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accused israel of obstructing the delivery of desperately needed shelter for palestinians struggling through strong winds and rain. hundreds of countries children are separated from their parents. as we're wondering about m. 23 levels take more temperature. last the impact of donald trump's deportation drive is being felt sizes of kilometers away from washington, dc. as far as small with sports formula one could soon be back in africa, south african city of cape town has officially joined the race to win from pres, hosting. why the, the names of 3 is really captive, so be exchanged for palestinian prisoners on, such as they have been released by how much good i shall not be bored lady and all have been um a jew to be handed over as part of the deal in return israel will release
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a $183.00 palestinian prisoners. this is going to be the 5th exchange of his ready captives for palestinian prisoners since the cx 5 deal was reached. the moment we're going to speak to the topic about resume who's in con eunice and southern gaza. first let's go to nor they has reporting from my mind. that's because these really government and the palestinian authorities bundle just data from reporting from israel and the occupied westbank north. let's start with what we know about these 3 chapters of the will, the 3 captives, rav 4, will be released according to the military wing of how much are a hosted hobby or levy, and or had been on me, who holds dual german and is rarely citizenship now these 3 captives fall under the current category of civilians, elderly i'm the injured. we don't know which is which, but we know that in exchange for that, how much is expecting a $1883.00 palestinians to be released, including
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a $111.00 palestinians disappeared from garza since the beginning of the war. on october 7, 2023, and let's remind our viewers that thousands of palestinians have been disappeared from gaza since the beginning of the war. there has been no contact with the majority of the lawyers and human rights organizations of the united nations of asked to ascertain the number of those who have been forcibly disappeared. according to the united nations. how many of them are alive? that information is very scarce and hard to come by, but we do know from the testimony of those release that they've been subjected to very severe treatment including starvation and sexual abuse. those will be released after the 3 is really capt. as are handed over to the international committee of the red cross who hands them over to these really army ones is really territory. and no need is a delay on either side is always being wondering when we've gone through this
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process before. but this is, i would imagine is going to be a relief not only for the families if these are the captives. and of course, the families and friends of the palestinian prisoners, but also of course, for palestinians, particularly who have been really getting more concerned that this these far may collapse. absolutely, you mean this delay alone, which only lasted about 2 hours was nerve wracking for palestinians. let's remember that nearly 2000000 palestinians of the 2.3 who reside in gaza had been forcibly displaced. they don't have the tense, they don't have the shelter. they don't have the necessary aid to survive. and the more that the cease fire can hold. the more hold they can have that aid will fluid and that they would have access to tons or to care of, of the hospitals that have been designated in jobs that would be able to re supply and rebuild that there would be oxygen available in those facilities. that they
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would have x ray machines and medication and pain killers for the injured, who are still recovering or barely recovering from their injuries. but this all depends on both time, off and as well. viewing that at each side is keeping up to it side of the agreement and the prospect of reaching an agreement for phase 2 of the of the ceasefire are real. and this is where it gets very tricky because the statements that we've been hearing from trumps about the displacement of palestinians from gaza taking over gaza and turning it into into some sort of real estate development project for him and the united states into and that's and yahoo at it suggesting that he wants to extend phase one and possibly reach phase 2 of the ceasefire agreement and exchange for him. us agreeing basically to, you know, a give up to have its leaders leave the enclave and to give up all control on gaza
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. so these things really add to that nerve wracking at an atmosphere in gaza. and beyond about how bullet time the ceasefire agreement is and how high the stakes are new. i'm going to be talking to, i try to get in con eunice in just a 2nd about what's gonna be happening on saturday tomorrow in guys and but just remind us of what when we've seen this process before, what happens when the palestinian prisoners are released from his very jails as well. this rarely a prison authority has actually issued a statement saying that it is made old preparations in order for this exchange to happen. in fact, they also announce that a 3 minute video has been prepared of the apocalyptic destruction. israel has wrought on gaza and those palestinian prisoners, indeed a detainee is, will be forced to watch that before they're being released in the occupied westbank
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. most likely, the gathering will happen in around monroe, where the buses of the international committee of the red cross will bring those palestinians to the occupied west. back from garza, they will most likely enter through the south and be taken to hospital and we of course will hear more from thought on that. but basically this is families know, are waiting for the, for these really authorities to release the list of palestinians who will be freed so that they can make preparations. they have been warned repeatedly by as ready authorities, they are not allowed to celebrate. they're not allowed to receive anybody to welcome those who have been released. so there are many, many restrictions on the palestinian families waiting for their loved ones to be released. and there are logistical difficulties right now is real, is carrying out a military assault engineer. unfold, cut in families will live in that part of the occupied west bank will find it very difficult if not almost impossible to make it to the left to receive their loved
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ones. no, thank you very much. indeed. that's no. are they talking to as they have from a mine? so let's go to a couple. so it was joining us for con units in southern guys. no, no, it was just describing some of the concerns, but the palestinians are 5 in the last 48 hours or so leading up to this particular announcement. and obviously this is the stages of this uh, this handover um talk to us about the kind of reaction to people in gaza have had know that we know that how much has released this list of is really captives. and in between, we now know that a $183.00 palestinian prisoners are going to be freed a well obviously a wrought, but the delay of the announcements made by the military ring of hell us regarding the release of the use by the captives has linked to triggering frustration among palestinians, especially those are in the gaza strip as this delay. and procrastination has heights and
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a significant concerns about the fragility of the ceasefire and such as tips impacts on the potential negotiations for the 2nd phase of the deal later. once the military wiggle from us, has declared the names of the splendid captives, palestinians completely got some sense of press pipe because they believe that israel will seize any sort of opportunities to a tech guy will say again, once there is going to be any sort of a, any sort of delay regarding the implementation of the ceasefire deal. but for palestinians, they understand clearly that israel did not comprehensively attached to be attached to the terms of the agreement to regarding the numbers of humanitarian, a trucks that are allowed to access. because of all the numbers of patients who are scheduled to be evacuated, says, and the a to the depression, hospitals to receive medical treatment is about justifies this as a sort of for it, correct? ec security much as major in order to identify those patients. and to give them
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some sort of security clearances. so for palestinians now, officer watching and a on standing the release of the as well. it captives names. they are right now waiting anxiously for the release and to the hand over a process that is the schedule to take place on such a day tomorrow, as they believe that it will be completely made on 2 stages and in 2 different locations that will be in the north and also in the central areas of a straight static i want, i want to respond to that a little bit because in the last few occasions when they're happy and handled because you'd be watching what's been happening when he is ready captives or a user and kept his have been released in con eunice just from your experience this remind us what that process is going to be life on saturday. it was the process of the hands over they used by the captives will follow the same previous particles in previous exchanges. the fight says the military rank of how
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much on the very strict a security measures will hand over the use while it captives to the international committee of the red cross. and will try to ensure that the hand over operation will be going smoothly without any sort of challenges as what we have seen previously. and the city of hon. you and just in one of the previous release is that what made we, how much the international committee of the rich costs are due to the very overwhelming tense nature. what crowding people have been seen as a threat. so in the lives of the is what it captives based on the testimonies of usability officials. but basically what we are expecting most sort of organizing organized nature for the release of the captives. and these caleb, for preparations that we will see tomorrow morning would reflect the level of readiness and how the uh, the hands of, of the display the captives will go where civilians are looking forward to watch
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the entire hand over as how each will be completely carried out on the very organized and comprehensive process that will guarantee the safety of the is what it captives and will in the other hand, it make sure that the palestinian prisoners won't be too late to be re united with assemblies was taught to, to, to create the destroy the streets on the a, b to protect also it's all set up correctly. seems to be quite lee. i've seen tomorrow once they've going to be released and handed over to the international committee of the red cross to drive them to drive them back to the repeat hospital to undergo initial medical checks to be later united with the beloved ones. i started out what was i'm talking to is there from telling you this? well, i want to give you a closer look at the ceasefire deal that's with the heart of all of those for the 76 captive still in is at least as such as photos. i'm a thought to be dead during this phase of the deal. israel has agreed to a lot of palestinians to return to the neighborhood spots. israel is being accused
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of violating parts of the deal by not allowing supplies into the strip and limiting medical evacuations. 50 palestinian patients are supposed to make it out daily, but the w. h o, so it's only a 178 i've left in the past week. now the 1st phase of the deal is set to end on march. the 1st, during the 2nd phase is ready for us, is our to completely withdraw from garza and the rest of the captors should be released. the 2nd phase also includes our permanent seas 5, but how does that is going to work is still being negotiated. michael, my mind is director of research for israel palestine the democracy for the out of world not with the research and advocacy organization and it's based in the us. he's joining us from washington dc. so thank you very much indeed for being with us over the last 48 hours or so. the tension surrounding this, these 5 deal, this stage of the seas, fido has been run things off because of the statements from donald trump. we've seen the delay. that was caused by how much fading to release the, the list for
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a couple of hours. we've also seen allegations of course, that israel is a violating parts of the seas. 5 deal broadly speaking. however, given the tension that we've seen, what's your assessment of where the ceasefire stands at the moment? as you know, i think there's a bit of tongue that followed the publishing of the list of, of the captives that are going to be released. because as you mentioned in those 1st funded mentioned, there's a lot of anxiety surrounding trumps and declared intention to, to take over gaza and to expel all of the palestinians in it. and if that's the case with that and game, and so clearly laid out, what is the incentive for him? us to continue with the steel certainly have the same pay so, so i think there's a bit of relief all around that. it is moving forward at this stage, but, but as you mentioned, there's a lot of more uncertainty about the next stages. and whereas trying to sense quite consistently, but he wants to see everybody release them for this,
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for this deal to be completed. you know, he's, he's added a new stage which is cleansing, guys of all of his people, me in terms of, of israel's approach towards the, the, the see as far as negotiations and we did hear that files there wasn't delayed before how much to essentially release the list of these are the captives. we also have the israel had actually moved, i believe, is 3 divisions of, of military. they were quote, re, re deployed defensively within guys as part of the seas. 5 deal. know that happened as we were waiting for that least that list to be released. does that give us any indication about the way the israel is trying to handle the ceasefire deal in amongst the broader context that we've been talking about and the tensions that have been rising? you know, it's, it's hard for me to read into the, the intentions behind troop movements. but i would say that, you know, again,
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there's a lot of uncertainty and, and, and movement underway under foot about what, what might come next. and so why we still see everybody in here into the ceasefire for the moment. we're very well, maybe seeing preparations for something different than, than what's expected. and, and i'll just add to that the, you know, we've seen the is really defense minister or the army to start preparing for the departure post ends. and, you know, we have a major military operations, but they're, you know, assaulting a refugee camps and, and various cities in the northern west bank. but it's, it's, you know, there's, there's a lot of uncertainty and, and this comes on top of one of the most to mom. she was a 2 year periods that we've seen. certainly in that region for some time. i want to ask you about something that you mentioned before. of course, the situation was homeless because it was they, they stated intention by benjamin netanyahu at the start of the wall. that israel was going to eradicate how much it was going to destroy homeless,
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which clearly it has failed to do because homeless fighters are still on the, on the streets of guys or donald trump, you referred to, was saying that he had made it part of his um his deal if you'd like, for guys that thomas should, you should leave and yet how much is determined to stay? how do you see the position of homeless within all of this um, what its role is going forward given everything that we found over the last 48 hours the hey, i imagine that some of the leaders are asking themselves the very same question. but, you know, i think the to, to get back to your question, the 1st part of it, at least, you know, there's, there's always been a recognition and israel that the, the 2 of the major stated goals in the war, eliminating from us and releasing all of the or, you know, getting back all of the hostages and captives that they are in, in many ways, mutually exclusive stuff. how can you negotiate with somebody while you're telling them that you're going to tell them after?
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and so this, i think adds an extra element that explains things either with an israel surrounding the trunk plant is even is as there is the sort of ecstatic masonic energy among sellers and, and you know, far beyond, to be honest. um that, that is real things, so fundamentally change it's, uh, it's position and the region basically the post in the end space of the other countries. and, you know, i don't think the insight is limited to from us. if you look at the end of egypt and jordan and many of the other countries and the region, a lot of people are really asking what, what comes next and, and nobody knows. the one thing that has been consistent is, as you mentioned, benjamin netanyahu saying that this world will not end after the 65 deal. and in fact, in israel, it's referred to as hostage deal and not a ceasefire deal. and the difference being that you, you don't keep fighting at the conclusion of a ceasefire deal. you, you may at the end of
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a hostage to my hold on my mind. we appreciate you being with us. and i'll just, you know, giving us the benefit of your thoughts on this. thank you very much. and jason, the monetary and agencies are wanting that the ada entering the gaza strip is in sufficient to respond to the needs of nearly 2000000 palestinians out of the seas fight agreement. $205000.00 tents was supposed to be allowed in 2 guys would only 10 percent of those of arrive so far. and none of the 60000 mobile homes has been delivered. israel is also accused of blocking the entry of heavy equipment needed to recover bodies. trump, under the rubble in the might not. it said these really armies, denial of the delivery of heavy equipment and machinery into the guns. a strip which is required to remove more than 55000000 tons of concrete debris means that we will not be able to recover the more than 12000 dead bodies of the palestinians who are buried and missing under the rubble. it also means that the mass will not be able to honor their obligation to recover unreturned. the dead bodies of these
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really captives killed and buried under the debris. i just ate as well as i salute reports. i am from northern gaza on the desperate need for medicine and care or 6 weeks ago. when is why the attack, my husband, poor was home, lift him back, the hosp, the full, changing my wounds. dressing takes about half an hour, and i can easily say its half an hour of health because of a severe and excruciating pain. he spent 3 days and then since i've had to have his left leg amputated now still in hospital, he's desperate for bed relief. his doctor say he has just the needs auntie bite takes on the dressing for headphones. so that in my store, vision them up for them, i still have all my wounds open, my chest is open, my legs amputated and opened and my other legs wounds also opened. and in addition to that, there were no pain killers. most of the time. that's my goals, no disinfectants, a no a dis of take on. so those freaking causing,
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like cause i'm sure we are, it is a matter of making do with what's available. less often and other we and medicines are very scarce, especially those medicines used to amputations the metal implant cases. unfortunately, there's also a big shortage of strong painkillers that we need at the hospital on a daily basis. because i'm saying is patients are only getting a lot of those and they need as limited supplies effectively. russians as it obviously, and also how that's going this cabinets should have been full of medicines, including painkillers and to buy optics books. unfortunately, we have nothing that can and that's a, that is i will, i, you didn't have that shape. i submitted those task home for overseas help, husbands, fame like gauze us health care system remains an unimaginable health. want to just 0 dollars and city palestine elsewhere. and guys are city palestinians are returning to the ruins of their homes during the day. but at nights they move again
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to find somewhere safe to sleep. i mean, behold, reports from suzanne neighborhood. this destruction is already causing months of the difficult living conditions on the ground. already pushing people into further move into a toward the center part of the city. as you can see from the, from the camera camera, a lot of people are walk into our direction. we were told that people could not or can stay in the, in the building, the vast majority of the residential homes. industries are you never hooked the public facilities, the schools that at some point turned into a shelter for them to protect themselves on the shoulder from the horror of the war are severely damaged and completely destroyed. so they tried to find temporary shoulders at the city center, and many of the buildings are still in talk, but somehow the damage is not as bad as the one inches. yeah. yeah, but it's still, there is a risk of, of collapsing in case of bad wars ending with their condition. so the majority of these people go in the morning, they do their homes here,
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these. they stay next to the level of the of their bumped homes and in the evening to walk back and carry with them wherever they are able to salvage it. from under nice. the, the rubble, the scale of destruction is a, a so massive. i'm familiar with this neighborhood, in fact a grew up in this neighborhood. i remember many of the buildings a high rise building. and these, there you haven't thought about 7 to 10 story buildings everywhere are now gone. the disruption that we see behind here is the result of 15 months of devastation. and it's in fact as one person describing 30 years of 40 years of hard work have turned into piles of rubble. as israel deliberately destroyed all means of life. here. you are supposed to been, donald trump's told reporters, there is quote, no rush to implement his plan to displace palestinians from gaza and take ownership of this trip. but he's doubled down again on the details. and any further deliberations on causes or time table for them to take over?
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no, no deliveries, it's been very well received wherever, basically the united states would view it as a real estate transaction. where will be an investor in that part of the world and no rush to do anything with need anybody there would be supplied and given to us by israel dale watch in terms of security, we're not talking about purchasing the grad or anything, but i think we'll the fact that we're there that we have an investment there i think would go a long way to creating fees. so we don't want to see everybody move back and then move out in 10 years. this has been going on for 50 years, much more than that. which is what is the stability that would be having us have that particular piece in that particular location i think would show great stability in would, would lead to great stability in the area the,
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the us deputies special envoy to them at least as high as bowler must not be part of levels new government. speaking after meeting with the lebanese president and baby boot smugglers hagar's side, washington headset, clear red lines against the group ahead of his balls block in parliament was from a dr. said big statements constitute a blatant interference and lebanese sovereignty sooner called or has more from that route. and this is the 1st visit by a trump administration official to be route morgan ortega, the new deputy special envoy for the middle east, arrived a few weeks after 11 on elected a new president and appointed a new prime minister outside the traditional political forces. her message, hezbollah should no longer have influence. we are grateful to our allied israel for defeating has bola. but it's also thanks to you, thanks to the lebanese people. it is thanks to president alone and private, the prime minister designate on watts to alarm,
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and everyone in this government who is committed to an end of corruption who's committed to reforms and who are committed to making sure that his bullet is not a part of this government in any form and that has buller remains disarmed and militarily defeated. the prime minister designate the west and i'm was suppose to announce a new government on thursday hours before the arrival of the us and boy, but hezbollah and its ally among insisted on retaining the veto power. they enjoyed in previous governments known as the blocking. 3rd, what spelling of the government formation is primarily and that is the speaker of the house insistence on him. naming 5 out of 5 shots and the government which allows them to undermine every process if they threaten to withdraw from the government. western in arab countries have promised to help this nearly bankrupt state, but only on the condition that 11 on adopts reforms some have demanded the end of
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hezbollah power. the president and the prime minister designate, have promised to enforce the accountability and corruption and rebuild the states by enforcing its authority across the country. there's a new balance of power in lebanon and to reach you in the united states is now the main player. and here on which the us and voice says will be facing more pressure is on the back foot. but this is still a deeply, a divided nation. has the law which has been military and the weak invite as well, has popular support. and there is anger following the comments by the us envoy, which the group said violates 11 on 70 hezbollah and its allies are also strong in parliament. but the u. s. which had the committee monitoring the ceasefire between has the law and as well set the tone for what a new lebanon should look like going forward. lebanon is an uncharted waters center
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for their electricity, though they don't, then you're in human rights. council said it is going to be investigating human rights abuses in the eastern democratic republic of congo for one and back to m. 23 rebels took the city of gold my last week and they've been advancing across the country. the us has thousands of people that be killed on hundreds of thousands of enforced from their homes. lock and lab reports. these children don't know if the parents of dead or alive some was separated while running from the fighting. when the n 23 rebels, backed by rolanda took the city of came in last week to grab a shed. gotcha. we were in the come and then all of a sudden that were explosions. we started running by the time i called away, i couldn't find my parents off the guy myself, people living in the vast displacement camps, north of the city, say, and 20 three's fights, has forced them to leave and destroyed the shelters, causing more separations. these women say they'd be left taking care of thousands
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of children in this churchyard, including toddlers and babies. so the people are panicking and they didn't even have the time to gather their children. we have nothing. so we borrow to feed them . we are appealing for house inside the church. the cruise a g d is among the many distraught parents. one of my children went missing during the commotion when we were evicted from the camp. when i tried to sleep, i wake up. i'm so bored in straits that i cannot even provide food for the other to help seems unlikely to come soon. and 23 is fine. to have told many counties a complex and they'll provide services of which the still no sign. the un says thousands of people have been killed in the last 2 weeks, and hundreds of thousands of children are at risk of recruitment by um, groups and sexual violence. these children will not find that parents that often, many of the children of soldiers will fight as he's been killed. some of the women
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here were being raising orphans throughout decades of conflict. it began when we're wondering, uganda 1st invaded congress in 1996 feet. it says her parents died 2 years ago in the territory of msc at the time. being resident said m 23 killed rate and emptied entire villages to take from land and 23 to nice committing atrocities. the book on show mama, because dish will go with my mom was sick in bed for 2 days. then she died. then another day i was walking back from the farm with my dad and there was gunfire. he was shot. he told me, don't stay and take care of me. please run around and found people who could help. but by the time we came back, he was dead. the big thing with just seeking sympathy for the opens, please be kind to the roof and they say they survive on donations of food and clothes which have stopped as in 23 sciences advance is leaders of said though the rates
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