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of the passion and the politics of the little pool f. c. the defiance joins part of the fines who make football series on how just the around the the nor a kyle, this is the news. our live from doha. coming up in the next 60 minutes, dealers will take over the guys, and we will do a brazen declaration. president donald trump says the u. s. should seize control of gone to uncommonly displace palestinians. how mass react, saying, present trunk, comments of ridiculous upside. and the idea is like that could they can like the
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region. saudi stands from america's regional allies says it's cool for an independent palestinian state is unwavering. also, it has the united states trade war with china rems americas postal service. suspense packages from china and hong kong, the u. s. allies and detractors have condemned preston donald trump's comments about garza with some accusing him according to ethnic cleansing. yes, president says he wants to take over the strip and went roll out, deploying american troops to do so. he announced his plans well standing next to me, his rate of prime minister benjamin netanyahu of the white house. it's a white house correspondent, company hawk. it begins i'll coverage today. i'm delighted to welcome,
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which is really prime minister, grinning by his side. us president donald trump made a shocking announcement. contrary to initial plans, phase 3 of the gaza cease fire reconstruction is unlikely so instead trumping visions do something different to us. we'll take over the gaza strip without it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangers unexploded bombs and other weapons on the side. i do see a long term ownership position. i see it bringing great stability to that part of the middle east. the force displacement of a population by an occupying power. israel highlights international law. trump reiterated his call for egypt and jordan to take in the 2000000 displays palestinians plan both countries have rejected. still trump believes he'll convince air of nations to sign onto his vision for gaza ideas. benjamin netanyahu also
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endorses president. trump is taking it to a much higher level. he sees a different, he sees a different future for that piece of land that has been the focus of so much terrorism . i think it's something that could change history. a trust referred to gaza repeatedly as hell edit demolition site, but he believes it can be transformed by envision world people living there, the world's people. i think you'll make that into an international unbelievable place. i think the potential and the gaza strip is unbelievable. and i think the entire world representatives from all over the world will be there and there. and they'll look that palestinians also. i don't want to be cute. i don't want to be a wise guy, but the riviera of the middle east. and in the midst of a fragile cease fire truck made yet another controversy over mark about palestinian
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sovereignty over the west bank. and whether the us supports annex saying it, we haven't taken a position on it yet, but we will be, will be making an announcement probably on that very specific topic over the next 4 weeks on wednesday, the is really prime minister means with the us national security advisor and defense secretary at the pentagon and he wraps up his visit to the united states on capitol hill meeting with senior congressional leaders. kimberly healthcare al jazeera, the white house senior hamas officials have really statements in response to the us president's comments. they say it's a recipe for creating chaos on tension in the region on the people in gauze when to allow these plans to us. i'm us says what's required as an end to the occupation and the aggression against its people not or expulsion from the land. it goes on to
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say people and guns that have force of displacement and deportation under bombardments for more than 15 months. i'm the rooted in the land. i'm willing to accept any schemes i ended up losing them from the homeland. i'm just not, we're just standing by for us and the jordanian at capsule, amman and honey, my foot is long for us and gauze at 1500. that's festival. go to humans is extraordinary statement that we're hearing from president donald trump. it's so pretty much every one. what's been the reaction from people the in gaza noon? laura, as the day progresses, we hear from people the reactions, donald trump, the statement that as shocking as it sounds, what we're seeing on the ground is basically everything that is the beginning of what is going to happen next day. the pas 50 months haven't created much of the conditions on the ground that may have might be quite impossible for palestinians that just the,
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the leading months through the c is fire. everything that happened here in northern part of this trip and java city turned golf and do more of an uninhabited bold play of citizen eventually forcing p. busy 2 out of out of this trip or out of the territory. now, this is not the 1st time we're here this week. and the possibly here many of these really officials were made comments at the opening weeks of the war when they said they've been to the palestinian would have to voluntarily leave god. but now this voluntarily departure of palestinians is the equivalence of expulsion. the equivalence of, of population and transfer, and if the glens, again, the statements made by donald trump last side, which by the way, the majority of people here in gauze, in the northern part of part of the southern part of this trip. without the electricity, without internet, so they did not want you to close the they did not hear about it until this morning . it happens more in a vacuum. and people here they are priority is now is how to sustain their live here. the made their way back, despite the destruction the devastation that is cost of the home, the infrastructure of the public facility. people are made their way way back to an
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area that has become very uninhabitable because of the 15 months of bombardment and devastation you did choose to come back despite the challenge of the fact that there is no water source available here, no food supplies available to whatever amount of food that made its way here, it's only a trick on, in, in the face of the larger demands that but the resources are limited. people think the only options that they have, and it's only one option is to see on their home land to rebuild their shatter life . despite the realization that their journey to rebuild the shadow. life is litter . with many of the challenges in chief among them in these ongoing his statements. don serenity of the futures and the inability of the states fire just to stay in or hold for the coming day. it's definitely a not. 5 a start or from donald trump side, and in the past couple days, we are some contradictory statements with or from him or from the, his middle east policy advisor. both of them gave contradictory statements about
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the sustainability of this. these firewalls. donald trump is pushing for something that is completely different, that it's not that nothing short that i and if the glen think of an entire population and honey trump described goals are the demolition sizes. you say you people have been returning to the know them and they were turning to essentially nothing but was all the plans the hopes for rebuilding as well as of now we can safely say that he is largely accurate about his description that goes up the northern part, particularly on gauze and city has turned into more of the hell, because there is nothing left for people. the people are coming back to nothing. here, none of their homes are standing. remaining buildings are still hispanic. i've been severely burned and damaged and the are at risk of collapsing. so there is a security on safety risk now for people coming back here, particularly those where tried to remove bubbles of from the around many of these
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buildings and setting up their density are in the range of dangers as soon as these buildings collapsing. but there's no water source as well. there's, there are no food supplies available. the fact that there are no hospitals available if you're making it very difficult, particularly for elderly senior citizen, those with the, with health issues to come back to this area. but again, despite all of this, people are coming back to choose to come back because they don't have any other options the, the gaza. and unfortunately, because of the many uh, parts of it that has turned into a buffer zone because of the devastation. it is a gradually becoming a quite often livable because of these conditions. now the in the u. s. a. and israel has deep in this sense because people are coming back with a permanent sense of display of spend no homes to set up their denson near the rubble of their homes. it's, it's still difficult for them to, to rebuild the satellite. but again, there is hold, there is some resilience,
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coupled with the uncertainty of the future and the fear of the, the, the fear of the unknown in the coming days. okay, honey, my good friends to view that from gall, the city in the north of golf and many thanks. indeed, honey. let's bring it home to sell food. now. she joins us from among us because he's really government and the policy, you know, authority of bind, i'll just there from a forcing inside israel and the occupied west bank. now how do we've already seen a man reacting berries from each trunk of plans for the relocation of golf, those to jordan and to egypt. but how i'm confusing help further on typing, isaac is this latest statement from donald trump. of the boats quite antagonizing. because while donald trump refers to gauze and ruins, saying it's hell and that it's all disaster, there was no acknowledgement that israel was actually the one who created that scenario with the assistance of american weapons that were shipped to israel
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throughout the entirety of this war. the us president suggests that he wants to create a quote, riviera of the middle east and calls for the ethnic cleansing the palestinians, saying that they're going to go to jordan or go to go to egypt and that they are going to take them. but jordan, egypt, saudi arabia, along with the arab league, have been quite outspoken about their sand saying that that's absolutely not going to happen. the palestinians need to remain on their land in gaza. but you also have to take account these really prime minister and how he throughout the entirety of the war was saying the plan was not to resettle guns of the plan was not for more legal settlements. the plan was ultimately to defeat him ass and release. the remaining is really captives held in the palestinian territory. but now gears are shifting and there's a lot of pushback from the middle east. and in fact, jordan's king abdullah, is set to visit the white house next week. and this will be the main point of discussion for the 2 leaders and have to what reaction have we heard so far from
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inside as well? a look before these comments were even made. i want to point to a survey that was published. it is really media just 2 days ago that said 80 percent of those polled in israel supported donald trump's plan to re locate posting using dogs outside of palestine. so just to give you an idea of where is really society is out, but when it comes to ministers in espanol whose government they're handling this move, saying that it's the dawn of a new day that they want to make the middle east great again to. but it's, it's a little bit difficult to fathom these thoughts because they are living a little bit outside of reality, calling for the ethnic, cleansing of 2000000 palestinians from gaza. and additionally, members of mentioned, y'all is right when government, those who had less the government, those who are still in it so that they wanted guarantees for b is really premier. that during the cease fire, a deal like many voted no to there would be a restart of the war. after that they said that when that's in yahoo goes to
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washington to visit with the us president. he needs to call for annexation of the occupied west bank. he needs to call for restarting the war. and i also want to point to some comments made by trump's middle east on boy steve wood. paul, who said that a better life for palestinians isn't necessarily tied to the land, but those comments are quite shocking because if you know anything about these really palestinian conflict, it is absolutely tied to the land. the whole conflict is because of a country that was occupied in 1948 when the palestinians were forced out initially . so this just goes to show you that we are in uncharted waters here, uncharted territory as things are beginning to escalate, rather than de escalate. as part of the ceasefire, yeah, we saw neil holmes up many things. and dave, joining us the from a mom. oh yes. present. donald trump has tried to justify his plans, including the full simple resettlement of an entire population of palestinians accessing them. and i do see a long term ownership position. i see it bringing great stability to that part of
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the middle east and may be the entire middle east. and everybody i've spoken to this was not a decision made lightly. everybody i've spoken to loves as the idea of the united states, phoning that piece of land developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent and a really magnificent area that nobody would know. nobody can look because all they see is death and destruction and rubble and, and demolished buildings falling all over. so what are the international know, say about strong plans to forcibly reset full palestinians from casa logical 49 of the geneva convention prohibits the deportation of people from unoccupied territory, right? and statutes of instructional criminal court to find full displacement as a crime against humanity. and a will crime humans actually general has also rejected the proposal saying a 2 state solution is the only way to resolve the conflict or doing in the studio
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now by tunnel comic is associate professor of public policy. the whole is to shoot for graduate studies time, an awful lot to unpack him this morning. i want to put aside the politics miller galaxies, but just one moment and get your personal reaction as someone from gauze the to trump's idea. the us takes ownership of it and does that quote, jump on us. and i think it's a very for me, it's a very sick joke at this point in time. um, i mean, when you see the soonest, i, the more the impacts it has less than the center people. you would assume at this moment when data ceasefire, but the focus will be on the on sustaining the ceasefire and ending the world and creating a political bath for the political supplement to preserve but as soon as dignities under dignity invites. but at the opposite you'll see this, i mean, this war mongering and this new in pretty other than the phone. i'll put it this
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way, very vote good. the very inhumane, totally. this in this, the god of international a few minutes. he opened the thing, we have been brought up believing and, and i think it and that's from, i mean that's the from fax of a should we whether we should take it seriously or not? i think yes, we should pick. it's here to see, but it doesn't mean anything from say's works. what happens, i mean we sometimes i used to be off also threatened inc. and you know, bullying got on with the proposing all these. 3 crazy ideas, but also it feeds in many conflicts and folding at the scene of conflicts. a trump proposed defeat of the century, which does not see the lights at trump. uh, but to submit the indices of carpet at some point in 2017. and it's also it, it's for, it is it that it's not to fade. so the topic that has the but there is the deepest thinking that us, which has also best of interest in, in this, in this region as well. and to what extent foot trump be able to uh,
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to push this idea to make it work. i mean, it seems to be seen but, but, but we should, we should that he should still think lose foot seriously. and it is time for collective for collective action, opposite through, you know, the, i mean, that's something that i'd statements know, but i think them up enough that something of this is the test now. of the deals that leverage with trump. everything should be put on the table and not include things that pretty much put them in addition, indeed, including economic interest including the, its interest. this is the, the up, this for up states now. and it's also at this for the best thing to leave the ship as what it's fine for you on a t for the students, because that's a trump has said that he does not see up at a student state anymore. so, so it's, if it's not for action now we, i mean, we know that trump is a very transactional president. when you talk about leverage, does this come down to who has got the greatest leverage between the 2 sides the, our countries who could either support all of the preventive or the us who will put pressure on the outside which side is holding the strong concert?
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i think both meet each other. i mean, yes, that ups haven't visited so much. and so if there's a connections with us for many reasons, i mean we kind of discuss them now. but they do have best economic interest with the us. the us needs us to be huge and also as part of it still full of international global influence, they need the solution to be aligned with the us as well. and it's a and it's tough to utilize when they shy in the shop, whatever it is, we're seeing this very complex, a global map, correct. so there is a passion and a political adoption that isn't. when it comes to this, you would say that the medical should listen carefully to add up concerns as well. but what, that's what is more is for the at ups to come together. and on foot are united position and that they, but we don't need that junctions. you're not going to say what we're distracting it the solve these, not all they have to come with a plan and there is a history for this. the 2002 out of the piece initiative which was offered to is that at the time which, which means the or basically in the involved. the coping i think is an opposite the
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a allowing for the 2 state solution to take place. i think this proposed that needs to be revived now with the level there's and with also the position of of saying things can change drastically when it comes to the condition with the us set throat . so i'm not sure if this will and indeed the occupation we have seen this language would change humanizes palestinians. this takes away palestinians, agency of that, right in the future of that right and future states. so how does it play into this narrative that israel is trying to projects that piloted into something less than him? i mean, 1st of all, it still said that a, this a disappointing for us, that it was still discussing this on people on their legacy. this of the effort by system, whatever it is, i think it doesn't matter. i mean, morally, i think these latest few that isolated this, this nothing else from 2 other, nothing else was that the drum is the most is political legacy and is mortality.
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that's fine. that is, that has a come to that business. he began, yes, it's a superpower, but the entire world is fed up with nothing, you know, and with the legacy of your probation and appetites. and i think i talked about a protective action. it's also time for the global, so to spend together to put an end for this, the uniforms have been the biggest invest the part to in this piece of process, the biggest building that have the largest donors. what is it open this with all some money, money, open countries, optical glasses, kind of spend as a state what, what does this the futile trump is winning? everyone, i mean, to think of the and the company kind of makes everything mexico. so what's happening to kind of start in the, what they mean, sign up on by the start on another disaster unfolding. it's wouldn't hit everyone else in the space. so it's time for also low but action against the trump fact. so it's not the us that the trump talk was, i'm sure in the us, even people are shocked and they're also in the the action will don't know what to do now with this crazy proposal kind of coming many things in dates. but joining us
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my present reaction to present trunk. the comments about golf has been swift and a strongly what a statement is. saudi arabia says it, we have funds as unequivocal rejection of any infringement of an adjustment rights of the palestinian people. and the stories ready, settlement policies land on next, ation or attempts to displace them. and also says international community has a duty to a lead the, the survey, a humana, human suffering, enjoyed by palestinians. the statement goes on to say, saudi arabia emphasizes this position is non negotiable and not subject to compromises. i'm that achieving lost in peace is impossible without the policy and people obtaining the legitimate rights in accordance with international resolutions . abdul aziz al. gotcha. and with that, research has found the foreign policy. he's also a senior fellow at the observer research foundation, mid least to me, joins us now from istanbul. thanks very much for being with us. how might saudi
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arabia be the best position country you're certainly in this region to stop trump plans and it strikes well firstly, thank you very much for having me. i think a segue nicely from the previous speaker who talked about the theme and touched upon the theme of, of leverage. i think the real loved urge that the eric states, or particularly savvy radio has, is not on trying to pressure the united states. but actually the leverage isn't what it wouldn't do, which is normalization. i think it's very clear that everybody or many people in either israel or the united states and want to see us out with these randy normalization deal. and this desperation to see it manifested provides a great deal of leverage that the saudis have. and as a result, the what the saudis are doing now is basically not trying to pressure people to say yes, we are going to act actively. but instead we are not going to provide you with what
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you really want, which is normalization. and i think that resonates far more than any kind of um statements. i think the fact that they said didn't mention that there will not be diplomatic relations with israel is something significant. and moreover, i think the, the fact that they expanded upon it and said that this is not up for negotiation. it's something also that you know, this, this, this is the, the, the leverage that the salaries are trying to expand upon. this is the, the, the, the, the card if you like, that they have and they're trying to use it. and that way i, and talked to a previous class was also saying that this requires more than a unilateral response from countries in the region that requires the region to come together and respond collectively. do you see that happening? or there is no other choice, but for that to happen. uh we strive for now the previous speaker also directly
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mentioned the, the 2002 error piece initiative. and the fact that this now is a reference point that needs to be expanded upon the fact that the error piece initiative, a lot of people don't understand the error piece and they should have an error piece initiative, was actually designed to start negotiations. it was not a detect, as many people like to think it is to dismiss it. and as a result, there is no effort to explicate or to expand upon it. and the arab states need to really expand more upon it to make sure that their statements and their position is, is more clear and to display a unified from, to meet the vis very concerning trajectory that donald trump and it them. yeah. who are pushing for and therefore they are counting on error acquiescence. it's very, very important to display that there is no interest payment of this whatsoever. because donald trump and need to know who are doing are actually hindering regional
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stability with this. i mean, let alone the ethnic cleansing aspect of the cleansing here, and the call and for the, the, the, the re resettlement of people in other states is injured and national security of the, of these eric states and also him during regional security for, for, for the region and so quite frankly, there needs to be stronger and more proactive states. we can no longer be reactive to some of these statements. we need to be on the proactive and there needs to be an effort to address the public space. the public diplomacy in this is really where i think there of states have to kind of move forward to collectively and in, in a more senate synergetic way. mm hm. there's also if we look forward hearing blue, don't talk still about a 2 state solution for israel and palestine. i mean many would already say that that is not realistic. but do you think on the trump that is a reality?
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it seems it seems that donald trump editing yahoo or a particular engineer who are trying to curdle tail any kind of policy name component not comes for the for, for, for us out of these really normalization to keep the hopes alive of a product. and you said, i think they're really banking on killing the policy and in the hopes of the palestinian state. and this is where i think we really need to start thinking differently. here. we need to start thinking not just, you know, using the same measures of uh or the same, the same calls for slogans of 2 state solution to state solution. we need to keep this alive, but how do we make the 2 state solution manifested? what are the products these that are needed? what is so for example, one of the things that i've been working on is the integration of pablo sign into the region. i know it sounds very, very distant from now, but you know, it's a process that keeps the hopes of a 2 state solution i like because quite frankly,
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while many people, assuming this is coming from a regional perspective, i'm not, i'm sorry, would you rate that? i'm not protest in the but the 2 state solution may seem very, i'm tangible, but it is the only way or the only solution that we see because there are no other solutions. there is no one state. so, and there is no, you know, no deportation or resettlement of this stuff, just not going to happen. so we have to find a way to figure out, re articulate what is, what are the necessities required to establish this to state solution. and we need to now start, you know, being more open. we need to start involving, also the academics, civil societies in play, a role in trying to be in thinking how can this be manifested? and, and i know there are these efforts, but i think it's high time we start involving ourselves into the public space
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because that's really, you know, the ideas. the ideas are going to gain traction. this could just be the push that is needed. abdul aziz al. gotcha. and many thanks indeed for taking the time to join us that from stumble to my pleasure. well, trump has also signed an executive order cutting ties with un agency for palestinian refugees and extending a funding band on what has been described as the backbone of old humanitarian response. in garza, we have an executive order prepared for your attention that would withdraw the united states from the us human rights council would withdraw the united states from the u. n. r w a, which is a refugee organization. i would also review american involvement in unesco. this are so important that we're really, you know, the united nations is largely funded by us. but uh and it shouldn't be,
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it shouldn't be funded by everybody, but where disproportionate as we always seem to be, judge holla is director of the policy and, and jos network. and he joins us now from darrow bala in central galls. i mean, this is just one part of the story today, but it's a significant pump because of the outside role that unreal plays in on, in the gaza. what is the impact of the us formally with drawing itself from this organization? thank you the see what i just knew, all the other one the what the drum the mention of all the the gospel, good the station and did all now all the lot of the problems don't regardless of the me. oh, hold on words. know when can approve us from. gotcha. okay. do you have the cost to ship the month of delay destruction and
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certification and we came back to got more of yes funding. why has been the backbone of all the do many day and actions and god, this is for those of years really been on the other one you cation bill, also on social services, in the 15 months on the what was one of the main actors. and we the benefit to the lot as the theories from the other existence. and we will see this struggle to keep them on the hair. and we bought them from the collapse. so they said that because of all the while and got a certain barely, and uh, we call all the act. i'm on calling all the actors in the to continue the legal implement the and financial support of the other. what made it a lot of countries to continue the orthodontal on such a very good i think
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