the impact of war is so much more than just emissions from tanks ships and we'll find more than will say it has a devastating effect on people. and the the department of defense is emissions is as large as many countries. every time ministry spent and increases military emissions increased and this war and this kind of christ, all hail the product on a jersey to the the international atomic energy agency was created to put the peaceful use of nuclear energy and prevent the spread of nuclear weapons. in 2 days, well that's mission of these to be in paddle the nuclear deal with iran remains to north korea continues this weapons program. and for us as well in ukraine has base you fees over due to a conflict with was reciting,

globe and alliances. good. 2025. the attorney phones for nuclear diplomacy or we more come face to atomic weapons to secure that. and to us the i a to back to general law fan mariano. go see tools once as you the money out to go see, cuz i said, you know, the international atomic energy agency. thank you for talking to us as you know, you have presented been to get run on the running a special set that they were willing to hold expansion of that stop by and of highly invest uranium, have they deliver on that particular products to you? that was part of our process. part of our conversation was my 1st street not to be around. i'd been there many times, but with a new administration met with president possession with foreign minister about the g. bice minister, i mean, is a whole lot of people. and as part of that conversation,

i invited them to consider this as a, as a measure that could predict some confidence that the indicate, you know, in a concrete way their, their readiness to take seriously. the concern is that exist out there about this specific activity which we use the to enriching uranium at the very, very high level. 90 percent is the meaning tiny level. they agreed of the agreed and they implemented it or be it for. ready a few days because as a result of every solution that was adopted by the board of governors of the at they decided that they. ready would not continue with this voluntary measure that they had agreed to implement at, at my request. so you, it'd be energy into a suicide. there was a short leaved measure, but it indicated,

at least to me at that time, that they were listening that they were paying attention to my indications that this activity is an activity that it's, it's not a relevant to those. they are the only ones in the world, apart from the countries that do have nuclear weapons. so that the concerns that exist did you give me concerns and that, and at that time we evaluated that it would be a good gesture after my 1st tape them. so i appreciate the fact that they listen to be, but of course the process continued the dates on logic. and of course i don't take issue with countries wanting to censor or not iraq. this is a matter of full member states to decide what they do, and there were other other cuz he races, but i've seen answering your question. so this was the situation around this to get because there was a moment when they said they were very frustrated over one of the reports the was

issued by the i a and the said that they were going talk to bait new advance center features, particularly in photo and not times if i made correct q me their, their frustration was not on my report, although they don't necessarily like their reports. but i'm on this particular occasion was at the adoption off the rest solution. exactly which was sensory and you're on and saying that you're on should, can cooperate with me with the agency and cetera. so that they, they took this as a sort of bob reply or be 30 ish. so it's a 2 piece measure that they considered incorrect. you said that yvonne now has about 200 kilograms of you bringing in rich to nip them. great. give us a sense of what does that mean? that means that they are being the to have the amount which would be necessary to uh. ready to the development of a war,

but i have to be very clear not to confuse your audience here. they do not have no idea what this and from that to move to the step where or for to the page where they would have an operational or head that the would still be a number of technical steps. some of them quite complex that should have to be to be taken. so we need to be objective. this is a serious matter. having the material is a huge step in the direction in that direction. that is of concern. but that doesn't mean that they are there because because of those solve the statement and in a different way that they are expanding, that usually a capabilities that they are producing in which we bring them up based boss. the

then was assumed a number 3 that they can easily move from a 60 percent purity over the restroom, uranium to 90. not in the center within. yes, but less of that. but that is correct. what the issue is that to, to have, i will head you. i mean it's not enough to have a in reach rate and you do, you have to do certain things. you have to have a middle life form of uranium. you have to have dates of nature, so you have to have a number of things to that very complex that go with the side. i will head to say, well, i haven't what then maybe test it or not. so there is a base of segment that is there to be it to be filled if you want a gap. so it is an activity of concern having looked at material above the level of enrichment where no one is, is doing that is also, i believe, a signal and you run knows that the i a and yvonne have always had

a stream late. i would say how i would put it difficult for delegates relationship in terms of that was the case of the case of the view rainy. i mean underclass size restrictions, what are the expenses? do you think it is about time to consider the type of relationship that the your agency should have with it? what we would need to get is this thing that they give us the necessary cooperation . it's our mission. our mission is to make sure that there is no party for ation of nuclear weapons and when we see them approaching a red line or. ready something that requires explanation. we have to say it as we know and you are right. you saying that these leads to a relationship that is not always so easy. you may have seen them criticizing the very, you know, seriously and have taking issue with any of the things. i say it is my organization

as an international. i say we are the only ones they are. you know, people are speculating, people are, are making all sorts of scenarios. what do they have, what would they have? what is going to happen when he is going to happen? the reality at the end of the day is that the monday to him, you know, and given to us by the international community, by to treat you a number of ration by the agreements between iran and the agency. we are there was on site inspecting, going to all the facilities, almost a so we, we have a pretty good view of 40. is there any more topic up every day? but the issues of different issues have to do. so you mentioned also with the lack of clarity, with explanations about things that happened and should not have happened. finding your writing and traces in places that were supposed not to host any their activity, for example. so place these material ways, the equipment that was used or,

and showing us there are centrifuge production compatibility. these and other things that are very relevant and we'd have a future in, in, in a future perspective. more then on a past perspective. so basically it was a relationship based on a monitoring machine put into place, then followed by international sections led by the united states as the terms of breaches of that protocol. but do think that the concept itself is efficient and could eventually lead to the prevention of nuclear phone information, particularly as far as the event is concerned. i think you remember perhaps about a year and a half ago, there was a moment where, where we detected in richmond at almost 90 percent. we saw it immediately. afterwards we had a technical conversation with the route and they explained that there was an installation. the 8 as being

a c nation or not. we saw it. we saw he to media. so that the, the inspection regime, the tools that are inspectors have are extremely um, i would say rely at extreme sharp in detecting these kinds of things. that the issue here is more the scope, what we can see and what we believe we have not seen more than the inspection itself. we know that given the time of the space, or for example of these issues i was mentioning to you and you, you mentioned to be this tracy. so if you rate him, you know, we are able, with our method, some techniques that we have to discover whether in this place where we have seating that was something 50 years,

the site. and then the, the color is that we have on the art show will and home that they are going to allow us to say to see what kind of isotope of the rain that was, what is the probable r as you know that etc, etc. so this is why it's very efficient. that doesn't mean that is enough. when you cannot see all the places that you would like to see or that you're a bod from seeing something because of one reason of the what happens next in iran is something that could ultimately be defined as by the trump administration. and one of the key allies of donald trump, senator lindsey graham said recently that the americans should use force to stop or to prevent the iranians from acquiring a nuclear capabilities. do you have any concerns that we're looking to was more confrontation? but i think of course,

i'm the head of an international organization that is there to preserve international peace and security. so we are always, we're doing what we're doing. and we are being as demanding as we are. because we know that by giving confidence, by allowing us to tell the world what is happening, the pro, but based off the usual force diminishes. so this is the political game that is being played here. some may believe that the use of kinetic force is the answer. we are saying is if we are allowed to inspect in the way, with the scope, with the depth and breadth that we want, and we would have tardy. and we'd have to guide the hopefully the perceived need to do something you need laterally concrete tv. ready violent will decrease

the 2015 agreement, 20 iran and the us and the other 6 nations was widely seen as a breakthrough. that could be very helpful to you, to the inspectors on the ground and could be conducive of the ultimately to if payment is supplement. but you said that you don't think that the 2015 deal fits the purpose and it's gone for today. yeah. today why 2015 was 2015. we're talking about a ticket. the code seems incredible. it's been used to do this 10 years. any particular sees 2018. the nuclear program in your on has grown exponentially. you know, risk not only the quantity point one. so now they have more advance centrifuges. so you need much less centrifuge just to,

to go to the amount of time and reach uranium that they want faster have. and so one, they have also a couple of these in other areas which make these phones agreement, obsolete. so this is why i say, uh, jp a, uh, was what it was. let bygones be bygones. i mean, yeah, today is that, is that a to show? nobody has the k that, but is that what we need to do, or we try, we must try to do, and i hope that states can come to this conclusion and at with us helping them. because we are the guarantors that those who are verifying that we have something that covers what needs to be covered and what needs to be covered has changed from that time. so they just don't want to think of it when i say these things. it's not a political, just purely technical is too technical that it could trigger the backlash from the iranians because under 2015,

the deal was basically based on this whole notion of limiting the bonds used to 5000 old centrifuges. and that the best ones would be just shortly for research purposes. i think this is now obsolete relevant company at that time they did, they didn't even have these ultra centrifuge use that they have not they. ready were testing them now they have a, i don't want to get to the technical, but the, the 1st centrifuges were higher ones that they have for 2 and 6 is to, i mean, catalog and they, they have very powerful it's, i saw them. i, i, although i have by inspectors, i think it's important to see that i requested doing this last visit that you were mentioning. i went to the photo and not on sunday. could see the holes where the centrifuges are and, and of course they are state of the art and they are, they, if they perform the 2015 agreement is basically also based on the notion that you

place restrictions of the amount of that material to invest remain in the the how does this look fine? you control the level of purity and the number of the type of a subdivision is put into place. is this still a valid point or do you think this has to be be events that if you ever want to look out and you agree, look at a loss, would be to say that philosophy would be you, you, you look up certain technologies. you a check, what is happening have in return for that iran gets incentives, the sanction lifting it, etc. so it's that there's an indian, the sense the, the basic idea would be the same thing. here is what, what, what, what are the contents of the rest of the, what are you going to put there? what are you going to be checking? what are you going to be controlling?

what weight vice president july 31st, for some stress strategic issues said that the iranians, if they wanted to acquire nuclear capabilities, they would have done so long time ago. and that even the withdrawal of the american from, from the agreement has helped me in a way to expand and you click a book with it is how do you respond to that? but i think it's a fact. i don't know. the 1st part is up by your judgement. it's something that i would not have an opinion on what the vice president is that he's said. but the 2nd thing, it's true, the defense that the program has grown as of the cost. so that, i mean, that is also a matter of interpretation. some say each because gpa was abandoned some digital bit interpretation, i would rather stay away from, you know, say why these happen over these. the fact, this is a fact dates you have much bigger, more and vicious, very,

very important know, get program that you need to monitor and to verify, you know, in a different way. are you in a position of the i a to work out way in advance the breakout time for the radians to be able to produce nuclear. what a fuel is. it is a months of years months. it's not a long time. but again, let me reiterate to them, because then what i say can be me center students, and i think we are here to provide criteria to confuse people. one thing is to have these material, having the material ready, it's a huge step. but then there are other things that they would, you know, hypothetical world where they would decide to go down the wrote that they would have to, to fulfill in order to get to get into the weapons. but it would be an extremely

concerning step and extremely concerning step. let's move to another subject, which is north korea. why does it spend now in terms of what it's capable? it's korea is the mirror of what we need to avoid in the case of iran. because korea, with korea, if you want that nitro, that peta because, i mean, it's useful for people to understand the case. of course, yet we have like what we're having with you. we have long processes. we're having sentence, we even had a small international organization kito that was created to channel assistance to north korea, which was considered for phones. but he was also no good technology civilian nuclear technology in the understanding that this would appease the desire of the most korean government to go. ready to go in that way and as a result of that, the i e was inspecting, and then they were there were caught red handed. so they decided to throw

everything, you know, i window and, and we are, well, we are. so today, go back to me. the, the question of the d. b a k has an important nuclear arsenal tested they test it 6 times. there's indications that they might be preparing another test, but actually they have an operational and relatively reliable nuclear arsenal. they have to be filed, the ballistic missile capability is to put these warheads on and make this a nuclear cup of any d operational and a real and a real threat. and on top of that, i think what has, what was either that they have been without any external compact or relationship when he comes to today's for, for a very long time. i mean the last time i yeah. and i used specter was there was in

2009. exactly. right. so it's a long time and i hope there could be at some point summary engagement with them. oh, although one must say it will be a different kind of free engagement. and we would have to see other which conditions, but this is a matter for the countries for states, there would be a negotiation of that depends on wider political considerations that would have to apply. they've been expanding the uranium enrichment at young beyond facility. and for the time being is that light image where the only source that you how to try to establish what is happening on the ground. yeah. but that allows us to, to have a very, very good impression of what happens that don't forget that we were there before. and we know the type of facilities they have. so these allows are experts to computer modeling and calculations to have a very, very adequate and impression of what they have the amounts and the

activities there. and of course, these are signature that you can see through satellite imagery. when you look at the piece of the tests that they have conducted, particularly comes to the variety of balance that occurs. besides, they say, they says, this is bad question for the national sovereignty. and to come to any spots, particularly from the, uh, the usa and he's like, do you have any concerns that we moving towards a collision course between north korea for us? this is a wider issue and, and, and it'd be beyond the task of the mistake about what is relevant to these regard is that these nuclear capability of exists can be projected. so. ready that makes it a real factor that needs to be considered as a real factor. there's been many of uses by the us to trying to cub north korea's nuclear program. some of those resolutions, but lots particularly by russia and china is, is something that could undermine your any, especially in the near future. so try to why i'd say what i would say,

what i would say is that the old duration of the dynamics within the united nations security council, particular amount of the 5 permanent members of the security council affects any activity in this area. because from the moment you have disagreements among themselves, perhaps um, caused by external situations that may have to do with other geostrategic theaters . then of course without the, you know, need me to any point that way. and these applies to you around and everything else . the unanimity of the 5 permanent members of the united nations security council is absolutely indispensable to sustain the non proliferation regime. if the cracks in that area, then he's got. ready to be very, very difficult for, for me as

a guarantor of the integrity of the n p. d. to do my job in another area which is on your radar screen. ukraine, which you have visited many times since it's a $1022.00. there's been a miniature activity near the nuclear power plant. is this a major safety concern for you? what it is, in the sense that now we have talking, you're mentioning a new cap, our event, which is within the gradient control territory. and under talking about separate asian, what about that which is not helped by territory. so here that has been, and we have been repeating that nothing should be done that might affect the integrity and the safety of a nuclear power plant. in this case, it has to do mainly with the power lines that feed the, this new cap, our station which forest or made the ukrainian regulator to 4th or decreasing the capacity of that for safety. precautionary mentioned,

but of course everything that has to do with the nuclear power plant for us, whatever it is he's, it might circumstance subsidies yet. that's never forget is on the front. so. ready is as exposed as can be then so until the conflict enters a new face, whichever. busy whichever way you define a new face before that song has various military dvd and then safety will not be guaranteed when you travel as well to convince people of annette to prevent proliferation of nuclear weapons and nuclear activities. what would be run? so to people who would say the nuclear weapons of an issue of national pride, if the of the others have it, we should also help at a time. so increased international attention sadly. but it's

a reality in certain parts of the world in certain regions. the opinion of look at what those as increased. this is a very negative thing. we would like the width of this to decrease and eventually when they disappear. i'm so concerned when i see an open discussion about these countries important countries, regional powers that are 2 now in very good standing with their obligations visa media, d. simple english, abstaining from getting nuclear weapons. although they could happen if they so decided what are some of them are said, what if, for example, the situation in the be least if the separately facial case and to be released and needs a country. iran for example, gets a new glow up and then we will have to reconsider and perhaps the moment we had

come, we'd have come to say that we need them to and the, the, the, the probably need the complete and problem of the new care nonproliferation regime . which the optional has been serving us pretty well. it's very, very high. there's also concern about about plants which generate power for, for people to civilian purposes. do you think of this particular because a small and wanted to react to it as well as of yet still in the design and development stage could be the alternative that could be conducive to a long, protracted phase of a of piece. and the question is, is, is very relevant because many people asked me sometimes. yeah, you know, all these ideas, this promise hospice, small motors are reactors, cheaper, easier to deploy short or a construction times, etc. so this is going to be very appealing for many countries in developing worlds

. maybe countries that do not have the institutional regulatory capacity to do to the un. my answer to that is very key or the would always be there. there's no it, there's the surface dvd that a country which is within the international order. he's going to have a nuclear power plant and simply operate it. you know, without us being there to expect profit and money on a go see director general of the international atomic energy agency. thank you very much into football controls as you are with the there's a camera watching may. so i'm going to watch it. surveillance tech is key to sustaining israel's occupation. you don't necessarily know who's watching you after training. it's called the official intelligence, the use of a simulation object sort of,

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