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. ringback hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. president donald trump is putting the world on. notice that he's calling the shots and he is going to change. well, just about everything, but where is it going? let's get to the bottom line. the president trump wasted no time in this for a few days and office telling americans and the world that there's a new sheriff in town. he quit the paris climate accords and the world health organization. any pro is most foreign aid until the staff have time to review throwing americans humanitarian programs indicate us. he mobilize the military to

round up migrants living in the us without residency papers. and when columbia protested the way it citizens were being sent back, the country was threatened with massive tariffs, columbia. vin blinked and back tracked on its complaints. he's also been belligerent with his closest neighbors, mexico and canada. officially re branding the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america is hammered. denmark's prime minister trying to bully her into selling greenland to the united states. he was involved in the gaza cease fire even before he took office. and now he's working to blow out the flames of the ukraine rusher conflict . so where is all this leading? what is trumps world view? are we seeing the emergence of a new american we all politic in the world or our global intentions? going to go from bad to worse. today we're talking with one of america's pre eminent political sciences, john mearsheimer, professor a political science at the university of chicago. john, it is terrific to be with you today and look if there ever was an inflection point

in foreign policy, donald trump coming in seems to be one of those. and so let me just ask you, what do you think donald trump strategic map looks like? what should look like from the mirror shiner perspective, a well, he's inherited a set of problems from jo by the 2 principal problems that he's inherited that he has to deal with or the conflict. so we're the genocide in gaza. number one. and number 2, he has to figure out how to settle the ukraine war. we could say there's a 3rd big issue we asked to think about, which is how to deal with the ran and especially iran's nuclear program. but the agenda has been clear since the day that trump got elected as to what are the problems he has to solve. which disturbing is that there's no evidence that trump and his advisors have come up with any sort of meaningful solution for dealing with

any of these 3 problems. i think that's both the parent and the case of ukraine. i mean, you would have expected him once he got in the white house, given all his claims about how he was going to settle this thing very quickly. maybe even before he moved it to the white house, does he may be making progress in that regard. but there's no evidence of that, so i don't see much change now that trump is in charge. well, let me ask you one element of the global seeing that you didn't mention that i want to get into later in the show is china. so we've got ukraine, russia, you've got gaza, you've got your ron, but china sort of out there. it is. been one of the, you know, the uh, touch points for donald trump's campaign and his focus. but he seems to have wound down some of the tensions you and i have talked before saying there's no more important challenge for the united states down the road down the road and

organizing its affairs to deal with the china challenge. you know, has that fallen off the trunk map? there's no question that containing china is of great importance to the united states. in my opinion, it is the principal mission. but the problem that we face, and by the face of this problem as well, is that we're pin down and ukraine and we're pinned down in the middle east. and the last thing we need is troubled in east asia with china. so we have gone to great lengths not to get into any kind of crisis or shooting match with the chinese . the chinese on their part have a number of domestic problems, both economic and political, which gives them little incentive to cause trouble and take advantage of the fact that were pinned down in the middle east and, and ukraine. and that's the reason that i think china is on the back burner, and it's ukraine, or ran and gaza that are on the front burner. well,

let's take these in some order. let's look at the ukraine, russia just before president trump's integration. i happen to run into general keith kellogg. kellogg is donald trump's envoy for resolving the ukraine. russia mess. and donald trump had been saying is, you know, that he would solve it in 24 hours. and then trump said, well, maybe it'll take 6 months. general kellogg said it's gonna take me a 100 days. so as you kind of look at it, look of the attention and you have been an advocate for negotiating, seeing negotiations between russia and ukraine as a key piece that needed to move forward. now that it's moving forward, do you worry that donald trump could agree or push a deal? they've gives russia a green light to expand further in what used to be considered sphere of influence? i don't think that donald trump is going to reach a meaningful agreement with the russians,

and i can explain why. and i think the end result is that this war is going to go on. and i think the russians have a vested interest in taking more territory than the for all bloss and crime me, which they've already. and next. so i think the, the in the, what we'll get here is a frozen conflict. not any form of meaningful peace agreement. and the russians will have a big slice of territory, which will have devastating consequences for ukraine. now, why is it the case that ice thing that you won't get a meaningful peace agreement? it's because of the conditions that prove this put forth. who is said to get negotiations going just to get in negotiations going was ukraine and the west have to recognize that ukraine will never join nato and ukraine will be a genuinely neutral state. furthermore, ukraine and the west have to accept the fact that russia has next these 40 boss

plus crimea those or absolutely essential for me to start negotiations. i find it impossible to imagine how the west and ukraine are both going to agree to those conditions. and if they don't agree to those conditions, hooton's gonna continue to push, push forward on the battlefield. listening to you, john, are you saying that you expect donald trump to fail in achieving a piece of chord between ukraine and russia? yes, i don't think you're going to get a piece of court. i think what you're going to get is a frozen conflict. in other words, i think the russians are eventually going to reach the point on the battlefield, where it's clear they are victorious. and the conflict will stop much the way the korean war ended in 1953. you'll get some form of armistice. but i think it is. and i'm choosing my words carefully here in light of your question. i think it's

virtually impossible to get a meaningful piece agreement where we shut down this war and ukraine and the west on one side and the russians on the other side. work out a mode is the band i that last i don't think that is possible. now i want to emphasize that i've been wrong in the past, and i may be wrong here, and i hope i am wrong, because there's nothing more that i'd like to see then a meaningful peace agreement between ukraine and russia and russia and the west. let me ask you about president trump's reason, comments about goss and the palestinians. they, i should remind people that there are around 200000 palestinians that have been killed or injured since october 7th in this crisis. and donald trump says israel should we just just clean it out and move all the people away, which i don't know by any other term might be known as ethnic cleansing. but talking about moving people away and just giving this entire swath of gaza

to is really control. what are your thoughts? i think it's number one morally reprehensible. number 2, it is literally illegal. and number 3, it's not going to work. uh, these rallies have been pounding the living daylights out of the palestinians since october 7th. indeed, i believe they've been engaged in a genocide. this is all for the purposes of dr. being the palestinians out of gaza and they have failed. and you now have a ceasefire, which is an admission of defeat by the use rally their strategy to ethically cleanse cause. so that was their principal goal has failed. and this tells you that the palestinians have no intention of believing in the jordanians. and the objections who would in trump scheme take in these palestinians have made it on it

quickly. clear that this is unacceptable. so i don't see how this is going to happen, which from my point of view is all for the good. because as i said, i find is morally reprehensible. i'm wondering about jordan and egypt who are also important, essential regional allies and partners of the united states. and do we reach a point where donald trump is just super tough with our best friends? and frankly in the region. and you see a reversal potentially on issues about re relocating palestinians from guys. it is possible. there's no question that the united states acts as a bully on the world stage. and that's especially true with regard to president trump. uh, she has very powerful tendencies to act like a bully and there's no question that sometimes works. it has significant cost. however,

because of the states often times don't cooperate with you. and the question is, will the egyptians and the jordanians break? when trump puts pressure on them, i think they will not, and i think they will not because they understand they run the risk of being overthrown by their populations. and if they decided to cooperate with the ethnic cleansing of gaza, it would cause them huge problems at home. and i don't think they want to run that risk or furthermore, even if they do agree, you still have to drive the palestinians out. and there is no evidence that the palestinians are willing to participate voluntarily in a 3rd. but i'm interested in whether you think some of the fundamental alliances that america has in the world, like with japan, like with nato nations, are up for review and essentially up to be redrawn. the truth is steve alliances

mattered and gravely for the united states. i mean, if you're interested in containing china, which the united states clearly is, you want to have excellent relations with your east asian allies. you don't want to be slapping them around all the time and causing all sorts of friction inside of those alliances. furthermore, even with regard to the europeans, you want to have good relations with the europeans because you want the europeans to cooperate with you on the economic front with regard to china. and furthermore, if you're the united states and you're committed to shutting down the war and ukraine, you have to work closely with you, europe, and allies. and again, slapping them around, doesn't solve the problem. it just exacerbates the problem, shutting down the ukraine more and with regard to canada and mexico, they are our neighbors. we have a vested interest in having good relations with them. we have a lot of course of leverage over them because we're really powerful. but you mili

80 number at the same time, we're trying to get our way is not the way i would bargain or deal with either canada or mexico. if china is the big challenge and you're like trying to on shore and reassure manufacturing back to america. bring back capacity or look at french or don't you need friends for french or? yeah, you absolutely do. you know, i'm a realist or ex lot, steve and as a good realist, i emphasize hard power, right. but i'm smart enough to understand that hard power alone does it make for good for a policy. you also need soft power. you need diplomacy. you need to have an ideology that other countries find to be friendly. it's an ideology that other countries respect. and that's why the united states used to emphasize so strongly, it was a liberal democracy and then other countries should emulate us and see us as the

city on the hill. this was all part of air soft power approach to dealing with the world. now again, i believe hard power is more important than soft power, but you need soft power. and what the trump administration appears to be doing at this point in time is taking the soft power approach and throwing it in the garbage and thinking that we can rely exclusively on hard power. we can run around the world using the fact that we have a big stick to bully, all sorts of countries to do what we want them to do. uh, some of that will work, as i said before, but it's not the best way to do business by any means, especially in a world where you need allies. let me ask you for a moment about one of the other major players in the world is really prime minister netanyahu, who in my book seems to be on a role became and he was in office, looked like he was up, you know, dealing with legal problems and legal challenges, october 7th happened. and when you kind of take a step back, even though you can say israel had one of the biggest intelligence failures of its

history. on october 7th, when you look, since you see the pages and walkie talkies blown up, you see the has blog network essentially blown up. you'll see a has blog and how mos leadership, designated assassinated inside iran. and you'll see the fall of the charlotte side in syria because of the lack of support of some of, of, of his allies like iran in russia. and when you look at that, and the way in which the middle east terrain has changed for netanyahu, would you agree with me that netanyahu is not a bit of a role right now? you know, i think you're dead wrong. i think you've been listening too much to is really propaganda and is real. i'll be propaganda. first of all, let's talk about causes. this really is lost and gosh, there was supposed to destroy from us. right. they weren't going to leave. they were going to ethically plans, at least northern gaza. they were going to remain on the philadelphia wine, which separates egypt from gaza. they've given up on all those things,

they admit that i'm boss is alive and well. so that's a was with regard to as the law has, but why has not disappeared? there is no question that they de decapitated the leadership there, but the leaders were replaced and they did some damage to as the law, but has been a lot is still there. well armed. and furthermore, the purpose of going to have to, has blog was so that those hundreds of thousands of his rallies, who would have band and the door and move to the center of his real could go back home. well, even though you have a cease fire against a with regard to it has the law, those people are not moving north, they are afraid to move north with regard to rand, as you will know or ran is on the threshold of acquiring nuclear weapons is closer than ever, and the idea that the is rallies can go in there in wacko ran and reca ran. i don't think that's the case at all. i think the one place where these realities have been

successful is in syria. and i think that syria was an important conduit for sending rainy and arms to has boss. and that conduit for the time being anyway has been shut off. but even there, i bet a lot of money that has blog will eventually be fully re armed. uh, then you have to deal with the fact it is real uh has uh, been accused of genocide. uh that, uh, the international criminal court has issued arrest warrants against both then yahoo and his former defense ministry jo off the lot. this is a huge moral stain, i israel's reputation that will not go away. and indeed, in my opinion, will get only worse with the passage of time. once people have a chance to reflect and write books and write articles to produce documentaries on what's happened in gaza. so if you look around at the situation that is real,

is it today? and in particular the situation that netanyahu is it today. she is in deep trouble, as is the country just why it's so great to have you on the show, john. make sure we get all the, you know, the, the, the frames right. but prime minister netanyahu is coming to washington soon and we'll be meeting president trump. what do you think drunk should tell him a trump or to tell them the basic facts of life, which is that is real, isn't trouble. and it is real needs to get out of this problem with the palestinians. it's been facing for decades. and that the only way to do that is to reach some sort of political. ready accommodation with the palestinians, i mean, the one really positive aspect of donald trump, which separates him from most american for a policy makers, especially people like joe biden, is the trump is not a war monger. trump is not interested in fighting wars. a trump is much more

interested in diplomacy and political settlements, not war. uh, and these rallies on the other hand, don't really believe in diplomacy or trying to work out a political settlement with the palestinians. they believe in the big stick diplomacy, what they call the iron wall. what they think they could do is beat the living daylights out of the post and get them to submit. this hasn't worked and it's not going to work in the future. and what trump should tell them that in yahoo, this is what i mean when i talking about the basic facts of life. that there are real limits to what you can do with military power and situations like the one that you face with regard to the palestinians. the only solution is a political solution, not a military solution. one of the achievements of the last comp in ministration. the president trump talks a lot about are the abraham accords and talking about saudi arabia. and you can just sort of feel palpably both trumps fascination with saudi arabia and saudi

arabia. wanting to actually do a deal with this real. but palestine being the not that's just in the way of that and i'm interested as you know, you just drew a map of really, you know, graphic map of what's going on in the region that, that i think you think iran is less out of it than a lot of other analysts are saying, how do you see that map changing a saudi arabia in iran continue to compete in the rate region for security and essentially stature or hardly at all. i think the abraham records don't matter for what happens does say, i don't think the abraham records matter for what happens 11 on for what happens in syria or for what happens with regard to a rand. how does a peace deal between saudi arabia and israel? that's basically sanctioned or backed up by the united states, influence any of those conflicts in air. it just doesn't matter very much. but isn't it useful to have basic assumptions?

key 1st principles about security, natural security alliances, tested to see what we really care about in that sense is truck providing a service? yeah, i do think the truck provides an important service in that regard. just to build on your description of the foreign policy establishment. i think the foreign policy establishment does not top or a descent. we have a particular world view locked into the foreign policy establishment that spans both political parties as i like to say, the republicans and the democrats are tweedle dee and tweedle dom. and if you look at all most oh, of trump's advisors, it's hard to distinguish their views from the views of joe biden and his advisor. trump is a real anomaly here. and as we all know, this is why he had so much trouble getting his way. the 1st time he was in the white house between 20172021. and the fact is he didn't really know that much about

what he was doing. he was new to the job and he didn't have a lot of allies of everybody who he hired was basically part of the foreign policy establishment. so we've got to the point where people like me, people like jeff sacks, right? we're basically xed out of the mainstream discourse and the foreign policy establishment. people just don't want to hear what we have to say. so it won't come someone like donald trump and you could agree or disagree with his views. but he is a breath of fresh air. she is challenging. a lot of the main tenants of the far policy view that has dominated in this country for so long. and if i can just add one or the point to this, i think during the cold war, we had a much more open debate about the soviet union and us soviet relations. then we have today about russia and us rush relations. it's really quite remarkable how the liberal society, like the united states,

we've closed off the option of open debate about foreign policy in the main stream uh for a policy establishment, the mainstream media, and so forth and so on. so i think in that in that sense, trump is a breath of fresh air. well, i want to be clear. i always want to hear your views, university of chicago professor john mearsheimer. thank you so much for being with us today. my pleasure is always steve. so what's the bottom line, as we wave through the noise and the inconsistency, i mean unpredictability, around us present donald trump, there is one thing that is clear, he cares about borders and geography, which makes sense for a guy who spent his life in real estate. one, he wants greenland to give the us greater strategic depth in the north pole, to compete with china and russia to he wants to intimidate and subordinate canada and mexico, which you're huge. borders with the united states and 3 sure he believes in a strong military that can reach around the world, but he doesn't want to get into fights between other powers. which means america's

traditional alliances are potentially going to whether yes, europe, that means you. but presidents rarely get the world's, they want to have challenges are going to emerge. so something new is going to be built, but until then, expecting much from next year, rather than a more neat world. and that's the bottom line, the manipulated by those in power. and selection is unique and we've seen anything like for an old person, they were instrumental in helping the president when the election, driven by so interested play is fast put their pastor non profits for people susceptible to government control is public. and it's designed to inflame and defense the way that the story is being told. it's not right. and it's not accurate from social networks to legacy media. the listening post exposes the fulton behind the headlight on tuesday or the latest news as it breaks for the display of

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