also sasha mobiles to speak to palestinian by to end director ok met. i'm assuming this box you are able to train those in motion instead of it and come out with something to the beautiful and see those emotions without the wounds that's coming . refrain on out is ever a wave of it's really palding's devastates the janine refugee camp. more than 25. tell us the news killed in the operation. and the occupied westbank launched off to the goal is to see spa is donald trump's come back in bozeman, benjamin netanyahu, ceramic small palestinian, touch drake. this is inside story, the hello. we got on change phase. benjamin netanyahu, as reiterated his pledge to re tool the map of the middle east. is there any prime

minister in the united states? well, he'll be the 1st world leader to meet donald trump in his 2nd term. missing you all who believes working closely with the president will help him to further change the face of the region after the war on cause the ends but weeks off to signing the ceasefire agreement with a mouse. israel has ramped up a tax on refugee camps in the occupied westbank. these ready armies says the operation is be noised to prevent the building of the terrorist infrastructure. experts will in the military, rage, and amex and bull pulse of the entire tree is donald trump's return to the white house encouraging nothing yahoo to push ahead with his dream of a great to israel. and what does all this mean for the future of palestinians living in the occupied westbank? we'll discuss all these questions without guess shortly. but 1st, this report from joe levins, has hundreds of thousands of palestinians return to their homes across garza and the federal sees fire purchases. concise is ready,

bottoms right down on the occupied westbank. for the last 2 weeks, the user 80 minute tree had been carrying outrage across the occupied westbank saying that necessary to prevent terrorist infrastructure from being established. large numbers of his ready troops have entered the city and is refugee camp, and are supported by drones. helicopters and almond photos is hundreds of palestinian families have again been forced from the house. and there is another battle on us. they still wanted to call us find the drawing to leave the neighborhoods and heat out a square. so we went towards the square. i went with my mother and my family, they detained me and they put me inside a room and loved it was much of these rarely minute trees focus has been on jeanine, where entire residential buildings, roads, of the infrastructure has been destroyed. these really minute trees say is code, at least 50 palestinian sites has since rates began. but civilians have also been

killed, including 2 euro layla. i'll cut the, the flooding. i'm a civic here in the law. no dual hospital when they started to shoot that to us through the windows without any warning, all of the sudden special forces redid us and we're shooting through the windows and with the military operation. ongoing is variety. prime minister benjamin netanyahu has travelled to washington dc. he's the 1st for our leader to visit president donald trump since isn't all the ration last month. and despite interest for him being issued against him by the international criminal court, the decisions we made in the war authority changed the face of the middle east. our decisions and the courage of our soldiers have redrawn the math. but i believe that working closely with president trump, we can redraw it even further and for the better. and among the discussion will be the implementation of the cause of cease 5 2nd phase palestinians across the

occupied westbank. the future is uncertain. many continued to live in fear for their lives and the future. i'm wonder if that will suffice. joel evans out, is there a to inside story? the. well, let's discuss this further with our panel of guests today in san francisco, professor stevens soonest. he's professor of politics at the university of san francisco and tell of eve, my red zone shine is senior israel analyst at the international crisis group. i'm in ramallah heavy. i would need political scientists and full. i'm a senior advisor to the palestinian liberation organization. welcome to all 3 of you. thank you for joining us today. and i've talked with you more of, we've seen this operation by israel centering on jeanine over the last couple of weeks of the official reason of the comp down seems to be to respond to a spike, to shootings and stabbings and recent weeks and to crack down on what they say is

home us, but saw most speculating, it might also be to appease is riley settlers who, when that was cause a ceasefire deal. went on there watching run page. what's your view on exactly what is rouse doing and why it's doing it? as well as hard not to pay attention to the fact that israel started this operation and really restricted the movement on the west bank. i started a lot more of what it's already been doing for a long time, but, and i'm much accelerated pace, right. is the guy the ceasefire went into effect. so as you eluded it, certainly looks like a signal to the far right. kind of quick pro crow. we're going to stop and guys are basically the to the yahoo was forced into his these fire by trunk. that is our understanding, my understanding of the situation. and so they've wrapped it up in the west bank to, you know, show that they're still in control. and, but they're still dictating the terms. now, they're not talking about eradicating, come us in jeanine or in the west bank because it's not really about how much

they're, it's, it's all kinds of cross factional and i'm affiliated groups. these are very young men who are only know occupation and they only know netanyahu and the one of us. but it's very clear that israel is trying to do the same kinds of things that it's done in gaza, in terms of evacuating people, you know, ruining roads and infrastructure, making it very hard to live there. and yet we, i don't think people expect different results. i, you know, they, they've done these kinds of operations on lesser scales, over and over again. i think the 3rd time in the last 2 years, they've operated in jeanine so many times. and it never seems to create the result that they want. so i don't necessarily expect this to be any different model of could i just check with you though? you say it's not home us and a product and you just love it. you had, we've had all sorts of other groups. i like so much as lyons den, are you saying this isn't really any organized group a tool?

i mean, i'm sure that my colleagues of others can speak more to what's happening with been posted in society because i cover these really died. but yeah, so what i'm saying is, but it's not about you radically eating from us. it's about what, what these ideas is talking about is eradicating tears entire cells and those tears cells might identify more or less with these. so i'm at 200 or other members, but they're not really identified with a specific groups. and this is all over the west bank. you know, like you said, there's other types of groups and they recruit quickly and they come up quickly. so it's not the same as in gaza, but in israel, they're talking about it in kind of the same type of language that they need to eradicate. what's growing in, janine have a um, 70 palestinians killed in the west bank since the beginning of the year. if it wasn't for the attention on the war and casa, i mean, this is, this is huge, isn't it? i mean, what's been going on the westbank since october, the 7th, really,

it's been overlooked by much of the world. is a huge some. but i think when october, the 7th is took place and some western countries, it wanted to at least admit on yahoo that he had the right side of the funds. i think many of us expect that what was going to happen, not only in golf and we were very clear, this is a war against the palestinian people and, and the main goal destroyed in the government has. it's not the old one group or the other is about how to keep denying systematically, the palestinian right to self determination. and that's can be seen the most here in the occupies the west bank. so this is not about what's happened before after october. the 7th. we're talking about a system of we'll put on the center of the patient, but you can see all over the occupied westbank. and over the past weeks has to be even as front them through almost 900 movement to stick shows made. they usually live in, built by westbank, extremely difficult for people have limits to the move,

but the people in between different cities. and that goes in part of those with an increase on the, for a to set the total attacks it almost all over the occupied the west bank, but particularly an area that's under the trump of ministration supplies or the previous administration plan. but they referred to us to go up essentially the but we can talk about the annexation plan that was supposed to be a next for the start. we're talking mainly about the jordan valley and areas in around $45.00 is to do some stephen, i'm it since that see spot, the in gaza on the 19th of january the day before president trump was an organization. we've seen pictures in garza of how much gun the lots of them on the streets do you think this military operation in part is a distraction by ness and yahoo to keep his right wing satisfied both clear that it did not for the seat from us dislike they're not going to to see the resistance in the west bank and the resistance, whether it be in the form of

a mosque or some secular groups or spontaneous cells or whatever is a result occupation of siege of the failure to grant palestinians the right of self determination or equality. and so this idea that, you know, if we just keep hitting, keep hitting, keep hitting, that somehow things will get better somehow things will, will work is nonsense, but i think you're correct in that there is some political side to this that they are, they're certainly trying to appease the right wing and the right wing really does have a, a cart blash now, especially with trump lifting the limited sanctions that the a by an administration had placed on them several months ago. i think of it not that it would stop the attacks there over 1400 attacks after by the impose the sanctions. but as long as the settlers keep terrorizing the community, the community is going to strike back. now i want to show something that was said

a couple of weeks ago at the world economic forum in double. so you and 2nd, general antonio terrace was speaking that those efforts on behalf of the international community, he stressed the need for a 2 state solution. but he said he feared there was another possibility. listen, because i think his comments here a very telling you have the possibilities for israel to begin. bolden by submitting sadie successes that be 10 said to see that this is the moment to do the next section of the west bank. uh and uh, to keep the guys the kind of the legal situation with the pen please. and clear farm above it is clear to me that you see all these lots fundamentally interested in thousands of them as we speak, the west bar of those last words that it's clear for me that israel is not

fundamentally interested in gaza. it's fundamentally interested in the west bank. would you agree with that assessment from the un secretary general? well, i would certainly say that is really government has an open agenda of the next thing, the west bank and gaza. it's a different story, but israel. busy policies as we've seen them are to displace and disrupt pellets in the livelihood everywhere. so that is common to both cars on the west bank and israel's defective control of both the territories continue to control over decades and to various degrees and levels is also common. but i think it's true that in many ways the far right, while it has studied sites on recycling, gaza, that seems to be much less possible now that a residence in uh guys that have moved back up north and there's a ceasefire. and trump has kind of a different vision now, and i think what we need to pay attention to is that the west bank is already under

defacto acts, asian. i mean, israel already, especially in the last couple of years under finance minister because much rich who has also started to move authorities from the military into civilian hands and is very, very open about what he's trying to do. so, you know, there's, there's no question here that this is what israel is doing. and i think what we need to think about is whether it's in mention the items interest to actually formally elect to the west bank. the last time he threatened to do so. he got the abraham accords and i think for is wrote for the practical. busy right wing and israel, it's more in their interest to defacto and that's the west bank and not to make it formal because then they'll have to answer to a lot more legal question is that they don't need to deal with today. have a you'll in ramallah, you are living through this, you're well aware. as of you as our i think that is real estate to attend a ride on the west bank focusing on jeanine again last summer in august and september. and then in recent weeks, the policy knew the thoughts he's been carrying out its own right in

a very public way with um, with vehicles going through the streets of janine, the spokesman for the policy and helps out with your patients. that the aim was to put an end to suspicion and chaos. what message was the policy? nuno saw it to you in your view, trying to send with that operation. you want me to kind of see now sorted, see what's trying to send a message to the trunk of ministration with regards to the willing methods has to have an effective control. but i think the most important element here is that this really government has been weakening, not just any sort of kind of thing, an organization on the ground, but they've had a single 30 p. it. so it's virtually impossible for any government to have an effective control here in the elk. you bite the westbank. i'm the, the master of what the story of the government, the let's remember that the story of the government, the student is confiscating hundreds of millions that belong to the signal authority. and at the same time, it's making things difficult for the p a to function with the problems they are

facing regarding movement between different policy and areas. steve of the year ago, the us and the you were demanding that there was a reinvigorated leadership of the policy and a sort of in almost a year ago, a new prime minister mohammed mustafah was appointed to lead the policy new authority isn't the reality though. the p a is probably weaker than ever, is very much so is a combination of its own corruption. and the, the, the view that in increasing view that they are essentially collaborators with the, as riley's of their inability to, to stop the war in dollars of that. and the aging leadership in terms of the president of boss is certainly hurt it's, it's a, sorry, you're an addition to an industry the milton groups of you also have a growing civil society move. do you have a lot of non violent resistance and alternative institutions and the other other act actions from the, from the bottom up that are challenging not just the as rarely occupation of,

but many aspects of the ph rule as well. but the problem, of course, is that they, it is in the current situation where they are the most of the land remains under a foreign control where the world's greatest super power is blocking the united nations from enforcing its resolutions. where the united states has as contradictory role a being the chief mediator in the conflict and the chief military, economic and diplomatic supporter of the occupying power. really there's, there's no palestine authority, one could think of even with a fairly, you know, spot apparently fairly a competent, a technocrat in the prime minister's office. you know, it is impossible situation really, for anybody. a matter of the other factor, of course, is the un body that deals with the palestinians. unruh has now been found by these, right? these, if you don't have a functioning unreal, you have

a barely functioning palestinian authority. you have an economy that is wrecked. i mean, what does it leave foot for people living in the westbank come in that. how would they even get to get basic services? yes, i mean, israel's law against winter. i went into effect this week a few days ago and they were evacuated basically from their offices in jerusalem and their future is unclear. um, obviously the most urgent situation that he might have, terry and then the services in the education that we were provide. but i think with what his role is really doing here and again, it's very open and clear in terms of the color of the, the government's agenda. this is part of it's just destruction of the palestinian people. and in doing what they're doing to under uh, they're basically saying that there aren't post, i mean, refugees, this isn't something that we're ever going to deal with. and it's a political issue. so this is part of israel's campaign, also to diminish or even collapse the positives already,

even though the military realize very heavily on the t a for what it does in services in the west bank. but you know, it's around, there is no alternative for right now. in the occupied territories, and so this is going to create more unemployment, more violence, more chaos, and arguably, it's not in israel security interest to do so. on of course have a, the settlement scale on land continues to be taken by israel, who is actually leading this operation for israel because it seems that the finance minister, smart, rich, seems to have not a formal role. but he seems to be calling the shots in the west bank. would you say he's effectively now the governor of the westbank? i think i would fully agree with the with that the assessment and i would just of the show you the government seems to be that the it but a document made by mr. smoked. it's back in 2017, which he basically provided palestinians with the options they either accept to

remain on the occupation of our sites with no rights. or you can say, which is something that the president trump seems seems to be endorsing. now in the case of the whole data it or if and none of those work, then he will talk cuz he will talk about the media type. and when we talk about the community type solution, it's very similar to what's happening in gaza with, i'm just trying to say is the people here in the occupies westbank, are extremely concerned. and some of them are really afraid that the the see us, we have witness in gaza. i'm going to repeat this here for the sake of this on. busy and an exception process, and i think most importantly of the state, which is the survival of the government that's taking place through the suffering and the denial of rights of the kind of significant stephen. i mean, it seems to me as netanyahu meets trump, there are 2 possible scenarios. maybe there are more, but the main ones to me,

all the trump pushes ahead with the abraham a cold skits saudi arabia to join the you a bahrain morocco and well sit down. there's probably a little bit of a moot point to give them the country's been in civil war for nearly 2 years. he pushes ahead with that, and if saudi was to agree with that, then he, we wouldn't have westbank, an exception of displacement to people from garza. but that's the other option that many in these right in the cabinet would like to see which way do you think trump is going to go. you would shop will certainly try to push for deal with saudi arabia. but even saudi arabia is a 3rd hearing that may be can ignore the views of 98 percent of their population, which i think would oppose recognizing israel without recognizing palestinian statehood as, as well. a viable state alongside israel. so i think he will, it to, the alternative would be essentially to give, uh, uh, nothing yahoo

a blank check. now either for outright annexation or increasing the de facto annexation. i think we will see increasing violence. we're going to see a situation like we, we did in south africa and the 1980s of where the war and the townships and ends and or, or do use another analogy from that period. el salvador, where the united states, you know, allow the desk squads and, and, and inclusion with the, the, the saudi stuff with the salvador and military to engage in ongoing and massacres. so i, i think is, as long as trump is in here, i can, i cannot expect him to push israel to moderate and in any way whatsoever. and i think it's going to be up to the international community and the, and the american civil society, to, to rise to the occasion and do what we can to make sure such a horrible scenario doesn't take place. my ref comes 1st to nothing. you know,

who got absolutely everything he wanted to move the u. s. embassy to jerusalem recognized as ready to control the goal. um, but you have the cushion of proposal which was didn't go anywhere particularly, but it was very favorable to israel and he got the abraham records. but now the next stage of the abraham accords could potentially, could it not be a difference between the, between nothing yahoo and trump given the electro count calculations and the political calculations of the coalition of interest to yes, well you have a kind of very different dynamic now between that and yahoo, we control bray trump isn't his 2nd term. he's come out very clearly for the cease fire has put his weight behind it and for the hostage deal is rarely the relying orange from then on. it's in your own to get their fellow citizens out of gaza and you have this conflicting kind of vision that trump is, seems to be putting forward a mega deal with saudi normalization. but how do you get that without getting

serious concessions to the palestinians? a steven was talking about there's no way to kind of square that circle and you have people in terms of ministration, who are greater. israel annexation is like huckabee, like at least defining an attorney. i don't want us to survive and his coalition. so if he's going to continue with the guys ceasefire, he's gonna have to give something else in return. so it's very unclear and of course the saudis as well are not going to be able to move quickly on this because they're going to have to see serious measures taken. and 1st and foremost, a complete withdrawal of ideas from gaza and like a permanent end to this war. and on the other hand, we still have some ice and power there, which is something that is relevant to me. i don't want the saudis presumably don't want trump doesn't watch. maybe that's the one major commonality, but it's unclear how all the pieces of this puzzle are going to come together. and right now it seems completely unreasonable, but i,

i would say that i think trump has a different vision than that to me on right now. and so that's a very interesting dynamic that we're going to have to see how it plays out. well steven, take taking that point on if trump has a slightly different edition, that vision from nothing, you know, you might all to you as my drive set when she mentioned some of the names. the, some of those around trump probably share nothing yahoos vision, rather than trumps. right now, people like at least the phonic who wants to be and probably will be confirmed the you and i'm positive, says israel as a biblical right to the, into westbank. you have become could be who they want to make the governor other the boss of the israel saying that really is no such thing as a palestinian. the trump solution is a broad one. it includes these right wing christian fundamentalist. oh see, god has some kind of cosmic real estate agent that gives all the land to the jews. but you also have the tech rose. you have the, you know, more pragmatic elements in the mix as well. but i think that that the trunk,

but at least inviting you, gave it a try to get a sense that he gave some lip service to international legal standards. trump does not. i mean, he doesn't care about us law, given all of indictments, much less so international law. so i'm afraid that he will indeed be open to the prospect of that next ation. you're not, if they ever, every square meter of the west bank at least uh the uh, area is controlled by uh israel or the supplements in this and, and, and the surrounding the lands. and so i, i really don't think that he is going to be willing to push a nothing yahoo into a compromise at all or to crack down on the hard liners with it within his colon. should have a briefly, i mean you had stevens, the say he believed the bite and paid some lip service to international legal norms . is that how it is seen in ramallah?

and is there any anyone that who thinks it could be better with trump? first of all, i don't think you've been there to pay a leg service, see, contribute to it, to identify thing does, and keeping them too much to end the quarter in a set, their occupation here in the occupied with spank. let's remember that a lot of money is being turned them from organizations in the us to a story to set them in groups here in the occupied the was spend, including, for example, the jewish and i found it under the a, by the administration, by the few what's going on that sense? and i would say though, is that, that not many people are optimistic with betsy and trump, particularly after he's to endorse ment opened, experiencing, and of have a science you very much. and thanks to all i guess today on inside story stevenson is my dr. sunshine. and so i'd be a bu each stay tuned to out as ever for comprehensive coverage of the situation and gaza the occupied westberg east jerusalem israel. and remember those even more

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