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happened at aust, rationing him, is that not happy about the sci fi deal continuing to didn't trust and the sci fi deal itself, but it will threaten the co edition if we see the best of those smart trips to step out because he wanted to see the types of destruction of come off and the school, so either punch or situation because we're seeing face my protest taking place to say get this deal done. so of course, he will want to show that this is a victory that we are now seeing these 2 factors released this week and back now be reflected in the media as well. okay, thank you so much for all of that. laura fascinating how everything is unfolding. lower con for us, bit in a month. thanks for joining us now is lucy and as a kara, thank you very much for being uh with us once again. uh, goals, politics, professor at capital university. with thing watching these remarkable scenes, the, these pictures coming out of guides are, as people stream the north by the 10s of thousands. it's hard to put a number on it. what do you make of what we're seeing right now?
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how significant is today in terms of what has happened over the last 15 months as well as what is to come? well, it is very significant for the 1st time we are come into the something of these and bringing us hope things can become normal as when the problem is what normally we are talking about. we have to remember that these people are coming back to a place i've left on their face for many weeks, disabling it before to the store and there were no supplies to arrive into the place. so now 1st we need to make sure, or they need to make sure that their supplies are arriving. the human is entering in the face of the they are needed. and also we have to be mind the difficult fraction of everything in go. so we'd start only in the 3rd phase, we need to reach the 3rd phase. everything can happen in the coming months before this happened. so how would these people are going to have a normal life to say something my life from now until the reconstruction starts? little bit because we didn't hear how is going to be done, who is going to do it,
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and we're going to pay for that. we all know that's only everything that can happen in, in, in augusta needs to be approved by the 24th, which is the 5th. yeah. which is on. you're gonna see that entire process down. do you think that would potentially looking at this is going to create even more issues. because as we've been hearing from our correspondence this or listening to people in the north, when they get the noise sheltered, no voice and no food, it's in the middle of winter. so everyone's extremely cold fits. this is actually with tens of thousands of people making their way north. this is actually going to cause more problems in the short simmons at least well, it will, i mean, but we have to remind him of this 15 months of the time of the over i said, people to move from one place with the other around 19 times mm hm. so they have been on the move since the very beginning of the war. the only been what they they, they could north south of south north. and they are moving from 10 to one of the
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people is hoping to reach their home to see what remained from that. but those who are up to a home that is pulled into the store that would still need to lead intense and feel, reconstruct for our lease, removing their problems, thoughts to building something. again, how is going to happen if it's rarely to prevent in april and 30 things confident, everything that the end though is preventing construction monthly. the printer is going to take a long, long time here we've seen in the last couple of hours. some us has said that every tune of guns to their homes is a victory against plans for displacement. what do you make of that statement? well, it's small, it's the same. the bank, the same on the other hand, but this is, this is another both. that'd be great for you. so at least cumulative to allow people from the, from coming back to the north of gusta, as you send that with you, the sacrifice or the sort of you have to allow this to happen. the board needs to
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continue. so we see that most of the people saw the friends and coming back to their home is something that the for the school. so it'd be thing because there's something but a heavy cost as well in terms of life and voice. well, of course, it's part of the government. the a was to get the read the most so fund as soon as possible from the north to restore the settlements in the north and to reduce the amount of people physically speaking by even sending them to another companies. this, of course, this is not the us they expect you mentioned before. how do really isn't much of a plan for, for how guns are, is going to be rebuilt, is missing and was told of destruction in the news. what is, do you think that's a deliberate that there isn't a plan at this point in time? or is it just thought to really and found too complicated to have some sort of detail around that? i think both we keep here and since the beginning of the war, what is going to happen the day after by there was requesting that on. yeah. for the last year to to give me a plan, send me
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a problem. what we're going to do after we've spent over the state so far, nothing is decided we, we see that there is also a foundation between the single for the and how mazda of the, from that's one need to buy sale for the north. i'm us through the big street so we don't know who's going to be the one who's going to be cited. who's going to do anything? again, we still, we will see the still, the future forgot. they'd be fine only. but as far as with now any kind of a cost of a in or any kind of our spectrum imposed by the government. the northern that is that if we can just talk a little bit about sell out a new broad vehicles this the, the, the road. so we have vehicles due to be allowed to, to live in to northern garza, that is supposedly meant to be operated that, that shape points there by an independent security force. what do you make of that? that we've got, i guess contract is coming in to, to ensure the safety of everyone there. yeah, i mean, i would love to see, i mean,
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we look to see they've come to us. so in, that's how technically speaking will be done and what, what can happen if something not working on the spectrum and disagree with you. the company is responding to these files, do they have to say to information and to whom they would report if there is a thing that needs to be report that someone wants to enter something or if there is a fight because they don't allow, as many people in the same car, i mean many things i think we don't know and there are no details about how we spend on these. we don't know the way the face we're going to release how is going to be on the on the roof. and again, we need to see in the coming hours how these thought when they open the board, that how they set the across exactly how that access is allowed to happen. thank you so much of luciana, very much. i appreciate your time and insight, as always. thank you. the most all colored is it solved for seed street east by to this place, palestinians, as they return to northern gods. this it has to say full gauze of thousands of all
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as soon as are making their way back from the south to the new. and we are working now among the people who are the beast. so from this stuff in both of these, just for the northern go through and then also i was like, as you did not know jack, i'm in the new and i'm coming back from come eunice, aren't you? and he was very difficult, very tiny. so the fall of the see, i mean, i'm here, but we've been sleeping in the streets for 3 days without food covers. all reason, bathrooms, horse is ever before pop up the water since i've been. and i mean that we've been waiting for these radio occupation forces to allow us to cross. they fight on women and children, but we held our ground as we were adamant to attend to the know those people. it's been more than 3 days way. things that are tied to the whole is the land there.
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where for us to leave behind the people the some little a j was little gordon. awesome. we have been sleeping on the road for days. as soon as these radio condition forces pulled out, we started to head back to the north. i am on cloud 9. i am very happy. so this is not only a physical, this is a lot of the symbolic one because these vehicles are reclaiming the layers. the history of this, the future, and this, the remarks, these a low johnny full, rebuilding the lives of the communities. why the fluids? i just need a little more. let's do the sweet spot assign. so i don't think us joins us now. he is a form is really invested in consul general in new york. he joins us from televi. thank you very much for being with us here. what is turning out to be an incredible
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ty in god. so can you just 1st of all, give us your thoughts as we're seeing these pictures of tens of thousands of people making their way north up to 15 months of war? oh it's, it's a very good thing time because it does 2 things. it allows people to, um, you know, to restore just a little bit of normal see or predictability to their life and go back to, to what was their home. but on the other hand, uh guides uh is so devastated uh to the point that these people will realize, the median on 1st side after this, this can be reconstructed. this needs to be rebuilt, some bottoms out. and so while they're moving to neighborhoods, they think they know street state things, they know, buildings, houses, they think they know they're not going to find a lot there. and i say this um, you know, uh new to the, you know, in a neutral way. but it is devastating. do you think that this is
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a potential cross system the making because, i mean, just from the pictures that we've, we've seen over the last couple of hours, easily over a 100000 people moving north with like you size, there's nothing there. you can, it's can be and completely destroyed effectively. and very little i medical of facilities authorizing it just basic shelters for them to go through. that. it is basic filters. um and there are still, there are still, i'm sorry, at least 23 months of the worth of the winter ahead of us. so the issue of humanitarian, a fresh water, potable water foods, medical supplies, and some form of a shelter against the uh, the cold in the rain is, is vital. uh, but this brings us to a, uh, perhaps a larger issue time and that is, okay. so what's next? let's assume that's pretty, let's hope that the ceasefire does hold and that there is
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a face to unless israel commits and everyone around commit to a, uh, a different government in guys. even an interim government money needed for that rebuilding of the money to normalize these people's lives. again, it's not going to come in in that money. you know, it could come from saudi arabia, from customer, from the, the enter. it's a western europe who knows where from but in order for that money to arrive, you know, water and medical supplies in food or on the mental, but that they will not last a few weeks. so there needs to be not just a uh, reconstruction, rebuilding plan. there needs to be a political uh framework here that's uh, gradually put into place and unfortunately i don't see one where why we're only slightly over a week into the ceasefire. so we're looking at weeks before this could even be
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discussed. yeah. it'll, it'll comes uh, comes around very quickly. you said that as israel also needs to, to commit to that to, to the rebuilding of kaiser. and do you think that they will at this point in time with the people that are in charge right now? you know, unfortunately not, it's not, there's government now there's prime minister low. we're talking along the lines time of a plan that president and president finding presented as early as december, the 2023, just 2 months after the war had started on the uh after that, how much of the time um, you know, asian inter him and i'm just uh, re rehashing the plan a in an interim air force with a major kind of a senior and authority component in it that would control gaza and supervise the uh, the fumbling of, uh, humanitarian aids for the time being and create some kind of a, a, a, a low in order structure for that to happen. you have to have is really consent.
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you don't need is really involvement, but you certainly need is early consensus. israel said no to this tom in december. it's a note of this ever since. and i do not see this particular government in this particular brian minister saying yes to anything that would strengthen the policy and authority which then in turn would create legitimate and predictable pressure on him, on the government to engage the palestinians in a broader political process. this is exactly what he wants to avoid. this is exactly what he avoided to the better part of last decade alone. thank you. as always for breaking it down for us. i don't think us for us in tel aviv what we get to go back now to honey mike. mood who joins us from over. she'd road just south of and it's a room car 200. can you just give us an update of the scene as it stands there now is people to be making their way north for the past few hours?
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tom, it has been quite overwhelming. just the non stop the laws people this place. people are from the, the southern part of the threat building all off the back or just doing that, the entire center of the area. keep pouring into this area so you can see it from the ram right here. this is the movement that does not stop it has been going on for the. * 3 hours or so, no more between children and women, older late man, old going back to their homes in the know the parts and all the city we. what's interesting, we see in many people are making their way from northern part of the city to the central area and the southern part of the serpent. they are in search for family members and relatives who have been saved for the past 15 months. we've also seen people moving to premier, carrying with them some of the basic and the fact that is including the lower by the cooking oil on some a, a,
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a time and goes above the book in gas with them because they know they're going back to an area that doesn't have any of the necessities that would support their existence and help them survive these conditions. it's move and it's, it's amazing to see the number of people as of yesterday there was a sense of, of despair, a sense of despair, a sense of disappointment, but as possible at night when the news got out, then people were allowed to do it across a fairly at 7 in the morning in the mood, it changed completely. it's interesting to see this a from largely despair and disappointed into now with the white copy and, and feeling the excitement of going back. this is a huge step for palestinians use the forward the who those who have suffered in the past 15 minutes of from the in force displacement. then all of the by products of the genocide and for this place been on the hunger. the 3rd then, the difficult living conditions and above all is the trauma that deliver them. and
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by trauma. here we refer to everyone equally, the elderly, the young ones, the vulnerable to everyone, was a traumatized by the ongoing, by the, the bombing by the genocide, by the can i get not now it's time for them to, to celebrate. today we're seeing the runs different ways of expressing that dominated by a smile dominated by happened is then since so old, really, we're gonna, we're getting more reaction from people about their return to the northern part of the survey of the lot. we all get off your 100 us the lovely. thank you. once you rach and how do you feel? returning back to the woods, bob w and i'm from base how you know, how do you feel? so honestly speaking, these are memorable minutes a mix. i'm agreeing with don't i'm retained at home. i you know,
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my home has been flattened. i am getting pains, the loved ones. i lost but we are attending the whole world. we are holding a stick fast to our home side dollar home land. we are going to rebuild our homes brick by brick wall by road, and we, when the live or the sweet memories we had in the past. then time most is flat and, and to us quote, land. what does the 1st to do? i will decide to move it into debris. i will also already use the same breaks and concrete for all my destroyed homes on the table that the paid enters and that equal to selection process begins. a lot of your house. i believe the coming days are going to be difficult. however, we expect that these words, they have been, will be no more wars and the people will lend us and helping hands to start the big, big process we, we will be able to resume our normal way of live bank,
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our tentative back this good. what's the old the bit thank you. 4 as soon as possible heard the, their reaction is shaped by, by largely the sense of relief and happiness and excitement that for the past 15 months of the month is 15 minutes. this dense people were not able to get to this area at the cross, but it may turn out to 15 months of ongoing misery and suffering are able now to cross even though they're walking within some of the bodies are really ramsey or the difficult ones. they don't do have diseases, those who are al, but they, they have no choice, but to go back to their home. now walking from this area and i have to go to the crowd. here it is bursting into celebration. there is sound of music, sound of, of some of the traditional songs that people grew up with about imaginal zones as well as the, uh, the pay floor activity is that then the deputy that is being performed there and as
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an expression of, of the things of happened in for the past 15 months. uh, palestinians were not be able, were not able to express their feelings there. then what was, you know, more of like got a burst all of these upfront feelings that they had. they were only corners with the, with the agony, with the trauma, with the sense of ongoing fear. now, it's a changing it to more into something more about being happy about being relieved. but again, there's also the uncertainty of the future. people are worried about what's going to happen in the coming days and they are aware they realize they have many challenges ahead of them. but they're hoping for the best. and they said many of the difficulties the deposit through the over came down and hopefully the coming days are going to be much better bring more fees and more as the abilities and more
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a better future for their lives and the lives of their children. honey, thank you so much for talking us through everything the honey mike. mood for us uh on our for she wrote literally a we spoke to tamara oliver fi, who is the spokes woman for on or are they doing agency for palestinian refugees? she said up to 90 percent of homes across scouts that had been destroyed or damaged . most of the people in gaza who have gathered over the last couple of days were talking about tens of thousands of people who have gathered on the sheets 3. so i had been street and beach road or trying to go back home or what is left of home indeed in another, in part of the gaza strip with you. and that that indicates that up to 90 percent of all housing units in does. i'm 90 percent of all housing units has been
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destroyed or damaged. so while i'm watching this with interest at the ocean zeroes showing and listening to how joyful and happy and relieved people are at the anticipation of going back home, the scale and the scope of the destruction is unforeseen. the risks of unexploded devices, particularly for children, are very high, and mostly the access to food or to daily comfort is almost in existence except for sent felipe over the last. now, 8 days of the ceasefire except for the aids that is coming. so you will see that you guys are as part of the ceasefire, and it's worth highlighting the 60 percent of the, the test coming to cause a since the ceasefire started has come in. we've been around the largest un humanitarian agency. we've worked with partner agencies since the beginning of this
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conflict. the way it works is that when you're being the largest humanitarian agency has the largest number of trucks has the warehouses has the shelters that it has managed with at most times, 1000000 people insight them up to 1000000 people. and we mostly have the acceptance by the community in gaza. so we coordinated very closely, especially at times when our own humanitarian assistance, our food and other supplies were bad. we're not coming in. we organize it very closely with other you in the agencies with international law and yours and also with local communities partners. so palestinian groups to make sure that the food that comes in as well distributed, using our list of beneficiaries storing into non warehouses and taking it around with our trust field the through our health centers and health clinics and health teams has not stopped the polio vaccinations that took place late last year was
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really driven by the w h o n junior sir. all explanation, all medical consultations, 16000 medical consultations are done by monroe, which one of us once again is lucy on is a car. uh, thank you very much for being here. uh, if we can just pick up from what we, who they are just the, the, the, i to the issues that are going to be faced by all these tens of thousands of people in the north. what has to happen now in the days ahead to make sure that this doesn't turn into another few minutes. area in crisis has hundreds of thousands of people trying with 10100. but 1st of all, these relatives would allow this man at the end to end. i mean, we have been here and since the beginning of the season, by the time of trucks, it'd be nice to end the button. now i assume that this morning because of the amount of people living in it, in normal process, we need much more a to,
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to enter it or sort to start breaking stock. you know, at least the has the infrastructure of hosp both. but what is more important? i think we know many people are talking about. that is how many doctors, some nurses size along all this time, we're going to deal with that injuries on the people, the needs and medical treatment. and doctors needs to come to, to got set to work. i mean, humor thought, and it's not only about the human human people and the human, this needs to come to help and their mind. and this is something that needs to be done. we could be with the winters here, exec, but you also need the medical facilities to be built for them to actually help people don't you? yeah, it's not going into them. you know we, we had seen the very beginning. there is no more hospital in the middle. yeah. they are working full time. so i mean, it's freaking effect and kind of weight on things that the face is to be thought to now. and many of these areas in which now people need reset the when that is coming, more of this is gonna come up here. we still don't know how is the other,
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the other infrastructure that needs to be in the family. i agree with the water supply the food chain that they need to be protected in order to move around to those people to keep them properly, mainly medicaid. so if all of that is not started now today or tomorrow, we are going to face of a very tough when it doesn't take long for those issues to back up. can we just talk a little bit about the nets are in colorado, which effectively counts the north have gone, says from the south. how big an issue is that going to be going ahead about who exactly operates it because it really is almost another barrier. they're just being put in against palestinians. we don't know yet. i mean, because we keep hearing from part of these fairly government, i'm from people of the outside the government on the left. they're going in the net settings sort of the never should have been evacuated from military forces from you so that people that they keep pushing to keep that as a way to stop set them in there. so anything that was signed in the cease fire that
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is showing that the site was withdrawing from there may not be comply copies of them because we don't know if anybody who needs what needs to be at these are the page one. you know this, we know that specified their that'd be my. so keep that pressure even the war against the auditorium. they're so miss, i'm going to resist the meantime. the input we understand that the private military contract is a providing the security that especially for vehicles that are due to it, into the north. how long can they continue indefinitely? or there's gonna be a plan for a permanent force there. well, again, it seems that the size of the site they have given to comply with what this mentioning that these far and how they're going to comply with the minds from the people. part of the story behind part of the government on the 1st is that they are still pushing for more price or so these way maybe a set intermediate way to,
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to deal with that to avoid the presence of a fairly for society muscle. now late the, the started, we need to do something east. they want to keep a strong hold on or on the other. yeah. interesting to see how all of this is going to play. i like you say, not just the in, in the days and weeks and months ahead. thank you so much, lucy. and as a kyra goals, politics professor at casa university, really appreciate your input into uh, the last few hours. thank you as well. i'm just gonna leave you with some of these remarkable pictures that we have been taking in over the last few hours as tens of thousands of people continue to make their way for the 1st time in months, back to the north of the gaza. but it's a little after this news hour, but i will be back in to just a couple of moments with much more of the dice and use the
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