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the impact of war is so much more than just emissions from tanks ships and will fight more than will say it has a devastating effect on people. and the the department of defense is emissions is as large as many countries every time. and if you spend an increasing military emissions increase and this war and this kind of christ, all hail the planet on a jersey to the us presidents, controversial proposals, ongoing global attention from taking off a gaza to a next in canada and greenland. donald trump comments make headlines many every day . so what purpose does the strategy serve and how should the world yet? this is inside story, the
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth put on us president donald trump has made headlines around the world since his return to the white house. he appears to relish any opportunity to upstage outrage and perhaps more importantly, controlled the media narrative. whether it's suggesting canada become america's 55th state renaming the gulf of mexico, or threatening a military takeover of greenland. trump is dominating international news for the white house has had to look back many of his statements with stuff scrambling for answers to a lot of inquiries. so can from submit instruction, sustain the break. next speed, what she's announcing changes and initiatives. and one of the dangers and perpetuating this relentless shocking on media strategy with explore those questions and more in a moment that 1st this reports by michael apple. so i think we have a 10. we have a 10 stony transfer return to the white house. he's
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made one stop the lien statements officer, and we're going to be changing the name of the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america. or what may appear to be absolute. may him could be organized towns, and she went onto the truck to another time, an american football strategy called flooding the zone meet. so the donor refers to weakening the opposing team's defenses by swamping them with options. they simply don't know way to focus because there's only so much they can handle 1st, so they're not particularly bright. they're not particularly hard working. so you can overwhelm the system quite easily against all enemies for us in domestic, steve bennan was the president's advisor during trumps. first, while ben and hasn't return to the white house solve to he and trump fell out,
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it would appear, his strategy never left. the us presidents has wasted no time in alienating is biggest trading partners, antagonizing allies, and be will during critics. we're going to put very serious tariffs on mexico and canada because canada they come through canada to and the drugs that are coming through our at record numbers, the headache for the trump administration. sometimes he's old talk to launch the back down to the launch the back down in mexico, panama. so he has this deliberate policy, as we know, it's a state policy of some of his advisors are coming out to some of the shopping things, but it's almost impossible to, to focus on any of them. always off to the state department, announced us vessels would be passing through the panama canal for free the panama canal, or florence. he issued a statement translated here, the 9 any changes to its fees. trump's gamble, in this case, at least,
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hasn't paid off. it's early days, but trumps media will wind threatens to sweep up every thing and it's part of what a nice picture of this is uh, governor as the saying goes a lie troubles posted in the truth. and in this case, accountability could crumble in the confusion. mike level, which is 0 for inside story, the one that spring and i guess from washington dc, we're joined by alex eyes and start a senior political reporter from x. who else? who covers the trump white house. and the republican party in london is patient eligible. and a column is the middle east, i and of health from things. and also in washington dc. is eric have a u. s. political analyst and formal congressional stuff? a very well and welcome to all of you alex, let me start with you in washington dc. what do you think trump, in his administration doing by signing so many executive orders,
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unleashing so many initiatives, generation so many headlines, one at once. so a couple of things. one is that he wanted to come out of the game show that he was trying to accomplish all the objectives that he outlined during the campaign. you outlined a very ambitious domestic an agenda during the campaign and he wants to show his supporters and voters that he's, he's going to follow through on that to is that trump loves to craig hey, or as he did this during his 1st term, and he believes that as a practical mat matter, creating chaos keeps his opponents, keeps the media off balance. and that's what he's doing here. and 3, what his team upset is that basically they only really have a couple of years to get done. the things that they want to get on and that you know after to yeah, the midterms are over next year. and after some really becomes of lame dog and
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things become a lot harder for him to things get harder for him. he loses the political capital that he wants had its harder for him to achieve the agenda that he won't, he, what he's laid out. you know, i want to pick apart all of those objectives over the course of the show piece and letting me come to you with one of the objectives of if the strategy is to overwhelm the media, the opposition so that they can focus on any one thing that the administration is doing is working as well. i don't know. i think there was a problem about this kind of strategic analysis. what's inside the re, analysis of what the from administration is trying to do. that's that actually look of what it means to the rest of the world. i've just come back from the west bank from jerusalem from jones. i hear you say the statements by the us presidents. he is planning
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a program all of ethnic cleansing of gaza. that is a crime under international law. that proposal is going to have devastating consequences to palestinians and all sorts of neighboring countries. so inside re take home, is he trying to confuse the us price? doesn't take us very far. let's look at the reality of what he's doing on his is, as i say, is his thing. so let me ask you about the reality of what he's doing on that specific point given just how incredibly unrealistic this plan or forcibly displacing 2300000 palestinians out of gaza is egypt and jordan is not going to take them given how unrealistic it is what is the political strategy then behind suggesting such a plan? well, i know it has a sign, glean as you are a budget being i unrealistic united states system for all of its current confusion
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. a is, is the most powerful nation in the globe with massive military and financial associates, a complaint to reject your suggestion that it's unrealistic. and i also note, this is crucial by the way, the a know most signal it sent to the file right? is royal to carry on the ethnic cleansing of, of westbank lawlessness which is already going on. we, we saw that i would smoke fridge cuz ministration of the westbank greasing with a claim. uh the, the trunk but nonsense. and so this is bone, you made it to a console, queen. sure. and the real well i do, i do accept possibly analysis, which is but mr. trump is a isn't. it doesn't really understand how the well, what season coming political maneuver of, but i think it's more sensible and more actions. okay, look at the real consequences of what he's doing and they all terrible. let me bring eric and on that of eric,
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how do you see when donald trump says things like the us is going to take over the gaza? it's going to a next canada. it's going to take over the green land. take back the panama canal. when is there a political strategy of saying such things? you know that seem absolutely shocking and unrealistic. do you make the move realistic by replacing them enough times? no, not at all. in fact that we looked at his efforts to try to retake canada. we see how that simply just failed spectacular when we, where we saw donald trump had to actually pull back from those punishing terms that he wanted to implement on canada. and quite frankly, what it did was it actually poked the bear. we have now seen, many canadians are actually boycotting us products still. also, i think what we're seeing from donald trump is donald trump is simply miss reading the facts on so many issues suggesting that canada's deficit with the united states makes the united states weaker. when we know the numbers that be continues to spout
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$2250000000000.00 deficit for the united states is more like $40000000000.00. and when you take out the oil exports from canada, united states actually has a surplus. and so while donald trump does have this, what the zone strategy, i think what we're seeing, even with that strategy while it is certainly causing tremendous chaos and confusion and making it very difficult for the press to follow along. we're already beginning to see the limits as we are saying now, judges are actually repealed like many of these executive orders and costs. so now with the number of demonstrations and the push backs, we're seeing just how potentially weak donald trump couldn't be, at least on the legislative front. where of course, that's where you make a long term actually long term policies to actually fulfill your legacy. and right now donald trump is struggling with that. alex is, does this orienting for journalists covering the white house and with, as eric mentioned, we are seeing pushed back on many things already. you know, the,
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the attempts to freeze federal funds funding a judge has hold to those. the threats of imposing 25 percent taxes on mexico and canada. that hasn't happened. i mean, there's a long list of things already now, but are we missing the missteps? the trump administration is taking when they make these a bowls new announcements every day. well, the reality is, is that there's always so much so many journalists and there's always so much time . and so you can only reporters can only do so much. but that said, reporters are doing a lot and they are documenting a lot of the things that from is either as sort of scale back or walk back. and so for example, yesterday when they decide when his administration started to sort of soften something, his original comments on god coverage when he decided to delay the tariffs on
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mexico and canada that got covered as well. and so the journalist can't do everything, but they able to document a lot of the movies they happen in real time. and does that coverage showing that he's not actually able to achieve his agenda at this break next be that he has, he's been challenged by the quotes that he has to look back on. his folks, people, his secretary of state, have to walk back on the things that he said about gaza a day earlier piece or do they affect him as old? i think we will them a lot more a, in the sort of weeks to months to come quite a lot of these matches, i mean, which are real measures, which have happened this for thinking of us agents. so for the collapsing of, of us self are likely to cause real calamities in the real world. just think about the removal of bank from africa. i think what you'll see is that china will not i think what we're seeing is the collapse of us power across the
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globe. you may think that's a good thing. you may think it's a bad thing, but any old china and you see that children's just have 1200000000 dollars removed from its national budget by this one is a cold decision by the us president ice thing that china will generally come in using the simon is terribly dangerous in somalia, right? not for it. so what will have out shut by the terrorist organization that is being held and held back upon a by us as a vengeance because they've been training the police force inside fault. i'm not strong, so shall 5 is going to be greatly enhanced, made more powerful, a sabotage the some of the state. now eventually us citizens are going to be killed as a result of these reckless actions. perhaps, sooner rather than later, we had a whip always in washington and the terrible catastrophic crash. so uh, i think i rather mike the point made by my previous i said that this time come back
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and find the president. very hard, eric, we've heard from alex about how this orienting this can be for the media, but what they are able to do and what they are able to call the. the democratic minority leader came jeffries, coord, amazing last week he said to discuss a comprehensive 3 pronged counter offensive against trump let's. i mean, how is this for democrats? how do they manage to, you know, fights the managed to the tarrant to fight back against some of the initiatives? well, honestly, and quite frankly, it's going to be very, very difficult for democrats. they don't have any levers of power. and quite frankly, they're the only negotiating tool that they have at their disposal is the budget process, which we're now seeing play out as the government now has to find a way to fund the government beginning in march. and of course, there is the debt ceiling and so those are 2 areas where democrats can actually push back, particularly given the very,
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very tight numbers that them in the house. republican majority holes. they only have a 3 seat majority, so they can, they can ill afford to lose any seats. any votes there. and i think that's going to be the problem. maddox, world. democrats actually hold strong in these negotiations. that's i think, the very key question we've never seen democrats actually tried to push the limits, particularly on the debt ceiling. and so i think that that could be your area where while democrats of do have leverage, it's on clear, at least at this point, if they're prepared to actually use it. and alex, how much political capital does trump actually have at the moment? you know, does all of this projection of strength actually obscure some real political weakness? he entered the his 2nd to them, an office with an approval, racing of 47 percent, the lowest of any newly elected president and the modern era. sure. so the reality is that as a newly elected president, and he has
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a fair amount of political capital, his party controls both houses of congress. democrats are off balance trying to find their identity, trying to figure out how they want to push back on trumps policies. so he has for the moment a fair amount of capital. now, if people, if the public where to start the sour on his agenda, if we get closer to next year, is may terminal a luxury. and it looks like his party is about to lose control of one or both houses and they're going to lose seeds. and he starts to lose further in popularity . then he starts to lose capital. but for right now he has a lot of power. and that could change, but for the moment he's got capital and he's trying to cash in on it. and how much capital would you say the republicans have because they have a raise, a fin edge. and the house of representatives is not much bigger in, in the centers, and trump couldn't get any of his agenda. he couldn't get most of his agenda to
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congress co teeth. so he's got and he's got a tough fight when it comes to the house, just because it is point out the margin is so slow. i mean it could take a lot of negotiating power to get through, especially through the house. and so that's gonna be a challenge for him. and once things actually, when he stops doing executive orders, and he starts having to post laws through congress, things are going to get a lot more complicated for him. and piece of when alex talks about how he could ever come, come to you would, and just a moment the piece of, when alex talks about how trump can those political capital as has to him, goes on. if the things he had doing a, you know, unpopular, if he isn't able to push his agenda through, we've already seen that he has caught and get some of it through. when does it have an impact on the people who voted for him? you know, we saw him lose some of his popularity during his 1st to and especially, or the, his handling of the pen demik. so i don't want to present myself as the next,
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but it's on the american political system. but can i make one else of ation? i, i think it's really interesting to see how it's going to be perceived internationally here and alonzo. it's clear we have a but the look. so cast, i'm a labor government all traditionally. i like maybe so the, to my democrats doing its best to talk to mr. trump really we have before and said she refused to contend the nightmare announcement about god, for instance. and he's a tracking night, so we think strongly tonight. so i live so far, great denmark and kind of hoping to tap the north, atlanta afraid to organization, which has been a buttress of american papa 72 years. and suddenly he's trying to sabotage around the mind. and that is, that is to what extent is going to be from traditional us allies a real quick, but i'm, how much patients do you think the traditional u. s. allies have, you know,
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we've heard from the european commission chief as the ones a line. again, this week saying the same thing that she has since he entered his 2nd to him and office, which was that we need to find common ground to the finding of about goods and it's getting quite humidity, i think, i think, but the rest of the world may turn against america. what is happening here is the problem is redefining the way the united states is seen across the globe. we now understand the toys being partly true, by the way, the united states of america and the trump is a rogue state. in the same way that the soviet union was a rogue states before 1990. i don't care, but of course, since it is copy, trusted, it breaks on its agreements, it's unpredictable. it's about the biggest danger to well police, all of these things of the case. i'm the trump, and i think the rest of the world it's becoming impossible to deal with and that will get what he will force,
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naturalized for other alliances. and we are seeing the nature of american power, which is up to now being clothes in a velvet glove being ready exposed. i think i can a to see eric, what do you make of that? that the united states, as at the danger of becoming a rogue stays on the donald trump. and i know you wanted to come in earlier as well as well. i've actually written in a column where i do say that the united states has gone wrong. but back to your original point about donald trump, to print a rating, we see donald trump coming into office. actually having of crew were rated 10 points lower than what joe biden's was when he came into office. in addition to that, when you look at a number of the executive orders that donald trump has already implemented, many of those are very unpopular. so with his of this is talking about friend braylon mosque and so i think what we're saying in terms of donald trump's political capital, he didn't have much when he came in because the only one with
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a 49 percent of the vote. and then of course, his approval rating is not even at 50 percent. and when we're saying these can continuing rollbacks and so much chaos, i think donald trump's political capital is that little bit which he had, he's beginning to squander very rapidly. and i think it's going to be only that much more difficult for him to actually be able to make legislative gains, particularly through the congress where you actually have lasting impact. and i think that's what we're donald trump, is going to be very, very troubled to say nothing of his ability to actually operate internationally as we every our we've already heard from peter. donald trump is continuing to make enemies of his closest allies, and even those competitors are certainly finding opportunities like china to be able take advantage of things like what we're saying with the shattering of us a id. alex, do say that way in regards to his political capital, then what do you see him doing with it while he has it or? well, why is this boy has a,
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he's doing the flood zone strategy that you mentioned earlier on where he's trying to get as much done as he possibly can and a short amount of time. and part of that is he recognizes that, that political capital likely won't last forever, for most president doesn't last forever. and what will he do when it doesn't last forever as well? and that's, that's the question. he went through a long period during his 1st birth presidency where he didn't have a lot of political capital for most of the time he was present, but that didn't stop him from trying to push for on the agenda that he wanted to push through. and so trump isn't a typical political animal, he doesn't say to himself, well, now i need to go and scale back my ambitions, that's not really how we operate. and so we'll have to see what happens as the years progressed as it relates to how we tries to push forward on his agenda. eric, you can tell me what i what. yeah, yeah, what i would like to say is donald trump is earned up, learned a lot from his 1st term. we saw many very stinking and humiliating defeats during
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donald trump's 1st term, the thumbs down by john mccain on the attempt to repeal the affordable care act. donald trump having to pull back from a comprehensive immigration reform because even many republicans balked at that. the government shut down over the christmas holiday. and so what donald trump is doing this term is she's actually trying to stay away from congress. and he recognizes through executive orders, he can still continue to give this r a or a strong man, someone who is in charge and who can get things done. the problem with that is we are saying many of those judges network inputs that were, that got that got through during defined administration are now beginning to actually push back and push back hard on many of donald trump's policies. in fact, there was one judge who actually looked at donald trump's birthright citizenship, executive order and say, he couldn't believe that an actual lawyer had actually presented that as an order.
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and so i think we're again, what we're seeing here is while many cannot cover all of what donald trump is certainly doing when you do actually peel back the layers, you are seeing a president of, quite frankly, is very weak at this time. even though he's attempting at every avenue to show and present stress and pay to however wait, he might be at this time he is of the us president. he is the president of one of the most powerful countries in the world. and you seem to believe him at, you seem to take them at face value at what he says, what of his agenda, especially internationally, do think he will be able to achieve in this to well, what he can do is create type of guy else. um, he seems to be in french in the middle east is in franchise the, the fall rise in israel. and the consequences are terrible. and the, the progressives of a strategy is getting a soft spring done is our lives across the region. jordan might easily collapse
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into a 500 kilometers. was that again? it's well you got egypt, which is very vulnerable to the palestinians. sought to arrive in numbers. i think it's terrifying moment for, for america's allies. i also can i make an observation about american domestic politics? yes, i think he's okay what, what's along the, let us not a recession, but his policies very much remind me of the policies which led to the great depression of the 19 thirty's, i. e. imposing these terrace, which is i will only accommodate and i can see it, but mark does go into a recession from will be blamed. and then it will be all vs, perhaps even to me is even so we suppose that they've got to do bring the in the why tots. one that they version back into power of the alex. we just have about one minute left in the program. what is your strategy for keeping the white house on
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a stove the next 4 years? well, it's about staying on top of them every day. it's about not taking necessarily everything they say for, for, for granted. but pushing further in terms of reporting, talking to more people, talk to people in the federal bureaucracy, talking to people in the west wing and talking to ball around washington to get this sense to, you know, what is actually happening in this white house. there's a lot that's going on and during 1st, trump's 1st term it's appears to fully understand everything that you did. and so you have to develop a wide source network and you need to really press people on what, what is the impact of his policies or that is that discussion for today? thank you to all 3 of you. that's alex licensed out in washington, dc. pizza. all born in london and eric have in washington dc and defend q 2 for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website alger 0 don't. com. i prefer the discussion to go to our facebook page. that's
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