has no one's intention of movie to say so that put into question phase one. then he went into want ben, he went to washington and stood by uh, president trump, who came up with his um, uh guys that were vieira idea. that includes extending $2300000.00 palestinians. fast forward to today and an interview on fox news. he said that they can, they will not be able to return to guys at all. so that adds another dimension to this. and so it was only a matter of time before someone figured out that the phase 2 was not going to happen. then perhaps phase lot of this question was questionable or the implementation of it becomes a question. okay, let's just break this down into 2 parts for the, for a moment i'd like to 1st talk about the, the reaction from within is really politicians on how much support the yahoo would have for this and all. and then i just like to ask you about the is really public

a okay. as soon as early, probably during because he just asked and i just came back physically, literally on hosted square, which is why i was like joining your program. so there are more and more people coming. there are a few 1000 there. i expect it to be to increase in the next few hours. the uh, the public reaction is very uh, angry, very, a little bit against mr. an attorney out by the way, not, i guess from us, not i guess the agreement, but against mr. no time you know, for doing what he, what they think he's doing as the politicians. well that, that needs to be divided into 2 and he has this coalition which is made up of the sake of science and vertebrates. and so there's no expectation of any kind of push back from that part of politics. and then there's the opposition,

which has kept completely quiet in the last 2 or 3 hours. so in, in terms of the political arena, the rain, i don't expect anything dramatic tax in terms of the public push back. um, it remains to be seen. but i would not be surprised when i say this mildly, i would not be surprised to see a very intense, very angry and very broad push back against an attorney out in the next 24 hours. okay, look, we do have some reaction that's coming from ben give here, and he's, he's made he is, he said this and this is a reaction to the statement that was put off by or some brigade he said, how much does announcements should have one real life response of massive fire attack on garza from the air and land alongside a complete hold. so he mind if you're in a to the strip and that's just part of the statement, it does go on. how seriously should we be taking these comments and what's your reaction to to such remarks?

oh, oh, okay, i, i beg your forgiveness, doreen, and that of yours for what i'm going to say. but mister bank, there is a literary misgiving. it was whose opinions um warranted some a reaction when he was in the gulf of now that he's out of the government. although that may change. i don't think there's any reason to take him seriously. he's an incendiary and you know inciteful with a c. uh, personality who is a peer remain here. he's here to to, to create war. he's here to influence armoire. he's here to remind us, i know medically that he was governments to uh, survive, that he needs the extreme right wing. and that doesn't change when i said at the outset, then again, i beg your forgiveness for saying what i said about, you know,

in a non television like language but, but this is really absurd and a blast for me not to even take him seriously. okay, i'll and print test form or console general if it's really new york, we thank you for us making to us from tel aviv this. our thank you will not cross back to henderson who are joining us from jordan's capital on mine because the is really government and the palestinian authority have bound delta 0 from the 40 inside israel. and from inside the occupied westbank home to talk to us about what reaction has been coming through from israel. of the hoover hearing that is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu was actually holding a security consultation right now with top ross for me, is really military and security establishment after the assembler gauges announcements. but they are going to hold the release of as really captives until further notice. citing is rarely violations of a ceasefire deal,

especially when it comes to humanitarian aid. we also know that tomorrow security cabinet meeting has been moved up to the morning. it's no longer in the afternoon and now the is really government is essentially going to scramble to find out what to do next. but we also know that the family members of is really captives the, bring them back. now movement have reached out to mediators to try and assist with the situation that is now spiraling out of control, saying that the mediators need to get involved to help give assurances so that the deal can continue are scheduled and can eventually go on to phase 2 and 3, however, you have reaction from is really officials like the defense minister, israel cats who has put these really are be on the highest level of preparation, preparing for all out scenarios, including back to full scale war. but it's important to note, but also at this hour, you family members of captives who were not expected to be released as part of phase one, but later on. and phase 2 for blaming these really prime ministers. so there is

blame now toward these really government for why this deal is happening. the way it is saying that he's the one with, along with his political establishment, who were sabotaging this from the beginning and were waiting for any sort of excuse to go back to war. so they're calling on the government to uphold their promise. after passing this deal that it will go through not just to phase one, but to phase $2.00 and $3.00. and i'll remind our viewers that there are still 76 captives being held in gaza, who wouldn't be released if this deal falls apart. so how much pressure is this development putting on? nothing you as well, i think it's too soon to tell exactly how much pressure is going to be on this in yahoo. but throughout the entire course of the war, no matter how much pressure was put on this and yahoo from these really public, from the family members of the hostages and to bring them back, no movement, no matter what they did, no matter how much they protest, he's seemingly didn't care and he dismissed their concern saying that he was doing

what he can to bring back the captives assuring them that military force was the best way to do that. but the real pressure on us in yahoo is from the far right members of his government, the ones who are still in it like bits that it's not rich, even though it's of our ben beer, had put out quite an interesting statement to say the least. his opinion now is not the same with these really premier because he's no longer a minister in these really governments and his party is no longer part of netanyahu's coalition. so you've members like smoke writs and the religious zine is a party and other people who are on the right wing of mentioned y'all who's on the crude political party who want to go back to war, who say that you've got an assurances for missing yahoo that he is going to go back to fighting after phase one, which is the only reason why they didn't leave the government and have it fall apart. but they've said that if the fighting doesn't resume, they themselves are going to make sure that the government sees its downfall. even though these really opposition has given us in yahoo,

some sort of safety. not saying that if the far right wants to leave your government, if the deal is gonna fall apart, the opposition would step in, give you that sort of padding to continue the deal. and then the country would go to elections, but nonetheless, the pressure on us and yahoo certainly mounting but when the pressure comes from these really public and the government itself. but he's usually quite dismissive and does what he wants instead. okay, honda, thank you for that reporting from amman law speak to model one bush auto who's elders, they're a senior political analyst joining us from jo. how summer won earlier on and how much official a was telling alger 0 that a b is released according to him, are intentionally a sabotaging the deal, and they are undermining that cease fire agreement. just the, if you look at the, the developments in the past hour and what's transpired, what do you make of this? and what do you think is going to happen next? oh, there are 2 possibilities. the more likely is that the,

the mediators step in and try to do something about it in order for the last exchange of the 1st phase of the ceasefire workshop. my guess is that the gap is not that huge on this very particular issue of violation. and i think if there is a good way of some sort that the last of this on the 6 exchanges happens, it's going to happen. the more likely scenario beyond that and perhaps even comes out the day is that um is that things continued to be complicated. and it's not just because there's a how much will binion here it really it, as far as i'm concerned doesn't matter what, how much or nothing. yeah, i will say what's important to what they've been doing because they speak as politicians or as a, you know, leaders for the public consumption. i think it's important that these rainy's not

just is really government because you'll guess from that of the although they are quite correct in describing the picture from simple plastic squared off from delivering it per se. but i think the overall atmosphere is red. the overall after sphere in the government and in parliament is in favor of the kind of positions that, that any out of the part in pricing that's quite that's, that's quite problematic. but just elaborate on that point. when you say that position, that's nothing, you know, and trump are embrace and what do you mean by that? and what is their position? in your opinion? try my opinion, just a problem in the united states, and how much is the opinion? the president tom, i'm pregnant, so not that hard finding us every day. now for the past week, they want to ask the glaze guys all there's, there's no opinion here. it's a fact. they say, no. trump has double done a 3 times and thought nothing. you know, just different than day. is there any part of it?

they're saying it every day, and they are justifying good at explaining it every day, and they are improving on it and to give us giving us different variations of it that they want to ethnically cleansed because all of its inhabitants in order for it to be a beach side property, they say it, the other thing that is, is also quite dangerous, which i think now expire opinion. my estimate is that the now on top of that has to have, i agree, just as i've been arguing now for many, many months. but this government is going to pass the law about an extra issues in the west bank. and then trump is gone. not a good sized outlaw endorsement accessions because you see is that it does not do it by law. then there is nothing to attempt to recognize just like they did with the garden highest, just like that it would be occupied east jerusalem. now they say is what pass a law on this and then the template for sure. in other words,

there is such races in among the majority of his writers today, that in fact like smart, which told us to be spell that question of 70 plus captives is the question of the future of the jewish people. that's what he said. it's a question of national security is right, as they see it, which has to be done on the ashes of satisfied on the i should have the senate people on the debris of gaza on the destructors that are happening the us bank. so we have a very clear is really and the american position, there is no confusion. and i think anyone who tries to argue that there is a confusion and it's complicated and there's misunderstanding. they are just trying to mislead because it has never been cleared or that have mass, once, se, so i, because i have to, to have that she thinks that such a destruction to the people in guys. but it's actually meant also a guess how most and the one i see as far as the does not want to cease fire. like

i know, i should say quite a 5 does not want to think about is government does not want a ceasefire in the sense of going to face to at, in the. and that's why quickly, i think this is a very interesting thing that these really media has been talking about that is worst for us to be attention to. is that not the thinking that they should be a transitional period between phase one and phase 2. meaning we don't move quickly towards face to where that is a clause by editing the war the thing yeah. would be proposing to them in there. there's some kind of transition between one and 2. even if in fact 2 is transitional, it are by its nature. but these are just want to prolong this thing. they don't want to fix good until the war once again, because they do not want an input or what does this all mean then for the faith of the cease fire right now as it stands in phase one,

which is meant to be heading in to face to negotiations, i think it's uh, by the amount that we as a, as a, as an, as an, as a media ok to underline someone, the key issues, some of the most important points about the ceasefire. and this is something that by didn't try to highlight and defend when he was president because you know, you can trust model. this is a part of the ceasefire agreement or tax. is that as long as negotiations are going on in phase 2, there will be no more, no more, no, the assumption of hostility. there will be no return to work. that's the importance of the agreement that the mediators laptop are. i've reached with how much time is right, and that's the importance of the fact that's how much remains good is india. and until this deal came about that you cannot simply say, okay, this is not working out. how much is not negotiating?

good faith. i'm going to go back to war. the agreement stipulates clearly that as long as how much negotiates as long as it's under groceries and the mediators are engaged. they should be noted as option affected when nothing. yeah, i went to washington, he wanted to get the at the mission. if you would agree like for on president on that i like but has done by did is that it wouldn't be able to resume the fight they ears if deems that how much is not negotiating. good faith, whatever that means. and that is the future of the ceasefire is once again in the hands of is read. how do you have to say it's what it has been all along at the end of the, by the administration and the beginning of the session. there was a bit of a momentum towards strengthening phase one, and now we act towards the end of it. phase 2 is far more strategic with far more implications for this is randy government and for the rest of the community in

terms of reconstructions. eventually i saw sort that i think nathaniel basically does not want to get involved in or beyond that to say we end the war wide in terms of optics and optics. i thought it was very important for these right. it is, a mass continues to wander around garza especially during both exchange times on a saturday showing off the gauge and showing off the treasury box should have all the cameras and the confidence and that's something that is where the government doesn't feel it can afford to watch again because it improves once and again that they have not exactly the 2 that have us and they were not exactly able to release the captives through military beach. is really media reporting right now. but one the nothing. yeah. who is holding a, a meeting with some in the security establishment, including the minister of defense,

israel cats who just about an hour or 2 ago said this, that i have instructed the military to prepare at the highest level of, for as it readiness in gaza. and to defense communities, he made that statement after the statement was put out by december grades about the delay of the, the release of the captives. well, i mean, i don't want to ask you to get into the realm of speculation here. uh but um, but what will you be looking out for um, what do you expect to happen as a result of this security meeting? anything at all? or, you know, it depends on how far this is, where the government now once to begin implementing let's, that's quoted for the hell of it. the vision of a solution to park as a, if the, if they think, as we heard them say, again and again that this is a historical port should it. but this is original thinking out of the box that this is the only way to be able to resolve this. think it is by anything that,

that assuming that people are on their homeland beginning with god. so right. if that is the case, there is one thing to conclude is that the is right in the government will continue to make life i'm livable in the gaza strip. not because there are thought just to hit that because they know what ever to bomb, not because they going to be deployed the military to various fox movies up by the time you know, so, so, so for that would make absolutely 0 minute 36 cents per minute there isn't, but they would need to with that could be what they could do. our best is close. again, the guys to bomb the high lot of the civil you have this bathroom. the other thing in order to do, to make the salting so unbearable that people start pushing through the southern border cross age to age. this is the idea. the idea is to force people to move to,

to believe because there's the water for the children. there is no medicine for the sick, and there's certainly nothing else in terms of strength that in terms of proof over the family is had and let alone schools and hospitals and, and everything else that and even potentially food then which the comp, basically it will not be level and there is only one password for that is for them to quickly doreen. let me just add to this that we are approaching in less than 2 weeks or around 2 weeks. and i'd have to summit an emergency out of somebody to go. and i think you have to know and his government are going to be playing in that last time of the next 2 weeks. and why? i think that's important because you asked about a bit of speculation. this add up, somebody is going to as a drum and then you know about where the out of world spends in terms of the plan. i think the clings guys are unintentional phase 2 of the negotiations. this summit

is key because some of the other countries are getting a bit for the or big push that on being human. the. ready by washington or therapy, i think they know that they are dealing with a walker. walker and they're like nothing else. and they know that that there's a new empower. but it's got the white house wants to basically push that out. but a question that is key to the eye, but most of them world and that is the question about us die. and i think that they are, wants to take a number of steps in order to be and that of somebody, because there is no way for the out of somebody to meet on the emergency. the conditions i've done to take an important corner store decision about where they stand on from clipping, you know, and the future thoughts. but i'm not on stand by for just a moment because i don't want to get your reaction on another comment that's come through. i'll just read it out. so in response to from us as announcements is really captives, family protests,

group known as bring them home. now has released this statement. and in the statement, it says they have urgently requested assistance from the mediating countries to help restore and implement the existing deal. and it continues to say that they stand what state is really government and encourage maintaining the conditions to ensure the successful continuation of the agreement. leading to the safe return of the captive, somebody won that statement has come through on behalf of some of the, the families and not group bring them home. now, i mean, speaking of the, the negotiators mediators what could be happening behind the scenes right now, as i think probably cut out, or would it be taking the lead in for the, to make sure that that agreement is respect to just seeing the end of the day, at least in the day, there's not just me deal with this. right. and i'm not talking about the washington here that has been sort of the elephant in the room and all of this thing. but that are specific, but also egypt have put the reputation at stake here. they have guaranteed

disagreement in one way or another. and that's why they've got the ford administer . if you remember just a couple of days ago issued a statement, quite storm statement or actually it was yesterday. i think these are the government do need to get to the got done program. you need to get to the program. we have a ceasefire and, and, and, and, and there's a deadline. when you have to enter faithfully into negotiating the 2nd phase and that was the 16th day, right? so i think these writers had been procrastinating. they've been trying to avoid, they've been trying to be of struck. they themselves support. and i think when we saw that, maybe at the laptop, uh, not the blue that stepped in and said, no, you can continue to do that. no, never, not allowed because we're not going to continue to meet the a if you don't negotiate in good faith. and if you don't getting the id much, so the let the spit at least. and then we're going to is really, is i've been doing since nothing else step foot in washington in particular. and since he came back and washington especially was to

a distinct indigenous instead of mass orlando. ready against the ceasefire against the palestinians, against the future, the court justice and the likes of the i was saying is that everything that is there a did the past 15 months have been incredibly wise. he actually said that today, just how wonderful, how incredible, how smart he has been even too stunned up to the, by the ministration to continue with the landlord and to continue basically with the genocide. that's all remember for the sake of what it meant. but it should, every day maybe i should do that but said whatever, i'm going to be that prime minister netanyahu is an indicted. what put them in the sought after by the international criminal court? florida. what the nice thing i'm getting about crimes against humanity. and that is the government in general is that then you know, at least the defense minister and the establishment are basically indicted for

german. sorry that the national court of justice. you cannot forget that because this is again, another question of just, you know, decide is into it. there's a question now we're, we are dealing with what terminal is supported by the watch open power. went to the click print guns. i don't want to go back to war, want or stuck the ceasefire. i don't want you to pick all but that was back once i next 3030 and legally and continue with the ethnic cleansing. this is a very, very dangerous develop. but instead of the implementing the ceasefire dot inflaming the center bunch to watch war and there's not much got a deal these res support. think the are face to and face 3 now it's risk absolutely. face 3. i think there's a way this the future because look, is that uh, what is, what is trump say tempest thing we can do reconstruction without the better speeds

. basically he said, so if at a signal stay it will be in or reconstruction. and phase 3 is all about for the construction ok, base to somebody ending the war and, and then be doing the you know, the find the exchange of saw. so for the more it's clear that it's just going to have to go from full of guys are right. it's nothing else doesn't want to do that. he does not want to withdrawal from the southern part of guys from the so called for the deputy recorded, or he wants to continue. they can control the guy's occupied guys, if you wouldn't, even if his military is not in the next room crossing meaning in the middle garza so there is no doubt that phase 2 today is in imminent danger of not happening. in fact, it's becoming less and less probable every day. and that's why i said, because there it is. i think we pick it up some innovative way of doing good, which is great in some kind of a transition period between phase one and phase 2. so as the not going to get gets

involved in phase 2 altogether and that's at the shortest development that were basically lead to escalation. we are in the midst of an estimate, typical speech fire. what is that continues to dictate the face of it? to the dislike of the mediators to the liking of washington, apparently. and that's where you create the circumstances for major escalation and his again, on the line that need to have the beacon to do it is going to be key to kind of 5. where does this the region and it's describe it, can't the world stand on the question of ethnic cleansing a more crimes in palestine model on just the final thought for me. and we just have a few minutes remaining because you're, you are bringing up this, this area of meeting. so look ahead to us. i mean, do you expect a, a sort of something concrete to come out of the, the air meeting when it comes to the question of palestine this time around you

know, you and i probably, and i mean, not as uh, over the past 16 years roll our eyes, i certainly roll my eyes. i mean, i'm not reporting so i can do that. i know that typically speaking, each and every time and how to summit kept together because, you know, we've kind of know the history of it with the exception of only a couple of summits. generally speaking, did not really come up with much of a beach for half a day, basically. and they don't really come up with anything of, of importance this time around this emergency. somebody called for by dial. it comes in at the very, very subset of time before by this time for the region, but also for the actual egypt, jordan, or whatever. that's a big push that on by president them. not just as an individual that has the leader of the world superpower, but how huge is garbage with. jordan and egypt is pushing him around to take in hundreds of thousands. all of them together,

perhaps to 1000000 better standing and see that's what he's saying. black and white . egypt cannot afford to take i many opinions right now that can jordan. everyone understands one of those things. one or 2 words of at least not politics, but this would be, i've already destabilizing move and wouldn't now say something like this should be up at a signal state of saudi arabia. we know this is not just the humiliation. this is the red, the cooling of the lives of so i will go to you by the agent. leave me. she is the united states part of the process all she got on and human the i think and really, truly out of government. i believe there's an edge of the they're going to come together and just issue statements without, with the i thought a disaster, but just for the 1st time, but for themselves as leaders of the idol. but most of the world. on the other hand, if they take a very, very concrete measure from, for example, openings on boarding with egypt and lifting

a in what there is an electric door not allowing very construction to begin. what are the pleasure of their mouth? then that would be the kind of answer to the invitation by washington to love you. if they take us found that say nothing. now what is an indicted war criminal by the prosecutor of the national criminal court? we would not, and no one would, should at or the but most of them was and the young engage this for work. what are they all that will be? i did distinct position taken by the out of leaders. we want to see what they come up with. might want to come up with who is all the statements and model. and i know i said a final thought for me to, but i just got to ask you this as a, as a final thought this time because we are going to have to move on. but when you hear donald trump really doubling down on this issue of owning garza, according to him, the us is going to own garza. how seriously do you take this?

you know, this is like uh, the 64000000000 dollar question. right? i think in as far as his seriousness, this is very serious. i said that because i don't think this has done for the equipment these, this has not gone through the decision making process. this has not gone through with the national security council at the white house or not for the state department or, or i knew such as you said, this is handbook and the number of people that decides that you know what, this is a great idea. let me do it, it's going to make these very, just very happy that's going to make his evangelical, that is my big christian scientist. very happy and they are very strong and they are many of them. i mean, i need to decide if this is a good way as well. and i've been has a few time slots to zone with ideas in order to avoid the thing that is happening. which means, which is the book, the phase 2 of the deceased by a very much so it's been over and he's just trying his best without this necessarily become make anything that didn't materialize.