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hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth put on them a route that blew up almost as suddenly as it ended columbia and president, gustavo petro, knocking holmes with his us. count about donald trump, the full backing down, also us military plains, carrying deported colombians with bod. from landing by petro talked reactive swiftly with terrorists and sanctions. retaliatory measures announced by columbia before and upon climbed down by president petro deportation. flights with military plains to be allowed in with columbia promising dignified conditions for those on board. the speed of the escalation of hostilities between the 2, our allies have surprised many if the spot former left to scovella petro being at the other end of the political spectrum from trump. so what's to be learned from this episode about the new trump administration and how it plans to do business and what might be the impact on undocumented immigrants in the west as well as the countries of origin. we'll discuss all this without paddle of guess shortly,

but 1st this report from michael soon shed. he's with us. preston don't need some claim. speak to you in a stand off with columbia or with tablets and migration. the white house says the colombian government has agreed to receive flights, getting migraines devoted from the united states. it comes off to from trapped into both sweeping titles on all goods from the country. it will go to the columbia you for my columbia. as government has resolved its impasse for the government of the united states, we will continue to receive colombians that return as deep ortiz ensuring dignified conditions for them as citizens with the right side on the scandal began of to columbia in preston, gustavo federal refuse to allow to us ministry at croft, kevin defaulted my friends to land in boca time. from for tally, a tid by threatening to play, sweeping tablets on own goods from one of the reps as close as allies in south

america. he also threatened to impose restrictions on visas. within us, the 2 leaders engaged in 2 foot tap measures through social media. it left many people watered in the country, the county us as its biggest trade park. now, the other thing can be found to pull to that must be received here because this is the country. if you come to your own country, how can you not be accepted? it's not locked in on a single papers unless mr. petro is at least to think with a cool hit, not ideologically, but regarding what space for our country. i think he needs to think more, to preserve, protect, and defend the showdown came less than a week and took from 2nd time. in his 1st day, he signed more than 200 executive orders, including declaring a national emergency on the southern border and ordering the military to help detain am phones. but mike,

vince is decision to option his election campaign promise to front down on illegal immigration with all of strang, some of our willingness to flex american muscle in respect of immigration and respect all everything else. and so this is a victory for president trump. i don't think there's any doubt about that. the lessons that the rest of the world will take from what i think could be a little more mixed. i look, i think president, petro has done really significant damage to the general spectrum of nation. should we have issues or resistance, or how would you describe those actions and what is the trump administration trying to do? a specialist actions from an administration with believes in a restriction list policy. now i think we do, we have to say in fairness, the immigration was perhaps the single strongest issue for president trump in

november's election. it was a real vulnerability for democrats that they were perceived as, as less restriction. most certainly of the southern border of the united states on authorized crossings reached their highest point in decades if not ever about a year ago. they have fallen since them. but look, i think that the issue that you mentioned over the end of the refugee, the chef on program dollars point to the issue that rachel raised up by the, the general lie used reluctance or resistance to permit to migrate just generally. now i of course, trust them. trump appears to help us of different view, a whole the classic style of, of migration that is fully legal under employment fees as for example. but when it comes to refugees, asylum seekers. and of course, people who are just so hard on authorized biography as a very, very different view and virtual coming back to you because we're talking about the refugee resettlement program that has been suspended indefinitely. and so many

refugees who have been, you know, who have gone through the very long investing process and have been waiting sometimes for years, including those that have gone us down. who, assistant, the us military have had their travel plans suspended or even canceled? does isn't the us a signatory to the refugee convention and does it have obligations? yes, the short answer is yes. the us is party to the 1951 convention. and so it does have international obligations as well as the right to seek asylum has been trained in our domestic laws as well. and so, and i think from a moral perspective, we are a very wealthy prosperous nation that was founded on immigrants. and i think that people who have fled violence as stipulated in the, in the convention, should have a right to see protection elsewhere. and the united states has absolutely the resources. and i think the responsibility to do that, especially when we look at other countries in the region like columbia that have

over 2000000, then as far ones that they've received um that's much larger and columbia has much less resources, not much less, but less resources in the united states to do so and they're doing it. and so i think that the united states, we could learn a lot from our latin american neighbors in terms of what it means to actually welcome people. yeah. in columbia and on documented mind going from columbia actually make up as a raw the small number of the undocumented my friends from last in america ration or tardy and a real wasted in the shop with ministration. i think is a follow say i, i don't think they do at all. i think it's a much more my god, america 1st build the wall mentality that i'm a makes the trump administration on this topic and says, you are dial mentioned mexico, mexico. it's being reported that mexico refused a request last week to let a us military a cross land with migrants trade between columbia and the us as a tiny fraction of the trade between the us and mexico code. we see trump has long

weapon to impose tariff even of 25 percent on mexico. he even mentioned february 1st as a possible days. i think that's this weekend. do you think that we could see trump go ahead with such tyrants on mexico? if it doesn't support his policies at the border as well, i say trump is not oblivious to the fact that mexico lays mexico and canada both play a huge role in the us economy as price setters right in that we'll have, as they all said before, a huge inflationary effect on the american consumer. and so i think trump wants to curtail that specifically. but at the same time, columbia was such a soft target, one that was very exemplary one that was very easy to use without affecting the american consumer as much. and trump use of leverage, he took advantage of that opportunity, much of the detriment of the bladder race. that's hope that doesn't happen. canada and mexico as well. and right, so again,

with so many on documented migrants up to 14000000 in the united states from last in america. you know, what is this incident? alexandria virginia and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out as the com. as i said, the discussion do go to our facebook page at facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on x. i handle this at a inside story from me, elizabeth put on them and the whole team here, bye for now. the agenda is designed to inflame and defense the way that this story is.