it's denise the democratic republic of congo, that he to all the rebel alliance. cornelius been guy told crowds gathered in the cities made stadium that he wants to liberate old as a d all see that the group announced the new governor photos cubic province. under massa, m 53, and this specific code has been captured. the strategic city from the government last week. with all that, all reports of the rebels have taken control of abiding town. the south of gabe is located 70 kilometers from the back of the capitol of south kiva region las despise despite m. 23 is an element of the unilateral cease fire. on monday, the one says at least 2900 people were killed during the fight to you and go. but last week, around 2000 bodies were collected from the streets and the other 900 were already in bold across the city. catherine, so we have both nairobi on the raleigh held by m $23.00 and its allies of the congo revolt, liars, which is a group that also includes m $23.00 rebels. i say that they have grievances

that have to be address, including grievances by such a marginalized community that and today they had this public. wiley with thousands of people, came to listen to what the leadership is saying. and they said all the right thing . they told people to go back to that these, this is the live without the uh, they said that uh they are in the process of making sure that all the services are working. uh, these are clean, not exercise going on. uh, as you said, uh, 2900 people would chose. so the saying that they want go my to go back to work. uh, and we have also been talking to the residents who told us uh that what they are doing and what the thing is that they want peace. and they want to make sure that

everything is safe. uh, and that just looking and waiting uh to see how things play play out. going forward . you guys because of that visit lensky has concerned, funds has delivered. it says batch of 5 to plains, the garage, 2000 jet, subbing centers, parts of europe, suffolk, to boost you crazy military and it's fight against russia. the french defense ministers in boston. nicole news says that the cranium pilots to meet trading in friends for several months. iris is not revealing how many plains have yet been sent about cities for me. so robins will be by kids off now with bull. but you can find out more websites and i'll just say adult comes if they just drop that text along. does that. it's refreshing to stay with us the and we are going

to see the series of legend some clothes for the stories of civilizations that marks history wants. this is where the story of savannah do you have any stories to tell? the only thing that's right as have, has the power of hope is that they create a new world that we can see. possibility, we can create another universe, i believe we think yes, because it allows you to think different k it brings in an image that you never have thought off. and actually brings of closer to home things. it's closer to you . the info at the level 2 and in this series we'll be discussing one of the biggest stories of our time, the war and gaza. and today how palestinian office are responding to it. my guess

this week is garza born writes, a director of academic human masoud. his work sets out to tell every day stories from palestine. he's within the detective story, assess and gaza cold. come what may on a black comedy called the shroud maker. or having grown up in the refugee camp and siblings and found they would fall under israel sees the men. thank you so much for being here with us today. i know that someone from gaza, this must be an incredibly difficult time for you. there isn't the family i'm in gaza that hasn't suffered personally. that hasn't lost loved ones and a new family is there's no difference. can i ask you about your brother, holland? sure, so my brother was killed on the 22nd of january earlier this year. and he was shots

by what we call like, what come to a quote come to is this news writing machine, which is a mixture between a drone and a helicopter that we think is run by a guy and makes decisions by shooting directly. he was walking down the street, come in to get bread for his, somebody he was shot and uh, the tanks and phones. so he was left bleeding on the street for 3 days of the 3 days of intensive bombing and shooting in the area. and nobody could get there eventually his cuz and my cousins went to get him and he was still alive. and he died on the way to as they moved him on a donkey cart to get him to hospital side there being an ambulance. had that being a, a part of me that he probably would have left, but unfortunately there wasn't, i'm so sorry to hear this and, and also you, you had lived in,

you had lived in go the for oil life until you came to london. and there must have been all the times when he was separated from his family because of or because of conflict. but this time seems so much small, devastating. how are you coping? i don't know who i see is the right on. so i don't know how i'm going to be honest with you. i feel i need to stay strong for my family and because people's need me that right now and every aspect, whether it is 3 emotional support or financial support or um through simply connecting them with each other, keeping the news flowing between members of the family. so i see this is my role at the moment and that's how i'm coping. but also i think the other thing is writing really i think writing has because it has been an amazing thing for me in terms of coping the speak. i'm very therapeutic and allowed me to process those emotions that are being missionaries squeezed and ringed inside me to come out in the form

of a palumbo, or, or, or a short story or a thoughts on it today. because with us, you are able to drain those emotions that a little bit and come out with something a little bit beautiful and kind of look at it and see those emotions without the wounds. that's come with it. you said before our ours is resistance and resistance is ok. and you are obviously a novelist. you have many hats as a writer, but over this past year your twitter account has performed as a kind of exit or a new service in a way you're using it as a diary. so it's very direst to me. but you're also letting us, while you talk about your sister, about your nieces and nephews, your family. there were also telling us of the ongoing horrors of, of the constant. is there any bombardment? and at the same time, as you just mentioned, you started to write poetry, which is not something you've done before last year. so has your life as

a right of changed considerably. i mean, in, in ways that you hadn't quite imagined over this past year completely. i mean, it changed in the way that i can sleep. so most of my poetry and writing is coming out, lack of sleep. i'm so. so a lot of, uh, thoughts, and some subconscious thoughts i, i suppose. and so real thoughts sometimes i writes at night late at night and then wake up in the morning and look at what i've written such, i've never done that before. the fact that i write poetry now, i love poetry, so much is amazing, but i never always been able to write poetry before and somehow it came out. it came out with the 1st time that i read to my brother because i needed to say something, but i couldn't put it into a play or a plot or a climax or a twist and turn the did. there is no, it was 10 times quite clear as a genocide. so how do you express that? how do you actually talk about a genocide and your emotions? seeing not just your family suffer, but also the place that you loved the place he grew with

a grew up in unrecognizable accounts. i can't recognize because at the moment how do i really talk about it and how do i see it right now? i'm a writer that made a conscious decision to write about because i made that decision a long time ago because i wanted to. and now seeing that city being destroyed is housing me so much. and i would love to write more about the city that it was in the city that it will be rather than the city that it is right now that everybody's showing on the news. can you, can you describe for us that city that it was because the rest of us maybe some people knew the things of guys. but over the last year we've just seen images of, of devastation of destruction. and we've lost sight of what it was before. can you tell us about that city that you remember a beautiful chaos somehow he had, think of not play very much. so when i went there, not really for the 1st time. i was like that said of arrive to the,

this is the european version of cause of mediterranean, but it's a radian town was live. it's the alley's as old town as a market is as, as noise, and hustle and bustle and cafes, and restaurants, and or an theaters and odds, any use and shops and, and people who smile a lot and make a lot of jokes. and he thought of chilly, that's what i got, that was and, and this because i, i remember that i do remember the 1st time i went from jabante account, which is very different when i was growing up, is called the press. if there was no infrastructure, there was no sewage system, for example, in there to go through because of city. and i saw these place of, of, you know, the on the most that was built in the 2nd century or so, which is now destroyed. and unfortunately, and pass a pass a palace as an ultimate beautiful building and i worked through digital, at least that was like a little child looking at this beautiful city. think of damascus from that

perspective in jerusalem and, and, and hold of the places i went to come back to childhood but, but you mentioned the great i'll marry, most of which has been destroyed. there's also the church of saint paul, serious, which is thought to be the 3rd oldest church and the world that has been destroyed by it's rarely bombardment. um how, how does one of sites to keep that cultural heritage? because guys, it was known as a cultural hub, palestinians, and among, and arabs as well. mm hm. how do you fight to keep that alive? through writing mostly, and i think latricia is a footprint. the thing that will survive in the future 200 to 300 years from, from now on will be a pub in or, and novel. or overlook of that sort of represented that i don't think we have a responsibility as palestinians and that's odd to this. but also as international solidarity to kind of keep that alive as much as possible. i don't think many people now talk about the home or in moscow or the church. i think that's been forgotten already. it pains me. and the reason it pains me this also because it is

in my novel, come with me because a lot of the events like are set and that in the ashes of the mosque and underneath and the tunnels, et cetera. and it's gone and people don't know about it. so i think we have the responsibility as right as in the office, but also as an international solidarity movement to continue to talk about that and also later on hold as well as responsible because they are destroying or you must go well having these sites, you know, and that is an international crime. so, so making sure that we talk about it and social media, if we find a way of talking, making films out or whatever it is, i think we should on reading. i mean, we have responsibilities as, as readers as well. and you mentioned that you grew up in w, a refugee come me and i want to ask you how it was that literature found you or you find interest. so what did stories mean to you as a young boy? i mean, i grew up as a refugee, i lived through stories from my father,

my grandfather, and my grandmother about this beautiful house that we had. and what is now is ro that, that my grandfather was rich. he had this beautiful, again, autumn in house, built from the jerusalem stone that i sort of living to the stories. in the meantime, i'm listening to all of this and that the imagination and the world, the power, little universe that i'm told about. and. and what i go through on a daily basis is a you and refugee card that i have to go every wednesday to collect the aides for my assignment a, which consisted from some piece of bread and cooling beaks. right? so i wanted to know a little bit more about that and but the literature and about this kind of the stories that people like but living 3, my father has studied arabic literature and he said, well, he was so much into books and my, our house didn't have much food but a lot of books, you know. so at the age of 9 i read lennon and somebody that was on the left side.

you know, i read by the age of 10. i read oldest son can offend. he's well including the, the, the how to stay and novelist who was killed in 1972 for his writing. we had the above 4 volumes of mine with those books that my dad, he just has to go to the markets and we didn't get food. he would get 2nd of books and set them up. so that's how nutrition and books funding. um, oh, you know, you mentioned the genocide as something that is constantly changing something that's you called go to sleep and wake up in the morning without finding new devastation, a new horrors on. certainly no one has escaped this in gaza, but there has also been, i'm not talking about journalist here, there is also been a concerted effort to kill right to, to kill po, it's to kill translators on it. i want to ask you, what is it about rights? is that a so dangerous? and what power devices have, if any, against this kind of the race or i think the only thing that's right is have,

is the power of hope. is that they create a new world, then we can see a possibility. we can create another universe, i believe we think yes, because it allows you to think differentiate it, brings in an image that you never have filled off. and actually brings of closer to home things, it's closer to you. i don't think opponent has changed the world or, or changed politics or governments, etc. but it made a huge difference to that. and hope hope is a huge power and hope makes a huge difference. how it is a who's power, so prizes have no actual physical power, then not fights as they're not, you know, going on the frontline and doing it. they are risk getting a lot of their lives. many right. does have received tester threats in cause of 5 is right now me before they were killed, then target that because they know that there is the possibility that we will change people's hearts and minds. you mentioned the mood, the waste earlier and he's one of my favorite poets. he said,

we do. what prisoners do? we cultivate hope to what is your hope for the future i want my help for the future . i think is that for the whole thing to be resolved as much as possible. i'm a big believer for one state solution as my what i advocate for, i think it can happen. it will happen that whole. so the hope is that the us palestinians are seen as normal people as duma hammons. and we are taken seriously not by just by our ending. these are people who don't like us, but also by our friends, as well as that, as we see, as, as right as, as doctors, as engineers, as, as economics, as, as normal people, we have the good and the bad, the, the, the heroes and villains and all of these things, so we know some sort of export the rest of the people who are just like terrorist or really victims or whatever. there's really a complete society in that. and people need to understand that. um and they the way to do it is to read more of our work, read our poetry, read our books,

connect with us as much as possible, even right now. but on social media, people from gaza writing some really on is sort of accounts, you know, not just criticizing as well on the west. and none of this is not just angry about that. they're also angry about the tradesmen who are charging high interest with, you know, money transfer and goods and they're writing hold of the recording on of that. and i think it's our responsibility to be in touch with that as much as possible and to see people as humans as possible. i'm going to turn to the audience now and for some questions to ask med. we've got a question in the front to hi everyone, i'm my name is as addition sharma on the right. so i'm the director of an independent publish. i called the $87.00 price. we've recently works closely with me to reduce the statement and support vs. so my question is, we have seen across the world, a lot of writers, cultural institutions and auto standing up to support the policy and the peroration

. but i'd like to know what more we can do aside from boy call. thank you. this is a really good question. i think that a lot of rights as an office has to the uh to support the kind of thing and close and then enter the knowledge stage. and so these really genocide for sure. however, i don't think it's enough. i think there are a lot of many, many, many other writers who haven't yet. i don't have time for slides is a not to say, don't you haven't stood up and said, hey, this is, this is, this is wrong. what, what are you doing or expressed an opinion about it because those people influence uninspired, a lot of other people as well. and i think be we should be as an international solidarity movement and publishes not to, to engage with those people. and this is the time for naming and say, man said no, i'm sorry, how come to work with you? because that's the only way to set up the pressure on them to change the direction in terms of saying what action was. now my writing is being effective. now i'm gonna suffer personally because nobody's going to read my books or publishes. i'm

not going to publish my, you know, my, my was, i don't know if you saw this. there was a counter lesher published or has had signed on to boycott is very consul festivals and things. we've met with account to protest letter and in that letter and people defending israel said that it was dangerous and then liberal me to boycott cultural institutions. what, what's your response to that? i mean, this is a classic kind of argument. that boy is dangerous because the need to engage with the other side and this method to have that conversation rather not have that conversation. so there is, there's an argument there that i'm happy to debate and happy to death and dive deep into however it this time when there is genocide for anybody who is completed on who's supportive of this genocide then no, i don't think there is a moment of dialogue and kind of having that relationship and that, that connection with is there a cultural institutions, for example,

if we think about is ready to see it as most of the most state funded, most of them have kind of a relationship with the government of, of some sorts, i must have been end up performing in a legal settlements and in the west bank. so there's a big case for boy cuts. there's a big case for saying, well actually, that doesn't sits well with my moral morality and my principles. are the questions and the lady in the front. a. hi, my name's reassess. i'm an act time was a positive coach with organizations as a to why collective, who stand with influence on the dollar to palestinians and, and then we'll see said helping to set up a jewish all just network for palestine. and i've met him. we've seen the intensification of the rage of palestinian stories and the chilling and cowardly silence and censorship from culture organizations. first day. do you feel that the art sector has failed palestinians?

and can you also talk about the role of resistance in it's particularly from groceries? organizations, you know, is a, the, so it into far, they're going to be a cultural one. i think the odd sector in the u. k. and in many other countries has failed palestinians a long time ago. and not just now by the way. i think institutions have this engaged to is the palestine about sort of studies 80 years ago. so it particularly when, when, when uh, colbin came to power and became the leader of the position that was actually a defining moment for palestinian this for us. and i'll give you my experience an example. i had scheduled place to be certain vineyards and when that's of the height of the anti semitism debates of the labor punch in the issue around the neighbor punched in jeremy coleman, has nothing to do with my piece of. and my, if i creation my play was canceled for no reason, you know, from the service center is because people start to see us as like, oh, if i put

a palestinian on play or story or, or, or whatever it is, then i'm taking size and i'm i'm being and to submit that there was no chance for us to kind of break through this and many cultural organizations and up to this to have, you know, works about palestine written by non how this thing is. i'm going to get back to the point around the next uh intifada. is it, is it cultural introvert? i think by yes, that it's happening already. i think seen a palestine in the last 1015 years. if you look at the cultural production that in terms of see it to send them a, we have more cinema coming out of kind of funding, syria and lebanon, combines in terms of films, which is incredible, right? so see if they've been a so many fields or companies in the west bank and gaza as well. i think now we need to rebuild that and see to make sure to focus on that as much as possible. so that doesn't get killed because a lot of august killed already, but the idea and the important stuff at the end, the rest is at the end,

present himself and doesn't go away. i think we need to continue to imagine as much as possible as possible support palestinian artist. so yes, the cultural intifada is happening already. how is it going to peak? i don't know. yes. as gentlemen in the fact. yes. hi. my name is simeon. i live in london, i'm currently a teacher in training and a rapper. so someone who uh, someone who enjoys writing, i'm an advocate about how words turn i can help make sense of emotions. and so after seeing all this senseless carnage taking place, what's the one piece of writing that you wrote that has helped to cope with all the sense was carnage that's been taken place that has a really good question. i have a piece of writing that helps me code. um, well i think 2 pieces of pricing, i guess um for 3, if i may, 1 is on the pun to my brother. i think uh is uh yeah

is a may need for his everything's like in there and remember him as, as beautiful as he was. and the 2nd one i wrote a poem called to gaza with hope. and it's, i just talked to god, the city has the city with buildings and things like that. and i really like, and i like that probably. and because i say almost a pledge for me and i read it quite a lot to remind myself that i will remember because that has a beautiful place, not as a destroyed place this and this, this is actually a 5 minute play hold um the slowest the pro 5, and it's about this, this uh, it's a 3 story i saw this guy in real 5 and the refugee come sending flowers and i sort of my god, what's me do you think this is what people need right now? you have no. so you do, you have no, you know, basic stuff, but to you go home to the 10 to or pots and that to your kids and say, i've got to a flower. and the, the great thing about it was that the people were buying people,

you know, buying extreme, the expensive flowers, where did they come from? how much to the risk his life for. and this, those beauties of people that change a lot about what you see with that. so with your work, i would advise if you're writing about kind of things, look for these things more then you look for, you know, domestic out with 20 people. the news comes, the stories covers the numbers, covers the bodies, covers the atrocities often to for use of how do i get that emotion in the because i have the power on the weapon of fluids and symmetry and metaphors and beautiful things. how can i do it? and i want to say this actually, because you are not just you also having a responsibility with this to help us with kind of things as much as positive sound, right? that's the right thing about the dentist and i think everyone should drive about it and how you feel about it, because it is affecting you as much as affecting me. you know, it's damaging you as much as the medicine. it's damaging all of us.

i wonder if you would read for us the poem to brother had it? sure. um, i should say that this poem i only read once in public um it does make me quite emotional. so if i still pa, for 3 apologies. so so, so this plan is called the salads i had it is my older brother killed on the 22nd of january 2024. to kind of tell me what is your name and how big. so stay in motel, be on the, on the boat, the lines of this well beyond the pain, the only once you have seen in gaza the on the child screams of hunger and see if you will be in a smokeless bottomless place. so wait for me, brother, be patient and don't leave. you're only allowed to leave once when i get there, i don't want to see you. sad or old. angry or tired, scared of bones or big tanks,

frustrated the words. just they as the way t excited lads wanting to play the wood and cycle to the beach. i will practice playing new songs and i will show up. in the meantime, while you wait, you can find someone to teach them how to send wood to make beautiful furniture, or teach the kids how to play marbles 1000000000 today. you can keep your big smile as a busy yourself doing things for others. like you have always done whatever you do, just stay there. i'm coming. i won't be long. the thank you so much. so that's such a beautiful and, and moving tribute. thank you for sharing it with us. and thank you for being on, reframe today. it's been a privilege to speak to you and thank you to all of you for joining us for this

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