in delay to us, essentially, it too was destroyed. but no cause to prey. it originate once more from it's leaning. you minarette the give the city it's nickname, the hunchback, hold on the head, but in arabic, i me a the how the human welcome. the symbolism of these different houses of worship lies in the fact that they are close to each other. reflects the harmony between religious and ethnic communities that existed in the city before the war. the connection with these heritage races is deeply rooted in the memory of the people of most so that's why attacking them was meant to target their rocky people's identities. 80 percent of the old city was destroyed during this, the occupation, and the subsequent to take it back for a place of in 2017, a closing to units. cool. most of that was once one of the most diverse cities in the middle east, with body as religious and ethnic communities living side by side. that diversity was reflected in its rich cultural heritage until it was invaded by eisen. now as

the city is as training to the gain, it says pitt culture plays acute, who in post conflict reconstruction, but many other sites on a student rulings unexploded bombs. and that lack of lights and infrastructure in some areas, make it impossible for thousands of families to return home. and i be a t 4 dash drivers in troubleshooting. this is my house, my relatives and my neighbors. and i have been renting houses in other areas for nearly 8 years. the city doesn't rebuild their houses and won't let us rebuild them either. the in this complex or 4 ancient tissues sort of the substance of damage. after 4 years of hard work incorporation with units cool. only one has been rebuilt . hello, i'm out of the, i'm a goes around the restoration operations. take a lot of time and effort to because it involves meticulous listing of rub up progress, getting every tiny cracked in a stone or break and preserving heritage. there were sophisticated methods. they

are then really used to bring the building back to normal as much as possible. the 70 is on thousands of books. many scripts of dfcs listed on accounted for. but these are true and serve as a code of the holders of war. and symbols of on hand drifts in the history of humankind would have to do. i hate under the utah most of the northern the lock a well that said, so this shows in use continues of to refrain the pumps agenda. it includes everything from tax cuts to integration, but how much is real and how much is bluster? is iran footprint across the middle east? franky beach trump administration is waiting options to end the rest of your brain

more. but what does it mean for you or acoustic a look at us politics, the bottom line. the only thing that's right is have, is the power of hope, is that they create a new world that we can see possibility we can create another universe that we think, yes, because it allows you to think different k it brings in an image that you never have filled off and actually brings of closer to home things. it's closer to you. the info at the level 2. and in this series we'll be discussing one of the biggest stories of our time, the war and gaza. and today how palestinian artists are responding to it. my guess this week is gaza. bourne writes, a director and academic osman masoud. his work sets out to tell every day stories from palestine. he's within the detective stories such and gaza cold come what may . and a black comedy called the shroud maker,

or having grown up in the body of refuge account and siblings, and sime, they would fall under israel, sees the man. thank you so much for being here with us today. i know that someone from gaza this must be an incredibly difficult time for you. there isn't the family i'm in gaza that hasn't suffered personally. that hasn't lost loved ones on a new family is is no difference. can i ask you about your brother khalid? sure. so my brother was killed on the 22nd of january earlier this year and he was shots by what we call like what's called a quote come to is this new user, 80 machine, which is a mixture between a drone and had a cup to that. we think is run by a guy and makes decisions by shooting directly. he was walking down the street

going to get bread for his family. he was shot and uh, the tanks and phones. so he was left bleeding on the street for 3 days. um, after 3 days of intensive bombing and shooting in the area and nobody could get there eventually his cuz and my cousins went to get him and he was still alive. and he died on the way to as they moved him or not, don't keep costs to get him to hospital side. there being an ambulance. had that been a, a part of me that he probably would've left. but unfortunately, there wasn't, i'm, i'm so sorry to hear this and, and also you, you had lived in and you had lived in go the for all your life until you came to london. and there must have been all the times when he was separated from his family because of or because of conflict. but this time seems a so much small, devastating. how are you coping? i don't know has the is the right on,

so i don't know how i'm going to be honest with you. i feel i need to stay strong for my family and because people's need me that right now and every aspect, whether it is 3 emotional support or financial support or 3 simply connecting them with each other, keeping the news flowing between members of the family. so i see this is my role at the moment and that's how them coping. but also i think the other thing is writing really i think writing has because it has been an amazing thing for me in terms of coping respect. i'm very therapeutic and allowed me to process those emotions that are being missionaries squeezed and ringed inside me to come out in the form of a palumbo, or, or, or a short story or a thoughts or play. um, because with uh to you were able to drain those emotions that a little bit and come out with something a little bit beautiful and kind of look at it and see those emotions without the wounds. that's come with it. you said before our ours is resistance and our

resistance is aren't. and you are obviously a novelist. you have many hats as a writer, but over this past year your twitter account has performed as a kind of a very new service in a way you're using it as a diary, so it's very direst it. mm hm. but you're also letting us, while you talk about your sister, about your nieces and nephews, your family. there were also telling us of the ongoing horrors of, of the constant. is there any bombardment? and at the same time, as you just mentioned, you started to write poetry, which is not something you've done before last year. so has your life as a writer changed considerably? i mean, in, in ways that you hadn't quite imagined over this past year completely. i mean, it changed in the way that was a account sleep. so most of my poetry and writing is coming out, lack of sleep. i'm so. so it's a lot of, uh, thoughts and some subconscious thoughts i,

i suppose. and so real thoughts sometimes i write at night late at night and then wake up in the morning and look at what i've written such, i've never done that before. the fact that i'd write poetry now, i love poetry, so much is amazing, but i never always been able to write poetry before and somehow it came out. it came out with the 1st time that i read to my brother, because i needed to say something, but i couldn't put it into a play or a plot or a climax or a twist and turn that there is no twist and turn squad clear as a genocide, so how do you express that? how do you actually talk about a genocide and your emotions? seeing not just your family suffer, but also the place that you loved to play, see through it and go up and unrecognizable accounts. i can't recognize because at the moment how do i really talk about it and how do i see it right now? i'm right. that made a conscious decision to ride the bus because i made that decision a long time ago because i wanted to. and now seeing that city being destroyed,

this housing me so much and i would love to write more about the city that it was in the city that it will be rather than the city that it is right now that everybody's showing on the news. can you, can you describe for us that city that it was because the rest of us um maybe some people knew the things of god. but over the last year we've just seen images of, of devastation of destruction. mm hm. um and we lost sight of what it was before. can you tell us about that city that you remember? beautiful chaos. somehow he had, think of not play very much. so when i went to natalie for the 1st time, i was like that said of arrive to the, this is the european version of cause of mediterranean visits. a range in town was live. it's the alley's as old town as a market is as, as noise, and hustle and bustle and cafes, and restaurants and, and see if there's an odd when you use and shops and, and people who smile a lot and make a lot of jokes. and he thought of chilly, that's what i got,

that was and, and this because i, i remember, but i do remember the 1st time i went from jabante account, which is very different when i was coming up is quite an oppressive. there was no infrastructure. there was no sewage system, for example, in there um to go through kansas city and i saw these places of, you know, the on the most that was built in the 2nd century or so which is now destroyed and unfortunately, and pass a pass a pallet. so it's an altima, beautiful building, and i work through the little i live that was like a little child looking at this beautiful city. think of damascus from that perspective and jerusalem and, and, and hold of the places i went to come back to childhood but, but you mentioned the great i'll marry, most of which has been destroyed. there's also the church of saint paul, serious, which is thought to be the 3rd oldest church and the world that has been destroyed by it's rarely bombardment or how, how does one fight to keep that cultural heritage?

because guys, it was known as a cultural hub, palestinians, and among an arabs as well. mm hm. how do you fight to keep that alive? through writing mostly, and i think latricia is a footprint. the thing that will survive in the future to hundreds or 300 years from, from now on will be a pub in, or, and novel. or overlook of that sort of represented that. i don't think we have a responsibility as palestinians and that's odd to this. but also as international solidarity to kind of keep that alive as much as possible. i don't think many people now talk about the home or the most common or the judge. i think that's been forgotten already. it pains me. and the reason it pennsville is also because it is in my novel come with may make is a lot of events like are set and that in the ashes of the mosque and underneath in the tunnel, the cetera. and it's gone and people don't know about it. so i think we have a responsibility as right as in the office, but also as an international solidarity movement to continue to talk about that and

also later on hold as well as responsible because they are destroying or you must go, well haven't these sites, you know, and that is an international crime. so, so making sure that we talk about it and social media, if we find a way of a token making films out or whatever it is, i think we should on reading. i mean, we have responsibilities as, as readers as well. and you mentioned that you grew up in w a refugee come me and i want to ask you how it was that literature found you or you found interest. so what did stories mean to you as a young boy? i mean, i grew up as a refugee. i lived with stories from my father and my grandfather and my grandmother about this beautiful house that we had. and what is now is ro that, that my grandfather was rich. he had this beautiful again, autumn in house, built from the jerusalem stone that i sort of living to the stories. in the meantime, i'm listening to all of this and that the imagination and the, well,

the power, little universe that i'm told about. and, and what i go through on a daily basis as a, you and refugee card that i have to go every wednesday to collect the aides for my assignment a, which consisted from some piece of bread and cooling be right. so i wanted to know little bit more about that, about the literature and about this kind of the stories that people like, but living 3, my father studied arabic literature and he said what he was so much into books and my, our house didn't have much food but a lot of books, you know, so at the age of 9 i read lennon and somebody that was on the left side. you know, i read by the age of 10. i read, oldest son can offend. he swore including the, the, how this thing and novelist who was killed in 1972 for his writing. we had about 4 volumes of mine with those books that my dad used to go to the markets. that we didn't get food, he would get 2nd handbooks and set them up. so that's how literature and books

funding. um, oh, you know, you mentioned the genocide a something that is constantly changing something that's you called go to sleep and wake up in the morning without finding new devastation, a new horrors on. certainly no one has escaped this in gaza, but there has also been, i'm not talking about journalist here, there's also been a concerted effort to kill right to, to kill poets, to kill translators on it. i want to ask you, what is it about rights? is that a so dangerous? and what power devices have, if any, against this kind of the race or i think the only thing that's right is have, is the power of hope. is that they create a new world that we can see a possibility. we can create another universe, i believe we think yes, because it allows you to think different k it brings in an image that you never have filled off. and actually brings of closer to home things,

it's closer to you. i don't think opponent has changed the world or, or changed politics or governments, etc. but it made a huge difference to that. and hope hope is a huge power and hope makes a huge difference. how it is a huge power, so prizes have no actual physical power, then the sites as they're not, you know, going on the frontline and doing it. they are risk getting a lot in their lives. many writers have received tests or threats in cause of 5 is right now me before they were killed and target them because they know that there is the possibility that we will change people's hearts and minds. you mentioned the mood the wish earlier, and he's one of my favorite poets. he said we do. what prisoners do? we cultivate hope to what is your hope for the future? i want my help for the future. i think is that for the whole thing to be resolved as much as possible and the big believe it or for one state solution as my what i advocate for, i think it can happen. it will happen that whole. so the hope is that the us

palestinians are seen as normal people as duma hammons. and we are taken seriously not by just by our ending. these are people who don't like us, but also by our friends as well as that ever seen as, as right. as, as doctors, as engineers, as, as economics, as, as normal people, we have the good and the bad, the, they, the heroes and villains and all of these things. so we know some sort of extra terrestrial people who are just life terrorist or really victims or whatever it is . we don't complete society and then people need to understand that and, and the dates, the way to do it is to read more of our work, read our poetry, read our books, connect with us as much as possible, saving net right now. but on social media, people from guns are writing some really on is sort of accounts, you know, not just criticizing as well in the west. and none of this is not just angry about that. they're also angry about the tradesmen who are charging high interest with, you know, money transfer and goods and they're writing hold of the recording on of that. and

i think it's our responsibility to be in touch with that as much as possible and to see people as humans as possible. i'm going to turn to the audience now and for some questions for osmond. we've got a question in the front to hi everyone i'm. my name's as addition sharma on the right and i'm the director of an independent publisher called the $87.00 price. we've recently works closely with me to reduce the statement in support videos. and my question is we've seen across the world, a lot of writers, culture institutions and office standing up to support the progress the end of the ration. but i'd like to know what more we can do, aside from boy called i think this is a really good question. i think that a lot of rights as an office has to the uh to support the kind of thing and close. and then 10 to the knowledge stage and sundays, really? genocide for sure. however, i don't think it's enough. i think there are a lot of many, many,

many other writers who haven't yet. i don't have time for rights as an odd to say don't you haven't stood up and said, hey, this is, this is, this is wrong. what, what are you doing or expressed an opinion about it because those people influence uninspired, a lot of other people as well. and i think be we should be as an international solidarity movement and publishes not and gauge with those people. and this is the time for naming and shame and say, no, i'm sorry, i kind of left with you because that's the only way to set up a pressure on them to change the direction in terms of saying what i should. well, now mind writing is being effective. now i'm gonna stuff up personally because nobody's going to read my books or publishes. i'm not going to publish my email, not my list. i don't know if you saw this. there was a counter lesher published authors had signed on to boycott is really cultural festivals and things. we've met with the counter protest letter and in that letter and people defending israel said that it was dangerous and then liberal me to

boycott cultural institutions. what, what's your response to that? i mean, this is the classic kind of argument that boy is dangerous because you need to engage with the other side and this method to have that conversation rather not have that conversation. there is, there's an argument there that i'm happy to debate. i'm happy to go and dive deep into. however, at this time when there is genocide for anybody who is complicit on who's supportive of this genocide then no, i don't think there is a moment of dialogue and kind of having that relationship. and that, that connection with is there a cultural institutions, for example, if we think about is ready to see it as most of the most state from the and most of them have kind of a relationship with the government of, of some thoughts. and must have been end up performing in illegal settlements and in the west bank. so there's a big case for boy cuts. there's a big case for saying that actually, that doesn't sits well with my moral morality and my principles. all the questions

and the lady in the front. a. hi, my name's recess. i'm an act time was a positive cultural organizations as the to white guy collective who stand we as and for. and so these are 2 published indians. and, and i mostly said helping to set up a jewish altis network for palestine. and i've met him. we've seen the intensification of the ratio of posting and stories and the chilling and cowardly silence and censorship from cultural organizations. first they do feel that they all sectors fail, palestinians, and can you also talk about the role of resistance in it's particularly from groceries? organizations, you know, is the 3rd intifada, going to be a cultural one. i think the sector in the u. k. and in many other countries has failed palestinians a long time ago. and not just now by the way, i think institutions have

a this engaged to is the palestine about sort of studied 80 years ago. so i particularly when, when, when uh, colvin came to power and became the leader of the position that was actually a defining moment for testing and address for us. and i'll give you my experience an example. i had scheduled place to be certain vineyards and when that's of the height of the anti semitism debates of the labor party and the issue around the neighbor punched in general equipment which has nothing to do with my face of the night. if i creation my play was cancelled for no reason, you know, from the service the news because people started to see us as like, oh, if i put a type of thing in a play or story or, or, or whatever it is, then i'm taking size and i'm, i'm being and to submit that there was no chance for us to kind of break through this and many cultural organizations and up to, to have, you know, works about palestine written by non how this thing is. i'm gonna get back to the

point around the next uh intifada. is it, is it a cultural intervention? i think by yes, that is happening already. i think seen a palestine in the last 1015 years. if you look at the cultural production that in terms of see its a cinema, we have more cinema coming out of kind of fun than syria and lebanon combines in terms of films, which is incredible, right? so see if they've got a so many see other companies in the west bank and gaza as well. i think now we need to rebuild that and see to make sure to focus on that as much as possible. so that doesn't get killed because i'm out of office killed already, but the idea and the important self at the end, the residence at the end present himself and doesn't go away. i think we need to continue to imagine as much as both as possible support palestinian artists. so yes and cultural intifada, it's happening already. how is it going to peak? i don't know. yes. this gentleman in the back. yeah. hi, my name is simeon. i live in london, i'm currently

a teacher in training and rapper. so someone who, uh, someone who enjoys writing, i'm an advocate about how words turn i can help make sense of the emotions. and so after seeing all this senseless carnage taking place, what's the one piece of writing that you wrote that is helped to cope with all the sensors? carnage that's been taken place has a really good question. i have a piece of writing that helps me code. um, well i think 2 pieces of pricing, i guess um for 3 if i may, 1 is um, depend to my brother. i think uh is uh, yeah. is it mainly for us as everything's like in there and remember him as, as beautiful as he was. and the 2nd one i wrote a poem called to gaza with hope. and it's i just talked to god the city has the city with buildings and things like that. and i really like,

and i like that probably. and because i said almost a pledge for me and i read it quite a lot to remind myself that i will remember because that has a beautiful place, not as a destroyed place this. and this said, this is actually the 5 minute play. hold this lowest the for 5, and it's about this, this uh, this a 3 story. so this guy in real 5 and the refugee can sending flowers and i thought, my god, what made you think this is what people need right now? you have no. so you do, you have no, you know, basic stuff, but to you go home to the 10 to or pots and that to your kids and say, i've got to a flower. and the, the great thing about it was that the people were buying people, you know, buying extreme, the expensive flowers, where did they come from? how much to the risk his life for. and this, those beauties of people that change a lot about what you see with that. so with your work, i would advise if you're writing about kind of things, look for these things more then you look for, you know, domestic i, with 20 people. the news comes, the stories covers the numbers,

covers the bodies covers the atrocities off into, for use of how do i get that emotion in the because i have the power on the weapon of fluids and symmetry and metaphors and beautiful things. how can i do it? and i want to say this actually, because you are not just you also having a responsibility with this uh to help us with tons of things as much as possible soon. right. that's the right thing about the dentist and i think everyone should drive about it and how you feel about it, because it is affecting you as much as affecting me. you know, it's damaging you as much as in the midst of damaging all of us. but i wonder if he would read for us the poem to brother had it. sure. um, i should say that this probably my only rent once in public. um it does make me quite emotional. so if i stopped pa, for 3 apologies. um. so this plan is called the highlands i had it

is my older brother killed on the 22nd of january, 2024 to kind of it turned on a 0 name and out of it. so stay in motel. be on the, on the boat, the lines of this well beyond the pain, the only once you have seen in gaza the on the child screams of hunger and fear you will be in a smokeless bottomless place. so wait for me, brother, be patient and don't leave. you're only allowed to leave once. when i get that, i don't want to see you sad or old hungry or tired, scared of bones or big tanks, frustrated the words just stayed as the way t excited lads wanting to play the wood and cycle to the beach. i will practice playing new songs and i will show up in the meantime, while you wait, you can find someone to teach them how to send wood to make beautiful furniture,

or teach the kids how to play marbles brilliantly. you can keep your big smile as the busy yourself doing things for others. like you have always done whatever you do, just stay there. i'm coming. i want below the thank you so much so that that's such a beautiful and, and moving tribute. thank you for sharing it with us and thank you for being on, reframe today. it's been a privilege to speak to you and thank you to all of you for joining us for this important conversation. the

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