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korea, continues this weapons program. and the process for a new frame has base you fees over due to a conflict with was reshaping, globe and alliances for 2025. the attorney following for you to go to see, or we more come face to atomic weapons to secure that into us. the i a to back to general law fan mariano garcia. tools once a 0 the money out to go see, because i said, you know, the international atomic energy agency. thank you for talking to us as here. you have presented been to iran on the right, you know, special set that they were willing to hold expansion of best, all 5 of highly enriched uranium. have they delivered on that particular point? us to you? that was part of our process. part of our conversation was my 1st street not to be around. i've been there many times,
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but with the new administration met with president possession with foreign minister about. so i g, bice minister, i mean to 5 whole lot of people. and as part of that conversation, i invited them to consider this as, as a measure that could project some confidence in the indicate in a concrete way their, their readiness to take seriously. the concern is that exist out there about this specific activity which we use that to are in reaching you re new method. busy the very high level, 90 percent is the meaning teddy. so they agreed of the agreed and they implemented it or be it for. ready a few days because as a result of every solution that was adopted by the board of governors of the at they decided that they. ready would not continue with this voluntary measure that
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they had agreed to implement at, at my request. so you, it'd be elegy into a suicide. there was a short leaved measure, but it indicated, at least to me at that time that they were listening that they were paying attention to my indications that this activity is an activity that it's, it's not a red. ready tables, they are the only ones in the world, apart from the countries that do have nuclear weapons. so that the concern is that exist, did you give me concerns? and that happened at that time. we evaluated that it would be a good gesture of to my 1st to them. so i appreciate the fact that they listen to me. but of course the process continued its own logic. and of course, i don't take issue with countries wanting to censor or not around. this is a matter of full member states to decide what they do. and there were other other
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cuz he races, but i'm still answering your questions. this was the situation around this to get because there was a moment where they said they were very frustrated over one of the reports the was issued by the i a and the said that they were going talk to bait new advance center features, particularly in photo and not times if i may correct to you. mm hm. their, their frustration was not on my report, although they don't necessarily like their reports. but i'm on this particular occasion was at the adoption off the rest solution. exactly. which was sensory and you're on and saying that you're on should could corporate with me with the agency and cetera. so that they, they took this as a solo pop reply or be 30 ish. so it's a 2 this measure that they considered incorrect. you said that yvonne now has about 200 kilograms of you being in rich to near bum. great, give us
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a sense of what does that mean? but that means that they have a need to have the amount which would be necessary to uh. ready to the development of a war, but i have to be very clear not to confuse your audience here. they do not have no idea what this and from that to move to the step where or for to the page where they would have an operational or head that the would still be a number of technical steps. some of them quite complex that should have to be to be taken. so we need to be objective. this is a serious matter. having the material is a huge step in the direction in that direction. that is of concern. but that doesn't mean that they are there because bits of those solve the statement
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and in a different way that they are expanding, that usually the capabilities that they are producing in which we ring them up based boss. the that was assumed a number 3 that they can easily move from a 60 percent purity over the rest. rearrange in to 90, not in the center within. yes, but less of the event. but that is correct. what the issue is that to, to have, i will head you. i mean it's not enough to have a in reach, right? and you do, you have to do certain things. you have to have a middle life form of uranium. you have to have dates of nature, so you have to have a number of things to that very complex that go with the side. i will head to say, well, i haven't, well, then maybe test it or not. so there is a base of segment that is there to be it to be filled if you want a gap. so it is an activity of concern having looked at
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material above the level of enrichment where no one is, is doing that. it's also operate a signal and you run knows that the i a and yvonne have always had a stream late. i would say how i would put it difficult, but then it gets the relationship in terms of that was the case of the price of the view rainy. i mean unto class size restrictions, what are the expenses? do you think it is about time to reconsider the type of relationship that the your agency should have with it? what we would need to keep is fisting that they give us the necessary cooperation. it's our mission. our mission is to make sure that there is no party for ation of nuclear weapons and when we see them approaching a red line or. ready something that requires explanation. we have to say it, as we know you're right. you're saying that these leads to
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a relationship that is not always so easy. you may have seen them criticizing the very, you know, serious me and have taking issue with any of the things. i say it is my obligation as anything as what i say we are the only ones they are. you know, people are speculating, people are, are making all sorts of scenarios. what do they have, what would they have? what is going to happen when he is going to happen? the reality at the end of the day is that, but monday to him, you know, and given to us by the international community, by the treaty, a number of ration by the agreements between iran and the agency. we are there was on site inspecting going to all the facilities, almost the so we, we have a pretty good view of forties there anymore topic up every day. but the issues of different issues have to do. so you mentioned also with the lack of clarity, with explanations about things that happened and should not have happened. finding
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your a new traces in places that were suppose not to host any their activity, for example. so place these material, where is the equipment that was used or, and is showing us there are sent increase production capabilities and other things that are very relevant and we have in the future in, in, in a future perspective, more then on a past perspective. so basically it was a relationship based on a monitoring regime put into place, then followed by international sections led by the united states as the terms of breaches of that protocol. but do think that the concept itself is efficient and could eventually lead to the prevention of nuclear proliferation, particularly a spot as he brought his consent meetings. you remember perhaps about a year and a half ago, there was a moment where, where we detected enrichment at almost 90 percent and we saw it immediately.
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afterwards we had a technical conversation with their route and they explained that there was an installation date as being a c lation or not. we saw it, we slowly to media. so that the, the inspection regime, the tools that our inspectors have are extremely um, i would say, rely at extremely sharp in detecting these kinds of things. that the issue here is more the scope, what we can see and what we believe we have not seen more than the inspection itself. we know that given the time of the space, or for example of these issues i was mentioning to you, you mentioned to be this, tracy. so if you rate him, you know, we are able, with our method,
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some techniques that we have to discover whether in this place where we have seating that was something 50 years, the site. and then the, the color use that we have on the are so will and home that they are. busy to allow us to say, to see what kind of isotope of the rain that was, what is the probable or as you know, that etc, etc. so this is why it's very efficient. that doesn't mean that is enough. when you cannot see all the places that you would like to see, or that you are barred from seeing something because of one reason of the what happens next in iran is something that could ultimately be defined as by the trump administration. and one of the key allies of donald trump, senator lindsey graham said recently that the americans should use force to
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stop or to prevent that your body is from acquiring a nuclear capabilities. do you have any concerns that we're looking to was more competition? but i think of course, i'm the head of an international organization that is there to preserve international peace and security. so we are always, we're doing what we're doing. and we are being as demanding as we are. because we know that by giving confidence, by allowing us to tell the world what is happening, the pro, but be all the usual force diminishes. so this is the political game that is being played here. some may believe that the use of kinetic force is the answer. what we are saying is, if we are allowed to inspect in the way, with the scope, with the depth and breadth that we want, and we would have charged you, and we thought the guy deep,
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hopefully the perceived need to do something. you do that truly concrete but tv. ready violent will decrease the 2015 agreement which way around. and the us and the other 6 nations was widely seen as a big through that could be very helpful to you, to the inspectors on the ground and could be conducive of the ultimately to if payment is supplement. but you said that you don't think that the 2015 deal fits the purpose and it's gone for today. yeah. today, why 20? 15 was 2015. we're talking about a ticket. the code seems incredible. it's been used to do this 10 years. any particular since 2018 the nuclear program in your on has grown exponentially. you know,
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risk not only quantitatively pointed to the s one. so now they have more advance centrifuges. so you need much less centrifuge just to, to go to the amount of time and reach uranium that they want faster have. so one, they have also a couple of easy in other areas which make these phones agreement, obsolete. so this is why i say uh, jp a uh, was what it was. let bygones be bygones. i mean, yeah. today is that, is that and to show me nobody has the k that. but is that what we need to do, or we try, we must try to do, and i hope that states can come to this conclusion at, at with us helping them. because we are the guarantors that the, those who are verifying that we have something that covers what needs to be covered
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and what needs to be covered has changed from that time. so they just don't put it because when i say these things, it's not a political, just purely technical is truly technical. that it could trigger the backlash from the wrong hands because under 2015, the deal was basically based on this whole notion of limiting the bonds used to 5000 old centrifuges. and that the best ones would be just purely for research purposes. you think this is now obsolete relevant company at that time? they did, they didn't even have these ultra centrifuge use that they have not, they were testing them now. they have a, i don't want to get to the technical, but that the, the 1st centrifuges were higher ones that they have for 2 and 6 is to, i mean, catalog and they, they have very powerful much it's, i saw them. i, i, although i have by inspectors, i think it's important to see that i requested doing this last visit that you were mentioning. i went to the photo and not on sunday. could see the holes where the
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centrifuges are had. and of course, they are state of the art and they are, they, if they perform the 2015 agreement is basically also based on the notion that you place restrictions of the amount of that material to invest, remain in the, the, how does this look fine, you control the level of purity and the number of times of a subdivision is put into place. is this still a valid point or do you think this has to be be events that if you are ever with the look of, did you agree that the loss would be the same? philosophy would be you, you, you look up certain technologies, you a check, what is happening have in return for that iran gets incentives sanction, lifting it, etc. so it's that there's an indian this. busy the, the basic idea would be the same thing. here is what,
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what, what, what, that, what are the contents of the rest of the be, what are you going to put there? what are you going to be checking? what are you going to be controlling? what weight vice president july 31st for us is to strategic issue said that the iranians, if they wanted to acquire nuclear capabilities, they would have done so long time ago. and that even the withdrawal of the american trump from the agreement has helped me in a way to expand the nuclear capable. it is how do you respond to that? but i think it's a fact. i don't know. the 1st part is up by your judgement. it's something that i would not have an opinion on what the vice president is that he's said. but the 2nd thing, it's to the defense that the program has grown as of the cost. will that mean that is also a matter of interpretation. some say each because gpa was abandoned to, to mit interpretation. i would rather stay away from, you know,
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say why these happen over this effect. this is a fact debates you have much bigger, more and vicious, very, very important know care program that you need to monitor or have to verify in a, in a different way. how do you in a position of the i a a to work out way in advance the breakout time for the irradiance to be able to produce nuclear. what fuel is it is i'm not of this month. it's not a long time. but again, let me reiterate to me because then what i say can be me center students, and i think we are here to provide, try to confuse people. one thing is to have these material, having the material ready, it's a huge step. but then the other things that they would, you know,
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hypothetical world where they would decide to go down the wrote that they would have to, to fulfill in order to get to get a nuclear weapons. but it would be an extremely concerning step, an extremely concerning step. let's move to another subject which is north korea. why does it extend now in terms of its capability? korea is the mirror of what we need to avoid in the case of your rock. because korea, we'd korea, if you want that nitro, that peta because, i mean, it's useful for people to understand the case of good yet. we have like, what we're having with yeah, we have long processes. we had incentives, we even had a small international organization kito that was created to channel assistance to north korea, which was considered for phones. but he was also no good technology civilian nuclear technology in the understanding that this would appease the
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desire of the most korean government to. ready to go in that way and as a result of that, the i e was inspecting, and then they were there were caught red handed. so they decided to throw everything, you know, i window and, and we are what we are. so today, go back to me. the, the question of the d. b, a k has an important nuclear arsenal to test it, they test it 6 times. there's indications that they might be preparing another test, but actually they have an operational and relatively reliable nuclear arsenal. they have to be filed, the ballistic nissan capabilities to put these war hits on and make this a nuclear cup of any d operation of and are real and a real threat. and on top of that, i think what has it was either that they have been without any external
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contact or relationship when he comes to today's for, for a very long time. i mean the last time i. yep. and i used specter was there was in 2009. exactly. right. so it's a long time and i hope there could be at some point summary engagement with them. oh, although one must say it will be a different kind of free engagement. and we would have to see other which conditions, but this is a matter for the countries for states to there would be a negotiation of that depends on wider bodycote considerations that would have to apply. they've been expanding the uranium enrichment at young beyond facility at the time being is that the light image or the only source that you how to try to establish what is happening on the glass? yeah, but that allows us to, to have a very good impression of what happens that don't forget that we were there before and we know the type of facilities they have. so these allows are experts to
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computer modeling and calculations to have a very, very adequate and impression of what they have the amounts and the activities there. and of course, these are signature that you can see through satellite imagery when you look up the page. so the tests that they have conducted to could be comes to the variety of balance that occurs besides, they say, they says this is the question for the national sovereignty. and to come to any spots, particularly from the, uh, the usa. and he's like, do you have any concerns that we moving towards a collision course between north korea for us? this is a wider issue and, and it'd be beyond the task of the mistake. but what is relevant to these regard is that these nuclear capability of exists and company projected so that makes it a real. ready factor that needs to be considered as a real factor. there's been many of uses by the us to trying to cub
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north korea's nuclear program. some of those resolutions, but lots particularly by russia and china is, is something that could undermine your efforts in the near future. so try to obtain what i would, right, what i would say is that the alteration of the dynamics within the united nations security council, particular amount of the 5 permanent members of the security council affects any activity in this area. because from the moment you have disagreements among themselves, perhaps from caused by external situations that may have to do with other geostrategic theaters. then of course, without the unanimity, let me put it that way and this applies to you around and everything else. the unanimity of the 5 permanent members of the united nations security council is absolutely indispensable to sustain the non proliferation regime. if the
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cracks in that area, then he's going to be very, very difficult for, for me as a guarantor of the integrity of the n b d to do my job in another area which is on your radar screen. ukraine. well, she, how business as many times the 1022, there's been administer activity near the nuclear power plant. and is this a major safety concern for you? what it is, in the sense that now we have talking, you're mentioning a new cap, our plan, which is within the grading in control territory. not talking about separate asian over the balcony, which is not gonna help you by territory. so here that has. ready and we have been repeating that nothing should be done that might affect the integrity and the safety of a nuclear power plant. in this case, it has to do mainly with the power lines that feed the they said
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no cap, our station which forest or made the ukrainian regulator toward the decreasing the capacity of that for safety. precautionary mentioned, but of course everything that has to do with the new care power plant for us, whatever it is he's about to are concerned. couple of these yet. it's never forget is on the front. so is as exposed as can be then. so until the conflict enters a new face, whichever. busy whichever way you define a new face before that song has various military dvd and then safety will not be guaranteed. when you travel as well to convince people of a need to prevent proliferation of nuclear weapons, a nuclear activities, what would be run? so to people who would say the nuclear weapons of an issue of national pride,
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if the of the others have it, we should also help at a time. so increased international attention sadly. but it's a reality is 2nd, thoughts of the word in certain regions. the opinion of new go with those as increased. this is have a negative thing. we would like to go with those to decrease and eventually once they disappear, i'm so concerned when i see an open discussion about these countries, important countries regional powers that are up to now in very good standing with their obligations visa media, d simple english, abstaining from getting nuclear weapons, although they could happen if they so decided what are some of them are said, what if, for example,
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the c patient end of the least the very separately for ation case in the middle east and i need a country. iran for example, gets a new grow up and then we will have to reconsider. and perhaps the moment we had come, we'd have come to say that we need them to. and the, the, the, the probability of complete and problem of the new care nonproliferation regime, which the optional has been serving us pretty well. it's very, very high. there's also concern about about plants which generate power for, for people to civilian purposes. do you think of this particular because a small and wanted to react to us? all of those we have still in the design and development stage could be the alternative that could be conducive to a long, protracted at phase of a of piece. and the question is, is very relevant because many people asked me sometimes. yeah, you don't all these ideas, promise hospice, small motors or reactors cheaper,
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easier to deploy, shorter construction times, etc. so this is going to be very appealing for many countries in developing worlds . maybe countries that do not have the institutional, regulatory capacity, etc, to the and my answer to that is very clear. the idea would always be there. there's no, it, there's the cypress ability that a country which is within the international order. he's going to have a nuclear power plant and seem to operate it. you know, without us being there to expect profit and mariano go see direct to the general, the international atomic energy agency. thank you very much into football controls as you are with the, a february on as jersey, 3 years on from the outbreak of the war in ukraine. i'll just view it explores the
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