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the the which is with the the alarm serial then yea, it's good to have you with us. this is the news our lives from bill coming up in the program today. c tears of joy social's guns in the occupied with 183 palestinian prisoners are reunited with their families. in the 5th cease fire exchange with israel. 7 of those prisoners are taking it immediately to hospitals and medical treatments. many say they were
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abused is really costs. earlier i am us released 3 is really captives who have since reunited with their families after a hand over ceremony in central 1000 plus level non forms. its 1st governments in more than 2 years promising security and stability. the israel and homos have successfully carried out the 5th exchange of 3 captives for $183.00 palestinian prisoners sparking celebrations and emotional reunions. bus loads of the free to palestinian prisoners have been arriving across the gaza strip in hon. you'd, as they were taking 3 european hospitals for medical checks of to being and is really presence. many of their family members didn't even know if they were dead or alive the,
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the prisoners and also return to the occupied westbank. large crowds in ramallah celebrated their release . some prisoners are so sick that they have to be carried straight to the hospital . earlier, 3 is really captives were handed over to red cross officials and then returned to his room. the 1st to be released was 56 year old or had been i mean was reunited with his wife ross. she was also taken in the october 7 the tax but was released by almost back in november of 2023. the 2nd captive to be released was 52 year old eli. sure i'll be his wife and 2 daughters were killed in the october 2nd attack. and the 3rd is really to be released was or levy. the 34 year old was taken during the nova music festival. his wife was killed during the correspondence are cowboys who was in fine
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. eunice, one of the buses carrying policy and prisoners arrived for the prisoners on vincent, who had been released from things by the days off to a very long periods of detention. that was marked by the stating torture on a very, in human humiliation treatment that they have received and do it on the hands of the is rarely james authorities seized in the study detention cops that have been widely set for the palestinian destinies, who have been detained. at off to october, the summit to attack and also for the 2 is probably sending the prisoners whose stuff behind the is probably paused for decades without seeing the sun life. and now the united again with the family members. and i seen that sounds to be incredibly charming and full of jubilation and memories that will forever last in their minds and hops. it's ok, let's go straight to honeywell who would know who joins us live from the city. so
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honey, as we said, policy and prisoners were released in different points across the gaza strip. talk to us about the palestinians were released. what do you know about them? how are they doing and where are they? where are they now? well, how else demands release? the earlier hours to be where a $183.00, palestinian, among them a 111, where the pain of from dogs are further from the many evacuation centers. the schools that many of the residential homes that they were trapped inside of the israeli monetary, carried out a grotto offensive and major parts of the entire dall distribute, where the jan and demon i physically tortured and were sent through many of the detention centers and occupied territories, that adjusted basement part of the city. among the money for you detention center, it's very denied where people were actually killed inside this. uh, it depends on center. some of them were physically abused sexually abused then of the, where the private from the sleep at the sleep. that provision is the private from
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having access to proper supplies like food and water. as soon as they step out of the the bus today, i got the review and hosted that a huge crowd was waiting for the will coming the 111 palisade that were all the 10 in the past 15 months. the other 72. how experience release are among the be, you know, where spends on the live family close to 52 where i sent them to long turned in a riley. hey jail, that is really detention centers. a lot of them were under the administrative defense in system. that is, that will tell us any of the prisoners without any charges, that is quite illegals. but as we see right now, people who actually that read through that nobody thought they were going to come out of the present because we did that from past experience. how a feeling of your know for sure as to that your step inside is really just you step into the on non complaint dark is there's no way that your life is guarantee your
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safety stock guarantee at all. but seeing them to release out cause is a huge level of happened, is that for? yeah. and your relation as people come because literally nobody expected, particularly those 111. after october 7th, where they did, nobody expected them to be set free into the back into their homes that they got through a lot of the unfortunate they're coming box ready losing many of the family members going back, do many of the destruction and that of the station included their own home. so the 1st side is going to be very difficult for these people because they're already lost many of their family members. there is no place for them to stay and no shelter for them, particularly the homes that be lost in the past. 15 months, as is really military and raised the area and mass bombarding it for the past few months. so honey, you make the very important points that for many of them there's no place to stay. so what actually happens? where are they right now as we speak?
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i mean, they got off those buses. some of them got medical checks, they will reunited with their families. and then what the vast majority of palestinians release today, the 100 the 11 are going to be staying at the gather would be on top of that simply because there is no place for them to go through. the majority of them are from the north and. 7 the city was from here where we see that complete devastation of all means of life. literally, there are no homes. we check with some of the people that many of the people that are free to that are coming back that but they will not find their homes expanding and jump out of for example, devalue rep is you can divide the account entire, know the house, turn into more of a pipe. oh bravo. so most likely to stay in inside the gaza or fee on hospital until a show there is available for them. and as part of the, the trauma, the chances not only the words, it's in sports or it's an abuse, but now they're coming back to this with that as station do for want ever to make
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matter worse. some of them are free today, but they don't have family members waiting for them outside. they've got the review and talk to them, and that makes it very difficult and increases the trauma that they went through in the past 60 months. honeymoon importing from gaza city inside the gaza strip. thank you very much. is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu has criticized the scenes of the captive exchange, as office released the statement saying the shocking images that we have seen today will not go unaddressed. author 0 is neural de, is in amman, jordan and the usual reminder nor that you're reporting there because israel has a and the palestinian authority. you have banned out from 0, from reporting from within israel or the occupied westbank. so this is a very short statement. this won't go unaddressed by benjamin netanyahu. do we have any idea of what that means as well,
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sir. we know that according to some media reports and as well, there is some thinking of lowering the amount of humanitarian aid aloud into a gaza in response to the apparent weight loss that these 3 men of 3 captives had suffered and also possibly to demand proof of life and status of health of the remaining captives who are alive. of course, this is in sharp contrast to the declared policy that is real, have against the palestinian prisoners. they're allowed a one minute shower every 10 days. they're forced to wear a bracelets upon release that says the internal nation does not forget. i will pursue my enemies and overtake them. they're made to read that and understand that they will be watched and that they could be even assassinated if they returned to any kind of political activity or association with resistance groups or resistance
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parties. of course, the one person who responded to nothing. yeah. who sarah was the leader of the opposition in israel? yeah. lucky. who told him that he doesn't buy this manufactured shock because nothing. yeah. whole new from the reports of his intelligence services. but the status of his really kept as was very dire. that because is where it was denying the entry of food to gaza, the captives were also suffering. they were also going hungry. just as the population in garza was going hungry. they did not have access to enough medicine because israel wasn't allowing enough medicine into gaza. so those, those comments really being answered also within israel, not just by palestinians who point to the miserable state of palestine. he is released from his really captivity nor negotiations on a permanent ceasefire. in other words, the next phase of the deal were due to start several days ago already on monday,
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but they haven't. so is the deal in danger of the deal was endangered the moment it was announced there. oh, that's because it's very fragile and there was so much to consider, especially for nothing. yeah, that's why it was phased out. phase one allowed for the release of his really civilian captive, the woman, the sick, the infirm of the a civilians but face to will have to involve as for the agreement, a complete withdrawal of israeli troops an end to the war. and this is something that could cost nothing. yahoo, his coalition government, which is let's remind her of yours the most right. when government is really history, already one minister, it's a might been viewed who headed the nation, ministry of national security. less the government left the coalition because nothing yahoo agreed to phase one. now you have another minister,
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a very key partner who can make or break this governments a bit slow smoke stretch. who is the minister of finance? some of the facts to rule are really of the occupied was fast because he has a ministry within the ministry of defense in his room. he's saying that if nothing, yahoo declares an end to the poor, he will leave the government and bring it down. so nathaniel is now trying to maneuver talking about possibly extending phase one and keeping those release of captives happening without really ending the war, possibly being open to discussing and enter the war. if how must agree is not just to disarm, but to have all of its figures and the leaders and prominence of the members leave the gaza strip, it was always very difficult to imagine how is real invest, searched that it would negotiate with him. us the movements own demise, but this is where we are as well as sending a low level delegation to contact, to participate,
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to listen to the discussions. but already we know that there is no mandate to make decisions. so this is going to be difficult and re, really it's on the mediators to push everybody's to keep the cease fire alive. and so keep those discussions happening for as long as possible, hopefully until we reach phase 2 of the agreements. ok nor that's great. thank you . very much for all the analysis and the context here as nora day reporting from amman. jordan, let's take this to alone pincus, former console general of israel's in new york alone. thank you for being with us. you're joining us from tel aviv today. um, what's the feeling? it is realistic there. what's the feeling in israel this evening after everything that they've been watching on their tv screens throughout the day? oh, it's it's, it's a minute. it's a mixed feeling it's. it's like a split screen in people's minds on the one hand, they are a jubilant. any late is of this happened. on the other hand, a fear that the next phase may not happen. they the,
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there is uncertainty about the next increments. and the next installments of um, hosted release. it is and they are looking at the medical and physical condition of the 3 hostages. that came back there is a lot of anger and resentment toward the prime minister. and it says, you know, shows on this day to stay in a suite at a fancy hotel in washington d. c. so you take that combination of the lation and frustration. and that's, that's basically the public sentiment right now. it's a little surprising what you mention about that. yeah, he's in a hotel. he's in washington. he's not even in the country. right. he's actually extended his trip in washington. he should have been um, by his original schedule in israel today. little surprising for somebody who's such a savvy political operator. because i think you could argue it is to be expected that there would be criticism of him for not being even in the country on a day like today. what do you make of that?
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as you know of, um where, where do i begin? 0 uh he should resign after october, 7th, 2023. you should have resigned on october 8th, 2023 and should have resigned every day since there had been 491 days. exactly. since all that said and done, your right study has a reputation for being a public relations or public sentiment savvy. but he lost all that in the last 23 years when he began to ins, instigated constitutional, cool. and then uh, basically declared war and israel's democratic institutions and then came the war. so he lost a to a large extent. like to a large extent, i'm sorry, he either lost that savvy news or stopped caring about it. all he looks at right now 0 is, is the, the relative stability of his coalition. there don't start does not seem to be as
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an internal threats of inside the coalition. that's all the cares about. the of the accusers, the entire world, the families of the hostages, the, the over 50 percent of the public. so trying to undermine in the time of more, this is nothing that 10 the out with is you know, the savvy instincts that you're talking about of recent years is ben benjamin netanyahu willing to move to a permanent ceasefire, in other words and the war? oh no, absolutely not. um he has, he has indicated that to that agreed extensive degree several times. now he's trying to reopen, i'm reading, mitigates on the agreement saying that he is really negotiating team was manipulated by the mediators by car, by each year. but even by the argument ministrations, blaming the world over, but more importantly, 0 is the fact that as of tuesday, 3 days ago, 4 days ago,
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there's a new variable in this game. and that is donald trump's applying to evacuate slash expelled 2300000 palestinians. take all over the garbage strip. turn this into some kind of a riviera and for a minute to turn that on y'all's point of view, whether that's feasible or not. and he knows it's not feasible, but irrespective of the feasibility of this in his mind, it gives him some reprieve. he does not need the ceasefire. he's going to use a very simple argument. i take president trump seriously. he intends to take over the gaza strip. you cannot take over the guy has truth with how much spill in power, 16 mazda after the war started and he found and pledged to eliminate, come us and try to get us something which he has not succeeded. in doing so now we need to resume the word to make sure that trump's plan is going to work. this is, this is the kind of manipulation that you would expect from him. i don't think it's
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going to work serial, but novelist is what i, when this is what he's going to try and do. so i was going to ask you what netanyahu's next move might be and you've begun to answer given, given what he likely sees as his political constraints, right. on the one hand, he's got his riley's who by and large, want to see the ceasefire deal completed because they want all living and dead hostages to be removed. then i understand this to be a majority of these really public that wants this at this point. on the other hand, he's also got members of his government who say, if you end the war, we will bring your government down as well, you know, face between the uh, the choices of his government and the majority of the people, the visual he chooses, his government he's always done that in terms of what his next step is going to be or steps for on going to be. he's going to go back to what he does best. all the la procrastinate. insert new stipulations, asked the new conditions. there was
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a story a few hours ago that i haven't seen being followed up on the list it's, it's right up there and one of the is early news websites that he instructed the negotiating team in cost are to not negotiate, not negotiate the 2nd phase. so why are they are in comp and why are there, you know, go on that. uh, if they're not going to the goals here at the 2nd phase, then why are they there? now if you look at the agreement 0, even if there's no face to even that's negotiations on face to do not reach fruition and i'm in agreement. i'm the sequence to the next phase. the ceasefire from phase one carries all carries all. which means the theory he says yes, correct. which means he still needs the ceasefire to collapse somehow. the way he may try to do this is initiate more friction in the west,
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but are thinking that this will transfer into gaza and bring about the class of the ceasefire. or conversely, if that doesn't work, he's just going to go on and on and on with this. um, a section of hostilities which is not a ceasefire box. refrain from doing what the agreement says, i'm day 40 to reduce forces and to keep passages inside the gas trip. the so called philadelphia corridor and then the tiny board were in the central guys the strip um and, and by de 50 israel is supposed to be getting withdrawal. i don't think that's going to happen along. thank you very much for all of that. we'll talk again, but that's very useful analysis there on your end until a v. that's a long think. us thank you know, despite a successful exchange from us as total down to 0,
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the ceasefire deal is in jeopardy, accusing israel of repeated violations. as we have the funds were conveyed to clear and strict messages to the mediators including the americans. that the only views that the games by this lane is to postpone the influence of the need and the stuff for the medicine and $0.10 to cut off on some generators and the implementation of other uh, items of this uh deal including the violations by 10 and something i've seen is about $500.00 and a something above this could fit it and the to collapse and total effect in the deal not to be fulfilled as it has been agreed upon. but this part of this, from day one overboard was held to still decide collision out to prevent the war against all the people that came into the game. and therefore we have,
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when the idea does a clear uh, points describes that we hardly need to overcome any problems i know of, seconds uninterrupted, just in order to give this a should this be less of a shots to succeed. but if the site is, insist on it, violations of the deep enough implementing the data as is agreed above the shore. this one, the front of the data to uh for the collapse that's bring in more one to shower houses. you're a senior political analyst, you're joining us from doha more one. it's great to talk to you. look, we've laid it all out right in since the beginning of the show we have heard from benjamin netanyahu. we've just heard from him us. we have shown the footage of the policy and prisoners being released of these really captives being released. there's a lot this going on today. what stands out to you about today so far as well? since you've been such a great job of the past 20 minutes, i'm just gonna do some random comment 30 about what i've heard than what i've seen
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today. starting with the idea, the upstairs idea that these right is, are upset that the 3 captives have lost weight. why do i say, i'm sorry, it's actually far more than up sort it's, it's far more than cynical. it is the ultimate hotspot as the is right, is like to refer to it this man who is not unhappy, nothing you know, he is sought after by the international criminal court for what the nice thing hung guarding guy. so he's accused for crimes against humanity for been spinning famine. think guys are using hunger has a what for to for that man is complaining about the fact that the free is rate is held there most weight when countless palestinians and gods have died of starvation. countess children have died of many nutrition and he is the one
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who is responsible for about these complaining that free men of loss weight is just beyond commentary as it were. the other thing that really is put out is, and this has been going on for 5 weeks, is just the degree and the testimony. both palestinians, captive spain is right in the presence, which i doubt is going to be heard throughout, you know, the western world or these really world as it was as aware about how these really presents have long turned into chambers. the saw for sure. sure. no, i think of this kind of stadiums have a band to come out without having, having been fulcher. and some of them have lost this, that the other thing, of course, we know that some of them have dies in is there any person and worse than our
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testimonies about voip cases, can you just write it? prisons, right. so here we are 15 months into it with some $10000.00 extra prison or just in his opinion on each one of them complains about is randy barbarity. it is right. it presents why is there any prime minister? complains about 3 men who are lost way because he impose hunger on guys of my one based on what we've seen since the ceasefire began doing you think this deal can and the war let me start by another. run them comment again since your last guest, i should have done a good job on the rising. the is really mindset and the way things stand terms of i tied to have something i felt i think important to add to that, which is the following. i have been hard, greg, and now for you know, a good number of months that
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a good deal keeps getting the worlds in the united states and so on about. he's got a government forwarding and he am not having to do all these horrible things because otherwise the government, the guy implode, that was taught at home. but that was just never the correct if we was using it as pretext in order to continue with the war because he, himself is a warrant for him and the precious. and he has this personal care year on the, you know, on the, on the agent. it's been stake, and then there's the idea that we've known also for the past good number of weeks even months. that the position part is to be in part of it. that's already to come in and fill it in. when those are the fanatics, we leave the government hands along with that government just by already we have to get on the side who became fort administered of his right. and he came in step 10, right before i remember. all right, that's what i think probably before been viewed, the phonetic freshest,
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stepped out of government. now we know that the smart which, the of that phonetic is affected ink to live government. if we go into the 2nd phase and end of the war. and already we have many guns who is standing by already declared his willing ness, to join the now governments in order to ensure a majority. so the pre text of, i know, no, i cannot go on with the 2nd phase because my govern, i'm proud, is i totally nonsensical. so the, the idea here is the following. nothing, you know, it does not really want the 2nd phase. you never did. he wants to could you know, with what he's telling you that says since day one. and there's a new element that's been added to it, which is to mr. trump. mr. top has given nothing. yeah. host, like i guess now he's given your new service life. nothing else has been reborn out of his visit to washington because trump has given him unconditional support. if we
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thought that by didn't was so particular designers. i mean, tom is certain declared the headquarters items because he's supported by a certain genocide, the event general questions or once out of my give them one full kinds of wars to continue. and then from has been for the past 2 weeks, making things worse than advice and has kind in the process supporting that. then you know, that does not. that does not bode well for ending the war. now on the shower was you were a senior political analyst. thank you very much. as more one mentioned, many of those released from is really jails have given testimony of ms. treatments while in detention deal. shatara is a former policy and prisoner. she was in prison in high flow for 7 months and was released in the 1st wave of prisoner exchange that was on january 20th. earlier, she told down to 0, the palestinian prisoners are mistreated and brutalized and is really jails. it's
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very complicated. it's. so it's kind of make feelings with excitement, a c or a you would see what's waiting for you and never the village. of course, the pretended to you are being treated. we will be mistreated and all the other prisoners were released on the next exchange. dave, i witnessed that and she had a experience. it wouldn't be too. we were dread from our here as a women business. the tendency with this and the last 2 hours inside the prison. i made a not knowing what to expect and what's coming next. until the moment came, where we were with our families, we're really hoping that this is fire continues. we really hoping that all the prisoners would be free because they turned on this prison to
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a big den in human entities where they misread human beings. there are we won and that's the authority to be rebuilt. we want people in the us at the end of these. and my last which is i want the whole world to stand with it as of today because because it needs us and um, but give them a heads and it's the whole world to be united for them to have their life back again. 5 tied, kept is released from gaza, has begun their journey home. the group was taking drink. mazda is october 7th attack and held in a strip for 15 months that they were freed in the 3rd exchange and had been in this really hospital for medical examinations. one other time, national is believe to still be in gaza. still a head on elsa's era african leaders, a meeting to find a solution to the violence and the democratic republic of congo that has killed hundreds of people.
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