trump administration is trying to do with this shock and awe. campaign may be working, john henry and al jazeera chicago exit polls in better. russo show, alexander lucas sang cove is on track for 7th time as president and the 88 percent of the vote. it's the 1st election since 2021. the claims of both. we can trigger the must protest and the finance police crackdown. we all position e u. m a u. s. have described the election as a shop, but it's with reports from the capital mintz to alexander lucretia, and co already knows what the result of the russian presidential election will be. 5 more years in power for this form, a soviet phone boss, who's already been in charge for 30, had a lengthy press conference after voting, accomplish it. lucas shouldn't go cold. butler was a brutal democracy and dismissed the protests of 2020. the almost toppled him. just got 5 years ago, we saw that we had a certain number of crazy and you know,

it's not the majority that always trends the country upside down, but a wild minority less. but today it's over a dollar which is different and they have been metaphorically vaccinated for sure because they know where to go and they understand some interest. yes, you have parasites and those who don't want support. but they are a terrible minority nutrition coast security policies, crushed the months and protests in the summer of 2020 tens of thousands of people arrested opposition leaders. why the jail for exxon today, the only protest possible is outside the country in the polish capital. so hundreds, much with spent lot of this kind of sky it with the us and you believe was the actual when i have elections in 2020. what is happening now, and bella, ruth, is a foss. this is not an election but a special electoral operation to keep lucas string cohen power before all the candidates on the bottom of the issue. i have not mounted any serious challenge. so even supporting the incumbent nutrition co once calculate balance relations between

the you and russian. but since 2020, these become more politically and economically reliant on moscow. the biggest challenge i had for alexander lucca jenco could be what happens to better ruth, if there's an end to the war between russia and ukraine kindly sanctioned by your up the president might seek to benefit from any peace dividend. the framing of some $200.00 political prisoners might be the start of an attempt to try to improve relations with the west. so let's miss, i'll just bear with mintz. that's it for me. carrie johnston. you can find more news and features on our website just had to, i'll just say with dot com 10. you said, oh no, it's here off the upfront statements, the to global movements one science based the other ground ancient wisdom love for us

to care. when we have this insight, we start to see things very differently, both seeking harmony with the planet by re aligned to human values precious. not so much of what needs to be done, but why on for doing it now is the time we cannot wait anymore. we have to do something about changing the system from woodson or thrice. we are nature on a jersey, a across the globe. indigenous peoples are grappling with the devastating impact of a rapidly escalating climate crisis if they remain sidelined in environmental decision making. how can meaningful change happen and those were most affected, aren't even part of the discussion. that conversation coming up. the 1st, as was wildfires and other natural disasters, fueled by the climate crisis, continue to read habits across the planet, environmentalist art denouncing the inaction of world leaders. what's behind the failure to address with fights as appalling in x,

a central threats to our way of life on earth. and with donald trump returning the power in washington, things about to get even worse. earlier, i asked those very questions. this week's headliner, environmental activists, better touched by the better than the thank you so much for joining us when upfront. thank you for having a claimant conferences have in theory, been a space where environmental is then active. this then governments come together and they discuss pressing environmental issues, things like global warming, pollution fossil fuels, the impact of the climate on the world, important stuff. uh, what are they working in your view? do you think that there been any material games that have come from climate conferences? i mean, of course one could argue that there have been so much know when from them. but i think also we need to zoom out the phase where here 2024 at the kind of presence

rapidly escalating last year that will at expand at old time. finally got permission and we have about 6 hope you're every quarter and the thursday or to base the 1.5 to the target. we are obviously doing something wrong. it will that these trying to conference if needing through our increase emission and marty whole thing on paper. i think as, as it is right now, you find it comforting to talk to little time and time again to be a place for people in power and those most responsible for the time to come together and we watch them. so, um this here, it's called the $1773.00 talk you will be present, which is more than the top 10 most vulnerable countries. and then again combined. and so i think we'll just stop pretending that under these circumstances, these kind of conferences would lead to any real time of action. i want to drill down on that more when you say green washing in this context,

what exactly doesn't mean for those who aren't familiar, like what kind of violations, what kind of failures, what, what exactly is happening here? yeah. yeah. so let's take this is called as a, as a textbook example of green washing and for that. so i'll go down to the country of the, of this kind of me thing. um you said environmental protest in order to establish a human area located or the people in effect like on a car wash in the you know, i mean yeah. and right now, or given a platform on the road today to get to my angry wash, 1300 uses while pretending that they care about the climate. why getting the folk, the, this, the kind of me thing. and so by using the environment as a reason they are trying to glean or set human rights abuses, that is one aspect of it. and then of course the aspect that they are patrick

states which is completely dependent, a bicycle for to production and exports. for example, they export huge amounts of oil and to israel and that was coming in for part of the is very warm. she is one example and they have no plan of pay. we'll try to fax and they are planning to expand both with you and expansion. but they getting away with it because they are still good at framing it as if they are doing enough. and since the level of awareness about the things that they are actually doing is so low that people don't hold them accountable. speaking of holding people accountable while you're known around the world for environmental activism, in particular, you're also starting human rights defender this past year. for example, you have protested against israel genocide in gaza. you were even arrested while demonstrating in copenhagen. your activism on palestine has landed you, it's pretty hot water. people have called you an anti semite. i've heard people call you a jew hater. many, many things have been said about you. what have been the consequences of your

activism, particularly your activism on palestine. has it closed any doors, ebony space has been made unavailable to you as a consequence? i mean, in the climate crisis. we what i am a trying to just get back to this is not just because i want to train and well, it's an ecosystem. of course that's really, really important. but what it boils down directly to me is that because i care about you and there will be no matter what the cold acumen fucking is, whether it is climbed crisis, whether it is war or preston, genocide, i will fight against those goals that i'm the kind of crisis is built on into it. it is built the logic behind it is the effect of placing at each of the as well as current and future generation. for the possibility of you to keep making unimaginable amount of profit. and the continued exploit thing,

trying to and people. and so if we, if we of columbus activist or not able to state. because again, the color is more than on his ation and oppression and killing of people today. and then i don't think we should be able to color so trying to just as we cannot to pick and choose which struggle we have support and that's get the, you know, some, some struggles are more high stakes than others. some things you'll get a critical, a critical review in a newspaper from your political opponents. some you'll get blasted on social media and in others, you can have, you know, major, major professional academic, even economic consequences for in the case of palestine. what have been the consequences for yeah, yeah. many, i have the, i have no many friends and i have, i've been called on the imaginable stuff on being could have been in every possible

place. but i was already being that before, you know. but i think if you of an activist or uncomfortable, i think you're doing something wrong. we aren't here to be people please that we are here to say that, ok, this is myself. i don't want you to do something about for example. and when we talk about and post them, it isn't when we a thing that is speaking up again is real genocide, which of course, you know, any way is the link to the jewish people who are representing jewish people at. if the thing that chris, i think israel and it's in the side on kind of thing, and i'm facing the day percival, we are extremely tiny watering down that term. and i think i tend to take them. it's a very, very see what's the problem that many are suffering from on an everyday basis. and not only i'll be doing that, but we're also using the box spring for whatever difficult

perfect, if you find that. and that's absolutely outrage. it is, again, a question about basic human rights for everyone. for example, when we say climate justice, we need trying to adjust the works for everyone. we need justice and freedom and safety for everyone, especially. so most smoking like people like kind of spinning right now. the best cause we really showed the true color of the world every day. we keep seeing that and it's the the new place is facebook. so many people that i sold as good people and cared about human rights and the policy and the testing. but they are actually not doing that. it's been yeah. let's turn in a different direction. i'd like to turn to the united states for a minute. donald trump has been elected for

a 2nd term as us president, and you've exchanged some words with trump. uh, on twitter in the past, you've traded jabs and speeches. it's been pretty intense at times. trumps environmental record was dismal during his 1st term, which is probably why you were so committed to speaking against him. he's not a believer in climate change. he's even called it a hoax. he said he was going to pull out of the parish agreement again. and he's pledge to increase fossil fuel production and quote, drill, drill, drill. his pick for energy. secretary also denies that there is a climate crisis. so what do you think trump coming back into the presidential office is going to mean with the environment and for the fight to protect it? i mean, you don't have to push it again to see that another trump presidency right now will be nothing less than a catastrophe. and it's going to be difficult to talk about this subject

without using word. i should not be you, but i and it is very, very obvious that our current system are not working in the majority favor. and as it is now, when they kind of movement or be put in the silence and the more nice and repressed people will most likely continue to be doing to provide for the populace of and part of them. and that is an extremely scary development that we a see all over the world locally, so in, in the us. but of course we'll have to remember that as an example, lucky to talking about telephones, identify the problem fine. and it's happening under the vitamin harris ministration with american money and american complexity. and no matter who will be president, as long as nothing fundamentally changing and think it was, they will continue to be an imperative type of capitalist will power. that is

going to continue their lead. well, so they're into this kind of catastrophe and a racist and an equal world. but of course, trump, in the case is extremely, extremely, thanks for it. but i mean, we have to, we kind of like they have to look into. so there despair and apathy. and they also did we have to look at this thing yet. another reason why we are getting organized and feeling the street and with this thing. because there is, there is no other option b, this have to radicalize. well, it seems like the transitive. it seems as if you are actively resisting, you're certainly not in a state of despair or at least not letting despair stop you from fighting against power. and it's not just donald trump, politicians in germany are calling for you to be banned from the country because of

your participation in pro palestine protests. you're hung, gary and media watch list because of your activism. you come under fire politicians in india. after supporting the former protest there, uh, why do you think governments find you to be such a sense of threatening figure will obviously have you have you seen me in a dream this afternoon? no, but it's the one. when people like that among the purple people in the world are i think they are acting in that way. that means that they do filter, and that is a very potent to find because that means that we're actually making a difference. otherwise they wouldn't waste their time doing that and they wouldn't embarrass themselves on the website saying those kinds of things. right. and birds . thank you so much for joining us in upfront. thank you. but the, this year's top 29 was just the latest example of indigenous active as being sidelined in international forms. leading many to question how indigenous peoples

can affect the future of climate action and organize to combat the climate crisis. joining us to discuss this is the code activist nick as this co founder of the pod cast and advocacy group, the red nation nick. so good to see you welcome to upfront. you've argued that people often reduce the vast history of indigenous resistance in the united states to just being about anti pipeline protests. but there's been a long history of indigenous resistance rooted in a demand for recognizing the sovereignty of native american nations. also returning indigenous homelands and of course, combating colonialism. oh, what does indigenous activism and resistance look like today? particularly in response of the climate crisis. the extra mark kind of, that's really a great question. there's an assumption that indigenous nations didn't have laws, didn't have customers, didn't have governance prior to the arrival of europeans. so much a bunch of what we see as indigenous resistance or indigenous activism is simply

a holding what came before the united states or can before subtler colonial nations . so for example, we see the inside pipeline struggle or the struggles against fossil fuels in north america. as halting or challenging at least a quarter of carbon issue emissions from both canada and the united states. so when we talked about indigenous resistance today, i don't want to romanticize indigenous nations. we shouldn't think of indigenous peoples as sort of belonging to this kind of touched past where they were one with nature because today many indigenous nations within the united states. the navajo nation, for example, which is heavily invested in the oil and gas industry, as well as being, you know, invested in sort of green technologies. so to say, to talk about sovereignty, there's multiple registers. it's not just the sort of ideal listed sort of. yeah,

we're going to go back one with nature. so when we talk about indigenous resistance in this context, you know, there's the global movement of indigenous peoples. if you look at the, the history of the united nations, which really began in the 1970s. the recognition of indigenous peoples is relatively recent in terms of the international forums. so when we look at something like comp $29.00, we can see sort of a general recalcitrance to include indigenous voices or non state. you know, minority groups. i was going to say there isn't a reluctance to include certain groups. i mean, the fossil fuel lobby, for example, is represented by 10 times the number of attendees as indigenous participants. when you think about transitions, out of the se of carbon economy to agree and economy you stated before the populations have that have historically been colonized are going to bear the burden

of this transition. uh, tell me about what that means. are there specific examples of like, indigenous communities that are going to have to really be at a cost of that kind of what seems to be necessary shift ultimately to me? yeah, i think the, it's, it goes without saying it's a necessary shift. but, you know, according to the world bank, it's going to require about like 3000000000 tons of metals and minerals to just copper and lithium. uh, to make that transition by 2025 before this car is going to be by 2050. so it's going to require mining fresh, copper that doesn't include things like nickel cobalt, you know, all these things that go into something like a test, low battery or the other list. and that goes into that. you know, there's a reason why, like, you on most is, is building has a, has the factories in places like the dresser because they're trying to mind the lithium. they're trying to use these areas as new. uh, you know, new frontiers for exploitation. and we see this, you know,

what the lithium economy expect to the economy that's, you know, putting within the indian region that's targeting indigenous communities there. and we're not seeing it here in the united states at places like soccer past, where they want to build a massive, you know, open pit lithium i. there's a more fundamental issue here that you've alluded to today, and i've heard you and when we've been places speak to very explicitly and articulately. and that is the course of settler colonialism. if the settler comes to colonizer, they say, you know, the settler, the colonizer comes to stay, and to extract, and to exploit, if they're trying to take over the land, when it's in their best interest to protect the land. it's in their best interest to protect the environment because they're living there now. so why do we seeing the kinds of north america such a vicious assaults on the environment? why do we see, for example, a commitment to a carbon economy? ultimately it's going to spell the demise even for the settler. well, that's

a really complicated course of i think the 1st part of it is that most of the risks of a climate of climate catastrophe have been sort of outsourced to the rest of the world around the source to indigenous peoples internally within the subtler colony itself . you have things like, you know, foreigners, america, you have the hardening of borders. you have the hardening of, you know, immigration, that's all in response to climate change, which is directly all you know, in relationship to us. i'm curious, interventions in these countries that is causing these massive migration shifts whether it's distinctions or direct or for warfare itself. so when we think about like, well doesn't, you know, we all drink from the same common pot, like why would it make sense? for settlers to basically spoiled it well that we all drink, we all drink from. i think right now we're actually experiencing that. we've seen a new meal. liberalism be completely exhausted. we've seen neo conservatives of

a be completely exhausted as political alternatives. and thus we get the rise of somebody like trump who is altered, you know, offering some kind of alternative, which really isn't much of a deviation from the status quote. and we're, we're seeing places like east palestine where there is, you know, that has a major environmental disaster affecting, you know, poor white people, you know, who are descendants of these softwares. and so really what we're gonna, we're gonna see in this moment in time, especially in, in the context of these, you know, the so called the imperial core, or within the settler. courtney itself is the exacerbation of class differences. the, let me ask you a question on a, on a slightly different note connected to what you're say. sure. um, when you look back over the last 4 years, do you feel like there was progress in moving from trump to bite? and in binary said before, he was elected president,

but nothing fundamentally would change. so in many ways, i don't, i don't really see a fundamental shift. i mean, you just see a shifting rhetoric. you have somebody is more explicit about what they're going to do and how they feel about especially racialized or indigenous people. and then you have somebody who says, i'm going to do a landing knowledge that while i, you know, while i grant more oil and gas a drilling permits, then the previous administration that's, that's biden's, you know, or that was biden's energy policy. he granted more oil and gas permits on public lands, then trump did within his 1st 2 years of his presidency. so these promises made about being in the 1st climate president don't you know i, you can listen to a person's words, but you should judge them by their actions. and we can talk about the context of minnesota. it's a perfect example in how you have a governor who gives lip service to indigenous sovereignty. and you have

a lieutenant governor who is an indigenous woman herself, over see the construction of a pipeline. that's transported parsons from alberta, canada. and it was a re route because native people mine asian defeated the keystone excell pipeline in our republican controlled state governments. so think about this sort of contradiction that puts into, you know, that, that puts in your mind when we're told by liberals are better for indigenous people . and, you know, the republicans are going to be worse. the facts don't really play out in terms of how those policies are implemented and how the indigenous movements, the indigenous and movements against these destructive industries and to push for alternatives have played out on the ground conditioning. when you say there isn't a significant difference between democrats and republicans on this issue, because of similar claim has been made by many people regarding israel and palestine. is there a link between kind of house settler colonial projects like united states or canada,

or australia, or new zealand operate in terms of the treatment of indigenous populations and those very same nations offering continuous support for israel. the earlier you started, adjuster, are you, you said it asked me to sort of apologize, the subtler mindset or the colonizer mindset. and i tend, i try not to do that, but i'm going to do that in this case because i feel like there's an immense amount of violence that we're witnessing that's being live streamed in the palm of our hands that are smartphones. and there's a lot of disbelief, i think people who are sympathetic to a posting and, and, you know, free palestine are sort of at a loss of like, how could this happen? and i would just say, look to the history of the united states, the united states has absorbed the genocide of indigenous people in the immense amount of violence that took to the point where most people don't even, you know, we're not, we're speaking english for a reason you know,

we're not speaking loc hold on, you were not speaking the indigenous languages of this land. we're not following the indigenous laws of this land. and so when we think about how could we let something like the genocide and palestine uh, you know, on full the way the highest. all we have to look back on is the, the treatment of indigenous people by the united states. and the genocide that has been covered up and that is not acknowledged. that's one link. the other way is, you know, just the fact that these are 2 subtler colonial nations that both european projects the, the zionist project in palestine. it started off with a british mandate, you know, certain off, and then in a european country, much like the united states. and it, it implemented is sort of stuffed and taking of, you know, the indigenous posted in land of the same way and creating almost almost of a parallel systems of reservations or

a bunch of standards as we call them in south africa. or, you know, in the united states, the reservation systems that are sort of controlled. you can think of, you can think of the palestinian authority as sort of a tribal government where it has to be a moved by the, the occupying power in what it does. so the parallels in that colonial situation are similar. i think the part of it that is more explicit in the context of palestine is the genocide on nature of a subtler colony. and it's exposing, not just what is real, is a and it's fundamental nature. it's actually shit, it's a mirror image of what the united states is and how it treats. not only it's indigenous people, but you know how it's genocide in african people and a transatlantic flight, the slave trade, but also how it's waged. imperial wars, you know, for more than 2 centuries, since it's founded, it gets a dentist of a state that is a nation save that was one of mentally founded as a capital boss,

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