and this really is of the 15 months of genocide and gaza. prisoners are exchanged for captives, but it's where the sofas stopped. the palestinians were trying to move in concepts . so what lies ahead hope for more problems. this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan, the french island kent cx. 5 deal between israel of thomas finally ball fruits on saturday, 200 pounds as the indian prisoners, some of them held in jail for decades. freed in exchange before is really female soldiers. the lights among palestinians narrowed israel when the 4 young women emerged from 15 months of captivity in gauze, up. they survived as bones dropped by the military colleagues fell all around destroying much of the strip. and as well as genocide, however,

no celebrations with thousands of palestinians show task unblocked by these really ami preventing number to the 2 schools for him off to release 33 captives in the 1st phase, lobsting 6 weeks with as well. think so, do you prisoners? would eat civilian and 15 for them so you know, but israel and him also own ready of choosing each other of breaking cease dining room. the release of an is rarely civilian by him. us meant to be freed, along with full soldiers on saturday, was too late and as well stop displaced palestinian families from returning home in the notes. despite the celebrations on both sides, many people are concerned. the sci fi deals may not be fully implemented. the consumption function see the inside story the

let's bring in a guess from the joint by down a boat to kind of stay and loyal and full, the legal advisor to the palestinian liberated mission organization from tennessee for joined by already gold book, a political commentator, and full of academic, specializing and middle east studies and from london, which went by it's a honda stuff or a senior analyst on palestine of the international crisis group a will welcome to dana. let's start with you where we're at right now in terms of the implementation of the ceasefire agreement is realistic, utah, massive, not honoring it by not releasing, although you who are the civilian and how much does that, as well as violating the terms of the deal by refusing to let thousands of palestinians return to the homes north of the not so even quarter to how dangerous a moment is this for the deal. and can we expect more of this sort of thing? is each stage of the deal plays out? yes, the problem is that from the beginning, although he used his best political hopes, not in the settlers and the populace,

but in the center that is actually protesting against him. i think he thinks that it, who from, from, or about how much the current operation data in the west bank is to do with nothing yahoo has need to put kate the extremist in his government. oh, definitely, definitely. and the fact that we're seeing that there close to $900.00 check points, was very small place. the fact that we see that the, that these really army is invading places like sion in the fact that they are going after and showing palestinians. this is on the one hand while they stop the genocide in, in the gaza strip after reaching agreement. they're now taking it out on the west bank. and this is again, it shows the fact that it less is real. a stock is going to continue full steam ahead. the problem is, is that the only way that israel continues to behave is that it has to create this mindset of in security. and this mindset that there is

a that there are people that need to be defeated. the fact that they've seen that the policy is, are emerging from this genocide and are happy with the fact that the prisoners are being released. this is something that the extreme right wing is pushing and saying that they must crush and so hands they turn their sides to the west bank and are, are doing in, in the west bank precisely. but on a smaller scale, what they did in the gaza strip for you, i saw, you know, to get agreement the at least some of what the on i had to say. yes i, i think i agree with that again as to say, but i would like to add the risk between the right wing, the settlers and the greater majority of the jewish population, as well as growing. there are even voices within uh the sutler camp were saying we need it has always stressed that commitment to free those prisoners. so i can, we also have to consider that many of those prisoners that have been reduced and the offset to be released are held without trial. and those that do end up going to

trial. these trials are held in a way that do not even meet the minimum standards of international. what would be considered to be an internationally for the fest on the trial? so it's not about whether the hell is here or is this about the injustice that this really ultimately represents what the prisoner issue represents. human rights group that's allowed as documented, thousands of cases of systemic abuse and that widespread torture and is really jails and says that at least 60 palestinian prisoners of have died in detention since october 7th, 2023. and what it says, giles, would it become torch attempts such as the scale of abuse that that's what it says, but it must now be considered state policy. is it, i mean, it absolutely is. i don't think there's any denying that there is a systematic policy in terms of the way that israel conducted sweeping master risk campaigns. even now during this hostage,

a prisoner street history exchange deal wasting. israel released as many prisoners that as, as it is arresting in the west bank and in the same contracts, the causative are released is through this mass. this, this mass ways that the ends up happening. either through the signing of an agreement or through these types of these fires. here's the problem, is that unless that system gets broken, unless israel sent a message, but this is wrong, unfortunately, this is good. we're going to see this happen again and again. or it go back to the scenes of jubilation and run out of how, how those being viewed in israel and the release of the full is where the soldiers was accompanied by a shop, considerable forced by all strength by it, by how much, what impact is, is that have that in israel and on that and you know, who do you think of the oh is early assigned it in fury and in fact is early prison authorities did their best to try and prevent any images of palestinian

celebrations reaching us or the eyes resorting to ludicrous means like darkening bus windows and uh someone. uh, but uh the ceremony the hand to go to a ceremony that took place 2000 square and gaza. a really infuriated israelis, uh, they use it as a platform to constantly discuss and will not discuss the constantly repeat and drive home a point that seems self evident in his early years, which is that his all enjoys such a vast moral superiority in comparison to home us that it's almost, you know, unbelievable that from us allows itself to conduct its ceremonies to this is psychological terrorism. this is again and again. and again, an indication of what animals they are in house view and then the entire palestinian struggle as reflected by from us is. and then in that context,

i'd like to to add to it. uh janice said that the really for saying the fact is early attitude as far as i can understand it from my vantage point here inside is not so much the the, the, the actual hatred or the desire for guests or a bloodless uh with regard to the palestinians really horrible thing is the flippant indifference, is this notion that palestinians or something not there. and therefore anything that happens to them is completely irrelevant beside the point not meant to affect the state of affairs as they are in the field. i think that's the best way to describe the general state of affairs as far as the majority of choices or at least society is concerned. sure, there are those who would like to kill as many palestinians as possible, but ask your average non religious is early, who defines him or herself as a centrist, if they want to kill cost. and here's the answer. and you know,

it was an adamant negative, of course we don't, we have no choice that you know, what are you going to do? that's the really is from the land that is right adjacent to gaza. and so how about that as a, as there's some sort of deal, instead of kind of trying to come up with a different space in place where they can go to egypt or whatever. it's this idea that the house teens are somehow ponds and that we are people who are just going to be the recipients of any type of harm or damage or suppose just to play accepted. but there's something else to say as well, which is that this is what the by did ministration had also been talking about very early on. very early on there was a, there were some papers that were coming out from the white house talking about allocating funds to egypt and elsewhere in order to as they put it, relocate pulse demands. and at the time when palestinians were saying that this is a split concept, because that's what it is. everybody came out and said, no,

this is, you know, you're, you're somehow and this is some sort of fantasy of yours. but it's clear that what it is that israel wants israel wants to get rid of health shipments, and they want pulse demand land. and the question is whether the world is going to stand up to trump, or whether this is just gonna have to be destroyed, cause i make it completely uninhabitable. it's very unlikely that it's going to allow for the resettlement and reconstruction of the strip any time soon. we're seeing that in, in, in the prevention of, of movement of people from the south to the north. dis idea of that, you know, israel construct quotes or people from moving back to the.