ok, you know, it's very difficult to know what's going to happen with an office of how difficult it is going to be traveling across the west side with the, you know, many check points and work blocks, etc, around towns and villages. laura, thank you for the moment i just one of us to take in these pictures is seen in ramallah in the occupied westbank as promised to be in prison is recently free by israel being welcomed as he rose. i'm fully back to bore our coverage continues next with my colleagues sales on us just listening to what's happening in the. 6 the

if you are just joining us, it is just past 10 g n t that is just past noon local time in ramallah in jerusalem until of eve in gaza. and we have been all morning here following the hostage, the captive release that has been taking place in the gaza strip. and now the release of palestinian prisoners that you're seeing live on your screen in ramallah . so a $183.00 palestinian prisoners are slated to be released today. some of them are being released right now and they are be reunited with their relatives with their loved ones with their families. that some of them have been in this really detention for decades,

that we can speak now to elsa 0. is laura hahn who is covering this from amman, jordan and she is there a force because both is real and the palestinian authority of band house is 0. from reporting within israel and within the occupied westbank. laura for people who are just joining us now. what are we seeing? what do we watching right now? well, today we're seeing the release of a 183 palestinian prisoners. and the many of these that we see on the screen have come from of the present in the occupied westbank office will be released from southern israel, but they are essentially coming back to a hero's welcome. they would jump to in this area known as the junior, at which is a swapping ramallah. they were taken in the red cross vehicles over to the cultural center in ramallah, a big squad with it being free to just actually with the jubilant childs that coming home to a hero's welcome. many of them are even bringing chairs,

so i can see to the boss in order to raise these people above the crowd, say want them to free. they want the wall to see these have a senior presence being released because this issue the, the issue of prisoners pretty strikes the heart of the posting and cools. so they see these people as exciting to that cause pointing to tell them what's been happening to palestinians on the occupation and fighting the occupation. so many of them have given up that lots of being given life sentences, a very long sentences. and many of those are now being released. so of course, to actually given in crowds not just from the family members and friends, but as i said, strikes the hops of palestinians ad across the occupied westbank of height is to respond. and of course, garza and other areas of the policy population across israel as well. so as we're

now seeing out the release into ramallah, they will be greeted with the reception that they will be held up for a few hours actually. so they can celebrates with many other people. we do know at the one person who has some shaheen. one is that there's prisoners, according to so says that been um, speaking to alex sierra. he's going to be taken directly to hospital. he's one of those prisoners because according to them, he had an operation without anesthesia inside to this radius prison and we have had received so many testimonies from these ready presents where people are saying essentially the conditions inside have just been getting so much less since october the 7th, some of those prisoners including product to shut off who was released last week. she was a member of a left wing group in palestine at she's been in and out of prison so many years. and it's a, she'd be able to essentially monitor how people have been treated. she was in

solitary confinement for a number of months, put into administrative detention, which is this arbitrary detention way. you can remain that for indefinite periods without charge or trial interested. it's also a policy of people being held in select tree confinements where they can't mix with all the prisoners. but the main just to the story from so many of these people is the conditions that the coming into main that be coming up. so the, the livable inside these is ready, prison. so they say that so that being really, you know, punished. i asked the dual continued on and gaza, but you can see here, this is a moment of real joy for policy means laura, is we take this in, have all 183, tell us the prisoner's been released, or does this happen in stages?

that so it does usually happen insights as we'll see the uh the, the presence being released from also present usually together that is in the occupied west side. and then separately they'll be released from prison which is in southern israel. and we know many of those will hold these, the people from the casa who will then be released into a back in 2211, if those out have been released. that has been detained since october, the 7th since 2023. since the beginning of the war in garza, we also know that 7 of those people are going to be deployed to be held in egypt for a time to live 48 hours with us and be taken in by countries including at to p. a. l. chariots and to dizzy i so it's, it's likely that family members will be watching in egypt. as we've seen these scenes playing out before, whatever you have to break out those people that they use the people that israel

considered to be too dangerous. they also think like sentences or multiple life sentences. so they're the ones essentially who are going to be the postage and we know that they're all set. so sick. so those are the stages. but we've, we've just received in the occupied website, people release to get out what it does, it does essentially go into those crowns to be celebrates as of the hours before they can eventually go home more about these deportations. my understanding is that uh, 2 days ago on thursday, so a number of palestinian prisoners were released were indeed meant to be sent to egypt. but the reporting from our correspondence in the west bank is a big party and gauze that was that they were actually sent to got it. and i don't know what's become of them since have you have you heard anything along those lines because there have been some inconsistencies. uh, you know, in between the, the, the, my new should, the details of the deal is it's been announced and then what actually happens, what actually transpires on the day of the

we didn't have a huge amount of information in about precisely where they went. we know that over the weeks, many of those people have been greeted in, out at, in egypt by family members. that have been report that many of those have been sent to gaza among much criticism. but i haven't yet been able to verify the number of days out and sent to kansas, so we will get back to you with those numbers once we have them. or we're looking at these pictures for anyone. joining us right now. this is all happening live in ramallah. now remember the moment that we're, the 3 is really captives were released moments ago from the gaza strip after 483 days in captivity. and in exchange for their

release, 183 palestinian prisoners were slated to also be released from this really jails today. and that is what we're seeing now. some of them are not all we believe, but some of them have been released to being held either in offer prison, which is in the occupied westbank or caps yonce as laura was reporting just now. and the, the, the process of this is that they are released from prison. they are put onto the buttons, the buses, those white buses that you see, the i, c, r c. that's the international committee of the red cross. and they are driven to ramallah. that's the scene that you are seeing now now of the 183111 are supposed to be sent back to gauze. the reason being that they were captured and taken in gaza since october 7th, 2023. they were among the palestinians, were taking him guys, so they should be sent back the guys to ask for the deal. all of this is unfolding

. ask for the terms of a deal that was negotiated between israel and homos over a prolonged period of time. we know that the negotiations broke down way more often than they actually succeeded. but what we're seeing today is the result of a successful negotiation that was mediated by the us, by egypt, by guitar. that happens in 3 phases. and right now we're not quite in the middle of phase one. phase one is 6 weeks long, 42 days it will end on march 1st. and that phase one will see the release of 33 is really captives in exchange for roughly 1900 palestinian prisoners. this is supposed to take place every saturday. now, there was a change to the plan recently this week because we saw what we're seeing now is not the 1st release. this week we saw our release of is really captive and

palestinian prisoners on thursday. these are the latest pictures coming to us from ramallah for palestinian prisoners are being released from is really jails to their relatives to their families. some have been and is really detention for decades. let's speak to henri goldberg is really political commentator. joining us from tel aviv worry, i'm curious to know from you, how is riley's worth taking in all of this footage? first of all, what they're seeing and what they're not seeing, they would have seen, i assume the but i'm sure in fact they would have seen the release of the as really captives from gaza. i don't know if they're seeing what we're seeing now, which is the release of the palestinian prisoners a no, they're not the, the release of the same prisoners, certainly not covered by uh, it's just mainstream media. and you just spoke at length about how it is rarely

policy to try and uh, silence and suppress as much as possible. uh, these things are celebration at the release of palestinian prisoners. uh, is that a street or at least a 1000 prisoners as data. and they're certainly not exposed to nearly any of the, the human interest side because of this release. and effectively they're releasing only in terms of a tactical balance. what we lost in order to bring our hostages back 3, i understand these really army is actually drop leaflets in the occupied westbank warning against shows of support for hamas. and i would add for, for the benefit of yours and for context that this is absolutely align with what they've done during previous releases of palestinian prisoners. they want to see no celebration. that's true. and i think it's a good indication of the inherently weak position, which is,

are all finds itself. it is releasing these prisoners. it's obviously a great victory for from us. the only thing that is less, the only aspect of assertion is or has less, is to do whatever it can to present images of celebration as though that in any way it changes the fact that these prisoners are released so far as early is certainly for officially as of the battle is about uh, supposedly narrative, but we're not even in control of the narrative. all is all can do is obstruct enough to say and share with us. how is relays are responding to this footage. this 4th release of is really captives from the gaza strip as well uh on thursdays release. when uh this on a jihad released to captives at health and they walk through

a strong p fall accompanied by armed body guards. those funds, those. this was a lynch job and it was lucky the lives of the hostages for stared. and this proves that everybody that there are no innocent bystanders and guys, everybody is a service. today when uh, the hostages were handed over an orderly fashion. and there were no thrones or people and everything went very smoothly. the general response was the come us told the month to stay back. and the mob did that means that doesn't all support from us . they didn't support from us, they would resist the financial order. if they all support from us and thousands are all terrorist, same conclusion, opposite images that tells me that these early public is confused full of despair and frustration. it understands that 15 months of, of war have resulted in absolutely nothing. and it is, it is resorting to the maxims the drove is all campaign in gaza during this 1st

months. and that is, you know, we just have to get them all again as far as i understand it. this is a demonstration of reasoning, some confusion and frustration, not any sort of preparation for a resumption, but so, and if we step away from the footage from the immediate reaction to the footage, whether it's today's footage or the the, the release on thursday. how does this really society feel about where they are broadly which is the ceasefire deal in phases that could if it follows through till, till its conclusion and the war it is rarely society feels let's say the opposite of triumphant regard to its position right now because uh, as early as of all political stripes, mo, most of them have been defining the return of the hostages is the minimum

upholding of the contract between the state. and it's right, that is the bare minimum protecting citizens, getting them back when they months. and these are the societies ranking up to the fact that if, as far as a, an unprecedented campaign in gaza and across some of the lease and whether it has ended of achieving under conditions that were dictated. israel is exactly that there. mean, nothing has been achieved. there's a lot of frustration. if your viewers expect jubilation is a lot of sense of a job well done. in many ways, it's the opposite. there's a lot of joy as the individual return of these all suggest that there's also much more sadness and the very, very frustration on understanding that nothing is set up to do. it is actually succeeded in doing. do they want to complete the ceasefire? deal all 3 phases, the end, the war, release, all the captives, dead and alive and,

and draw a line onto this. or do they want to resume. busy writing after phase one. so there are those who are talking about resume inciting, but their vice grows weaker and weaker every day. as early as want to end the war as early as want to return all the hostages. they don't want to end the war because they. ready looking for peace of, for any kind of, even mid term, certainly not long term resolution as early as now. don't believe that we have a partner on the other side and, you know, in a lot of ways the right. so is at least one to work and not because they are concerned about the genocide and its effects. they want the war to end. because after even after 15 months of continuous spins and the social propaganda, this war can no longer be passed off even remotely as a success, it's very clear to as early as the israel has failed. and this clarity is not a pleasant sensation obviously. but i think

a lot of these are these looking by the way, the adverse effects of this for on his early lice. a lot of his riley's has now realized that the continuation of this war is something they simply cannot accept for the most selfish of reasons and purposes. it's not about peace, it's about an almost primal desire to regain some sense of life is 0 is not very lively at this time. so already i'm, i'm trying to sort of process everything you're telling us. so broadly speaking, in your view is really feel that this war has failed because they haven't achieved their work goals. they see how mazda is still in power. so they don't want to continue the war. and they, they also don't believe in peace. so what do, what do they want or what do they see as a possible medium term future just to return to pre october 7 me that they don't see a medium medium term future. what they want is rest. if they want this to stock,

they want the hostages to return, they want israel to adopt the semblance of normalcy. there is absolutely no prep the. ready ocean and no fod going into what happens once the steel is complete, except for what is a what is, are calling an end to the war? absolutely, nothing about reconstruction of guys. absolutely. nothing about negotiating with anybody. i want to assume that if the trump administration tries to source a deal many as early as we'll adopt that narrative at a grand bargain, this is being put in place. and it is a once again find this place in the middle east. but as far as the personal sensations with most of jerry's go, nobody is thinking about a future here. in many ways, we have a store gone. our worthiness of the future. we're thinking about the war ending. that's as far as we can see. and even that is too far for a lot of the service or you've done a, you've done a great job of explaining,

and i thank you for that. how is really feel at this moment? so now how does this, how is this going to intersect with politics? right, you've told us how people feel, but the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, most of this rests on his shoulders. most of this is going to be decided by what he wants or feels he has to do next. so how is he looking at this moment to the i think it's a very info. ready question, and while i think if you would ask of a cross section of this, at least you may get a sense that and it's and you know, is on his way out. he may very well be on his way out. he is not well in health terms, he has had family troubles over the past months and certainly a lot of is early, so late and personally. but there is another side to disagree. and that side is that nothing you know is the only prime minister. many is early is now living, has a consciously now even if there was a about a year and

a half when he was not in power. and it's, and you know, is seen by many as early as the whole. ready package, if he delivers this deal, if he follows the steel through to the making it seem laborious and difficult, and complaining and obstructing, and doing everything he can to, to make it seem belabored. but if he reaches the end of this, the of the nothing out will be the whole package. he will be the prime minister, her father unnecessary war but who also completed the necessary deal. and what assumes an election will be called in israel over the next 6 months to year in that election, all of that. and you know, as potential competitors don't measure up even remotely in terms of the, in the whole package. and most of them agree with his policies fighting the war and just about him, none of them can actually oppose him on the merits as the steel accepts, perhaps for the populace far. right. so i want to know is not like, not trusted. while the responsibility for this rest on his shoulders,

there is still, i think, a very good chance that he might emerge the winner of an election that is called should his government fall when the religious right leave, that after the war does not resume in 6 weeks right, yeah, that's a very important part of the analysis. i think that you're bringing to us, which is that. yeah. who don't popular, but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't win again if there were an election. sometime in the medium term median in the near took a. as you said, remember that these are, these are not looking to the future. they're not bringing questions of, you know, rational analysis, sense of the pictures is always, are collected as early knows are completely free, is are, these are emotional as early as are frustrated. is that is are looking for an authority figure that may be seen as somebody who's capable of going the distance at this moment within the hour is the only one who has gone the distance already. goldberg and it's really political commentator. you're joining us from televi.

thank you very much for your analysis and insights this our so now what we have been looking at uh has been the pictures coming out of ramallah, where palestinian prisoners have been released today. this is part of a phase deal that is seeing the release of is really captive, as we saw that earlier this morning in the gaza is really captives that were held by how much and other groups in the strip, in exchange for the release of palestinian prisoners now today sees the release of $183.00 palestinian prisoners if some of them will be deported. those are prisoners, the israel deems present a higher in israel's, you national security risk. a 111 are being sent back to gaza because that is where they were taken. c captured and been detained and is really prisoners for taken from gaza since the start of the, the war on october 7th, 2023. so that's what we're looking at now. palace and the other policy and

prisoners are being returned to ramallah. that's where they're seeing their meeting right now. you see this, the, their relatives, their loved ones, who in some cases have not seen them for decades. i do want to run you through this deal. it's, it's in phases. it's rather complex and we're following it step by step. so let's take a closer look at the 1st stage, the one that we're in now of the ceasefire deal. this will last for 42 days. so far a mouse is released, 13 is really captives held in gaza and 5 pine nationals. under this agreement, $33.00 captives including women, children and men aged about 50 will be freed. but israel has confirmed that 8 of those captives are dead. in total, nearly 2000 palestinian prisoners will be free during the 1st phase of the agreement, which takes us to march 1st. $608.00 trucks including 50 carrying fuel or meant to enter gauze every day. and towards the end of the 1st space is really troops are

set to pull out from areas in the northern and southern. got so well, joining me here to discuss this and this do here is uh lets see i know a 2nd associate professor that guitar university. and so 10 barracka professor of public policy at home, i've been felicia university. thank you very much gentlemen to both of you from for being with us we. we spoke with so many times in the $484.00 days. right. so that separate us from when from, from october 7th and so time. how do you feel and listen, i want to hear the same from you, but how do you feel when you look at this footage today of palestinian prisoners being released from is really just well. first and foremost, i think this could have been done back in may, and i feel sad didn't that we missed that opportunity to then may 20, 24 may, may 2020 for us. that could have saved so many lives. it could have maybe given a very different political discourse, even for the whole thing. the fact that it was delayed until now a is a, is

a real shame to be on those on all sides. an alternative, sometimes perhaps you say may, that's because that is when the us present the the venue as president job i was there is a deal that he said with israel's deal. yes. as well then said no, we knew nothing about it. but more importantly, he took it to the security council on the 10th of june. there's a security council resolution that cemented the deal, but also the potential outcome of it, including the end of occupation of the policy and to change that they have to those ratings needs to withdrawal. now the she ocean just to finish that thought that deal was pretty much the same as the deal is being implemented now. pretty much the same except that the data implemented that was made slightly more vague in order to cause it across the line for them to i agree on the 15th of, of january including things like and where does this dr. woodrow to when does is our withdrawal, how many prisoners, the pro 5 of the businesses on that with the less it's, it's good that it is happening and i think it,

it gives us hope that the stage 2 will continue. according to the time i, we know that there will start negotiating very, very soon in a couple of days and hopefully it will lead to the end of conflict. but most importantly, tester need to a permanent solution of this issue. and for that to happen is that has got to accept the end of occupation. what this shows is the morality of the whole process. and when you look at these process is coming out this spend decades in prison, many of them were arbitrary and rounded up. some may have been, so is really course, according to is really low captured by his riley's accused by his writers. all his old one sided and they'd been in prison for, for decades, as you can see, the from the way they look how frail they are and how badly they've been treated. and the whole injustice of probation is being demonstrated in front of us. and clearly it has got to come to an end. if israel were to regain some of the more

ground, even over the last 14 months, they've dropped from being able to portray themselves as the only democracy in the world. the. they have always been tomorrow, a place is address. now that you know they're being pursued in courts as was coming or coming out as a full for and as we had from other areas because the population is totally d motorized. as a result of these for 2 months or more. so something is going to happen. and i hope that as they moving to stage 2, they don't just keep talking about gods mediates he's right and goes, it has we have to branch out to talk about sort of the you said a permanent solution. i wrote this down because i want to come back to it and then whether that really is feasible at this point. but before we do, let's see, i know your thoughts and everything we've seen today. one more list i subscribe was when he says, i think that all these 15 months are for brook again,

they show it to the states to the main station were white with the slight change of public opinion to what's a, what is going on in gus had to on the sound of this idea of a patient of and i thought of the 5 by this time is unfair, needs to be solved and this will be provide the find out a solution. the problem is that after this fixed and we are moving them to the situation, then 15 months, a go, a conceding, that thing that i need to prove that they were not able to do anything at to stop to or to make this deal to be comply with a long time ago, as he said in may, we had never settle in june. we have the resolution of the nation. so good to go. so nothing happened by the housing pressure and, and if i knew who for the whole time, nothing happened. and now we have a pressing that is not in line with a comply with that i saw that come in at the end of the do you want to go to the council, nor they to see. i see. so eh, looking for what to do a final solution for these continued and the 2 state solution or,

or something seem after that, i don't think we're going to see that in the, in the short time model. but i can see that you need them. that's fine. yeah, who's in february and if it were that in north time, that seems to be engaged in these kinds of solutions. but this is, this might be a good time for a reminder of yours that israel has actually outlawed palestinian state. or, i mean, i know laws can change laws can be reverse, the laws can be passed, but at least that reflects where is really politics are right now. they passed the law some months ago, last year in 2024 outlying uh that was city and state. so you're both, you're both raising the central issue of force, which is a permanent solution. and that's where it's really politics are right now. and that question will get back to it though i have to table this for a moment. it's been more than 2 hours now since the 3rd is really captive being held in guys and we've been hand it has been handed over to the red cross. american is really national, keeps single, appeared on stage and gaza city along with homos spiders in a public display of his release. he was then handed over to red cross staff.