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that's again, that is designed to inflame and defense the way that the story is being told is not right. and it's not accurate from social networks to legacy media. the listening post explosives, the forces behind the headlights pulled out the the so i'm robotics and this is the news online from the coming up in the next 60 minutes. freedom of last, a 110 pounds of sending presents a theme released from is very jails, despite attendance by as it was, 5 minutes to suspend. the exchange rate is through con unit as palestinian prisoners and welcome home to garza, the 3 to 3 is varies. and 5 pine nationals held in garza as part of the seas find deal
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with israel, tears of joy. you find many members of a leave to sing 5, tie nationals. how do you guys have released as part of a 6? 5 deal. we've got with israel. the specials are used to 110 palestinian prisoners as part of the ceasefire agreement with us. the under the citizens gathered in vermont and the occupied was bind to welcome them home runs 30 children among the palestinians as it is released at least 32 of them were serving life sentences. and this was a moment about us to be in prison was reunited with his family and occupied east jerusalem. that's what at least 20 of the prisoners have been released. among the
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most prominent palestinian prisoners, when easters is all kind of as a baby, it was part of the fact of movement is not going to be of a low to return to janine and the occupied was bank because of israel's ongoing military assault. there to the needs of the series and communities in gaza, where some of the release prisoners met crowds of people waiting to greet them. august the hosting online. and then she's there because these really governments and palestinian authority of bundle g 0 from reporting inside israel. and to the occupied westbank 1st we're going to talk to topic of always who live outside the european hospital in con units, last released palestinian presents from gaza out expected to be taken topic over the last several hours. you've been talking to us about the arrival of those palestinian prisoners in guys or the process that they've been going through and the way that they've been greeted on their arrival at the same time. there are palestinian prisoners there who are not from gaza. they are being deported. just talk to us about what's going on, i guess,
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rob insights uh the uh, the international committee of the red cross has transported to the rookie and hospice i used 20 palestinian deport to use who are not from gauze are right now. they are in the rookie and hospice so, and they have been released today from the east valley j, as in, in order to understand the scene. that's how we are joins right now by ms by. lucy is one of those palestinian deport tease who has been released today. yeah, i think it says must box the selected. thank god for your release. can you tell us when, where are you in prison, and how long have you been in jail jailed and why are you forcibly removed to the cause of trim? i am mist the headless. i was a prisoner, i served for your 24 years. i've been released today, and here i am here today, spring. so you've got here and casa,
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and we are enjoying our freedom figured appraisal, be to comedy or the imprison minutes, or was it little bits or experience very difficult. and since october 7, we were subjected to a lot of the torture and suffering. we were beaten in the presence in the cells in a put them, in other words, everything that was related. and i'm not exaggerating here when i'm saying that's everything. so the be is really, it was really torturing the prisoners, had to tell us more about your feelings or now that you are afraid. however, you are removed from your family in your way. so i have been doing this. indeed, i am here among my beloved ones and my friends, but since 1995 i was living in the west bank. i lived there and my whole life is their degree. been hired people will do what? so my new brothers also and my relatives are there. however, if you will do that,
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my son, emily, is there in west bank my work also. so today i'm here and i've been removed to show along with another 21 prisoners of my brothers and the from the west bank. it is true that we are here among our brothers and relatives. however, we would have preferred also to be in the west bank. we still do not understand why we are here and we are removed and forced to stay here. do you think that you will be forcibly? you will be sent away from the gulf a strip or you don't have any clarity regarding this issue. what i understood is that we are supposed to be removed from the country. however, it's not been it i, we don't know exactly what's gonna happen. push a little bit, we are here to run some medical checkup. this is all we know for now the, and that's why we are here now. however, we don't know and i do not know,
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but i know that we have to be outside the country. are you happy that you have been released from the person? what these of the, the is, or the occupation tell me more about this stable some exceptional drug in your life? of course, i am filled with joy and positive feelings, and we thank god that we are among our beloved ones and relatives and brothers. let's go to what we also think our brothers in the, in the land make resistance, including how much time the other functions who are in on or before. oh, so the policy managers in the arab nation, including the governance of the air of nations. and we hold that we, the future will be brought to her husband, the reality that do step what sees, have been really enduring. they have been taught to the needs or is j. as on today, they have been deport, says outside the original towns and villages to the gaza strip without further details about their next phase and the or stage for at least
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a. the destination. the following. the agreement that had been raised between isabella come us spots for them. this is an exceptional, extraordinary day. that is a mix of feelings regarding happiness and anticipation about when next they will be deported. for d o d r in the tier, up in the gaza strip under the side of a drones that we can see at the moment and the a, the possibility of the resume of these. but it won't cause it's the 2nd phase when not witnessed any sort of success regarding the it's implementation and topic. it's worth noting isn't it that they did the sound of drones marks. the fact that the, if this right from is really ministry has never really gone away. the drones are there either to be monitoring what's going on on the ground or any seen cases as we've seen have been carrying weaponry as well. and with regard to the palestinian prisoners who returned to gaza and will be there permanently,
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one can imagine the elation that they must feel having arrives back home at the same time. what their arriving home to, in some cases must be very different to what they left. and of course, they're still having to face the part to be part of whatever rebuilding process their families are going through. so that's why they are coming to a complete new environment in comparison with the original towns and villages that they used to live in a sense that there before they detention in these valley jails for families right now. certainly the they are going through a psychological collapse of following that release because they are not able to be re united again with them. isabel has called for the deportation of an impulse palestinian prisoners a 2 outside garza. but we are really today surprised that a 21 of them based on the testimony on the spot, had been a completely deported to the gaza strip instead with no further illustration about
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the, the next destination. so apparently what we can see from the words of mist behind his. busy friends will have been released today is that they are a quite happy for their release today. but this happened is still a, it still is seen as a messing because they are away from the family members who, whose hearts and minds are acting to be re united. again, with them part possibly there might be 5 that developments take place on the course of the next coming days. but we are still closely monitoring any serious developments. and we believe that within the coming days we will see the, the more there is ready captives will be released in exchange of palestinian prisoners who are a schedule to be released and freed from the east. very jails based on the agreement between how much and he's ready, which is worth pointing out for people who are just joining is that the release of
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the palestinian prisoners was slightly delayed and the other on, predominantly because of the way the benjamin netanyahu responded to things that we saw in con eunice when one of these really captives was released and taken funded over to the international committee for the red cross and red crescent. she was around vice crowds on all sides. and benjamin netanyahu said that he was shocked by that. is there any indication on the ground whether or not harmless, which was in charge predominantly all of managing that process? is there any indication that they are going to change the way that they do the hand over is given as your point? right? they point out because we've got another handle that coming up in the next couple of days. well the, the previous hand over is that we have witnessed, over the course of the past week, could really say it says signify that how much has been organizing a key. and it's one's parents release of the is when it kept saves,
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with different signs of mobility. for the crew members of the i, c r c, along with the small was a transfer of those captives to the international committee of the red cross spot. today what happened could be assigned of the lack of organize the organization and organizing that we in the palestinian opt factions. impulsively they will try to a lot less than unless more uh more, a more results from what happened today because it seems might sound part of the possibility of the release of power as the new prisoners within potential release. it would release of is really captive in the coming weeks. and for a, the is really of a, for the is where the government, they are the key and that the, the, their captives would be transported to the prisoners within potential release. it was release of is when it captives in the coming weeks and for a the is really of
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a for the is where the government there are the key in that the, the, their captives would be transported to the international committee of the ritz cro, safely and in a manner that twins a, bring them any sort of problems and that's what we are expecting to take place within the next week's topic. all those i'm talking to is there from the news. thank you very much indeed as well earlier. is there any forces? open fire is the red cross con, like counting, the palestinian prisoners travels through the occupied westbank is ready. soldiers use rubber, bullets into gas, to disperse crowds along the route to the heavy, protected convoy gallons thursday. as we've been discussing how my son, as long as you have released 8 captives housing guys as part of this is far deal with is real the there. well,
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k o think seems and con units in southern guys is really captive. although the hood was released to the red cross, thousands of people surrounded the 29 year old and she was led through the crowd as it was 5 minutes and benjamin netanyahu called the scenes shocking and briefly stalled the release of palestinian prisoners. it was going to be strange. 5 tiny nationals were also handed over to red cross officials. these really minute to says the captives of being met by time government officials in israel was out am how much were these to 20 year old is very soldier. i come back in northern garza, she emerged from under the rubble and there's a body of refuge account that has been leveled by israel showing his war on gossip . she was going to a hospital in dream, but she was receiving medical treatment not going back. a is not were united with her family in israel, a kind of a who's joining us, not from jordan's capital a months. because that is where the government and palestinian authority have found
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out just data from reporting in israel and the occupied westbank. looking back over the last several hours and what's being happening hand, just can you sum up for us how the is really media is playing? that's how they're viewing all of these returns. well look, let's begin with the events that transpired earlier in the day with a release of these really captives from dogs. the 1st we had of females really soldier released from japan. yeah. which was a symbolic because this is a place that come, has come under relentless is really bombardment and is pretty much all in ruins. so for these really captive to merge from that rubble and be handed to the red cross was something that they had looked into saying that despite all of these really military operations there, despite the army saying that they had near full operational control of northern gaza, about a year ago, the captive was released from there and believe to be held in northern dogs as well
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. now when it came to the captives who are released in southern guns in hon. eunice, outside the ruins of slain hamis leader you have seen was home in southern guns. i know there were crowds of thousands of palestinians. the scenes were quite chaotic and it actually drew a lot of criticism from israel even so much so that it caused prime minister benjamin netanyahu to do away the release of palestinian prisoners, until mediators could give a guarantee to israel. that's something like this wouldn't happen again. we also heard it from these really armies, folks person daniel, her gallery, who said that israel holds have us fully responsible even if she was being held by another palestinian faction, or by another fighting groups. israel holds him most responsible for these types of problems. and essentially israel has said that they have received these assurances for mediators, which is why the palestinians prisoner release that had went on, even though a little been delayed, but as planned. however, there's been
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a lot of negative reaction towards the celebrations of palestinian prisoners in the occupied west bank. it's something israel has tried to suppress it. something israel has tried to prevent with what they called a pre emptive arrest of people who they thought would be celebrating, dropping leaflets and flyers old cross the occupied west bank telling people what not to do, telling them to not carry flags or banners of any palestinian fighting groups, telling them not to go to these large crowds and telling them essentially that they would be found interested. i'm just very booth. i mean, the pictures that we've seen over the last several hours kind of gives a lie to that in as much that we have seen, large crowds, which were fairly calm, at least before the arrival of the prisoners in ramallah. and yet we saw the flags of how the same size we saw. i believe there was one how most likely, certainly so flag is being carried representing fox as well. now we were talking before about the fight. they've given the scale of what's going on a was unlikely that these really metrics would carry out any action immediately. but one would imagine there is going to be some sort of some sort of action,
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some sort of retaliation if nothing else. with regard to the prisoners were being released, you talk to us about the, the administrative detention process. all of that leading the up to basically suggesting that possibly might not see a reaction from israel. in the early days of this, there is always the possibility. historically speaking, somebody has seen that there may be some sort of those phones i think it's important to remember that the palestinian people are occupied by the state of israel and an occupation that is deemed illegal by much of the international community. so israel does whatever it please is in this occupied territory, including carrying out thousands of harassed ones that have been up since the start of israel's war on guns. that since the ceasefire deal began. in general, if you're looking at at least 200 palestinians who had been arrested to and back in november of 2023 during the last ceasefire, deal that we saw there were passing into a release as part of that seal, rear,
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rusted, and on the list to be slated to be released in this current ceasefire deal. so israel says they're going to do whatever they want. essentially, their interest, whoever they want, we've seen is carried out in their policies over the years, even before the war with this policy. that's incredibly controversial, known as administrative detention where these really state and these military courts essentially arrest you without any charges without any trial and hold you indefinitely because they have deemed you as some sort of threat even though there is no evidence against you. and israel's, one of the only countries in the world, the tribes children in a military court as young as 1295 percent of those trials result in a conviction. and these children are part of those were being released. in fact, 30 of them were released as part of the prisoner swap today. and in fact, there was actually even video from hebron in the northern part of the occupied west bank of the showed is really soldiers destroying an area where a family was waiting for a prisoner to come back home. this was an area where people were going to greet him
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and his really forces came in and have destroyed the entire area. so despite the release, there's always that risk that these prisoners could be realistic. how does a talking to us from among honda? thank you very much indeed. i want to bring in or to go back is, is really political commentator is joining us from tel aviv. he's been with us over the last several hours or so. i want to ask you about some of the honda was referring to there. i mean, it is the focus far as i understand it, predominantly for the is there any people has been the return of the captives? we are getting closer to the point for more and more of the captives are being returned to another set are going to be returned within your like within the next couple of days. and it's in return for palestinian prisoners released. give me a sense of what your and your assessment is of where is very stand with regards to the, the conflict that has been carried out in their name over the last 15 months and beyond and 11 on against iran in garza. and of course,
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ongoing in the occupied westbank of the great majority of his early support is this conflict uh in various ways, some grimly, some silently, some reluctantly, but the support was a broad shaping consensus. there was one condition that was never tissue later because there was no need to take that. and that was that this campaign will succeed. this over finds itself better off, more in control of its own destiny, less threatened, and perhaps most specifically, not for us to solve the palestinian problems, but either having the palestinians dispersed or fully cognizant of their places. a higher key under is early rule. seeing is the, the campaign failed and the failures piled up on top of each other and reached critical mass. and at some point it became clear to, i think,
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what is now the majority of israel is that this war was not cheating. what it says out of to achieve, and that is why political momentum in israel is shifted. again, it's important to emphasize is riley's as not stopped supporting the notion of a genocidal campaign did not stop supporting the notion of carrying the war to israel's enemies. is just that most of us has realized that this has failed because it has failed. we'd like, i think that's the general sense and then we would like our live stuck in that sense. and that's why the wheels turned in terms of getting people's lives by one could understand that everybody craves normality. i would imagine at the same sort of course through the palestinians and the people in gaza at the same time, i want to talk about the impact on israel. is there any politics with this? because does that mean for going by what you're saying, that this is going to be a hard sell for benjamin netanyahu. when he comes to the next set of elections? he wants clearly to be seen as the prime minister who brought peace and created the
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cease fire and got the captives home. but if i understand what you're saying correctly, that may be a difficult thing to track with a growing number of assigning people it is may be a difficult thing to track, but it may also be less difficult. and it seems because every potential competitor who could strengthen now has actively supported his policies for the past 15 months . and the criticism of the man has been personal. it was not about policy, but certainly not about the campaign and gaza. and even more certainly not about the campaigns of lebanon and syria, and potentially against your on. so none of his competitors has taken the trouble of offering up an alternative vision. is there any reality? now it's true that this is from john, delicate, a balancing act. and that the now has to pull off, but it is not i said it's far fetched, assumed that he might be capable of doing so as early as don't really know the
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reality of living either other prime minister. ready benjamin it's and he has been in charge for the great majority of the past 17 years and he is the complete package in many ways he reflects is rarely in business. he reflects these early capability of, uh, you know, about supporting a campaign like the one is always running guides of it. also claiming a desire for peace and stability is always known antonio and it's a now noses or at least i'm not saying i'm certain he would win an election. i'm saying that it's an election is called in several months, which is a reasonable scenario. i think he stands a good chance of winning that election simply because there is no competition and he has defined limits and the constraints of the playing field, they are all cast in his image. he has an innate advantage and i want to ask about the role in the us. and of course, in particular, uh, president donald trump in this and i was going to ask whether or not your fault,
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donald trump had enough influence with benjamin netanyahu in order to be able to push him in the direction of a broader piece in the middle east. from what you're saying, i'm more inclined to ask would benjamin netanyahu actually care given his from what you were saying is political stand is very strong. oh, i think he would care because i think he, in many ways a stake just political future. i trump victory. and he has emerged strauss and in that sense that uh, in contrast to 2016 when it's in the out for trade himself as the elder statesman who basically gave trump advice and what the right thing was to do. certainly with regard to iraq, for example, i think the tables have turned to him these trunk cars wellness anyhow, has perhaps managed to impress his riley's that he is the whole package and should be the reasonable choice or prime minister. and it's, it now has brought about an almost unbelievable down grading. and israel's
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international standing of stature. israel is, i think, considered a liability by many of its brand. stephen s leaderships in the west still vocally support it. and i think that's a now understands that he will not be able to do pretty much anything unless trunk is along for the ride. so i think once again, the tables have turned. the thing now has to care about with trump things. i don't think he will be able to maintain any kind of regional stature unless he has the trump administration's back. it's really interesting to get your thoughts on this. only go back, we appreciate it. thank you very much. indeed. i want to bring in my 1st shot he's, i'll just get a senior political analyst. he's joining us from the moment. i don't know if you had a chance to listen to what audi was saying there, but i want to ask you about the role of donald trump and the dynamic between donald trump and benjamin netanyahu. ari, they're suggesting that actually tables have turned on. it's not the case but nothing. yahoo needs donald trump much more than donald trump needs benjamin
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netanyahu. do you think at all possible scenario is particularly for the goal for each and then and then the middle east could result from that? but it's not so much that within your own needs don't or then trump nothing else because trump does not know, trump is not running again. that's it. this is 2nd, the last term. back in 2016, 2020. he was still interested in the pro, is there a lobby? he doesn't give it down now for the, for his or logging in as far as what does that mean for his political career? nothing new on the other hand, is not only dependent on need is a hostage to the american president. i think the american president can, would, would, would one sentence one statement, one phrase then nothing. yeah. i was curious if he wanted to. i'm just not sure what he wants to do. what he wanted to do thus far. even before becoming officially
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president wants to make clear to nothing. yeah. who is the boss? and he's so can you succeed? doesn't that he's or nothing you know, get with the program get with the ceasefire. what else? and the thing you all had no other choice but to get with the ceasefire, even if it was at the risk of imploding. his question. government had in fact been very left and was almost there that's much it would live on. yeah. he had to follow . and tom's footsteps, because trump has the capacity to in his career and trump has the capacity to somebody is there are issues with is if he wants to. but again, i don't see the logic of why he would want to do that. pumps base is nothing. yeah . his base and america is regulations are not just about the executives. it's also about the, the legislative nothing else, but the lot in congress,
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as we know from the, for speech as a gift to both houses of congress. it's probably great that the trump and before him by then and before him, obama and bush, the hey and then to the day there is a consensus among the lead the ship. i love them both parties in congress in favor of nothing, you know, and these are the same thing, goes to the states, i now would say to the needs, you know, from the mosques of the world to the microsoft, to the amazon's, all the bases, those and whatever all of the models supportive is read. so it's not just about trump, there is a strong america is right. and the relation that has to be met with more than just trying to guess what trump is going to do next. it's not just about that. it's far deeper than that, far more strategic on that far more for middle than that. when we were talking about an hour ago, you raised what i thought was a really interesting point, which is the perception globally of palestinian prisoners are as opposed to perhaps prisoners from other parts of the world that there is that there is still
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a lack of understanding around the world of just the significance of being a palestinian prisoner in and is really jail. and i was wondering if you would revisit that for us and just reiterate what it wasn't you were saying about what is so significant and distinctive about being a prisoner who is published in what you know, my national, a forward part of national board to one of the most important poets in the world is the list that we wish was in prison. in the 19 sixty's for citing poetry, he was a citizen of his right. he was about a senior citizen who is he wasn't present friends since that and he became the national paul. it is one of the most important power pass code here to present what's called identity cards. there isn't a single arrow before about a senior that doesn't know how to decide that. and then he wrote his formidable foe
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and it present said it's fantastic piece of poetry that i so just a lot of read those or look it up. but anyways, since then, since the mid 19 sixty's a 1000000 almost a 1000000 stadiums into in and out of is really presence. that means each and every family, each and every community, each and every neighborhood patient ever scored that you and your family has been affected. because when you go into is really person as you go into the function, you don't know what's going to happen to you, is there, i just one of the early countries of the world, the torture. you could be tortured and you could be killed. you could just not see the light covered again. a lot of them were in prison on the basis of administer detention, meaning there was no case to be made. they would not put them child. and most of them was admitted to the courts, which means you just basically would be guilty no matter what you say and no matter what you've done. and that meant that the person became central to the palestinian
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life is occupied territories in garza and the west bank is joe. so it, even for the agent, everyone knew a prisoner or was touched by a prisoner, which meant that it became central to everything from literature. i mean, there's nothing more important than the present novel done. the poetry of the present.

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