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day 1st, we have jeanette at the wheeler, 61 year old key, how mass figure who has been now released as part of this deal, but he actually was in poor health. so he was taken to a hospital right away for a medical evaluation as part of his detention 2nd. we have chevy about who is 47 years old, who spent it 22 years out of his 27 year sentence and is rarely jails. his father, he also a former prisoner, was actually injured this morning by is really forces who rated the family home, threatening them, telling them that there can be no celebrations. and finally, one of the most notable names is a med of what a major 45 from a refugee camp in the bethlehem, a prominent figure in fact there. but when we talk about these prisoners, these are people who was sensually to the palestinians are being welcomed back into their society. the issue of prisoners is very, very sensitive. because over the last several decades, there been around 1000000 palestinians who have been detained by is really
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authorities. and if you look at the images of the prisoners who come out of these really jail, they have the diseases on their skin, they're incredibly frail. they have diseases on their scale. there was, in fact one prisoner last week who tried not to get near his family because because he had a contagious student edition. notice gaves. the conditions in is really deals are so horrific and have even done worse under the countries former national security minister, east of marvin beer who bowed to make conditions worse. he vowed to make food rations even smaller. who about that there wouldn't be enough water supply because the palestinians, according to him, shouldn't be treated as human beings shouldn't be treated normally in is really jails. that is real. didn't really have to give them anything other than what was required by the state. but he had made that so much lesser than what it initially was. so the seems you're seeing on the screen now, or ellison,
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and celebrating the fact that these people are coming back to their society, that these people have been freed from very long sentences. some of them multiple life sentences depending on what sort of crimes they have been convicted. a it is really military courts, but it is important to humanize this fact because these are also people. and you know, these really public doesn't really see the images of palestinians being released other than when they're being slammed for the celebrations. but these are people who've also been separated from their families. they haven't been able to see them during their time and is really prisons. the 111 palestinians for being released from gaza were all people who were detained during the war by is really forces. and held in these prisons and in these other facilities like states a man which has come under so much criticism for the way they treat their detain needs. so the issue of palestinian prisoners is that the heart of the society because everyone know someone is interested or detain someone,
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know someone's relative who's been arrested or detained. so that's why these prisoner releases are seen as such victories for the palestinian people despite the efforts, bye, these really government, despite the efforts by these really military to try to mitigate all of that humanity within it. the i'm the lower kyle taking over here. it's just on 11 g m t and from view is if you're just joining us, we're seeing ju, but, and seems in the occupied west find this is ramallah where a coach and red cross coach has just arrived. and a number of released palestinian prisoners has just come off the coach to be welcomed, given a here as well. come by, huge crowds of people that waiting to see the loved ones. some of these people have been subbing much sentences. they've been detained for a long, long time, dozens of the palestinian families with gathering that in remodel, waiting to see the new ones released from the prison. a number of them
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were detained. some of these prisoners were detained, wants they were actually injured. and so let's take the lesson to how much to be someone 5, say my brother, my husband was arrested in the 2022 of the. is there any forces shelton with 12, but it's not a lot of check point. we initially had a he was killed then informed that he was alive, but in a critical condition, we spent 6 months not knowing where he is or how he's doing. he was moved to a prison from the hospital and we were only able to visit him once. we couldn't even get him to do a much needed operation in his stomach and having to that's just the outline you said just under the conditions within which many of these kind of sit in presence of being held in is rainy jails. and i said a number of them having life sense and it says others under administrative detention in this course when they haven't been given any charges on, that the tension is in desperate so great seems of jubilation that in
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ramallah as people are welcome to back hands and we're also expecting to see another coach that a positive impression is arriving of the european hospital in gauze. so of course that's gonna take a little longer to reach and we will be seeing them arriving in the next hour or 2 . and who do we know about who is being released so from as well, there's been a number of palestinian prisoners who were serving life or long sentences. $42.00 individuals were supposed to be on that bus that we just saw being released in the occupied west bank with 3 of which have gone to occupied east jerusalem back to their families, back to their homes, where there is no celebration whatsoever. a heavy hand of is really police near their homes to make sure that any sort of themes of celebration do not happen. a
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111 palestinian prisoners will be released back to gaza. these are ones that have been detained through the war, buys, really forces they were taken from doza and then there's also $27.00 prisoners who are being released back to dollars the but 7 of those are going to be deported. so essentially living in exile is part of this deal that was struck between both sides with the help of mediators. some prisoners are forwarding to israel. they didn't want to see release back into palestinian society. neither in the occupied was bank, occupied east jerusalem, or even the gaza strip. so they are going to go to egypt before. ultimately they are taken in by another our country in the region or perhaps to t l. jerry, as soon as you know, these are just some of the countries who have made those offers. what the image is . you're seeing our heroes. welcome to palestinians who are welcoming back these prisoners. despite all of the efforts, bye is really authorities to try and mitigate these celebrations,
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to try and really craft down on any sort of expressions of joy as they called it. in fact, homes that palestinian prisoners had been rated earlier and look, these are also palestinians who could be re arrested. there's a big fear that they could just be detained again and thrown back into the as really prison system. in fact, some of the most notable prisoners has been released as part of this deal had been called out by name, by really authorities, including the defense ministers saying that they could be killed if they engage in similar activities of political parties or causing you fax ends or anything that is related to resistance. so there's a huge fear of course that that is something that could happen. and because look, there were people who were released back in november of 2023 who were re rested and released as part of this deal. so that's always something that's on the mind. the palestinian prisoners were released from his really jails. terms of how hurt so reporting that from a mindful moment hemmed up. many things that's good with the tire cover. assume now
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he joins us from con eunice and something gaza talk on sunday. you are, you are paid hospital where we were saying just a little earlier, were expecting another group of palestinian prisoners to be released to arrive the eminently of the yeah, that's right. laura, i'm right now at the europe at hospital in the city of con units in the south of the strip. while we are expecting the arrival of these palestinian released debts in use within the incoming hours. specifically that we have seen different corporations being made on the ground by the international community communicated committees of direct cross regarding their medical preparations inside the building that you can see of the background. along with the cooperation with because of health ministries to access the health of the palestinian release activities who are expected to reach a be repeat hospital. today we are expecting the release of a 131 palestinians that use who will be able to be transported by the teams of the
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i see i see to the order to get hospitalized as the families all waiting anxiously at the other end of this road it to be re united the gun with the family members. we have been told by the i see, i see that the money is to carry out different sorts of free, free pot shot interviews with the expected released activities in the east bed in jails regarding the assessment that had been made to check their fitness a to travel back to the gaza strip as a sort of the pool pool that has been made by the r c r c. to release a to hand over the palestinian deputies to the gauze as a health ministry here in the southern part of this trip. so we can see, or we can see that these preparations have been seen quite significant in order to assist the health of a debt to means we understand also low red. that's
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a difference of 2 ration square also made by the families of zeus released prisoners in the destroyed homes, industries that you use to left. and i can see right now the songs that have been played since the past a few hours as to celebrate things that very bites, a sweet re union and for many palestinians. and i'm one of them. i'm waiting for the, for the release of the releasing of my own think it was detained by the speedy occupation forces in the body. a refugee tom p has been detained along with his eldest son. but he, he is desperately waiting to be reunited again with his family that has been waiting him desperately to be a to meet him on the very unbelievable circumstances that took place over the course of the past few months. and i can see on the horizon, hundreds of 1000 years are gathering to be reunited and to meet their beloved ones will have been behind. east valley paused for food and he is feeling i'm
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experiencing different sorts of psychological and visit code to, to apply to it's very few things from forces as we so different things and images for the previous release palestinian destinies regarding the 2 ration that took place on their public health and they are waiting by chance to be reunited with the loved ones and to re again have some semblance of normality that had been deprived of the word deprived of from for very long 2 years. but they are returning to a lot of this page that had been widely shunted on change by the re union of this or with the family members will help them to forget old use of the times. and the very devastating the reality that they will see once they're going to be reunited on route time back to district a topic. just to be clear we, we restore a list of the $183.00 palestinian prisoners that were being released today. that was released just in the last few hours. can i just be clear?
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was your uncle annual cousin? did you see the names on that list? a man, i only saw the name of my uncle. i did not say i did not see the name of my cousin a specifically that uh he has lost his uh, one of his funds in the valley or with me. and he does not know this so far. so we are struggling to keep him updated as we are waiting for him to return back into the room for united with his wife. that is waiting him into a value or refuge account. she was not able to come to the southern possibly cause the straight because she was perfectly wanted during the is very previous knowledge of ration. and he has no idea that she has lost his son as he was trying to uh, bring what was off for his family members during the latest is for the military operation in it. devalue arrest of dekalb that has lost it for more than a 100 days in which to devalue refuge account has to be a very delta state to
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a lot of the state where civilians are right now struggling off of their, their rates on to the north dakota with the situation, the light of the very 3 dialed civil infrastructure and the cost to take over water networks and supplies in the north of district. so this is a very bike to a sweet reunion, not just for my uncle, but for hundreds of cows thing. prisoners, i certainly have lost many of their beloved ones of friends colleagues, and many of the family members as this re re re union will be always mixed with happiness and for you, for the great losses that palestinian people have been enduring since the onset of this military genocide campaign on the striped floor and the entire on top of that, we know that a number of people, a number of prisoners to be released will be deported from palestine. do we know anything more about the circumstances around that deportation?
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well i have, i had conversations with the i see i see members, they say that be all facilitating the pot shots and that child support site shifts to the gaza site without adding without repeating 5 that details. but we understand that a $183.00 prison, those detainees will be released today, including a 100 i sent you. one of them will be completely transport set and develops it too because of strep. yeah, a $111.00 of them were detained off to october. the 7th i talked during these many, many treat operations in various parts of the gaza strip in the valley, but not yet by tunnel. and indeed, other parts here in the south of the territory for many families, the waiting for the moment. but the question is, are we going to witness any sort of delay? especially with that we have been hearing different is for the media report suggesting that they are not quite satisfied with the seems that they had which today in the release of these fairly captives from the city of derek by despite the
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high level of discipline that has been, why do you see, and i'm showing during the hand over of the is very tough to says no sort of threats or chatting just we're facing the or threatening the lives of the is ready captives while they were 100 pounds and go back to the i see us see, but definitely we can see a very well disciplined flu per pet scenario that has been widely on, practically translated into play on the ground incorporation with old a part sees as a do is uh this has been allowed to leave tanza and to uh, to be transported to be is really mil it treats on the initial medical check. i'm to be lights every united with the family, friends and support system awaiting them on the other side of the occupied palestinian touches. okay, dark. assume wasting that the european hostility, con eunice for the next group of palestinian prisoners who have been released from
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offer prison, tired and many things indeed for free is the scene of where joining us now here in the studio. so some bar cavities professor of public policy at home i have been in felicia university. i'm from tel aviv. we have our a gold bag and his writing political commentators. thoughts on this to start with you is we watch these pictures of celebrations in the occupied westbank in ramallah as that 1st boss, the i see on the bus arrived the number of how the city and prisoners go saw fit. they were given a harry as well come monday enough to be, i mean they, these people have been in prison. so for a long period of time, often without due course of just as own. and uh, unfortunately this has been the history of the relationship between the palestinians and israelis ever since the occupation of 1967 that they can only be released through this sort of exchanges. that hasn't been a system that allows people to be released domestically or so,
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of course of the you know, taking them to court. and i know that because the quote is, is really the noise is really the armies is right. and it's all lined up against the palestinians throughout so you can understand why few people feel so happy to be able to see the relatives. again. many of them would have submitted to the faith that they may never see them, you know, again and, and the same probably applies to some degree to those. so going to be released and, and goes i think those of the reason guys are the fortunate ones that is, that has captured that not killed on the spot. because yeah, if you go back to that, the days of the war, we saw how to get happy. they were to the extent that they can see over there on hostages. were trying to escape from us. and there, monday then was to shoot to kill. they were not in any mood of capturing anyone. so these people from the fortune that they have been captured in the 1st place. and
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now they're being released. as hart said, yeah, but it's a sweet movement for so many people who the cold is due to be released but doesn't know they don't know if he knows that his son was killed, joined the will in jamalia. very unlikely that they know honestly because they were cut off the rest of the world, and many of them were not even allowed to be seen by i c r c for a long time. so he's probably in for a surprise already, but it's bringing you into the discussion here because of course, we're looking at the pictures of the palestinian prisoners being released now. but just a few hours ago, we were looking at 3 captives being released from gauze a back in to israel bits a sweet moment for them to because they to a, going back to families that are being broken of their personal stories are very tragic. least 2 of them have lost more than one level one and there and that may ca, just condition
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a send. they were held that they look after the previous exchanges, where the prisoners who were afraid were uh, you know, but did not look as in such a bad way. uh, the use of all registered very profoundly of the collective as early consciousness . the tragedy of this war is something that is beginning, i thinks, to be acknowledged even though most of these rallies are now fully occupied with describe is in great detail and graphic exaggeration, the horribleness of somebody who had tortured these prisoners. and i wonder if anyone, nurses, or recognizes the fact that there may see ation may well have been due to the fact that there is a lack of food in garza. and that has been for 15 months. and especially in the news of gauze, or whether it was a sage for more than a 100 days, when no food, no aid goes into the strip. is there any recognition of that being the situation
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for every single person in the goals and strep? not only is there no recognition, but any attempt even insinuated this, as the case is seen as morally of parts, there is no comparison. uh, the production of these is early prisoners was an immoral act. it was a crime is relative what it had to do and it. ready has to do spouse to hands as soon as their general. ready the all terrorist and they deserve it, they can get any attempt at a comparison is seen, once again is morally a point, felton, what do you make of that? the, the, the barry that's the, just the comparison of palestinians suffering with is really suffering is considered morally appearance. while it's, this is, this is the central of the whole colonial project. you must feel like that you need to divorce yourself from any feelings towards the other in order to get it into you that you have the right to go and kick somebody out of their home and live in their
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place. you cannot really be compassionate towards the, the others anyway. and this is maybe what to, unfortunately, is where it has implanted that its population or ever since, as creation. and particularly through the service in the army, i think the army is the melting pots that is creating, this is right for on the identity. and everyone who served in the military would recognize the way they are led to the humanize, the palestinians on purpose in order to accept this kind of interpretation. adobe, when we say everyone who's talking about doing that is definitely what isn't it? because it's, you have to go into the motor at a certain age of certainly, and if it is everybody that the sauce that uh up. so dennis talking about is very much presence, even in those sectors who don't serve or do in a breached service. this notion, that's the best thing that could happen to israel,
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and i think we're seeing that over the past few. this is if the task indians were simply gone, he would wake up one day in the past and he has, we're simply not there. that is a broad sweeping consensus that is shared by pretty much every element sector, group of jewish, israel's, and fulton, that is also a point of view that a shed as we look seamless. paul, sweet buying us present. donald trump, he has talked about the permanent resettlement of palestinian 70. yes. but when to go where imposing that they should go to jordan and egypt. and other way he's ready to undermine the 2 states that have now for decades kept the peace agreements with as well, and protected as boundaries and waiting to really a long way. if you would have a code back in april that you're doing is took a huge risk by acting as the front line of defense against the origin and drones and the size. another be rewarded by saying, well, i don't really care if you go into details and he should care. because if jordan
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does, it show then falls apart. and it turns into a civil war because of his in sensitivity and lack of understanding of the battery that it could balance between east bankers, west bankers within jordan as well is going to be at the right. and it's a long wrong border, and he's not gonna secure as well as the next step would be to off to by jordan in order to secure is as well and say working for jordan. and there's only about 10000000 people that this may be doable. then on the addiction side, the a 120000000 egyptians is got to deal with and see, see is holding them, you know, with a really thin veneer of morality. and we can't really explain why he has kept the boat as close. why he did not a lot of much more 80 to as a lot of pushes best. and to now place him under pressure is, is very short sighted. and this is coming at, you know, at the time when he's also taking the decision to stop us 8 operations. although he
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made that exemption the to, to ages jordan aid has been stopped. and in the middle of all the operations ice in the middle like this of the world. so the combination of all these policies are really creating a much more fuel. it's a situation grizzle, which will definitely threaten its very existence if it goes and that that will read. and as a phone was a saying that these kind of comments that we're hearing from the us, the situation currently is like the stabilizing for israel. but next, you know, here's one of it say today was to bring security and safety for his writing these to his writing, still any say so now the may did before october 7, really most definitely not. and i think all as early as just about are very much aware of the fact that nothing else lives on the stabilisation. that's true domestically just as it's true with regard to the palestinians and to them at least
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to the world at large, as always, or certainly not feeling more safe and secure. that it behooves our prime minister to carry out this demonstration of brings and ship because it is good for his political future. and because he doesn't really see a way out now, he's trying this balancing act and trying to maintain it for as long as possible in the hope that he'll be saved by someone from the outside. uh donald trump may have potentially being such a savior. but i think we all have an understanding of where his plan is going after 2 days of being completely up in the air and flailing. so if any i will allow, look to his next stay here and strangely enough. i think it isn't. it's an as best political interest to see stage one of the hostage deal with almost ended. and i would cautiously suggest that he also has an interest in securing stage 2. he is already talking about is red lines for stage 2. it's to my mind suggests that that,
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that is where he's going fulton stage to face to this. these 5 deal of negotiations have around 2 weeks to get on the way before it starts in 3 weeks time. one of the main sticking points, the well, the main issue is whether it's a withdrawal or now in phase one, uh to the boat to the boundaries of guys within the 7700 meters or so from the, from the 96 to 7 border as well does that, that it does as shows to the policy is that it is serious and willing to go through into phase 2 and the other issues in relation with that they, they, mediators our cable off keeping the side still feature each other. nothing. you know, as you know, had a phone that i have all of his teams waiting for the outcome of his discussion with, from even delayed his own return to as riley is staying up as for the weekend trying to gain an influence drums decision in relation to the west bank
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and allowed to realize again depends on the way the trump and that the national react. now, particularly after the visit biking abdullah of jordan, king of the judges due to to meet the present a and on tuesday i think and if king of the is not able to convince them that to me is to draw a line under this crazy proposed advertising go back to the original, the national to nationally enshrined physician about the to say to state solution. then i don't think the that'd be a phase 2 and for 3 would be that totals guilty was felt in the middle of phase one . let's just to bring our attention back to the events of today that we can see on our screens. events a list of the as rated captives being released. now in the last hour we have seen palestinian prison is arriving in ramallah great hugs of joy. the from friends and relatives, as
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a number of the 183 palestinian prisoners jews be released today has come off red cross and bosses and have been freed into ramallah in the occupied west bank. already. as we watch these pitches we, we understand the full of those palestinian prisoners had to be immediately taken to hospital. but a number of them have said that even though they were jailed for 20 years, nothing compared to the treatment that they received in his writing. the jails during the last 15 months of gauze as well. now, i know there's a lot of anger in israel over the emaciated states of the 3 is really comp temps who were released earlier today. but if we look at the state of palestinians, it says bad. oh, it's very bad. and this is all considered very amusing with our foreign ministers, national security. because then grew repeatedly and consistently made conditions worse for cost and in prison, prisoners in his early presence. again, there is,
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there is this gap of almost complete. the human is ation. that makes palestinians at best extras and profs in his early months of productions and it wears completely non existent when ben did, did this to hosted in prisoners and reports came out of this house, the indian prisoners dying in his early presence as early as were not disturb israelis were indifferent. this was what it was, it was a war that things happened to bad people and so on and so forth. i have to say again, there's absolutely no connection between what is happening and is early prisoners and what happened in the guys district in the as early mind. and there's absolutely no responsibility as far as their leases are concerned on israel's part to the plight of the prisoners. certainly not on official media. that said, i think a lot of these rallies understand what happened,
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understand the effects that as well as bombings and is those policies 9 uh the entrance of the uh, age and perhaps intentional starvation, as well as early as understand the effects of these policies had on the state of the prisoners, but it is extremely far to even articulate these thoughts in hebrew, in his role at the moment. okay, when you have that sultan, how do we even see a path to phase 3 of goals are being ruled by and, and see whether it's from us, whether it's paid the policy no far and see whether it's a joint and still the international uh, monitoring group but how do we see a stage where garza is existing alongside israel.

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