of the isabel, it kept saves the operation on the hands of, of the east when a captive on this side has come to an end successfully. and right now, on the way back to be handed over to the gets pretty minutes for you to on the go as initial medical checks in order to be late test for united again, with the assemblies in the other side of the occupied palestinian territories. but right now, in the north of district and the other side of the gaza strip. and there has been ongoing for 3 since by the, by the ministry legal from us being causes ports in order to release. the fed is very tough to that has been scheduled to be released today. and it seems that sound to be completely and comprehensively organized. 5 of those fights as lot trying now to secure the release of the captive in order to be a atheist. lucy handed over to the i see i see fully and uh we, we do understand now that the red cross is on its way to uh, gaza city to

a be handed to the captive. the 3rd captive keith siegel. who was you to be released by him? us uh today. uh we are waiting for those red cross vehicles to arrive. and of course we will cut to that as soon as it happens. now to have another developments today that is expected is the roof of border crossing it. reopening between guys and the zip to allow seriously injured palestinians to these guys are in finally get medical treatment. talk to us about that. and when that is just a rough crossing is expected to open today uh to allow for the 1st evacuation, waive of 60 palestinian one. the patients uh, from the gaza strip, to receive the treatments and hospitals in egypt and in other countries as a part of the team approach by regional miss yates. this is where, um, how much? currently, a rough i've costing is under the supervision of the european here for some taste.

the movements of a do is 16 patients outside the gaza strip based on a request from palestinians and is written to a as a part of the deal that has been re weed from us and is now a europe and union is corporate thing with the w h o to facilitate the departure of who is wanting to station a 3rd party has been engaged in the mechanism to supervisor the departure of the, of the palestinian more people including the palestinian authority that okay, so there's also a connection every say with terry capitalism. my correspondence on the from this, in the southern gaza. the top left is where it's, we're watching 2 helicopters, those are the, that's the israel guys, a border to helicopters coming in to land with the top right, sorry, top right. can you tell me what those 2 helicopters coming for?

what day of westwood? okay, we'll find out in just a minute and we'll of course update you on that. but on the left hand side, this guy is a city once again where we are expecting the 3rd is really captive. who is it to be released today to be handed over to the red cross momentarily? we understand that the red cross vehicles are not on their way back. so far as we touch my correspondence on the ground, things have gone smoothly. more organized and it was 48 hours ago in the last exchange of captives and prisoners. that happened dozens of a mass slightest lining the 3 se, as we can see is one is on look, is coming to witness what has been this 5 to time and time again as a historic moment. as we see these kept his freed up to 15 months, but also later today policy and presence release from is really present with us in the studio. following all of this is the news channels aka associate professor at katara university. here in doha, the shadow of see or thoughts about how things have unfolded this morning. i asked

earlier, i guess and as well whether they thought it'd been enough confidence building measures to get us to the next phase of the deal. given what we've seen in these that for previous exchanges. now, while i agree with the north, no good at all. i mean, i think this is, i see. so it would be between enemies know people that they want to, to retain agreement to move forward. and more we're going through in the what the, the, these for the border that has to be the same. i mean it's, i know high students and i'm part of the government far by government. it keeps saying that, that this data is not a good fit for you, for, and the 5 needs to be restarted as soon as the, all the horses is really so mean that the maybe after the 1st phase, even though that it says, feel that they hold that difficult face, we would move forward while in terms of the seasons that it would depend on how and this really garment is, is, is going to behave if they find the need. okay. so anything that might my made them

to, to, to, to say, oh, you come for us on how must of therefore we need to keep going more, it seemed that the logistical positive how much existed there. the so what, what is the message when you look at these pictures of these, how my spices lining those 3 sales of gaza city on the 4th of gaza? you know, it looks well organized that carrying rifles, you know, what's the messaging here? you're saying what, what are they trying to say to the well on their lives? if the where on the thread that you didn't on the 5th us, even though you claim that the mean time the we have defeated we have in there, we have our logistical process. it almost seems like we were able to protect that. that, that they accepted, even though you were, we were under heavy fire by, by you. so that we were not only able to with us, but to put them in order to have an extension. and also showing that they're still pretty much in charge and you guys are when you look at that and therefore that israel's military objectives, i mean,

what does it say exactly what to say is what by then said last time it will maybe one of the fewest thing he was fried about is that this is not solve my boat immediately. i mean that she kind of when the war and how much we know we never be destroyed neither physically nor i those equally so that they need to have my policy got it. we may noted for some of the problems in gus, on nevada, i bought a site that keep going. i'll keep a fucking a got some more extended, defies to to the west bank. he's not going to solve any so if it is nobody to go with the set, this needs to be see, should we never happen? but we know that these are the ones that have yet to stay solution that they have other ideas in mind. moreover, closer to what time is isaac is to say, well, let's just remind our viewers of that what the you well, you owe us presidency. how did you get it? has been saying he has said that he would live to see policy. and from guys i moved to countries like egypt to or jordan,

which egypt sions and jordanians have said no to but from seems to things that they will ultimately agree to that. she said it 3 times that what's the likelihood of this happening rather than what he's describing there, by the way, is essentially ethnic cleansing. i mean, telling people from a place from the line to move to other countries. yeah. but yeah, i mean i, who is following a pre set the time that this the, to my case gusta, on these are the only way to do that is either to kill them or to move in somewhere else that tom is pushing for this. is that going up to him? i don't think he's in the mood for pushing for in the clinton because he's going to be bottle. he's a place to resume, but the but he's pushing for the solution of the moving people. i will type. it keeps repeating, the wheel means that we tried to use us for exhaust maxima, we both jordan and these are to at least every, some of them, maybe this symbolic, maybe this a re,

a but what we see from times with the that they move around the cells for the right now gives you an idea that she could be serious in terms of pushing the solution to, to be, i mean, he could be serious. i mean, we have a meeting of foreign ministers in cairo today to discuss the future of gaza with the leaders of this region. a great that just whatever pressure to apply, i don't know whatever pressure is applied on them. whether it's, you know, perhaps less arms or what, whatever it is. i mean, will they agree to it alternately, knowing that people in this region don't want that to happen? well, it depends on how, um, how much pressure you enter for to use immediately. samsung financial comes in for me because times we told the company that would be more subject to this price. so in terms of which countries do you think i'm more susceptible to discretion? jordan, well, enjoy, like, i think the most benefits sufficient, but because the mostly because of the, of the month for less than one to a source of the hosting we have to be in month of half of the police. i'm told i'm

all this is from policy and or is it so the complex stuff for see them for medium or policy? number 2 is going to be based on the license. is it canceled by i think the better, but they have a base phone. it'd be less well with, with this rounding that besides back in the 1979, probably this is the company that would need to accept that even though the find that somebody's most significant most it could be. and but only because braces come the accepted most a on or on easy because in the c, c is also supported by the united. so have been supported by united states and in the dc company, basically to, to say i, i don't think any of the states are waiting for the flux. that's an me neither. i see them except in this, a kind of a pressure go through the be fine on somebody speaking. they don't have any, any formality, natalia speeches,

smitty. so the idea would be more for myself and my, my do not be states, including the idea that this would be part of the normally say. so the fee, so i'm going to say something with this i. e. so we gotta be a homie thomas. we've been talk some of the channels i kind of always get to do this. ok, thank you very much and just stay with us as we continue to follow even see in guys that israel and the region on ologist here with this latest exchange of the 4th exchange of chapters and prisoners between israel and tomas. so far we seem to is ready captain street in hon. unit 7, guys. i hand it over to the red cross and have now arrived in israel. let's bring in your con, who's in jordan for more on this set, or what are you hearing about the 2 captives were freed earlier today. we saw helicopters, 2 helicopters on the israel guys and border area, a pictures of that at least. what do we know about that? where about some condition that's correct,

certainly. um a few minutes ago we saw it as to how to cope this coming into land in an area called rain, which is a coupon out just on the outskirts of garza. so these ready prime minister's office is over the what is the statement saying that they have are taking these ready all me have taken in those 2 now format captives. and they're going to have some initial medical checks just to ensure that they're well enough to continue that journey on to tel aviv and much like the same stage career free as, as we've seen on a weekly basis with the all the captives where these they will then be taken to a hospital in tennessee, that'd be greeted by the closest family members of the outskirts of garza and then more friends and family later on, where no doubt they'll have his photo taken. this will be then said to be as ready, media as those celebrations taking place. and then that will be reflected, of course in tel aviv is in this area to become known as hostage scratch web family

members of the captives. and also those in support of the, the coming on a weekly basis protest since the is rated government to finally get this deal done . and many of them a highly critical of the government. they have seen so many months that has just taken so long to get these negotiations on the way. and just following these begin to release these captives. so that will be of course be celebration staff. but we're now going to see those 1st 2 captives. also catherine and georgian devoss being taken away on helicopter. and of course we're still waiting to see what going to happen with keeps ago. i've been told that will take at least 20 minutes to half an hour to get him to the same area is very i'm where i will essentially be greeted again by these, right. the only one in the meantime, we haven't yet seen. even though when looking at these live pictures, not from die, the city, it hasn't happened yet, but that 3rd captain being handed over to the restaurant that looks like it might

happen very soon. but as you mentioned, laura on the top right on the screen are these images of these 2 is really military helicopters in southern israel. that's where the 2 captives now former captors, that he said, also condo on, and the out in the best were freed. oh yes, in hon. eunice. i'm going to be welcomed. i guess they were released from the kind of scene infections and con eunice v is really on the will then be transferring them to a medical facilities for checkups after the spent 15 months in captivity in gaza. and the 3rd captive, as laura said, keith uh, siegel, an american, is really, is due to be released from dr. 16 a very soon. laura will check in with you again when things developed. but let's bring in gushing baskin once again. was the middle east director at the international. it is organization and

a former hostage negotiator in his route. joining us from jo. swim. thank you very much for your time. so laura talked to us there about the process. so what's going to be happening with the, for my cap does, okay, can you tell us about that a little bit more? you know, once the captives arrive in israel, what, what happens, you know, in terms of finding out what they went through and, and, uh, and the information that these really wants to get, get from the initial meeting with between the hostages and their immediate family and children parents, spouses, and that takes place and they allow them to have some space. of course they go through the results, medical check before they're brought from the helicopters and brought to the hospital where they will be going in central to leave it. at that point, they will go through their initial medical checks in the hospital and see other

family members. the army won't be june, bear you briefly with them until they die with their families. had some time to shower, to change the clothes, to get some food, to spend some time with the family. and he is actually quite sensitive about to do these people some space before they took the degree for. and the degree thing is obviously very important to the army, to find out whatever information they know about the well being of other hostages source. obviously return i 3 stage one with stage 2. there's a lot of information that these hostages probably have to give to. these is really early in the and the secret service, the shutout. and so you, i'm quite sure that they are. do you bring it in detail in the coming days to go? sean baskin, 10 captors have been released in the previous exchanges. not including the tie nationals. what's has the debriefing as you called it reveals so far as you aware

force. i know you've got a lot of knowledge of what goes on in, in these circles. what has the debriefing really revealed, as far as you know, the way they were treated? why they were captive in guys that we seen? i mean, during the, the exchanges during the release of the captives, you know, they, there was smiling. some of them were carrying what looked like, what's been described as a gift gift bags and, and so on. what has that revealed that the, the captives have been freed in the previous exchange is one of they revealed about what they went to wind gusts. this is revealed very little information to the public. we've heard very little things in the media and it's been very little reporting about it. there is an army censorship on a lot of the information that they have with they have indicated is that those stage releases, they were pretty much told how to be able to smile to way if there was a, a person with a camera in directing them to wave to the, to the crowds into smile. and of course they receive those certificates of release

and so on these really side, they look at this very, very cynically, they look at it as a, as a kind of psychological abuse of these hostages coming home. we can see that they have physically a, they physically will, they are receiving medical treatment. what they've talked about, some of the doctors who have been interviewed is a lot of vitamins and minerals and their bodies, the loss of body mass, loss of muscle in their bodies. but i would say after 14 months of tough to begin, physically they're looking quite well and you have no idea where they have their mental state. they will go through and the psychological assistance for, for many, many months to come. right. but as i say physically, they have indeed looked well, i wanted to ask you about another important development that is expected to happen today. and that's the reopening of the rasa border crossing to allow injured palestinians to leave,

to be treated. but the facts that injured combatants are going to be part of this group going to be allowed into each egypt to receive treatment. that's quite significant, isn't it? can you tell us how that is being received and viewed in israel? and it's not being talked about is your life. i haven't heard anything reporting about it on the indies indicated to throughout for crossing is being opened. it will be controlled by people from the palestinian authority. and i understand you. bam is coming back to the united states to your pin union in border matters when people are coming back and they'll be monitoring it on the opposite side of the border. and of course the egyptians on egypt and side. but there has been very, very little talk about that within is always. so the other important um development, happening of forces of release of the policy and prisoners from, from is rarely tooting from off of prison. and there is also the meeting of foreign ministers in cairo. later to discuss the future of guys. we've heard of this week

president cc of egypt and the jordanian king said that they will not allow taken out of the engine guys as he's being asked by the trump administration by the us present. donald trump, who has said for the 3rd time now in the past few days that egypt and jordan should taking these promise to me. and i wonder how these really governments, it is viewing all of this the future of gaza. and what the plan is, in fact from israel as far as garza and his reconstruction is concerned from said last night, the when he was asked about the rejection of egypt and jordan to taken palestinian some guy. so he said it will happen. that was great brief answers if he has the power to determine for egypt and jordan, what their futures will be. there is still very little talk, affinity tactics taking place within the is, wasn't government on the future of casa, this is something that to deal with regions to do since the very beginning of the

war. and obviously, this is the pretext for loved to notice saying that the world will not change as long as masses in control of casa, they're happy, no real discussions here, at least in the public, die within israel, about who we'll go for in gaza on the day after who would be acceptable to israel to the united states, to jordan, to jump to the se, anyone else to the palestinian people themselves? they're happy. no discussions, really. other than statements made by westwood president pass or the front of this, the mohammedans, the full spoke 2 weeks ago and also and said on the palestinian authority, jobs in the future of their having discussions in cairo between the various factions. the junctions are very, very active in this question of who would govern gods on the day after. but i don't believe that there has been any determination yet. and israel's as not wait in whatsoever on this question. and it is a crucial question because what needs to happen in gaza immediately is the process of reconstruction or providing temporary homes to the,

to 1000000 homeless people. i'm building schools and universities and public buildings in the water network and electricity and sewage all is supposed to be done very rapidly. but it will not be daunted, promises in control the concept because the international community will not fund guy. so once again, it promises in control because it will be destroyed once again by israel, the images that are being projected on offerings right now is our shawn boston basking is of a mosque being still in control of gaza, even after 15 months of a brutal war waste, when much of its leadership was decapitated. one of the images that we're seeing right now of the some us fighters in gaza, city in hon. eunice, in full military gear with weapons and so on. that says at least on the images that how much is feelings until how is that being seen in israel viewed and israel, i mean, what does it say about crime is missing?

i was military objectives. he stated objectives at the beginning of the war to 5000000 people like myself and people in the military in israel. then reserve is company thing for since the beginning of the war that there was a military defeat from us. if you wanted to see from us, it is a diplomatic, a political defeat or from us which would replace some us with something else that we provide comes to indians with the help of a better future political horizon for independence for ending the occupation nurse . so military defeat from us as the ability still to recruit people to forgive them, uniforms and guns, and to put out our show that they were in power. i. i don't really believe that come out cisco control cancer. you're able to do these prisoner exchanges, which is very important to the people in israel overlooked the fact that israel negotiating to deal with come us. and in fact, we need from us to be there in order to deliver the is really hostages from us, was totally destroyed and they could not do what they're doing. now, it is very likely that the hostages wouldn't come home,

but i think it doesn't say anything about the gate after agreements that will be reached amongst the palestinians themselves on the nature of government and some options indicated from us that they are willing to have a civilian professional technocratic government in casa, which they are not part of, they have not indicating what they plan to do with as a dental custom in the militants who have left in still state. but i'm assuming that in the future, both your firm groups will also not be able to ask, independently of any problems, didn't even governance that might be because especially on boss can thank you for that. let me get the thoughts of others channels that are on this, the future of gaza and whether her mice will be part of this future or not. what are your thoughts? well, what do you think the thing that was said before, i mean this is 3 sites, it's a deal was time. we've come up so how much it was necessary to be there to sign dispute, but she needs, it, needs to be there for the 1st phase to be the info. so how you're going to make the reconstruction of augusta?

we dealt with how much it is, how much that scene other of the data, how, how they're going to make this deal to be implies these, how much is not that this would this bring us that they did that the sort of has no plans of what to do after, which is what goes on. baskin said, there's always no plant there is no play out. there never was never approximately but to begin with by the was asking if any help give me a plan of whether you're going to do a different investment. one for myself in one day, but it's, you know, for the, we don't know what the other thing is. once we know that the that it wouldn't be no space, it know to stay sort of and we got some finding out what it said that she doesn't want that. we see that the future at alpha with buying is also uncertain. we know that there are more supplements, so they want to be done in both with funk and, and the best of the problem is pushing for, but it seem to lead gusta and allow instead less to, to do behaviors unfortunately with this one. yeah. so how you're going to make african instruction without how for see without, nobody legitimated to do so on people against the let me ask her she

and bask in about 5 to of the issue of westbank, i guess on boston. i mean, they've been suggestions that miss young may have accepted this the with i'm us. as a result of some behind the scenes, the of that he's done with trump about the west bank. and we have indeed seen in 10 certification of is really military activity. and, and cetera tax in the occupied westbank since this got a ceasefire deal was done. what is israel plan for the west back? i think we're seeing israel doing in the west bank has been a response to the palestinian authority. actually a couple of weeks ago trying to take control of areas like the janine refugee camp, that some kind of refuge account. this was an attempt to the public standing. the 3210 was the straight to the americans that they are able to take control of gaza, obviously nothing. you know, he and his people didn't want the palestinian authority to succeed. and so they immediately intervened and told the post and, you know,

start to security forces to clear the area. so the piece where the army could go back and nothing, you know, clearly does not want to advance anything that, that looks like a 2 state solution. it, well, the trumpet, ministration for what we know from this public statements is trump, is going to make peace is not going to start more. more trends. eyes are focused on saudi arabia and the saudis, mohammed been sung mine and others, and saudi arabia award dedicated to ensuring palestinian independence than ever before. i think. and i don't believe that we will see saw the red throwing the palestinians under the bus a, as was done in the past a i think the to solve these will remain freedom. they have started this global alliance with the implementation of the 2 state solution headed by conspire, so foreign minister. and they seemed quite dedicated to ensuring that israel before it enjoys any normalization with saudi arabia. we'll have to give in all the palestinian issue. what that means where israel is that nothing you know, and that can not continue to be the leader of in 0. and if there is pressure from

trump on this issue with the saudis, i think we will see the doctor deals, government breaking apart, and israel heading to another round of elections. your satisfaction. i do a very fast. well, i was up to agreeing that to see that new york, we finally leaving the government officer, but i think it's the same for many months. it's been invo supervisor for 30 years over the and by with a he might associated with the public opinion that there was a good scheme. he was able to from government would, by noisy and his own police. and uh, he might assist provide this uh, 15 months of work without reaching i mean we, the 2 in the he scores mean to 30, i'm in terms of the, the rest of the captive. so he's still in 5, we're a, he's a still able to receive some support from his part them from part of the study for police of i don't see the, the, the outcome of these 3 phases of 2 phases or one face of the deal. we mean, that'd be paid and it's on the who knew that they got it. okay,

thank you very much for now. the channels that are, i guess on boston. thank you both i, i look forward to force to continue the discussions with you in the meantime. let's check in with our honey, my move to who was on the phone from guys, a city where the food is really captive. keith siegel is expected to be released from honey. we've been watching pictures, light fixture, some guys, a port there of, uh, uh, fi to is lining up. uh, i imagine waiting for the red cross vehicles to a live uh, talk to us about the scene there and what's been happening or well, this time the release of that 1st top is up to date is happening. i got the feed for this is that location that nobody thought about. nobody expected. it's going to happen here. and what's really cost, you know, are essentially right now if there is more organization, there a better arrangement for safety and security. we're seeing that looper as crowd here. and the fact that we're seeing a list or not is the good news about the location of where the release of going to

happen did not, did not leak in the pop hours. it took us by surprise and we are right soon as they are right here. i don't see more people born into the area with the exception of those already from the vicinity of dollar fee for so there is much better environment right now in terms of security and safety. what is happening? i was thinking as well as the he'd be a military preference of a found. * as a result on the ground are surrounding the area, creating a barrier, a very solid barrier that we, we spoke with one o been trying to give us an app because into the case where we have a better shot about they were very 1st about that. so the, creating this barrier between civilians as well as the phase where the kind over will take a place where minutes away from the visual parents you are live. and this, because we were told, there are god, what, what's known here among mazda shadow,

the shadow, the more the shuttle forces, those who are seen with the, the, in the past months. and now they are responsible for their safety are responsible for them to be delivered to their designated locations, where they will be handed over. and they will be here in back in the coming minutes as we were told, as long down as well as the response here. those are going to be pulling off in this area. this phase right here that is a created by the forces and the n z help us out by the is supposed to be be the password, the be a. so it was these little things all the way to the stage. and off we were also told is shown to be the same exact arrangement of the copy of who happened to be on his really american, your citizenship. he's the golf will be taking the stage as soon as he arrives. we'll be giving the back of the one of the, of the 15 months of everything that he collected. whether it's the right thing,

the memories, uh, it was only the son.