tv [untitled] January 30, 2025 7:00pm-7:30pm AST
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the political i noticed, was talking to us from the occupied westbank. thank you both very much indeed. let me just very briefly show you these pictures that we're getting from a lot. i know these are the crowds that honda sahu correspondent has been describing to us and who are waiting for the coaches, carrying the prisoners to arrive. these are the security forces have said that they will not tolerate any form or any demonstration of the celebration when those coaches arrive. the specialist released a 110 palestinian prisoners as part of the ceasefire agreement with hom, us under deposit screenings gathered inmate to you. and you all could by westbank to welcome them home around 30 children. among the prisoners released at least 32 of them were solving life
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sentences. the this is the moment is ready for it is open, 5 is about cross called why carrying the palestinian prisoners travel to be occupied . west by is very soldiers use with rubber bullets and tear gas to dispatch crowds along the roads with a heavy protected convoys. a. it's a now mine and that she's there and because it is really government and the palestinian authority have bind, i'll just see it from a for the inside israel and then the occupied last by 1st we're going to talk to thought a couple of them live for us outside the european hospital in con eunice were released, palestinian prisoners from gaza are expected to be taken talk, just talk to us about with the kind of atmosphere that there is there as people are waiting for these prisoners to return this situation is very overwhelming as you can see right now with the bucket ground celebrations, maids and families set up freight things. the potential return of the palestinian
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prison is from the east by the j. is that in order to understand this much better, we are joined right now by how much i'm good i. he is a one of the palestinian prison, his sons, who is expected to be released today. yeah, i think you left him. how about the do tell him, how are you feeling today? and this has started the day and then i met a lot of news about prisoners that will be released. thank god, we thank god for everything. for this great and quick day our father was one of those in the deal. this is really a great achievement and we would like to think the resistance, awkward this. we are hopeful, i can't describe how i'm feeling right now was thank god and praise to be god. i was 2 years old when my father wasn't present and today i'm over 32 years old. my son natal is a 6 years old. i'm so grateful to god for having the opportunity to live these moments send to see my father, and i hope that all the prisoners will be released. and i will describe us not one
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to us who will lift the 1st movements with your father. i can't describe how i'm feeling. i have no words to describe this feelings and lot of our relatives and my parents, and in my own and that, that has been deceived. i would like to go to receive my father's sorry to re united again with his father. we can see now what groups of found a city and prisoners have arrives to either group and hospitals in the international committee of direct costs vehicles. and there are right now are going to be re united again with the family members who will have been and praising them for the 1st time off top g is up separation and an overwhelming situation with a mix of emotions. her unhappiness that had been widely seen, we can see now the palestinians are really embracing the release promised putting in the present as i there are the sharing hugs and they are celebrating the release
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of this moment. we can say i will send new calls from the international committee of the red cross. really right now making the way to the, to the european hash between in order to release. but in order to be again, re united with the family members. we are right now arriving to the rookie and hospital in groups. and we can see how many palestinians are a really, are really trying to be re united again with the families. this is the moment everyone is in a state of happiness. everyone is trying to be re unite to the again my bed family members. we got a group of the names of the is the person in prison is released at a release today from guns up there are approximately 9 published sent me an up prisoners are right now, are going to be ident, we're united with the family. all families will have been celebrating since the
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since that was been waiting for them since the hours of this morning dart sean sent us an offer letter. i sent our terms the topic for freedom. we can see how there are their family members are having them. in because they are desperately have been waiting news to be re united a gun with them. it has been a very historic moments when the release of the a senior person is so are right now in the time. and even they are going to be again returned back to their home and to be welcomed among their families in the gaza strip. they are right now on the right to, to be and to be undergoing a some sort of a medical check by the i c r c. in order to be allowed to be re united with the family members. this is the same at the moment to send it. prism is on their way to be re unite to the gun with the families. now this is one mental
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but freedom for the majority of them. a tonic ad, we don't know yet exactly who's amongst our group and how long they perhaps have been in is really jail, is one would imagine there must be at least some of them who are returning to a guy, which is very different to the one that they originally left of the kind of capitalism and fine units they are targeted. so rob a mattress and here in doha, i, we are having a few problems. i think with the signal to you, i'm going to ask the question again though there must be many members of the guys have a deep understanding of prisoners who are returning to a gas or which has been different. so the kind of guys that that'd be originally left. 2 i can barely hear you. ok,
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we're going to leave it there because obviously we've got some problems with a the, the line to the topic that we will, of course come back to it as we see more of those scenes of welcome and guys as those prisoners, there's problems sending them prisoners who've been released from is really just returning to guys or they're going to go into i thought it was describing a hospital for medical checks before being allowed to see their, their families and friends properly. how does the hoops johnny is not from jordan's capital, a non homeless being monitoring this situation far is what's been happening with regard to the release that we've been seeing. and let's just start with a kind of breakdown. if you wouldn't mind of who has been amongst a 110 prisoners who have been free today us. that's right. a 110 policy name prisoner is released to 32 of them with live sentences of 48 of them with long sentences. and 30 of them are children, most of which will be returning to the occupied westbank. however,
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we do know that several prisoners have already returned to occupied east jerusalem, but to neighborhoods like suited band had it. but additionally, there are some who have re been released to gaza and there are some who are going to be deported. they will 1st go to egypt for a couple of days before they will be accepted into other countries where they will essentially live in exile and not be allowed to return it to any of the palestinian territories the occupied with banks or guns out for the remainder of their lives, but most of these former prisoners now are being released into the off you pied west bank. and it's worth mentioning that israel has tried to mitigate any sort of celebrations among palestinians. this is something the prison service had been saying for weeks and today is really forces even dropping flyers across the palestinian territory. saying that if you carry any banner from any sort of house, they need faction. if you are involved in any sort of celebration you will be
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detained and these really military confirmed, but they carry out what they called pre emptive arrest thing. but they didn't want anyone to celebrate. they didn't want to these crowns of people greeting these prisoners. and in fact, we have seen video from places like camper on where it's really forces are actually destroying a reception area for a prison. there were just chairs that were laid out. no people just yet because the prisoner of course, had not gone back to hebron and is really soldiers were seen destroying the entire area in anticipation of for this prisoner released. but it's worth mentioning, even if these former detainees are being released in from online the occupied with bank. it could take them hours if not an entire day, perhaps to get back to where they are in different places. the also west bank because of the checkpoints that have been set up by is really forces over the last couple of weeks since this massive rate on the janine refugee camp had started. and in fact, gordon, most notorious prisoners to be released in this latest exchange executives way the
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of the do you need refugee camp who will not be returning because of that ongoing military operation. but his family says that once that's over he will be back in jeanine. it is worth mentioning, isn't it? honda, that as we have seen before, very often when palestinian prisoners are released by israel, there is a period of time. and before they are effectively re arrested, i'm very often they are arrested under this very controversial a system that the israel has a administrative, a detention can use focus through what they should be facing some of the, some of the palestinian prisoners who have been released today of all of those who have been released under administrative detention were initially arrested without any charge without any trial, without anything actually against them. and israel can hold them for any amount of time, but the state sees fit, deeming them some sort of threat to national security. that includes women that includes children along with men and the elderly. anyone really could be arrested
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under this incredibly controversial policy. but it's also worth mentioning just some of the conditions these prisoners are coming from inside of these is really jail. since the former national security minister, each of our bank beer had taken that position back late in 2022. he said that it was his mission. to make prisons worse for palestinians, meaning that the food rations were much smaller, the water was significantly decreased in showers and other types of things that you would use water for as a human being. they say that they were tortured. they've been, be in. i mean, we've been hearing these accounts from prisoners who are released from jail describing a horrific series of events. so israel wants to deter any sort of celebrations, but to the palestinians. this is something to celebrate because they haven't seen some of their loved ones in decades and those who have been arrested under administrative detention often times don't even get to speak to their families,
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not even through an attorney or a lawyer. so they're happy to see those people back as well of another. thank you very much indeed. does honda sounds good talking to us from a non i just want to show you these pictures that we're getting there from. i think it's from nala. and again, this is another coach that's making his way towards the cries that have been waiting. so far, i taught him to the pictures to be seen fairly patiently and fairly calmly for these coaches to arrive. we should just reiterate what honda salut and others have been telling us that they use any security forces have spent a significant amount of time and energy insisting that college stand in friends, family support is of the prisoners should not celebrate the release of the prison that unless you've not as 100 was just pointing out be carrying any songs that are linked to any palestinian organizations. now in the crowds, we have seen that few palestinian flags, i don't know whether or not that would constitute a breach of what these really security forces are saying should be banned. we will to see how these are the forces decide to react to the crowds when those coaches
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eventually arrive. but it's not just describing there. there are other cultures, there are of the prisoners who may not make it home for several hours yet and that already some is really easy. security forces is really military personnel are dismantling even rows of chairs that are being set out for a family of friends and supporters of prisoners that just sit to wait for the coaches and for those prisoners to arrive. so it is clear that there is a very intense is very military prices around the areas where these prisoners are heading to, in order to monitor what the reaction of the cries is going to be. we're going to go to model on bush out, or he's all just as senior, political honestly, joining us now from the mom on for viewers, or just joining us. give us your assessment of how things have gone over the last 8 hours, what the mood has been both in gaza and both in israel as well. it is uh, i psychological warfare and i think uh everyone that are on their toes as well.
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and then guys, uh, its uh, generally speaking, kind of uh, emotional rollercoaster. continuously and its been the case uh no less since the end of the, uh, not the end i should say the start page of the one, the beginning of the ceasefire. and then is, are the same, same way, and notably in place like to not be aware of that waiting for the captives us. but certainly these really designed for us to indians, meaning to visit the government on how much i should specify are using these locations in order to continue with the site. a psychological warfare that's been going on between them for 15 months. and as i mentioned to you before, robin, probably the fall of yours, that on the was probably to continue to expand on this point about why psychological warfare is indispensable in these sorts of estimates or conflict this
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because come back, real compact is one to 510 percent of what goes on, what going on between how much and, and these really military forces. the rest of it is all psychology and a good stat are included, stays raised for 15 months. federal rising, the head lot of the population of guys are getting tens of thousands. that's not part of any contact with how much the pretext is. those really predict does not have much of the hard thing on the power between civilians. but really that we have come back is only if i put in everything else can start college. and today the psychology continues. how much has used to day the day or release of pretty captives and 5 pilot ties in order to rub it in to show that they are organized, confident, are fearless and they certainly can manage. you know, i see a total of sort of for the media and for the cameras around the world to show just
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how much the are in control and fat, certain the human, the aids. and in that, as, as these are in the government, in front of its own people in front of its own base. when uh for 15 months they've been promising these rate is, it's only they could continue with the war they would destroy how much. but they had a chance for 15 months to a story that had a lot of guys though. clearly they did not just throw him out. so this is part of positive this psychological warfare. and clearly how much has message it today. on the other hand, quickly, this read, of course also is the master is the absolute master of the, the actor goals of psychology unit for many years. there's no need to thing and hebrew as you are reading the video game as and shooting and crying, or the more power for the internet service of the warfare. the party is by gives red. the more they pretend to be victims,
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the we've got the heart to is like come as the more they pretend to be fearless and, and super powerful and super heroes. and that's how it is. so is there a day pretends to be victim, i don't want that kind of sitting use to, to celebrate and they are depressed and the rest of it. what, how much that to project a sense of confidence. it's just exactly the opposite. the weaker sides prize. it's best to look confident and the stronger side try to look like a victim and touch on has obviously played a key role in the ceasefire. negotiations that have led up to this at least initial stage of this things far. and the deal that's gone, i had that a couple of days ago. we were covering a press conference that was given by much of all, i'm sorry and i can use the spoke to the fox talk. i was prime minister and for the on the funding administrator. as well, to get to your point, he said that if one question about the, the scenes that we had seen,
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particularly in guys or with regard to the release of the 1st is really captive. he said that yes, there was going to be political posturing as he called it on both sides. but as far as kind of we could see that was not going to have a significant impact broadly on the see spar itself. what's your assessment given that we've seen today in con eunice and the way the israel has been reacting over the last few days is on once you assessment about wanting find this psychological warfare that you're talking about to be high things on the success of the ceasefire . well since you brought it off, i wasn't going to mention it now, but since you brought it up, well, let me say that we we in the media. have the lion's share to play. whether it's the blame or to take credit, because there are no psychological warfare, i was without the media. because the only way this could play in the public sphere
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meeting among palestinians, a mortgage riley's and among the international public opinion is still with the media, not of the television guess the television. so without us, without the camera as being today and gaza, without the camera as being in the west bank and juice, and then forwarding to, that'd be for that matter. and the so called the hoss to squared or whatever they're called the rest of the world. and the other public affinity is on both sides wouldn't be able to get involved in the psychological work because there's some kind of psychological warfare. there's not just that gives gather for his fighters. it's meant that gives the face and their supporters. so in a sense, yes he is right. the capital officials are right, that is not present, decided to go to the heart of the actual exchange, the actual agreement. it goes 5. why is that from that? i think to the psychological warfare that has been going on for many, many decades to
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a week of party. the kind of thing is up to 5 miserable under is really occupation . time is there any occupier was foller for supported by the united states. but as i said, these ranges continue to play. the game of being the victim for is really is you know, like little children. they're not getting their 2000 found bombs from the united states. a while. on the other hand, the seniors are getting almost dan dan for 15 months. but the tv, there's has a huge, important role in getting the word out. now, we need to make sure of course, that we are not phones in anyone skis. so why we are report the facts from the ground and we were lucky as a 0 to be on the ground in gaza. and we were able country to is rams liking. to report the damage that is right clothes in the humane and, and the civil and then the national infrastructure within the gods. as trip we have
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reported genocide in garza and no one to they ended up closing all it also says, hey, here's the west bank. baldwin for now. thank you very much of the model of the shot . obviously it is a senior political analyst just before we move on. i want to show you these live pictures and we're getting from a lot of this is the come volume quote is making its way to the model that, of course, coaches and buses taking prisoners elsewhere in parts of the occupied was findings and other, i mean, intern garza as well, i'm going to be talking about that in a moment. but as you can see, the level of uh, security that there is around is at the moment the picture is slightly below but appears to be fairly limited. it is not as intense as one would imagine. having said that, of course is what's reminding everybody that the, these really security forces have been determined that there should be no demonstration of the celebration of the release of those palestinian prisoners. and so far, the thing is that we have seen
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a crowd solving gathering to equal prisoners as we being arriving at least as far as we have to buy was bank is concerned, have been fairly subdued, but isn't say these coaches have yet to reach their destination they read yet, i think to reach the point where those cries have been gathering. secondly, paying a lot of attention to how those crowds react. and a full side of the is really ministry reacts to the crowd. we're going to go to tatic, assuming he's joining us from fine us in southern garza. i'm taught exhaust and we were talking to you, but a few problems in terms of communication. glad to say we've been able to get you back now for us. so we're just joining us, bring us up to date with what's been happening because of course you were telling us previously that some of the prisoners are getting a lot of back into the guys that they've not been moving towards a medical center. i understand to get some sort of medical treatment before being released to, to their families and friends. just bring us up to date with what's going on. yes. well, uh, to, uh, it'd be, it goes for the, uh, it's
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a national committee of the red cross. have pro, it's a police 9 of palestinian prisoners to the repeated hospital in the south of the strip as they start to go through an initial medical check by medical teams and cooperation with the i c r c. now they are inside that building of the bucket. ground that you can see what the families of the loved ones are still waiting outside desperately in order to embrace them 2 or 4 hides, then to smell them off to the use of separation behind these very paws had very tragic stories from a number of the of the member of the family members of the palestinian release, prisoners today is some of them. i did not see them for more than a decade. the others have been growing up without seeing the fathers and they are right now a waiting patiently to impress them and to meet them for the 1st
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time. a sort of thing that detention by these very minute 3 alley upon the scene is right now is, is taught. we've overwhelming emotions of happiness, joy, hope, and also i'm dissipation for other families who are still waiting for the release of their sons. as we understand that there is another to void out for the i. c r c will arrive shortly, bringing most palestinian prisoners to the rookie and hospital in order to be re unite to the guns with the family. as we can see right now, families are shawn saying that has been received your messages messages to talk to them or faxes. and they also the correct to the gathering points with partners welcoming the rates on palestinian prisoners. additional suites also were made for celebratory gatherings. we can see the trucking ground, a number of boost up prisoners are right now about to be re unite to they've done
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where the families offset the end of the medical check. i'm the registrar for the registration matches by d r i c r c. and many of them are waiting to are, was so beautifully this days with the power city. and so additional address to be re united again with their beloved ones up to a very long d is all i really miss read and no less. they are absolutely right. now witnessing a historic moment for them, especially for mothers who did not see their sons for a very long time. and for them, we saw them crying, tears of happiness. for the 1st time, ever after spending sleepless nights remembering their sons worried about the phase about the way you to check your had received. it is very j as and do somebody in the bucky ground. i'll see you today to celebrate this moment. so in a very extraordinary day for palestinians. of course the gaza strip out alongside
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also we occupied with the bank to turn it over to most of the questions i was trying to ask you uh before before we had um uh some technical difficulties um one would imagine that we don't yet know who is and among space group i of palestinian prisoners who are returning to guys, one would imagine there must be at least 2 or 3 of them who have been and it is ready to jail for a significant amount of time. and it would be one would imagine also that the guys that, that they're returning to is going to be very different to the guys or that the left. yeah, that's why it's, it's would be completely different. they have to spend years and these very jails are suffering from all sorts of physical on site. cool. did you come to to the hands of these very many x ray? yeah. now there are about to be re unite to the, again, with the family members in a complete different nature environment that they are not familiar with. over the course of the past decade spot, the guides of strip that they once knew is completely different. so right now,
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i'm following the destruction of the vast majority of the residential homes and the significant geographic co change made because of these, where the military operations of the holly numbers all palestinians being killed. of course, many of them have lost. i mean, here the prisoners will are released to the loss of many of their friends is a coincidence, isn't it? absolutely. the black ones and this very devastating ministry to the size of campaign home does a for the right. now this is amendments of a freedom with a very difficult ties of pain for the loss of the very unprecedented the number of civilians. it's has a special flavor for them, for the re union, with their loved ones, where waiting, anxious sleep over the course of the past years for such moments in which they are witnessing history is being written. and i can see the eyes sparkling of joy
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and happiness due to the this very precious moments that will they will continue to remember 4 of us. sorry for not. thank you very much indeed. yeah, kind of goes, i'm talking to spare from san eunice as some of those pun assuming premises return to guys. so we're going to bring in or they go back. she's and is really political commentators during this time from tennessee or 8 for people who are just joining us and seeing these pictures for the 1st time at talk to us about how israel is responding to what has been happening over the last several hours. and so it's trying, it's best to control the narrative because that's all we have left um is that has not been able to stop the release of these prisoners. it doesn't want to be stop the release of these prisoners. generally government wants to hostages back. and so this is, fans is really a symbolic level. it's been harassing the assemblies of police, prisoner assistant for the, for roadblocks all over the rest thing,
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that she is effectively powerless to stop this. and the obsession with curtailing and limiting celebrations again indicates just exactly what it is, all can and can't do. it can a busy itself with symbolic measures that can't stop this release and it won't stop this release. i want to ask you about is, is commitment to, to this is father itself is a lot of speculation that once israel gets the, is there any chapters in gaza returns that able to essentially lose interest in the cease fire? i may indeed, as has been possibly populated by some members of the benjamin netanyahu coalition . re enter a gas or what's your assessment of how to method israel is to the long term ceasefire, or i doubt that is the present. the hor granted words are cheap at this moment and the subtler right wing elements of these early government are very much committed or at least would like to peer committed to the resumption of the war.
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but the war is detrimental. politically for prime minister and attorney out, and i think the majority of the as early jewish public does not want to board to resume. i think outside israel, being impressed by the enormity of israel's genocidal contained it is hard to properly assess how negatively the past 15 months has impacted israel of what a detrimental effect it had on his roles, economy. and as you know, and personal security of his early citizens on the sense of trust and faith, of his rarely citizens in their leadership, in their government. the basic violation of the tax between state and citizen the that they are languishing that the hostages for 15 months. as this demonstrated i think most is.
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