tv [untitled] February 5, 2025 12:30pm-1:01pm AST
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in the like, in a little more complex mode disability in this keep up from the top. sorry. i mean, he said he wants to be the present to ends will was not stopped them time a company many thanks indeed for joining us. my pleasure. well, hundreds of thousands of palestinians of were tons to northern garza to find the items which used to rumble. large scale is rarely a tax, may have stopped for now, but children and going to the city facing a new threats. and it's one that dealt as a struggling to combat abraham l. how many reports from kansas se a. 2 15 months was raised for have devastated guides, a city this resource card with creators, caused by bombs ms files. that disruption is causing another crisis. spite the cease fire water supplies are still contaminated. palestinians have little choice to work, eat and live in conditions that code because profit for the health but knew that so
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it has a, it is better than the school where her family shield to the southern gospel and how much the bathrooms and toilets would instead of his condition due to the severe over crowding, the, that the sea, which was always in front of my tongue, our legs turned black from the there's 2 are she and her daughters are still suffering from diarrhea and john the us. but the most i, yet there are mental or just has seen for worse. i mean know a lot of how that would send it to you in for sure. hold on. i have also seen massive numbers of people who suffered from escaping is they are chicken pox patients to in addition to the parasitic infections before the war. so as you like, this could be for you to use an electrical pump. but now, in the absence of any power, the sites that you have heard, one and guy, the city is filled with a standing water and has become a breathing, a ground for bacteria, for those floors to live nearby. the smell can be overpowering as are the health
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risks was volleyball, checking to see what it could be the most, keep his friends in a frightening way, which greatly affected people and that to this part of many skin diseases. some of these diseases are new to this area. i mean, it does not exist here before the war with more than 170 kilometers of damaged fives, gaza, see or throw these say they are powerless to prevent the waste from, from all went into places where people sleep when i get the idea that we need heavy machinery pipes, the maintenance transform is generate as many other things to maintain water treatment plan. so the consequences, 14 years old, i am a double save our painful clear. he and his older brother father lived in bed la, where their mother and my lien is now an unwilling experience. and the skin diseases that was the end let not eligible. they got scared beef chicken pox and
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they suffer from allergies. i knew how to look after my kids before the will. we also feel greatly from the lack of hygiene after the, even if the war comes to a permanent and damaged to children's health, the bottom head, this will likely take a long time to heal them on payments. lady eggs, euro gaza city, palestine. honey lockwood is in gall just as he joins us now. live from the honey. give us a bit more of an idea of the conditions that and dollars a show us around what we can see because behind you is this thing of also devastation. but of course the thing people trying to return to the lives as best they come laura, it has been quite difficult for the past few days, almost a week since people have started to come back to their homes in northern part of district. but and garza city and really shocked by this your level of destruction as we're going to show you the massive destruction here caused by the pos 50 months
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of ongoing destruction and mass bombardment of the area of i was just sitting earlier that we drove by here for almost 35 minutes around the area and we were desperately searching for one house that is still in tax one home that is spelled together we we failed to find. so the, not the majority close to 99 percent of this area has turned into a pile of ruins that you can see dots and people here all is deal of what used to be here. this is an area that is better, better known as a connection between garza city and the northern part of this trip used to be quite busy with lots with lots of a traffic, lots of department stores and it's small business. the thriving in this area. 5 and it's hard to imagine that now you're getting more move around either they used to be quite a quite the crowd at here. now. just see in just few people making their ways to their homes. and the northern part of gastric set it up, their tents, that is the,
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on the sides of the, of the pile of rubble is of their bon at home. some are trying to salvage items it from under the rubble just to help them survive the difficult living conditions that created by created by the, the mass bombardments of what happened in the past 15 months. other are trying to reopen roads and the streets in the area. a lot of people set it up tends in the middle of the road here because been with the absence of virtue of everything. what they're doing here to try to find some form of life here either by. 7 by selling something so they can make some, a little bit of money that help them to go buy and, and, and their daily day to day life in, in, in the area all in all we're talking about difficult conditions in terms of what's available now. it's almost nothing available here. yeah, for example, we have been here for the past 5 hours and we desperately search for
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a bottle of water that does not exist. we drove after a free report, we drove around just to find a bottle of water. and we can, and this is a problem in terms of what's getting into got most of the stuff in the market available are complimentary, not the basic needs. and by basic needs, i'm talking about food and water that is largely absent from the market. it's making life very difficult for people to hear. we say the good people just walk in for long. it stands into another district and they are by neighborhoods just to find water and come back. so this ongoing, exhausting a journey that they are doing every day on by the hour to find basic supplies and come back is a threatening the, their existence. they are threatening how long they can stay in an area that has been destroyed completely and nothing is left, no homes, no infrastructure, no public facilities whatsoever. and on top of that to make it worth no shelters
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for people to stay in and know basic supplies to help them survive these difficult conditions. i'm sorry, i wasn't on that most of the infrastructure. so we know that that make is making it incredibly difficult to distribute aid throughout the goals. district was a does actually guessing in and also the hospitals. i mean, we look specifically about the state that they are in so few and left functioning or partially functioning, or they overwhelmed because they are certainly also not getting the supplies that they need the fuel. but they need to continue treating the many thousands of people who were injured in this war. well the other day we were talking with the medical, a stipend from the hospital. and we know there were no hospitals left in the northern part of district, but we did not realize it was that bad because there is no hospitals lift that old . i accept the hospital that went to from a small charitable marriage in allies health facility in to
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a ministry and health facility serving thousands of people. now people of those who display palestinians who came back to the area used to have access to come out of the hospital, then an agent hospital at the hospital in the northern part of this trip to many of the privately owned the clinic on health centers. not anymore including auto, what health facilities do not exist anymore. now they're making the trip from here, from northern part of this trip to garza city, do that. 6 it gets met, it goes garrett from the hospital. that is really small, doesn't have the capacity to provide medical care for the hundreds of thousands of people, basically serving the entire golf. is the northern part of this trip on top of that, we don't medical supplies and the lack of medical supplies are not an issue for all the hospitals, but for this particular hospital. now it's the, it's a, it's a greater issue because of many that it's place people who are coming back already exhausted, ready drain, to reduce how experiencing health issues are,
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are need to be on certain medications that are not available at the hospital. and the obstruction of it's coming in including medical supplies are making it difficult for doctors to provide the proper medical care and is often times even after the bombs and stop falling. they're still making serious decision and they have to choose where to give them medical care and prioritize cases, which is a heart breaking for many families here who wants to see their family members. ok, unhealthy and go on by their life hunting. many things and they will not just gonna take you straight to copenhagen. francesca ebony z z you in special rockets only occupied pos, the entire truth. because holding a press conference that's estimate rise to, to see uh the room pre to talk to. and so many of you here are given dash to was quite so, so, so i mean, negatively surprised to understand the death to just yesterday that to,
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to problem. and in some media outlets in this country, something we decided to con. so our long shadow, the interview without any explanation and just our side of mind visit. um, so i do think that like in other countries including my own, danesh media, i could system is not immune to pressure, but i guess i was wrong and the police did that exception. so thank you very much for, for, for being here. the which coming dealer on this on. and so i have a dense program, a head this coming few days to talk about the human rights situation in your device policy and territory. here i did request an invitation or a coordination of damage to civil society actors and grassroots organizations. whoever worked hard for months to prepare this visit. um we are up to a very interesting and dangerous cross road. i think everyone senses that after
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550 months, the see saw your in gaza and the postage mutual release that are also he's a nurse but also the body. seeing inside there are many hostages of these all for array of hope. there is no question. however, the situation on the ground remains catastrophic despite all this. but let me start by putting you into black policy and terry tree and my the deluxe assessment in your mind. last year i go through that after 6 months 1st, and then 12 months of investigation. those together that there were reasonable grounds to believe that israel had could meet the docs of genocide in, in ga. so i also said last year that is the used what i called you many tardy and from a flash, used to justify it's already sensing does all by using international and you might,
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i download, you're going like, can human shields go out there? and i might just save souls and evaluation or there's an order to justify yet to normalize the i sold that i clips i sold on cbs life. and these us been used to come a flash arts of genocide. and in my 2nd report, i argued i could have continued to document the talks in the gaza, but it'll show that the violence that we had seen in gaza was leaking out across the rest of the occupied to punish the entire 3. and these was fighting parcel of a process of colonial there. he sure um the arguments that each fail wants to advocate or mouse, whatever it means or lead very into hostages, were not the main drive behind the whole song, destruction that he started as an east, a scouts off, as they warned on the 12th of october, 2020 t e 0 boot of trying to,
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to say is do paternity to get to moreland and forcibly displaced about a scene in people. my words were prophetic, you know, not attempt to, to put and use what some politicians gold a 2nd knock about. and in the process it does meet the dockets of genocide under the folk of floor. is there any, is there any public officials? i have a hold open, the advocate is for her to come at a share of gaza and for must displacement force displacement of body students. i think that happened in 1947, 49, and the 1967. all these to the allies, the, the, a state of israel for jews on the, from that even to, to see these continues as we speak because the genocide of the policy and it's still ongoing just did not begin in the even the 2023. we know that genocides are processes not ox, not single docks of genocide is
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a different crimes and we're crimes and crimes against humanity. we can not look for being done with the marketing failure. we need to take a step back and see the don't think then sion to destroy us, such a deep last thoughts and the bus to 15 months have led to the destruction. you know that to right the, i mean, i'm sure that i don't need to go through the least to update the 70 percent of homes destroyed the no more universities to know more schools. a few hospitals, the still standing and still this to me that the unable to function, there is no visibility to the human nor my life in gaza and blast. so the people who now move across that are both looking for the means of their, of their beloved ones trying to be dignified story or to them. or they are genocide survivors. they have survived 50 months, overland,
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less bomb being and keeping, including crews neither fire. so there is documentation of children who have been shopped at the door, so adding their head and they have been leaving in intends, without any access to load or any degree, find access to water, shut their food. and this is, i mean this, people need to be helped. this is what we should really absorb that. this is a population of genocide survivors. and they need to be rescued for 13. think all what's going to be the golf course because that's going to be the beast and we'd be beat. but no one that i to say how god so we'd be to build. it'd build other done deposit scenes. this is something that we need to absorb and let me keep for the. let me go fast forward. a. i'm shocked to see how indeed old international community, including countries in europe, heavy of deregistered, the size and make part of that shift that has been prompted by the i c
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j, the international court of justice advisory opinion last year. the fact that it's an advisory opinion doesn't mean that there's no binding it's binding because it's, but i, me stuck on knowing that all the bull norms of international law. these advisors are being in high school crowded. the easily presence, not just the media presence, is there any presence, both army and supplements. he's out of law for this to be seized unconditionally and, and as soon as possible and totally so easily needs to remove whatever my tdm, the material, tangible intangibles to be. and, and maybe by the task established and you could by punish the entire tree full stop . and there is also a deadline for it to happen. this is dean of the september this year. this is what the general assembly has given at the time frame for ease that has to die. and you know, why? because you completion crashes that i the sensitive information of the policy and
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people we western people, do not understand what sex determination is because we enjoy because we have the self determination is the right to exist fee as a people to the terminal one. so one, so i was just as a people, politically, economically culturally, is something that the body seeing it's going to do on that is that 8 or holding in delete the remains of that land. got just sweep westbank and these drews that and let me remind everyone this is the land of the international consensus, 100 and i would say at least 192 states minus the 0. so things might change right now, but it might be kind of $190.00 want. it's still ok. it's still international consensus . recognize the right of exclusive rights of self determination of state to the, to the upon a stance which doesn't mean the dish. people can not leaving you to bypass the 33. if they want to leave their festival, it will not be on stolen product bodies,
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stadium land, and it will not be that early citizens, they wouldn't be on their policy in law. as simple as that mean line isn't needs to with go and look in the face. so these, and these would be my last my last comment. i'm also shocked by the defiance of intern toward the international law. not just the abuse row, not just to be 0, but international. so most countries in the international community. but clearly the west, particularly the west, which has been preaching about compliance with international law, with each and every country in the global south for the past decades to the i. c. c, as he should, he should at the store and on 2 ways that i, a leaders deep on a student that either says well and there be, or how much, how much a leader says, well being killed or, and his go to that are to people who and there should be more, in my view, what i wanted by international is, can you, me,
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those court and the number of countries have brought him forward in order to shelter, to ensure that these people will be sheltered from accountability to have fully embraced impunity. international court of justice school who did already in january last year and then there was a plausible research um for and the rights protected for that. so if the policy that you guys are protected under the genocide convention, meaning you thought it would be nice if it was it'd be the genocide any does. he should not want twice, 3 times provision on measures that have no being complied with. of course, by eastern, but not just by useful because old member states including denmark of cleared responsibility toward international. this should suspend old ties, specially economic and media thought he dies with the service. so the question you should ask your governments, if you don't have not done yet is, well i, you doing to comply with the i c d, a bunch of opinion with the, with the i c. c, out of a storage, including by securing that are all my counties domestic mechanisms in place to
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investigate and prosecute anyone why you have to meet the cottons and you'll provide policy. net present and the filter by the policy and territory. and i'm a man, it's a regret, the bull that the fact that the, the government in this country is moving but in the opposite direction. because i understand that it's a intense to boss of law to make the investigation and prosecution all the crimes committed in part a sign and trust me, it will be like that. so are more difficult. so these, i'm, as someone who believes in human rights and justice, i firmly stands against these lawlessness and encourage the government of denmark to comply would say we need so big ations to stop doing anything that translates into eating enough to sting. these rose on know for the probation upside that the team and um and uh, present be an ongoing to the general side. thank you. thank you. let's
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open up for questions. 5, boards. take questions in the room 1st and then the online, please use the mike, ask you about your questions. if i could ask you to state your name and the media is your will. so starting with young world on the register, i'm the show russell of cindy from the executive intelligence reasons and invited states that are a 2 questions. the 1st is of a question about implementing animal waste plan for peace through economic development and connecting a political solutions to an economic solutions because of the my magazine back as so founding under the roof, back in 1975 came out with a racist plan for cooperation between an independent palestine is real,
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the regional countries, and now also possibly implementing the chinese for water. the selling is ation new um, water transfer canals, the basic model of infrastructure. so do you think that's something by this critical break, the cycle of violence and age by creating a future vision of cooperation, of for the benefit of everyone which couldn't help a pass from genocide, a trapeze and giving people holes. because you said in a recent interview, the past, what we do for bells and is a chance for humanity, most of what we want to do next. so could you comment on the need for international corporation for reconstructions and again the development including something like in the wages plans to ensure a decent future for hosting. and then i have
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a 2nd question number as possible. again. uh uh, well, have a couple hours. yeah. i can do a couple of questions on the other ones. okay. yeah, the other question is of course, uh, what do you say to president trumps statement yesterday that uh the united states should take over because as for sure out all the account settings i was waiting for this question and then um so in before being at the special ed office or the or provide policy and territory. i've devoted a decent number of years on to the question of palestine as a, as a, you know, feel 1st and then as a scholar and they know the question about assign, assumed the perspective and to the story. the experience of the people i've seen in
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brokerages, in fact that we shouldn't call them. but as the under hudy's we should go the policy and not give us advisors because these gives everything from the body stand . but the fact of being refugees, norton just being in a having the is like, it's not just a matter of legal status, it's matter of having being deprived of the homeland that does, edward said used to say existed one existed one day and he's normal. and so i sense i can send you 4 decades for decades, the international community has 3 to the questions of thought, a sign of something that could be managed in perpetuity. so through mean solve development and economic incentives and encouraging grow. so whatever it means and, and or managing it does that,
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you might need audio traffic. you might need audio and cautious. and frankly, after, let's say at least $5657.00 and it's not impacted 76 years. it doesn't work. and even a why, because phone calls say for nomic development bus to happen, of course, cooperation is a, is necessary, but not at the expense of send them into the rights and freedoms. which is what? east through the united states motor openly that never and others seem to policy and seems to expect that the policies will accept like only indigenous people in the world, the policy and will never surrender. they will, they would fight them. they will resist. i mean, when i see fight, i do not mean arm the resistance, they will fight for recognition of their rights and their under dignity. and so no, i didn't. the short answer is no economic piece or 2 ago nomic development is uh,
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is uh, expectation of surrender. and it will not work because every one has the right as the right to be free, and to again substitute their munition lots of people. this is a collective right. the question was including a of, oh, i am a sovereign alice time when, but this is not to a test be no talk to, i mean it's the argument of a silver a and e d easy was does it a daughter go a lot and i mean just to keep the cutting the air because that when he comes to, you know, the only thing that is to be done and not to have a pilot to allow what part of cnn state is going to fund, excuse me, in boss there is no to farm the policy and also already is the policy and i was already dealt with a form. this is not the of our business. we don't go to other countries telling them we should probably be in some countries. the telling people advised people home to elect your us from the us. right. and,
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and we don't do so the same thing applies to the palestinians. i mean, the only thing we need to do to ensure that the international community needs to do to ensure a policy and stayed. so make sure that you started with those troops, supplements, controlled over news or resources. i've seen that there is no other way around the rest. if i paul chrissy, and frankly the world has had enough of it. so not because i'm going to happen. and so that didn't the next fall into a raising ease. ease of economic development, going to break the cycle of violence. no, no, i mean, and i, i'm hungry. if there is one thing that i'm 100 percent. sure. all the answer at these know, and this is mean what happened in the last 50 months. what has been 50 months ago and what has happened over and over the violence in, in thought of style. and let's feel by day, by the bland, i bought a scene. and as i mean, the economic violated people, they are people who want to live in peace and freedom. and the fact that they might
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have resorted to violence in the body of the boys. and the might have committed kinds against these that i used during 76 years old, but of this book, session, and displacement is the east to be that as meeting the violence they have been subject to. so the only way to stop the cycle of violence is to give a decent chance that so freedom to phone that it go conditional, feed them. and this is not going to bring it to a decent future for the palestinians, only for the polishing and sundays at eighty's. i always have tried to have this inclusive language because we did, i few is that a lease wire fighting against genocide against the probation indicates apartheid and to should not be in the supplies that they are an important factor in the process. because they didn't strong where to start.
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should the short answer to your question is what he proposes ease after no sense is what after nonsense is nonsense and it's law sol. when he proposes it's, i mean people to go back in the cleansing it. no, it's worse. it's worse, it's force displacement, eating, fighting to meet force displacement, which is an international crime force displacement and further this procession. and in the, in the context of a genocide to, i mean it truly strengthen the complicity in the kinds that he said out of the house being cool, meeting or the past 50 months. and before and you know, it's lawful immoral. any responsible, it's completely responsible because it will make that agent as kaiser's even worse,
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and the truly hope that people will stay called with not panic. i will remember that the international community is made all $193.00 states, and this is the time to be for the us. so what can cause me looking for? i still nation and the end, but there should this is the opportunity to revive or to to give the meaning a tool. cool, but ation prime, based upon the respect to basic rules that can dimensional lloyd. therefore, reason and you cause that he's the haig, i don't know if you have phone the, the, the new should leave low just recently by 9 and 9 countries in the hague and the hague group. a number of states who have committed to implement basic major is to ensure that a cock account ability and end of impunity in deal combined policy and territory. this is a model that others should should follow. and they truly hope that denmark was
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