is but but, but what about the palestinian prisoners then to be released later the $183.00 of them we believe something like in fact most of them a $111.00 of them were detained. opposite the type of the 7th attack. yes. so the 111 of them are actually from the guns this threat as part of this exchange of agreements. but it was that could be that at least $1000.00 set of students who would retain some of the goods a step since october 7th would be to use i think, the feminist, i just knew we think. however we, we also allow, we are also very aware that this a, it is with, when you really we be this, but it's been in business. we mean the, here's with that. the huge stores are quite a similar size, being beaten, being tortured before that release. we are waiting for the disease and we always does. it does not happen, but what happens is we made it really easy because we haven't been witnessing over the past 3 seems to be exceeding, uh you said that the eighty's had been intense in the beginning. that it easy for us to new business. however, i, i couldn't, i couldn't a certain that the families and those who i said everything over the guy sitting in

the law and the guys us that we think that at least one of the reasons. but it's been in business all. it's not possible for all, just as a professor at best i can of us, you know, specialist on political prisons, about what it was good to get your thoughts and you are now. it says, okay, so for our view is what you're joining us here on. i'll just say, let's just recap, defense for you to fix this and live on your screen. now, as dogs are sitting there waiting on the 3rd and final is where the host has to be released. but next spring, and i'll just say i was talking about zoom from how i knew this just to recap for this events in southern gaza, in hon and his colleague with you all with experience that are just to pursue the timeline on what happened this morning. and the yes, indebted hours of this morning, the minutes a flight to the minutes where we can go from us. how come earlier to organize the size in the to see upon you and as well. i'd be managed to successfully. i'm very highly secure with circumstances to hand over to is very tough to,

to the international committee of direct costs in a theme that has been completely described to be organized and well, i will put it's in the land of the city. i'll call you in this weekend, so you know about the ground that the military fight to is of how much are leaving the sides off. so it'd be success. oh, behind a lot of the it's very tough tips to the i. c r c on what's it's so important to know is that based on its value reports that the vehicle that has been used to a carry the is really 2 captives where was completely taken from the is very as characteristic during the october. the 7th i tried cutting out different vehicles that offer you to, to the military range from us, are overloaded with fighters, with black, blue the black to the cold and green bonds are trying to lead the area and a very remarkable sort of resilience. this power shows and they are trying to send

a message that's how much of a military force is it still existing in the city. all con eunice, despite the, is very claims. but during the previous military operations in the area that the managed to successfully dismantle the military infrastructure, we can see somebody in next to them are trying to take, uh, focuses for the fights is off to the accomplishments of the uh huh. and overall is very captive. that had been a, that's how has taken place and the ribbons of the destroyed homes and in a city that has witnessed a very devastating military operation by the is ready for the patient forces and the close to. so i had, you know, the main road that is blinking, but we, the nose and the south of the strip. this a step that has a take as been taking today by the military range of how much to carry out the hand

over today in such area. has a significant messages regarding the panels, use flags, and the way that those captives have a has been handed over to the i. c r c a. thank you, terry. it gets just gone past 7, gmc 9 am in gov. um for the batch of, oh, and you're watching out there is continuing special coverage of the latest release of these really, capt is as part of a sci fi between a mouse and the as route as to eric was just telling us a moment ago we have witness so far, one release to is really captive street from han eunice in 7 guys. i have been transferred to the red fost. we're expecting a 2nd release in gaza city. those are the live pictures that we're watching on the left hand side of the screen. the 2 captives where release this morning, or for a concert on and a yard in the bus. and they appeared early on a staging hon units surrounded by him off by just hand it over later to the red costs. we're taking them back to israel. now the scenes in fine units,

so this time where well organize in comparison to the hand over of kept is just that 24 or 48 hours ago. 2 days ago i tie cup was whom is monitoring the situation for us in gaza. we also got another of our correspondent, laura khan, who is keeping an eye on all things. israel for us. the reaction there as well as the expected release made to today of a 183 palestinian prisoners in exchange for these really capt. instead of being free today, let's spring in tarry cup was um, once again tarika as we was saying, things running smoothly this morning in han, eunice where you are in southern gaza and we're expecting now 3rd captive to be released in gaza city. talk to us about the see the and what we're waiting says to see happen. well, the following, the success hand over of the 2 is very capt system,

the city of hon. you and it's expected on the schedule based on the preparations on the coordination mates. but when i see i see, and the miniature range of how much does the release of the 3rd top tip will take place today from garza city, that we're witness the same level of preparations that have been made today in the city of condo, this, it's worth mentioning that during the previous grades of the release of the it's very top fits from gaza city. and from the north of the strip. all sorts of progressions were highly organized and had been praised as the sibling suite and conducted on the very smooth uh, security uh, circumstances that enabled a very smooth delivery and are at hand over of the is when it comes to the i, c, r. c. without expecting that i just said, tap typically released today from gauze, the city based on initial information that will be released from

a psych close to causes main post. in the, in the, in the west western side of gauze, the system displays has been multiple targeted by that is, for the military. there has been some sort of significant symbolism for the choice of places to release it is when it comes to it's we have witness one of the release as has taken place, a close to just seeing what house another wave of is really caught, fits were released from the on the, the ruins of the destroyed host. and from here today, we are another, a group of is really tough fits where i handed over to the i see i see in an open area that has been surrounded by the station and ribbons or from our homes and residential tube. and apparently the choice of a thoughts, or because it to be a limitation for the household is pretty tough to come to shop. to is clear invitation that mazda is able to continue on releasing the is really tough on the

very unknown, secure to such games console, shareef, strict center college, and they are a so having this sabrina, to the cancel over the gaza strip as a part of the indigo, the efforts to put on to this. now it says a light of the is when the receipts explains that the managed to mill economy, dismantled the infrastructure. all the money comes to me and who is this this movement alongside with the published and then let me see how the witnessing the hands old does it take place within a few cummings hours. so for instance, cost to take any place in life of your own building, and that's an old organize feedback that has been made by measuring of how much the price indexed it to your partner in garza city as well. ok, thank you very much for the entire capitalism that in finding the southern gaza. it's a joining us on august here. once again,

let's just remind you of what we're watching. we're watching the latest exchange of captives and prisoners between how mouse and israel on day 14 of the sci fi deal between the 2. and this is the 4th exchange of prisoners and captives. so far this morning was seen at the release of the 2 captains sometime unison. 70 die. that's over tangible on, in the out in the base of food captive as terry for selling. this is expected to be free from guys of cities from the ports of kansas city. as you can see on the id left hand side of your screen, the preparations underway. what looks like a civilian. they're throwing flowers as dozens of a mouse fighters line the seas of the 4th of jones assistance. they're also in the top hand side of your screen top right hand side. i believe that is hosted with in tennessee as well with families and people who was the supporting the release of been protesting for the release of these captors have gathered every saturday since

the war on guys that began the waiting anxiously to the news of them. not to one sex bringing north con, who's keeping and i on all things is that for us from amman? jordan, because these are the governments and the palestinian authority. a bond office there from a forcing from inside is read and the officers find west by nor understand that the 2 captives were feed earlier from han eunice have now arrived in his right the well. so we know, as far as we can said, that they are the 11th and 12th can be released office such as 3 set i'll set to be released as possible. the framework at the beginning of the steel. they have been taken away in red cross costs with a with met by the is ready only they are making their way to an area called rain, which is essentially on the outskirts of guns at that. as we've seen on

a weekly basis. they will have these preliminary medical checkups just to ensure that they are well enough to then travel an after seen her week. haven't yet seen the helicopters. usually they all take an invite is right. the only had a cop to and that flowed into a medical center in tell it feeds. so they'll meet with their initial family members that close to family members in room. and then those meets with all the family members of friends inside the hospital. and of course, that's been seen in what's become known as healthy square in tennessee, where people of course are celebrating the release. and so we've seen this on a weekly basis now, as i said, we're on the 12th tests being released. indeed, and we are looking at those pictures of houses square. obviously people still waiting on use of the 3rd captive who's due to be freed from gaza. city. uh, this is the 4th exchange. laura, how is it being viewed and received in this route?

what have been sort of the reactions in his route to the side release the well, i think to pull to and say, who's being released today? so 1st of all, we saw officer cal throwing up on stage out in much less kale chick mccrae crime scene. so we saw on 1st ideas, right? the army put out a statement saying that they had a pressure. how much to ensure that the safe passage essentially of the captives to israel. and they have actually pulls the tennessee and present exchange just for a few hours. last week until those guarantees were given to them up thoughts that he, he was actually taken with his family, his 2 young sons and they were released as part of a come to the exchange deal in november 2023. but we also have yards from the boss

and he's become a huge symbol inside of israel because he was taken with his wife and 2 children. one of them is the youngest to be taken in garza, they could see it and ariel now nothing is known. currently, as to the fate out, we know a success pulse of this exchange deal. it was people who are like women and use who was supposed to be released, followed by men fully by men over 50, now yards and is actually 35. so how much decided to go ahead and, and send out younger men of to some pressure from the negotiations team. and israel thought he is huge, the symbolic of the bring them home now movement. and it is his family that's going to be positive across. he's ready press today where they're saying, you know, they, they still don't know the face of them. the all serious concerns out. we know from us that's age of assess the 3 captives have actually died in during the war and

going to as guns was being completely obliterated by the, is ready all me. and they gave a tally. they didn't give the names of those people, but he's right. intelligent said that that that's the tale was in line with what they expected. and they have already spoken to family members, if they all consent about essentially the fates. so this he is a huge name. as i said, heidi symbolic and his pictures essentially, plus that old of israel thoughts as you saw from hostage sway in tennessee. people are watching those screens the waiting for their loved ones come back and they will be of course, celebrations indeed are right now that they're anxious to be waiting. and we do understand, laura, that also cons are on in yet and be by so to kept is where freed earlier today from hon. eunice and 7 guys a half now indeed a ride in israel. let's discuss this further now with deshawn baskin who's

a middle east director at the international communities organization. and he's also a former hostage negotiator news relevance. joining us from west through sam. thank you very much, mr. baskin for being with us on alger 0. what do you make of what's on the phone that in this last hour and, and the way this exchange has so far gone with the 2 captives who are freed earlier today as well. so far as the 1st of the morning. first of all, it's very clear that the lessons from last thursday have been learned. and today's transfer of the 2 is really hostages. so far is quite an orderly and quiet and organized um the area was clear of the civilians and the from us a combat to in some incident had full a. isn't the look of some have full control of the area. it was done quickly, quarterly. in the way that it shouldn't be done. so i think lessons were definitely learned. yeah. talk to us about the captives who are free today is nora

corresponded, was saying that one of them was a symbolic and controversial. why, why was interest so insistent on, on these particular captives being fried in this stage as well as in the bus, is obviously one of the big 2 casualties of this whole conflict. his wife and 2 children who have become icons, symbols of the so the war and the attack on israel, on october 7th, these 2 infants who had been seen in pictures all around the world with their red hair and smiling faces videos of them. and in the same way the yoga in the bus was informed by the hum us captors that his wife and children were killed in his breakdown. these are pictures that are embedded in the minds of every single is really throughout the last the 15 months. we've seen these pictures, so he's released today is, is very, very important to israeli society. also knowing that he's coming back to as

a broken person, infinity physically looked ok. they have no one to match and the, the a mental stress and despair of that he's gone through all these months. it was very important for 0 to bring him back is also a very different return than the others that we've seen before. and we've come back joyous to their families and are happy to be here, provided the identity bus doesn't have his wife and his children to embrace when he comes to your former office. you go straight to mister baskin. when you look at the exchanges that have happened so far, this is now the 4th one, as part of the 1st phase of the ceasefire deal between our mazda and israel. do you think enough? confidence building measures have been made since there's been enough confidence building? if you will, to get us to the next phase in next stage. now the sci fi deal, or no, i don't think so. i think there's still 0 or under 0 confidence between 0 and her mass. and if we get to phase 2 and the deal will be because donald trump,

president trump, is pushing nothing, you know, to make the deal. nothing else as through a lot of pressure from within. assume government not to make phase 2 of the deal. because everyone realizes that phase 2 is supposed to lead to and came into the war . and so it is really withdrawal from casa, and today, this is something that the, you know, doesn't want to members of discovery. we don't want. so do you think americans want that the americans want for this war to end the trump administration wants? well, could they put pressure on the child government to get to the next stage, or they can certainly put pressure on that's a going south is the what's called the presidential link while he was here and met with 2 members of the government who have been talking about not going into face to the americans are apparently applying pressure, but you have to know what's on a collision course between what trump they want into band and what numbers of his own governments want in demand. and we have seen nothing, you know, it is all political self interest in front of the national interest throughout this

bore and said, we don't know how we will respond to item fearful that israel will try to create a propagation that will be to come up breaking the ceasefire and then nothing else will be able to go to the americans and say, here, look what they do. we can go back to war. now, here's the best and thank you very much for joining us on august. the good to get the perspective there from israel is now bringing by so for raj, who's an assistant professor at the state university, and a specialist on political prisoners is joining us from onto findings to send. thank you very much for being with us. another important event today of course, will be the release of more policy and present as an exchange for the captives were freed this morning before we get to that, because i know you specialize on that. i wanted to get your thoughts 1st on how things have on folder this morning. as we heard from i guess, on baskin there is really guess earlier. and for my correspondence on the ground

things a much more organized, less chaotic, which is a word that these really prime minister used to describe the, the previous exchange 48 hours ago. then then they were today what, what do you make of what central did this one? yeah, i mean, when one thing circuit is that this is, you know, that elizabeth certainly business has taken place at the heavy at all. it was quick good. but again, i have to question these 2 in this the she because it's part of her brother this course that is that you needed even has been long using against palestinians to pick to them as cruel as k all think has come in those we've with this the, this course that is really ministers and is there any government that means that there's really a public has been describing and using to describe what it's doing is doing this. i'm going genocide of repeating them as, as some humans, as human animals. i think this is even descriptive, descriptive sense of the k all think handle business is part of this colonial legacy that has certain has but essentially again,

spanish spending. and so we have to also question this to them. and obviously we have to remember also that what's taking place is because the government had declined at the beginning of this genocide to give you to them. does that exist inspections, view the agreements and the guidelines? because otherwise, you would not have been witnessing the 16 month long genocide, so it's definitely not quite good for us to handle the descript. it has to be question right? this is and who had to be true and i guess, but assuming visits. right. and of course, uh, do you have a big piece of all this uh will be the release of more policy and prisoners today from israel, from off of prison. notably, can you talk to us about that process at, based on what we seen previously? how do you expect that to go? i guess i expect expect delay. some of those really sort of these i expect, but a student business we, we know that a student commission for the can use an extra to use. it says,

announced that $183.00. but as soon as we get at least $111.00 of them will be released into the causes, tips to the lot. but the thing is what i understood from the ghost ship after october 7th, i mean that 111. i expect them to be the license, i expected the buyer and the violent and torture they will be subject to to which they have long been subject to since this would continue unto vanessa moments of deliberate issues. so basically at the moment they actually manage to get on the, the i c, r c buses because we haven't heard of the we have heard stories, but it still has. one of them hesitates with root can during a we think type port for being a handed over to the i see, i see. so i expect them to be for the device that there wasn't expected for me to be anxious to be waiting for them. the money over them, the exec 9 people to them have been serving like something to have a high high sentences. and 9 of them have been serving like sentences. so i expect a lot of the most of the website, the i like to see it for the photo. so it is showing to see, but it's been in business being nice because history has told us that in the only

way, unfortunately for by this thing in business specifically those who are said of elections has to be defeated like to be liberated as either so that they have the which we have with this in september 2021. i'm looking at his feet. he was released kind of necessary to substitute agreements. in fact, since 1949 wanted to be at least 30000 prisoners, whether it needs to exchange business website agreements with this really good audio emerging, right? all the prisoners were expected to be released later today. male, i understand including 72, as you say were setting high and higher and prison incentives in life sentence is also a 111 of them were arrested from guys after october. the 7. what is, what has also been significant with these present releases, especially with the previous exchange, is that some of them are not being allowed to stay in the occupied westbank or the

guys of straits, but a being defaulted to, to other countries to, to jordan. and egypt had also said that if they would take some of the places, why is this remind us of, of the reasons behind this? yeah, so this actually is or did not see it. um, it seems to me business being deported to egypt and it's not clear again, it is just a sensitive being phase of to see what other faces sort of thing would be sitting in an issue. but just because this ryan is actually trying to take and events computing this exchange that could even be attractive and what it's doing is business funding through and kind of a city they think these, these guidelines that some of the prisoners why saving less sentences, which is an easy fix, as you know, as they should be more than upset, but as soon as the weight is going to be 9, you can get some of these, this kind of sort of free. and i think with this, how many of them is that they have to, you know, that is part of, again, with the policy or reporting for this thing is effective using previous moments of

history is 80 is with the 4th thing for the business with us. i mean, it seems extreme and so it's a way of criminalizing the resistance. and so we've the name visually, and i have to also add, use that some of the companies whose loved ones have been deported to egypt. we have heard stories of distributed, uniting them and the ability of leaving us think so basically what he thinks nowadays, which is again, the continuation of this. anybody want to see if i think that it's the needs of in finishing the discussion of the disease, which i have to see here. it wouldn't let the end with this with the business while agreement is that we continue to get tickets. but it seems to continue to push it, but it's these because it's center to the way its functions, right. bye. so far i have thank you so much for explaining all of this to us. and i just wanted to get perhaps a little bit more on, on what life will be like for these prisoners who will be released later today. because we specialize a, for some political prisoners. they will be the moment of joy when they were united

with their loved ones when they meet their families. once again, whether it's in ramallah in the occupied westbank or in gaza. but then what happens after that? how do they re integrate into, into society? this is a good question. i thank you for it because actually part of the after after up is in kind of life is defeated and the anxiety will be angry at us. that again, we and we know this, but it's been a business why liberty, even though the treatment status says that they would not be a detained for the previous for that be discharged. reorder the live with this constant anxiety. and this constant view of being at us again, we or some of that is to specifically do is go ahead and exchange that agreement. we have a given guidelines and restrictions and some of the nice presents that they cut off the road to certain areas. for instance, i've had stories of for students who would release using the previous 3 phases, that they kind of 7 to their cities. so they have to stay in the instance. and in fact, since the beginning is there,

it has been using this policy too much the only control of sidney life livelihood. but most of the issue is that people actually enjoy this people. so i have to say this is a very good question again that this is, is not complete, that this is not a complete freedom because it would still be under control. it wouldn't be under various innovative and effective is at the hands of is there any way to do that again, to start at any given time to come back to the rooms and to begin them. and we have witness images and strategies, including the houses of prisoners who were getting these duties. the 70 members that these any flights of big any problems will answer. the reason that the, with the at us again to thank you so much for talking to us and, and sharing your expertise there with us and your thoughts on what's happening right now. basil for roger assistant professor, our basic university and a specialist on political business. we of course, look forward to talking to you throughout the day here on how to 0, about this matrix exchange of prisoners and competence between israel and homos.

and just to recap, to offer us just joining us. it's almost coming up to $730.00 g m t. that's 9 30 am in the gaza strip, where we have seen this saturday morning so far too is really capt is being held in guidelines returned to is really territory after being handed over to the vet fonts . as part of the latest exchange, they were releasing con units in the southern city of casa a short while ago. my thirties really captive is due to be released in kansas city . those are the images are watching on the top left side of your screen, where dozens of abbas fighters have gathered, as well as crowds. that side guides a city the photograph, a city. where is the prisoner who is named as keith siegel? the 3rd captive, i should say, the 3rd captive, an american is really, is you to be freed moments away from, from now i understand. let's bringing off correspondence on the ground topic up was on was in con eunice in 7 guys, by the way,

the previous 2 captives were freed from just remind us that topic of what we have seen so far this morning and what's expected now to happen. so we have witness earlier today of the release of a to is by the captives from the city of han eunice under the supervision of the high c r c. we started dozens of how much fighters have lines up organizing that really used to be uh, successfully, and mostly taking place in this boxes area. and the city of pod units close to is paula road. we so high levels of preparation spring may elia either the preferred nation. so kind of weird so that you can see right now empty at the back, the ground. that was that what puzzling with the of the made the fight to is who was securing a very smooth release of the it's very captive that the operate you shouldn't have the hand over of the east where the captive on this side has come to an end

successfully and right now on the way back to be handed over to the gets pretty minute for you to on the go as initial medical checks in order to be late tested for united again, with the assemblies in the other side of the occupied palestinian territories. but right now, in the notes of the strip and the other side of the gaza strip, as there has been ongoing for 3 since by either by the ministry link of how much it causes ports in order to release the fed is very tough to that has been scheduled to be released today and it seems that sound to be completely and comprehensively organized. 5 of those fights as was trying now to secure the release of that captive in order to be a atheist. lucy handed over to the i see i see fully and uh we, we do understand now that the red cross is on its way to guys a city to a be handed to the captive. the 3rd captive keith seagulls.