i there and we need to stop doing this. the 2 people's are leaving this land. we need to figure out how to share it, whether it be one state to state or 10 states that stop the question. the question is the boat people's a heater and both peoples are going to stay here and we have to recognize each other's continual right to be here and stop killing each other. and date that has the bigger conversation that needs to happen. that's hope it's can does continue to do so in this day and others to come, gosh on baskin money. thanks and you've joined your stuff from west jerusalem and what have you all most read on set. we're going to be talking to you a little bit more later, so please don't go too far. hello there. if you're just joining us, the i'm or kyle and you are watching out is there is just go on 8 d m t. and we're following this developing story of the 5th release of is really captives from gaza in exchange for a palestinian prisoners from is really jails. now you're looking at live pictures here of central guns, a data on bala, in particular where we can see for

a number of hours. now how mass is ongoing of customer gates has been preparing to release. 3 is really captives from guns. are the 3 male civilians. we expect that release to happen any months now we have been given an 8 g m t time . we understand that the international so as a of the red cross vehicles all preparing to receive those 3 men in the hands over with close be keeping a very close eye on those pictures. and indeed a topic i assume is the at the themes, the time. so to adjust the focus through the names of these 3 men who are we're going to be seeing any movement that goes thing in. a terms of them appearing i unfortunately don't have time. well i can give you the names because i do have

them written down here. we've got a had been me a l e show, robbie, they were both taken captive from cooper to the areas we were hearing a gush on saying just a little earlier during the october 7th attack. we've also got o levy. he was taken from the secret, i have a music festival in southern israel. a subdued release, the as we were hearing again from the show. and then we can see the families and the friends and the support is all of the captives that gathered in hostages square in tell of these a some but moods that because many of these people have lost relatives have lost family members or levies. wife was killed on october, the 7th alisha robbie's wife and 2 teenage daughters, but also killed in the attack. we expect all have been, i mean to be we united with his wife ross who was also taken thought was released

in the earlier release of captive just a month into the gauze of war, which of course has now been going on for 15 months, but also expecting to see the release of a $183.00 palestinian prisoners, a $111.00 of those. i had been arrested in garza, so we'll see them being released to gaza. that's bringing mamma down most res took a little bit more about the people who were going to be released because that list of names was also delayed. wasn't it? how much was the late fee? the naming of the captives by a few hours is remember, ton delayed the naming of the palestinian prisoners. it's, it's tit for tat to it's, it's a 20. it makes it very difficult, doesn't it? to, to see how this, these 5 is going to keep going. how we're going to get to the end of phase one and indeed get into phase 2 because for most of the had, well, i suppose if you will, there's a mistrust between the 2 sides. there's a huge lack of trust. there's

a huge lack of trust. um, you know, i mean, for a mazda, from commercials point of view, and they've had, they've had a cease fire deal on the table actually, since october of, of 2023. you know, you know, to, can be fair here, right? they, they've had that deal on the table and it's been israel that has consistently rejected that they've said all the lot if they want to completely destroy how much that's a, you know, not the best way to, to get to a cease fire by negotiating with the other side and telling them that, you know, we're, we're seeking to eliminate you and we're going, we're going in fact to, to do that. now i think the new sort of wrench in all of this is the announcement made by the us president donald trump just just a few days ago that he wants to see if actively the ethnic cleansing of of the gaza strip. so as i've been saying all morning, i'm just wondering what the incentive is for him as to continue. we know that from

us once an end to the water, right? they, they've had this, these fire up on the, on the table for many months. even this issue of postwar garza, how much has actually been and i don't want to make it sound like i'm just supporting how much this position here we can criticize from us for, for many things. but on this particular issue, i'm not as has been actually quite flexible on the issue of governing conf. postwar garza, i'm ass knows that no money is going to come in for the reconstruction of gaza if it's the governing guys are on its own. and so it has these 2 different proposal proposals on the table, one for unity government with the palestinian authority and the other for this kind of technocratic council. right. both of those proposals have been, have been rejected by the palestinian authority. israel doesn't like those proposals, united states doesn't like those proposals. and so it's just very difficult to see how then we move forward when you start to look at all of these moving parts. it really is because if we look at even just the pictures today,

we can see how much in control of the situation. how much is we can see the display of the old wing custom brigades that in this comp, temps release is the withdrawal of the is rain. these is being replaced by how much security, by how much infrastructure they are very much still in control of the goals of strep. disappointing us now, who's in to be that illumination? so it's not going to be an easy move to get rid of. i know i, we've been saying this for, you know, i'm, i'm probably sound like it's sounding like a broken record, but israel has not eliminated from austin. they're not, they're not close to eliminating from us. i said this a few months ago, i can actually remember. and then we utilize, sometimes i go home, i get emails and things like that and people were sort of, you know, wanting to meet, wanting to sort of laugh me off the set. but now we're seeing the photos and the, and the video images. and we also heard anthony blinking,

the former us secretary of state and kind of his final, actually start, stood out before the world and said how mazda is not even close to being eliminated . in fact, he said that how mazda is almost as strong now as it was at the beginning of the inflections as quickly as i losing them. exactly, exactly, and we have to remind people, we don't actually know how many, how most fighters have been lost from us has not announced it. and we, there's no way any serious person can take what is real says seriously. we know that it is from israeli soldiers themselves, that they sort of consider anyone killed in a, quote, unquote kills on to be a quote unquote terrorist. and so they just sort of tally up the figures in that way. but the reality is that how mazda, at least in terms of membership, in terms of fighters, is about as strong a today as it was back on october 7th. they also have plenty of weaponry. they've been able to re purpose unexploded is rarely bombs. and they've been doing that by, by the thousands. and so the question then becomes israel was not able to

eliminate how mass with this devastating bombardment of gauze are 15 months of a bombing. what to the point where a guy is or is now is not as donald trump is saying, a demolition side, then how can is real expect to eliminate from us with a few more months or even another year or 2 years of war, especially lower. and i don't want to go on too long here, given the fact that from us, yes, as an organization, but it's also the idea of resistance sort of representing itself in this organization. but as long as there is an occupation, as long as there is aggression committed against the policy people, there will be someone there to resist. and don't forget, of course, that they have to go to increasing popularity and you'll keep hide westbank. that's for another conversation, which maybe we'll get back to sometime this morning from now it's gonna take a few is back to the ballot in central gulf of correspondence tart,

i assume is the forest topic. we were expecting this release of the 3 captives to be at the top of the alice some 8 or 9 minutes ago what movement to using as well. so now the laura, we did not receive the via toes of the international committee of the red cross arriving to the sides of the really spot. we have obsessed over the course of the past. always the most civilians are still streaming into this road. just all i do know it was uh, this place or when what news the release of the of the may is really tough to. today we saw the dot net fights is have a right to decide on different fields preparations. in fact, when may we hop seen that money must have a fight to have a 3 to drones in this site in order to secure the hoops of, of which would be international commit to the course vehicles. we'll go through on

how to promote extra parts of the order to be securing a maintaining the security procedures on this most, most of this method of this military time. overall, we need to remind all view is that the hands of g is very captives will take place within the coming minutes as everybody who is anticipating the arrival of the vehicles of the i see, i see any moment, fox, generally with the military and the promise has finalized all sorts of fields preparations and they are trying to a free b is very talk to a short they, as we have been told by the military, we will come us in order to be handed over to the international committee of the red cross by the general atmosphere here in the deluxe, which is that somebody in our class. joyful loans, happy regarding that release of the is very comfortable is following the delays

that we have seen just today regarding the release of the names of the it's very tough to to are supposed to be released at least i, i generally, many people were frustrated, but once they spokesperson is the middle for a wing of how much has announced the names of the is when it comes to. people started to get some sense. sentiments of a respite of following up that i'm not spend because we believe that any sort of delay, any sort of challenges in such sensitive time. us uh, the negotiations for the 2nd phase of deceased by a deal start to could really impact uh the uh, potential negotiations and the possibility to uh, to make the ceasefire completely holding a during that very sensitive time. but on the ground. everybody is in a states of a lot waiting for the arrival of the vehicles of the international committee of the red cross civilians came in very large numbers part there are completely bracing on for the night thing. with the minutes we're going to how much just to ensure that

the scene of the hands over it will be highly valued and will make an will a proposal just to avoid the very make it to a picture that has been released from the city of holl notice in the previous round of the release of it's by the top to a, from the 7 costs of the gaza strip. so we need somebody to solve here was that this is the 1st time that a b as in some areas of gone. so what, what's missing the release of is what it comes to the choice of location uh, usually made by the military link of how much in coordination with regional magenta's, the time of the release of the is what it caps. it's usually pre determined by the how much movement and coordination with the international committee of the red cross, who have been playing a very significant role in facilitating communication. but we conflicting talk to and guarantees a safety officer is ready,

come to some side with the potential. tell us the prisoners who are expected to be released from the general atmosphere is quite electric. talked with onto the patient and see it regarding the release of a policy that might take place once. this is what it kept us handed over to the is by the military and through united again with the family members in the tack. and we were seeing preparations that are in the room and as well the military base, the helicopter has arrived, waiting to take those captives one say, to live in 5 international right across con, void that come boy, we understand as he was saying is own root in gauze that to that site, that to down by the way they will be responsible for the handover of the cap, says they'll be taking them down to this way, seeing how they cope to an already i'm on the pulled up between daughter and israel from the that'll be taken to a hospital in central israel, for a medical check,

are gonna need to be united with that friends and family. those events, highly choreographed in that are on fall out for the moment. type will leave you the and just gonna know to the city what a honey my fluid is also monitoring events because how to use the nurse thing over a change of mood. so in the last few hours as this exchange is imminent, the absolutely on is not just only the release of the captive and the expected release of a 111 palestinians who were detained in the past 15 months. and on monday. and this been times in one of the forest detention centers, the work, the human eyes to work towards her to work physically tortured by these really military. and there were some of the leaks in the past 15 months talking about what happened to many of the policy needed. so for a lot of families here who have family members in,

inside this particular detention center and other centers for them, that's a rebirth of their family members, rebirth of their relatives and loved ones that they are coming out of this a live. and this is one of the things that makes the whole thing much better for people. right? right now, it's also the fact that mid 3 quarters or whatever historical context involved in that particular area, that every time these really military and not only in the past few months, if the over it then and separate separated the a, the, the, the, know, the part of from the funding part of the street, but it also has a history of a league, a set of them is a history of becoming a death trap for many of the people who tried with are in the 1st intifada. the 2nd intifada, as well as in the past 15 months at this prep, for many people who crossed from northern parts to java cities, the withdrawal of these really monitor that is expected to happen tomorrow will offer more and smooth and better on his mode and move in for people from the

southern parts into this, the, the northern part of the step, particularly that this place, palestinians who remain there this place been sites and tins gowns and only a few of their family members arrived here, returned just to make sure they're going to prepare a place for their family members. i think there though there are new ones because as of now with the worst and the weather conditions all over a groove, the children and elderly will not be able to afford these living. busy tolerate the difficult living conditions are created by the devastation and also by the fact the lack of filters. so all in all there is a change in the mood. there is more excitement, more happiness. but it is also coupled with uncertainty to of the future because nothing is searching now until the beginning of the 2nd phase of the car. that's the part where everybody feels. reconstruction should side and more a it should be coming in to show their people and provide them with necessary

supply and honey, you've seen them at the ship a hospital just in the last few days. this was once the largest public health facility in gauze, or it's now just a show of a building the health system in gauze that has been completely decimated as well as of that of the absolutely. yeah. now the whole golf on northern part is largely defending the one on one health facility thats the hospice that i know when to from a small margin a life insurance of old health facility into now uh main stream of health and service has been providing health care for thousands of california and what are those for the trap here in golf and the northern part in the past few months or does this place allison is returning here? all need of in the media medical intervention, medical and better medical care. and it can accommodate this large number it's we

were at the hospital in the past a few days just went in to check on what's going on to get a feeling of what's happening to the hospital and the dates ability. and it's just, it's a quite a catastrophic, it's very small, doesn't have the capacity to accommodate large number of injury. the patient doesn't have the, the elements, the necessary elements and infrastructure to provide care for hundreds of thousands of people with the live ship, a hospital gone completely destroyed. and literally dealing with that they just, we are reported so much about a ship, a hospital and other health facility, but we did not expect coming back and seeing it didn't pull the room with nothing left from a ship. a hospital, not even the corner of its buildings or inside the emergence department, or the special surgery department, or the maternity ward. everything in the house, including the oxygen stations, the but the, the solar power system. that the medical lab, everything was destroyed and it was done in a system,

is systematically to the point where all means of life have been literally destroyed. and eventually people will uh realize that this place is uninhabitable not suitable for life. this is what seems to what happened. it just the systematic destruction of places like that. i see of a hospital just increasing vacuum right now in terms of what's available in terms of health care and health facilities across the goals district. that's honey lockwood, reporting that from gauze of 50 and the newest honey for the moment. thanks very much. that's bringing home to saul, who actually is joining us from the georgia and capital a man because there's really government on the policy. no authority has bind. i'll just hear from reporting inside israel and in the occupied westbank. have the, let's talk about what happens in israel today as far as your web, because we can see pictures of a helicopter at, i'll be a reading the bank upon military base. and israel,

we understand that the international committee of the red cross team is on its way to don't bother to receive the 3 mail civilian captive. so due to be released today, once the red cross has the tool cuts through what happens next? and that's right. the international committee of the red cross is on their way to retrieve these 3 is really captive civilian men. and once they're handed over to the red cross, they will then be driven across the border into israel to the e mail air base in the southern part of israel, which is right near the guns a board or so at this military base. they will be given an initial medical evaluation i d verification to check that this is in fact this person and then an initial medical and psychological evaluation. they will be reunited with immediate family. they are one or 2 members of their family before their finally air lifted. it to

a hospital in central israel right outside of tel would be both of these really military. the health ministry and the hospitals themselves have said that they have been prepared for the release of these captives. it's a choreographed system that's been in place actually not just since the beginning of this ceasefire deal, but actually since november of 2023 during the 1st and only cease fire deal we had seen. so it's similar steps and similar stages, but nonetheless, there also is really as we're gathering in what's become known as hostage square to watch the initial release that is going on in gaza. that our teams there are covering. and it's worth mentioning that these are seems better, incredibly provocative to these really government. you see how most fighters out in full force, you see banners that are actually touting the slogan that's been used by benjamin netanyahu throughout the entirety of this war. the, the terms absolute victory with the photo of missing yahoo included there. that is on this stage where the captives are going to be standing once their release,

or at least whoever is going to be released in central gone. so, but these really public, these really government nonetheless, is united in the fact that they do want to see the rest of these captives be released. but now the question is going to be what's gonna happen after phase one expires? how are these negotiations space to actually going on? what's benjamin netanyahu going to be discussing with his security cabinet upon his arrival in his real tonight and time to, to get we have a side, regardless of 183 percent in prison, is that the names have now been released to us. i'm gonna keep people on that list . we have a 111 palestinians who been detained from gaza throughout the war by is really forces and many of them held in just her respect conditions in these prisons, in southern israel and other military prisons across the country. so they're set to

be released back on the drum and because we understand that there's some movement happening and bear on pallets hire a couple of zoom, a correspondent the tart, tell us what's happening is our desire to judge on it. so i'm guessing, yeah. okay. okay, dark went on us, so then just give us an idea of what's happening the as well right now the uh pay via coast of the international committee of the red cross. all right, now its in closer to the uh, size of the release of the is where the chopsticks. i can see them in the front of my eyes. and now the prices of the minutes where you're waiting for from us off securing the movement to come to this route so that you can see of the buck the ground. are 2 spots of the process of hunting over the is very comfortable. i'm to be, i've done a transfer to the is really minutes me to be re united again with the family members. we need to remind all of us that the ice you all see it has play and got

very significant soul. and facilitating communication that way. and conflicting talk, so use are the smooth delivery of the post is rarely top so it's, i'm palestinian prisoners from the is very child. we are expecting a very smooth uh way of the, the hums overall is very top tips we can see right now we're going to see it's in the frame. uh once they are just, it's in closer to us that the military fights is of the military winkle, almost all securing the movements in order to allow for them to access this stage that you can see about the ground. now civilians are trying to corporate to open also roots off or the via codes to read through the side. and we are expecting that a 3 name is rarely taught. 6 will be released from the city of dirt by the up saw had been roads. we also,

it's important to note out to all of us who have just joined those. that at the end of this route is really military troops station just a few kilometers away from our location and its a re who you're doing. and there are expected to be completely with the drawing of from vintage right. we don't apply too much a morning as a part of the ceasefire agreement that has been re weighed israel on how much of the bucket drums. you can see that now last preparation could be seen by the military fight says the drugs all quite see of course the impala area to secure the movement of not only the vehicles, the vehicles that will carry the is rarely caps. it's use. what do you we do not know of except through the uh is valid captives vehicle will take an order to reach the sides of the release. usually such sort of security protocols have been carried out on the very strict and unknown circumstances that had been coordinated. and

pre determined by the military, wiggle from us specially that the unit designated to guarding 2 completely securing the is by the top says is known as the unit of shadow, which is a group of palestinian fighters, who have been highly selected by the intelligence community is the policy on bruce to secure and to manage the movement of the is very top to an old notifications of that talk to the too. also, we need to mention that usually the military wing of how much employee different medical stuff to follow. the mid to come assessment of the is very tough during the cup driven 2 periods before the off being released on tons, it's all bought to the international committee of direct costs as a part of the preparations made by how much movement to avoid

a i mean i'm the sister is a 2 sections of mistreatment. i'm to show a terence to the human to terry and a pull to home, or obviously spot a field which is completely contrary to the scenes that we use, where the old stuff once published, been in prison is, are released from the is very trails. be lot exhausted with different signs of torture on the bodies. and usually they come out of the is valid prisons with different psychologists. those costs will say in time, an old that to be completely raised and to have some sort of mental recovering regarding what they have. what and this is varied channels we saw in different videos that had been lead by the as ready authorities about how they are treated in detention comes. they have been a torture. tortured with different methods, probably to is very occupation forces and a jay lester. it say is we need also to focus on how civilians are reacting to it

as well as sending the policy and civilians in the dogs. a search say that policy and on fractions have been given the review. next treatments for those uh top tips was, is really up to you as well as human rights and degrades the palestinian prisoners during the detention period and is very jail's time because we understand the, the red cross, those full red cross causes and it just arrived in the last few minutes at that site, i just guessing it into position. now that maneuvering slightly pretty much your camera mind perhaps to turn around the scene from your vantage point and you can tool cars through. well, you can see from where you are to yes, i will know the camera then turn it to see the vantage of the international committee will do it close on may to now the way between among the crowds of civilians on and off the security of the military wave of

a mazda to this side of the release, hundreds of kind of thing here today to, to what this, that comes over of the east by the talk to is now these off the vehicle of the international submit your direct close. now, finally, off arriving to the sides of the release, we can see these to be at those how many times. and if we just notation and we see that now the military fights is of how much movement on opening. 7 i'm facilitating the movements to the uh, uh, this ignited location that has been pre determined incorporation. we uh, how much of movement on the regional mediators. now the vehicles have been now given be allowance by the military from us on the field commanders to move slowly on to switch them into the phase. and the studies that have been set something to infection that is surrounded by hundreds of fights as now we can see

a mandatory for months that is leading the uh, the movement of the vehicle, of the international committee, of the red cross to the sides of the release the, surrounded by side to the scene is hardly the circling party console. um, now we can see that the members of the i, c, r c. all moving freely without the restriction, without any sort of a something that had been seen previously in the previous round is very releases from the city of con eunice. we can see now that each cost carries at least 2 staff members of the i see all see who are right now was i can see them times this, these screens that there are holds. and i think the movement yard giving instruction to that they have a right onto what to do is that they have reached the sides of the i'm over

at the is very tough, cuz let me just about more to show you that now are the commanders of the military ringal from us are guarding them to talk the cause.