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80th anniversary, a delivery sion of outfit raising questions about balancing legal obligations with historical and diplomatic priorities. post president andre due to addresses these challenges and more as he talks to l g 0, the present to, to thank you so much for talking to out here today here in clusters on the edge of tablets and the world economic forum. that's a pleasure to meet you. we just started out that one of the biggest changes in global topography of politics was the election of donald trump in the united states . and you have a very deep commitment to nato at this moment. president, trump is a bit more skeptical of nato and its role in the world. but we also know that you have a good relationship with the president. how are you going to talk to him about nato? how do you see that divide with president trump? so do you notice, but of the said this, have you done scroll status. good morning, and 1st of all, welcome to cost is the absence of each test. dogs. uh yes indeed,

president donald trump's victory in the us selections was a world class event. i do not doubt that if you look at the united states as position and world politics and security, you will see that it is the biggest superpower in terms of its economy and military . from that perspective, this change, it's such a level is going to be a big change for the whole world. and what i expect to see is a very decisive, but also a very pragmatic policy. same thing, 1st and foremost on the interests of the united states. and that does not mean that this is going to be a bad time for the free will. and for those who wish to cooperate in the sphere of the economy, it's going to be quite the contrary. i would say it's going to be a time of economic competition and competition in which the united states wants to participate. so it's going to be tough, but fair. as far as security and nature related issues are concerned,

i have to say that i absolutely do not agree with the notion that president trump is skeptical regarding nato or the us presence in nato. and i believe that all those statements we can see and hear, made by the media and different commentators result from the lack of knowledge about the specificity of present in terms of policy and perhaps a misunderstanding of his approach towards nature. they don't understand this approach. they do not want to understand this, but i did not post this month in your phone cause there was a much president trump had been very proud of securing a broad commitment of many nato members to 2 percent of defense spending of their g d, p. you wrote a washington post op ed in which you said that number ought to be 3 percent. my understanding you saw president trump shortly after that. and now president trump is talking about a 3 percent target for nato member nations in their contributions to comment

security. we use a source of the 3 percent target that donald trump is not talking about that populated in march 2024, i was in washington and met with president joe biden on that occasion. i proposed adopting as a rule within the alliance that defense spending should not be lower than 3 percent of an individual countries g d p. and they was a very simple reason for that. i believe today, we're looking at russia's aggression against ukraine. so what we are seeing right now is the reverse of russia's imperialism. russian imperialism is reborn. and we can see that in this one ukraine, which has been going on for almost 3 years right now. russian imperialism is greedy, and it is extremely dangerous. and for that reason, we need to build a securities on the last time we had such as i don't know, security was during the cold war at that time. poland was behind the iron could

pull in was part of the russian sphere of influence. and today, in the face of this re boned russian imperialism. what the free world has to do is once again recreate this securities on, to protect itself against russia, integration. because as i said, we have seen the research and russian imperialism. what is the name we give to it? it is the same. it's russian imperialism. whether we are speaking about the times of dissolves service, imperialism, uprooting is imperialism. it is still the same thing, the same notion. so we need to protect the world from russia's renewed tons to launch a new attack against the free world. the way to do this is to raise defense spending to at least 3 percent of gdp, ensuring it's modernization, development and security. i made that proposal to raise defense spending when i talked to president joe biden in the white house in march 2024. then i discussed it with the media and repeated that same notion when i met with president donald trump

at trump tower. at the time we had a very nice, very long and very interesting conversation. and indeed, i propose that defense spending be raised to 3 percent of g d p. i guess it's, i guess it's very stiff thinking is up on the line. so you've been on the front line, mr. president of concerned about russian aggression, the invasion of ukraine. what to do about it and marshalling forces to be there, it's getting a deal between russia and ukraine is very high. priority for president trump. i've spoken to general keith catalog kellogg, who is going to be president trump to envoy. and there's a general kellogg says he needs a 100 days to get this done. uh, what are your hopes and your concerns about a piece deal at this point or a ceasefire deal with russia? what would be a green light that might incentivize russia to continue with regression from your point of view? hope you had a stop exit to say about as a providers. now, this is

a very serious issue ending the war and ukraine is not simple. it is very complex, that is also what i understand from aka rubio statement, saying that this is a serious matter. and that the approach has to be serious and com. c o, and i think we're going to witness in the weeks and months to come. donald trump and these collaborators his team and his experts discuss it and work out such a peaceful approach. it is also my conviction that it's going to happen this way. different rhetoric is used during a presidential campaign. all the candidates and presidents running for office knows things are key to then. it is different when it comes to the execution and implementation of things. they look quite different. i have no doubt whatsoever that president donald trump is serious about this topic. and that he's going to face up to the challenge of bringing the war and ukraine to an end. and i'm sure that he's going to do everything. and he's paula,

to end russia's aggression for the security of the free will. but also for ukraine . what is most important, and i'm sure that president donald trump has a perfect understanding of that due to his strategic thinking and knowledge of the world. and also due to his understanding of the specificity of our region, is that russia must northwind as well. that goes on. yeah, i don't see, i knew most of it graduating in ok. or is there any formulation, mr. president, of an arrangement where you would countenance the deployment of polish troops inside ukraine as part of a stabilization agreement. and whether or not you would accept that, are there other steps, bilateral steps that poland might see is positive in terms of creating a stabilization. i'll also do show you spic lot cx to the ocean guy on today. we'll just speculating because we could create thousands of scenarios

about applying forces and speculate about what kind of forces should be deployed within the should be nato, or you in forces and which country should send such forces. but today we are speaking pure speculation in this matter should be discussed and left to the experts to decide. but i believe president trump will demonstrate to very pragmatic and tear approach to that. we must remember that we are not just speaking about military grounds, but also about powerful and strong economic grounds. i believe prison and donald trump understands this and probably knows it better than anybody else. i believe that president trump can make life very difficult for vladimir putin if he wants to be can resort to different economic and political means to adopt this particular approach. i think he can even bring him to despair, surely by resorting to economic and political means without military means. it is not only a mattress, miss sauls, well,

how many and what kind of missiles the us will send to you kind? and it is not a matter of money. how much money of us will give to ukraine will. how much money will be put on the table of the elements or at stake, such as the possibility of the us existing political influence globally. it is also a matter of the strength of the us economy. it is also a matter of the united states using different results is in global trade. so they are lots of other elements. and i do believe that president from knows them well and knows how to do that better than anyone else. as i said before, that is why i'm commonly waiting for president donald trump's 1st steps and decisions. i have no doubt that this is what we will have to expect in the near future. reversed isn't the legislative service difficult at this point? you much. let me ask you mister president, about the ascension of poland, to the presidency. and you right now, cohabitate government with donald test, a government and i'm just interested in to what degree are you going to pull

together towards a vision of what poland should do with this time in the presidency? and where will you pull a part? see i'm, i'm a lot of the process, the spacing, and my view is very simple regarding the publish presidency in the european union, which we have assumed for the next 6 months. well, all of that is also shaped by the situation in europe and by its relations with the united states. my view is very sub, it has been shaped throughout almost 10 years of my tenure as president. i have cooperated with and had contact with 3 consecutive us presidents and different administrations, both republican and democratic administrations. when i started, when i assumed office as the police president, back in 2015, i call pirated with president brock obama. we made very important decisions during the nato summit and also in 2016 on deploying nato forces to poland and the eastern

flank of the alliance. that was the 1st historic decision made at the time to have a us military presence in poland. then came the presidency of president donald trump, which was a great time for our country and for poland, we signed a lot of military contracts between poland and the united states. we also had excellent energy contracts for ellen, g supplies to pose, and we also had an excellent policy social policy visit the post. the visa waiver program was adopted during donald trump presidency and it played a very important role for publish families, especially those with relatives overseas. then i co operated with president joe biden. this happened also during russia's aggression on ukraine, president by and visited poland twice. so these are very important events, in this sense, the priorities of the published presidency in the european union, all very well set and very firm. they have been shaped by all those events that

i've just mentioned. if you look at the role of the united states and it's important in the euro, atlantic relations in the relations between the united states and europe, which have been so important for more than a 100 years now. since world war one, the priority of the polish presidency in the european union is very cap to forge a closer bond between the european union and the united states, especially in regards to the economy. we encapsulated it in a simple slogan, having more united states in the european union, and more european union in the united states. so not the and that's on. let me ask you a question as a little complex about some of the playbook of stress along borders. and when i think about the e u, and i think some of the other leaders that i've interviewed, they've talked a lot particularly in eastern europe, about the way migration has been weaponized. and how russia and belo reuss and

others are attempting to destabilize governments with migration insertions. poland has shut much of its border down. it is stopped in the right of asylum in this to tell me about this process because i would like our viewers understand because united states to some degree is arguing much the same thing with its southern border. but many human rights people have raised questions about whether this is the right track for poland and whether those that are basically victims in other governments or to have a place to go. so how do you reconcile colin's big flank with beller, bella ruth, was the place where russia invaded ukraine from. so how do you reconcile some of your needs from a security perspective, with values that are democratic values and human rights values said this is games

that email if that goes, it probably is it to me, this is indeed an issue of politics. the political approach to migration and the influx of people from other cultures and nations to europe. business, we are an open country and everybody who wants to come to poland can do that. everyone is looking for a shelter, aid and assistance. everybody from being born persecution can come to poland and find a safe place there. but 1st and foremost, we expect the person to accept our rules. first, they will respect the rules regarding their entry into our country. we cannot accept that the entire country are legally. secondly, we also expect them to have respect and tolerance for our customs and respect dollars and they've been, they've found the value of organizations if, what's the problem. thirdly, people also expect all those coming to our country will build together with us a well functioning state, a state of prosperity. so briefly speaking, they are expected to work together with us for the common good poland, his head,

religious tolerance, inscribed in its legal system and mentality for more than 500. yes. that is why nobody in poland arcs about the face, belief or skin color of the people coming into the country. they're not even interested to know what country they're coming from. the question is whether these people are ready to live with us in a peaceful and responsible way. and that is why as president of poland, i did not agree for opponents become part of the quotes, the system for the distribution of migrants across europe. that is why i kept asking the following questions. what do you want to do with the people coming to europe? do you want to put them on trains or buses or any other means of transportation by force? do you want to bring them to poland, to my country by force? and do you expect us to keep them here by force? we tell you, such as a basement may symbol solve by steps such as id. that's what we saw in 2021,

was indeed a hybrid attack on the polish border by batteries. and we immediately realize this wasn't a spontaneous journey of migrants. one thing to come to opponent festival, we realized that those people were coming to better risk biplane. and this shocked us, so on these, the poor people who are looking for shelter of these per migrants and they're using planes to comfortable res. i'm sorry. so who's buying them tickets to get on these plans? and then it turned out that those people were not poor. we came to realize this quite quickly. we have documents to support this, and we have video recordings that show these actions on the police board, but not certainly provoked, but also stood an orchestrated welcome. i could say by the bill of russian authorities on how to use it was to be able to ski. those people were brought to the border with poland in an organized way by groups of police officers, border guards and representatives of the bill of russian military. and they were

pushed by those, sorry, keys and representative to cross the border with potent and important point is that we will not only speaking about the polish border, it is also the border of the european union. and this is the boat of the shane concern in the european union. we have an obligation to defend and protect his board not only to our own citizens, but we also have this duty before the european union. it is our obligation and we decisively stood to protect that board. polish authorities did not hesitate even for a moment, despite the different kinds of criticisms by the lifting circles and poland and abroad meetings of a higher stony place keep watch. we also decided that the only reasonable solution is building a high a barrier on this border to defend this talk. you will go back and i'll take it on youtube. pop, i'll be, i'll put on it. so let me ask you a question. thank you for that, and i can tell this is a, this a major issue in poland. let me ask you a sensitive issue. i, if i were interviewing and i have interviewed advisors decision paying and advisors

to let him repute. and they say very boldly and publicly the era of western style democracy is over, that it is fading. you are criticized in poland by some of your cohabiting government officials as using your veto over issues about judicial independence and whatnot. but what i'm really interested in is your views on democracy's ability to be resilient in this moment. is democracy still a form of government? as we see populism rising? what is your perspective on what the elements, the key elements of democracy are when we see such stress in the world, including in poland, what do we need to preserve? what is being you know, what, what is going to suffer? he's thought democrats, he allow me to pull a gun at vote and put stuff over to the essence of democracy. in my opinion, is based on 2 fundamental effect. it's festival, we have a division of powers. within this division of powers,

they have to balance each other. a lot of people do not one to understand this because with a game they'll distorting liberal and democratic systems to make things clear, this distortion concerns the system of justice. the judges will be coming, the main people deciding about things, becoming those in power as opposite ends. they do not want to see an external influence. they want those who assume the power to be elected only from within their own circles. that distorts democracy very clearly. because nobody knows who these people law and nobody fights to elect them. let's. so 1st of all, the balance of power a true balance of power. it has to be a balance of power between the 3 branches of paula, the executive, the judiciary, and the legislative powers. the 2nd thing, which is extremely important to me, is that the composition of power has to reflect the vote is true will in the election process. of course, the best expression of democracy would be to make decisions jointly through

a referendum, for example. however, in big states, this is simply impossible. now, we are in switzer with direct democratic tools. play a very important role. however, in big countries, that would be an extremely complex issue. that is why we have elections in some countries we have parliamentary presidential and local elections. and this is the soul of democracy. as long as the results of the election of the elections themselves and the composition of powers reflect the will of the people expressed in the elections. i believe that democracy exist. so y'all was on to a democratic guest. mister president, one of the other big emotional international issues coming up that you've been involved with is the 80th anniversary of the liberal liberation of the extermination and concentration camp outfits. and this is going to be a major emotional touch point for many around the world. you also successfully, uh,

got a resolution that would keep part mister netanyahu of his real, from being arrested if he were to come to that commemoration of that, of that liberation. i am interested in the emotions of this and how you and, and poland feel about this moment. but also how reflecting on the fact is, i think around the world in the crises you've got a 117000000 people displaced in the world. we see the aftermath now if the peace treaty or of the ceasefire holds between gaza and is real. many people who feel victims again of a moment and prime minister netanyahu is no doubt a very controversial figure for some in the world. but tell me your thinking about this commemoration of this moment. your actions with pregnancy are netanyahu, and what is pulling, trying to say to the world. there's a lot of those was on the problem. probably as part of those were the only problems i've been doing about this to this is a very complex problem,

resulting from pollutants. very specific situation. this results on 2 things. first, the jim and nazi concentration camps on the territory of poland. and also due to the relations between poland and the state of israel, we have in poland right now in the current territory of poland. the remains of the german occupation of all lands and the remainder of the occupation of the german nazi concentration camps. today, they are largely museums and historical sites. they'll provide a lot of people make the horrible mistake resulting from the lack of knowledge of history, of identifying those camps with poland. all those caps, especially the auction, pittsburgh and our concentration camp were built by the germans during world war 2 . when poland did not exist as a state because we were under occupation. german nazis mooted millions of people in those horrible places. they mooted millions of european jews,

including 3000000 jews who oppose those camp. saw in what today is the territory of poland. we take care of them to ensure that the remembrance lost, the remembrance of history, and the remembrance of the victims to the jews from all of the world came to visit poland. but of course, they also go to visit those concentration camps to pray for their loved ones and to pay tribute to the married ones. we respect that in poland. and so we do everything we can to ensure that programs can in fact visit these places. we do know very well that this issue is extremely sensitive. we also see it from the point of view of the more than 1000 year old published jewish relations. many times, poland was criticized and attacked by many jews, circles full those post bull relations. they all jewish circles, reluctant to admit that a very big number, a huge number of the rights this among the nations, those who were risk giving jews in world war 2,

what polish people and those difficult relations will serve resulted in a difficult moment between poland and israel, including in recent years, we are a stable country. we are a credible ally of the state of israel. we respect world peace, but also for tens of years we have supported a 2 state solution between israel and the people of palestine for a 2 state solution is poland, official policy. the paradox of the current situation is that when israel was attacked over a year ago by how much, when these really settlements were attacked by the terrorist of homos. and these rallies promoted as a result of that attack. when that horrible conflict broke out in the gaza strip, we had polish citizens on both sides of the conflict. and we had polish hostages taken by home us, and kept probably in the gaza strip. but we also had polish casualties on the palestinian side who died as a result of

a fight on the police. citizens died on both sides as a result of this war. we are trying to adopt an objective view of this and it says that is why we are stressing who attacked it this the palestinian side who attacked who launch that attack. it was home us. but we also stress at the same time that israel is a blinds to respect international law. even if there is a wall. we are going to commemorate the atm anniversary of the liberation of the german nazi concentration camp auschwitz back in august. and we are saying the following, we are not looking into assessing the international criminal court and the situation in the gaza strip. we are in a very special situation. and this 80th anniversary of liberation is quite extraordinary. and we, as poland all sang, every jew from every place in the world has the right to come to poland,

has the right to go to auschwitz and to pay tribute to the loved ones who committed the end. we for sure will not stop any person from doing that. we believe that's the right of every jewish person, especially of every jewish person with roots on polar soil. because we as poland, lost 3000000 jews from among almost 6000000 jews who died during world war 2. or mr . present. i think we've, we're at time i want to thank you for talking to out 0. thank you so much for your candor and sharing your views with us today. thank you very much. it was my pleasure to meet the the senate taurus terraces of the football officers club, loyalty, company, violence, confrontation when i was young. when there was a football match, we were frightened because the friends going to go crazy. what's in indonesia,

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