canada. and it was a re route because native people mine asian defeated the keystone excell pipeline in our republican controlled state governments. so think about this sort of contradiction that puts into, you know, that, that puts in your mind when we're told by liberals are better for indigenous people . and, you know, the republicans are going to be worse. the facts don't really play out in terms of how those policies are implemented and how the indigenous movements, the indigenous and movements against these destructive industries and to push for alternatives have played out on the ground conditioning. when you say there isn't a significant difference between democrats and republicans on this issue, because of similar claim has been made by many people regarding israel and palestine. is there a link between kind of how settler colonial projects like the united states or canada, or australia or new zealand operate in terms of the treatment of indigenous populations and those very same nations offering continuous support for israel. the earlier you

started, adjuster, are you, you said it asked me to sort of apologize, the subtler mindset or the colonizer mindset. and i tend, i try not to do that, but i'm going to do that in this case because i feel like there's an immense amount of violence that we're witnessing that's being live streamed in the palm of our hands that are smartphones. and there's a lot of disbelief, i think people who are sympathetic to a posting and, and, you know, free palestine are sort of at a loss of like, how could this happen? and i would just say, look to the history of the united states, the united states has absorbed the genocide of indigenous people in the immense amount of violence that took to the point where most people don't even, you know, we're not, we're speaking english for a reason you know, we're not speaking loc hold on, you were not speaking the indigenous languages of this land. we're not following the indigenous laws of this land. and so when we think about how could we let

something like the genocide and palestine uh, you know, on full the way that it has. all we have to look back on is the, the treatment of indigenous people by the united states. and the genocide that has been covered up and that is not acknowledged. that's one link. the other link is, you know, just the fact that these are 2 subtler colonial nations that both european projects the, the zionist project in palestine. it started off with a british mandate, you know, certain off, and then in a european country, much like the united states. and it, it implemented is sort of stuffed and taking of, you know, the indigenous posted in land of the same way and creating almost almost of a parallel systems of reservations or a bunch of standards as we call them in south africa. or, you know, in the united states, the reservation systems that are sort of controlled. you can think of, you can think of the palestinian authority as sort of

a tribal government where it has to be a moved by the, the occupying power in what it does. so the parallels in that colonial situation are similar. i think the part of it that is more explicit in the context of palestine is the genocide on nature of a subtler colony. and it's exposing, not just what is real, is a and it's fundamental nature. it's actually shit, it's a mirror image of what the united states is and how it treats. not only it's indigenous people, but you know how it's genocide in african people and a transatlantic flight, the slave trade, but also how it's waged. imperial wars, you know, for more than 2 centuries since it's founded and it's, it's a dentist of a state that is a nation say that was one of mentally founded as a capital boss, and in curious, expansion is nation said, make as thank you so much enjoyment upfront, thanks mark. all right, everybody that is our show approach will be back in

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