the, the challenges with the, [000:00:00;00] the pedal and tell them okay, this is then use our line from coming up in the next 60 minutes. i think they have to make peace. that people are being killed, and i think they have to make peace. after lindsay phone calls us president on the trump and rushes lead of let them in person agreed to begin negotiations to end the war. and you crying, trying to say the fragile cx,

5 mazda delegation runs and car at the talks with media is white for palestinians, and gaza. and the release of this ready captives, a top of the agenda. the key is presidents region type one hits to buckets done for a 2 day visits to boost trade and military ties. plus on tony chang on the timing on my board with the government's trying to shut down one of the biggest scam sensors in the world. and on part a small with a sports lever pull dropped points in the primarily titled race, they were helped to withdraw by advertising and their dramatic darby that included 4 goals. and for a red car, the, it's an hour and a half phone cool. back could up in 3 years of us policy on the ukraine for president donald trump in russia's lead of letting me a person have has their 1st official conversation since trump returned to the white

house. and i've agreed to begin negotiations to end the conflict. trump also hinted at a possible meeting with person in saudi arabia in the near future. ellen fisher reports from washington, dc, almost exactly 3 years since the board and ukraine started. donald trump believes he can bring it to an end, pushing both sides to start piece talk. i think they have to make peace, that people have been killed and i think they have to make peace. i said that was not a good way to go into and i think they have to make peace. that's what i'd say to campaign see he could negotiate a piece, steel drum, spoke to letting me put in for 90 minutes. and with this thing, you told social media, we both agreed we want to stop the millions of deaths taking place in the war with russia. ukraine president puts in even use my very strong campaign, multiple of common sense. we both believe very strongly. we agreed to work together very closely, including visiting each other's nations. we've also agreed to have

a respective teams, stock negotiations, immediately. a vice president, judy vance, a new secretary of state, marco ruby will just lead the us to be joined by the c. i, a director and the national security advisor, they'll meet you, clean president, let them use the lensky at the munich security conference on friday. during the election campaign, donald trump said he would end the war in ukraine as soon as he was elected before he even 2 coffers. but there was never any detail on how the weekend to give an interview saying that at some point you clean me become russian. well, presidents the landscape confirmed to you spoken to donald trump, give little insight into what may happen next. but you're creating an observer, see their concern to trump is being played by putting your most speaking as above the facts of the russian of russian. the a speaking to as any substrate complex somewhere that they are going to queue on the the presence of landscape. so if you would consider or sloping tetra tree, giving up your cream line for games they made and russia,

and he's been cleared in the past. and the piece still will be between russia and ukraine. not russia and america. i was so sure i'll just go to washington. well, it's here from ukrainian president reload him. is lensky who says that he's held what he calls very substantive talks with washington, the ends of war and new crime. he prizes what he described as terms of genuine interest in working towards pace. it is useful which the most time i met again blog . i had a conversation with president trump a good and detailed discussion. i am grateful to the president for his genuine interest in our share at opportunities, and how we can work together to bring real peace closer to to it was a long conversation. we discussed many aspects of diplomatic, military, economic and keepers down the drum and president trump informed me of what putting had told him because we believed in america strength is sufficient to pressure russia and putting in to piece together with us together with all our partners.

lemme and con joins us now from popular opposite in easton, ukraine. and 1st of all, can you just give us a more reaction from keith we saw and heard the from this a landscaping, particularly diplomatic. but i mentioned seriously concerned about these statements from donald trump. of that thing, you write those all very diplomatic words from president as zalinski. he is keen to know really rocks a boat at this stage. remember, negotiation still have to take place, but let's diplomatic words all coming out from that. you currently media from people who are commenting about this. one of the concerns is the fact that donald trump and vladimir putin had the conversation 1st. now that might sound a little bit silly, but it's in diplomatic negotiations. whoever has the upper hand is usually the 1st person that is going to speak to each other. so this is a concern you have

a concern is the type of language that donald trump is using for him. but he said outright that actually sorry to interrupt you there and we're on. we're now going to cross to brussels. we're the nice secretary general knock root is speaking. let's listen an extra day. and here i think there is a clear expectation from the sides of the us, but also clear commitments yesterday that this alliance is here to stay for the generations to come and to be able discuss today. this is vince industrial base. how to produce more. we are not producing enough, and this is collective problem we have from the us up to and including turkey and including the whole fuel being julian, nor of a new. okay. we have fantastic defense industries, but we are not producing enough via producing and 3 months that i'm and they should know, i would say a rush i was producing in 3 months and i'm an issue about the whole c alliance is producing a year. and this is simply not

a sustainable we have 2 or hang up or the defense industry production. so these issues will be on the table today in the minister of defense minutes and meeting. and then afterwards, also in the launch, you'll have to submit a settlement of, of ukraine, rarely discussed to the relations between nato and the dual credit. so thank you very much. may be a few questions. i can only do one question, which i guess the secretary hectic rhetoric that any car to name just just the way on. as i said this extra extra but also what later came out of washington. clearly were big announcements and at the same time, this is how in a line to be a government, we are an alliance of democracies. we need to be baited at this. and also i see a clear confusion as i said that we one piece that the piece has to be enjoying that. we have to make sure that you create this in the best possible position and for the europeans to step up in defense spending and collectively to step up the defense industrial production. so here that is

a vehicle for sure. just to clear things of what is this alliance of this alliance is assembly asp, texas. yes, as today. and so many of us it is there for generations to come. we are, they have to make sure that we have the best possible, the terms in place to fight of any has virtually no and in the future. but convinced that we have to gets to a good deal in ukraine. we have to ramp up defense spending. we have to ramp up defense industrial production. these are clear task we collect. so if we have, we will debate then we might not always agree immediately. but as old as indians, we come to competition with that to have a friend who with president with that with

that this looks to me like the beginning of the pin try what we have seen yesterday was the statements coming out of washington including and you forgot to mention deaf his room phone cove as president savanski, so we will see how this progresses from now own a step by step. of course, this crucial, we talk about ukraine that you play is close to your full and everything happening about your print. it clearly has if, if that impression that it was a successful phone call, the old one piece in ukraine. obviously we have to make sure that you create this in the best possible positions is crucial. that's when a piece deal is trucks that that piece deal is enjoying that putting knows that this is the end, that he can never again try to capture a piece of ukraine. so that has to be part of the key calculations. and no doubt that is also on the minds of president trump in the american team. and so today in the coming days and the coming week, obviously we will close the co ordinates between allies, final question,

and then we will meet again at the post ministry or pest confidence. so yes, the best possible position for your grade would be even stronger and better it's, it's a, a things like the return of working, but it's the territory and native membership would still be on the table. but i've said before i, i believe we have to make sure that we concentrate to the big issues. and the one big issue number one is to make sure and to start uh that ukraine is in a position that puts in. no, she has to come to the table. a dish for him is crucial to come to a deal on ukraine. so ukraine has to be in a strong position. and again, as i said before, it is crucial that when a deal is struck uh that the deal will not unwrap what we have seen in 2014. what happened placements. uh we thought that deal was there to stay additions uh boots and simply continued trying to grab pieces of, of ukraine. and then on the 2022, he started the full on slots late february 2022. we can never,

ever have data again. so i'm absolutely puppies. i'm pro b storks. absolutely. um. but at the same time you have to make sure that fuck comes out of dose. dose is there to stay and that you create, then a safe. thank you so much. we'll meet again later today. but that was a nice, i secretary general, a mock route speaking there at the blogs defense minister meeting in brussels, very diplomatically. he said that they, they want to pace. they needed to be in, during between russia and ukraine and all your p and nations. they just stay pump defense spending. they also want to say a good deal of for you crying that is a central vote for more or less. we're going to go to back to m run khan, who is an eastern ukraine. and i know that you were listening and the a to to that and we're on. can you just give us a sense of where you kinds ambitions for joining nice. so after what we've heard from, from donald trump ended schools with letting me a person,

it will not read to you just had that with gate, just gave us a mazda klaus and how not to commit to anything. and that's really what you crate and things ukraine knows, that joining data right now was there at will with russia is a known star test. so the fact that the u. s. defense ext repeat to exit said that the to you crate is that later vicious emissions off on realistic actually came from somewhere out of nowhere because you create knows the h no in a position to push for they type membership right now. and that's actually reflected by soldiers that we've been speaking through by soldiers on the telegram channel that they have putting out a statement. they say, of course, we shouldn't be joining dates as jo cools, nato doesn't want us to join because they did that have to go to well with russia. and that is the overarching theme if the war is over. and there is peace and

a realistic and enduring piece that perhaps nato membership is back on the table. but right now the price is absolutely clear, it lowes nato emissions or not the prior. so if you've been to the front line, uh, thousands of you probably need, and russian, russian soldiers had been killed of almost 3 years of fighting on foot. the trump to now suggest that you kinds goals are unrealistic. can you just give us a sense of, of what the reaction has been, what the, what the soldiers that you'd been able to speak to would be a reaction is to donald trump, basically in some respects, handling what if a person wants to person to try and get this for to come to a close to well, there's a few things going on here. a lot of ukrainians, but you speak to it as much as civilian is a military. people always tell you that they do feel that they are like they do think that european and their american partners, but they do feel that they are fighting this very much on the r. yes. they are getting rough ends and, and they all getting

a but the actual points are on the ground. they say is something that they have to do. so this is one thing. so they do feel that what donald trump is going to do. and you remember, he said he's going to end the war it within a 100 days of him taking office. they worried about what that cost will be, because russia has been very, very clear. russia has said publicly that it was intense sanctions relief and to hang onto territory. now, with all of the desktop taking place with all of the, the destruction is taking place across ukraine to then send over the territory to pigeon. as a result of american prussia is something that is a very emotional subject at a very, very strong subjects for ukrainians. but now that is a, you know, the aspect to all of this. remember donor trump very famously trans actual pra president, we'll get into this in just a moment. he wants to do a deal with ukraine over red minerals, right? has been rules,

a very crucial part and will be very crucial part of the economy of ukraine, the arrival of china, if they are able to get them out the ground on, on to the markets. and this is a know that aspect of the piece that goes jason's. let's take a closer look. this use mine's adult, the landscape of ukraine's east, but the mining sector could be powering up and going into production again. the ukraine sits on the 12 trillion us dollars with the breast minerals needed to power technology, including lithium and titanium. it could be arrival to china, the world's biggest current supply. and that's interesting to the us, which is wary of china, is rise globally. the famously transactional us present. donald trump says he is found the deal he wants to make with ukraine to help and the wall. so we're looking to do

a deal with your brain with giving them weapons and aid in return. so read the materials and ukrainian presents without them is lensky is open to the idea of russia. it's pot says the alms for minerals deal as some have deb, this is a sign of the us slowing down the simple for ukraine. the biggest commercially viable array of mineral deposits. i'll also in the territories, russia hasn't had ext away the west of the will rages. they include the hands that, that brings you together. they all with 6 trillion dollars or 53 percent of ukraine's red asset mineral deposits. but with that much money involved ukraine, these click no development resources until the full and to the war and complete russian withdrawal. ukraine, a strategic resources only after the war. and uh, we can uh do it only when uh, the territory of

u grant will be de occupied when it will be liberated because manual such resources are right now are located in the territories occupied by russia. but donald trump has said, maybe ukraine will be russian, maybe not a statement that is confused many here and but even if the war ends tomorrow, ukraine has to be safe. an open said business. one of the many challenges to that other line minds that russia has thrown across the east, it's slo dangerous. what? according to the mining organizations, one year of laying down and burns takes 10 years to remove. that's so t, yes, so far. i know the big challenge will be the full in soldiers and dead civilians in the face of those sacrifices giving up territory to moscow is an emotional issue. but that's exactly what russia once, according to that public statements, at least. so getting peace through red minerals is going to be

a very difficult challenge. and we're on con outages there, then that's the region. but from all of this, we joined now by pencils. so good how, who is an independent of russian defense unless he joins us from moscow. thanks very much for being with us. i once again pedo. obviously we've heard a lot from the us from europeans, from ukraine. but how is will this being viewed with inside russia, the world say with some hope that there is going to be negotiations, that's a sure thing. there's going to be most likely i saw much between the present them sure fortune and present them. and the best part they should call you bring peace. no, of course negotiations don't bring peace part themselves. back in the drives award, there was fighting and talking almost all the entirety of the war. but marcia, there is this. uh, i believe you have to make

a deal with the americans and the rush ukrainians. the ruby is. everyone's going to flow in july. so you have to deal with the big guys that make so so rushes through there. do dealing with the big guy right. i mean, this, russia, we don't want to start negotiations at this point in the world, almost 3 years in, are they going to come willingly to the table? are they going to basically be, have, have to be forced to pushed to, to sitting down and beginning towards as well? no, of course richard wants to go to, to the table. that's loc president, would you have said, but that you are going to do it at the beginning of the table, make negotiations and ask you a cheating as you are a little disagreement, 2 different things. and right now, of course, russia has its own formula for base, it was declared by culture that direction position. it's miles away from what you, brittany, is, are thinking about what the american new administration thinks that no one really

most likely knows far. sure. but the so russian has, are you ready to talk? but really do talk to americans. not so queer. was rush ready to talk to the premiums directly the present. the government didn't ukraine, of it's talking about not being identified as russia read the for a deal, then make ready for actual serious compromises on it's a social position that's a general go back to have to be seen during the negotiations during the most likely comic summit from from coach, well, well, what are the compromises that russia might be willing to make it? and what red lines won't, won't, it won't across to well basically advise, we want the americans want to some kind of an agreement, john, the based on state, this quote right now. but some adjustments to the front line becoming

a new kind of division. why the liner control russia says that's not really good enough if it says that so, so not going to work. so the both sides, if they agree, i mean ukrainians and russians and they don't want this situation as it is the freeze for the car to find it. the formula where both sides really begin to give a take a we'll have to see russia right now. and officially say we need to achieve our goals, we need to make your brain forever kind of, i'm not a threat to rush, which means that you're creating will be well because you create a front of the country to russia and never a member of nato. and even thomas cannot assure that after he leaves off as a new american best ration law change their position. okay, thank you so much. have a, we'll have to leave it there. but as always, fascinating to get your insights, pebble, falcon, how about for us in russia?

the, the fragile, the cease fire and gaza is still holding united nations humanitarian officials say 8 in during the strip has increased since the deal between as well. and the miles took effect last month. but the need remains unless palestinians lack shelter, won't close food and clean water. the conditions of being made worse by the cold weather. i'm off as accused as well of blocking the entry of critically needed supplies, including mobile homes and heavy equipment. to clear the rubble, we're going to speak now to tower composing, who's in the profit and southern gaza and check. we've seen trucks coming in through that crossing, but do we have any idea about exactly what is in those trucks at this point in time? is it the i did that many palestinians the uh,

demanding and asking for of the well tom human it terminate trucks continue to stream into guys as since the early hours of this morning from the main to even straight points are off on kind of a sudden crossings that what carrying different sorts of food items like caps, mattresses, and have hopes of capacity to talk swift carrying make shift terms for palestinians who are, have been test will have been completely displaced alongside with a number of acute trucks that may fit your needs since the hours of this morning to cause a city, but basically what has been high in the required is the interest rates of a more bio houses alongside we've got numbers of make shift tens. and we understand clearly that the entry of more about houses would help publish them. you have to be provided with immediate show to reducing the significant pressure on all the crowded spaces and to prevent the humanitarian deterioration of these harsh with

the conditions. and possibly they could be also combusted into field hospitals in order to provide more health care extras to victims, but to no, no. so what's all the heavy machinery has allowed to be it to inside because of the trips since the hours of this morning. and we have completely is seeing that this has been a very highly mississippi's for palestinians to remove the depth for use of reopen rose to restore a civil infrastructure. and we all, we completely believe that the ongoing, the next day hours will to be see a significant developments in the following the numbers of h folks that had insight because of strep yesterday, because of the government, the office has confirmed tom that 808 to have seemed to garza over the course of the past 24 hours, which could signal a key development that the taking place behind the scenes between regional miss yates isn't conflicting policies. which will have the implication on the coast of

the release of the is. but it captives on started to 8, if this developmental b, y v max and agree to point between regional mit yates's. most of these round, terry cetera, is coming around very quickly. the deadline for the captives to be handed out of the by laws. how worried are people there? are they doing anything to prepare of? if potentially the intimacies find collapses, where people are closely monitoring all sorts of political developments. the a see that the latest attention that we use will and how much, how to a good, huge wave of a skepticism and frustration among many palestinians who have been b a ring. the problems of the ongoing conflict at many of them believe that they have been trapped between the demands of the 2 of debates, conflicting policies, and they have been calling for the escalation and to give that chance for further

political solutions to take place under the supervision of regional messages, but they believe that once at the office of a truck cf 2, they have been met. it has been depressed, positive signs about different teams, shows a solution that has been a completely seen by regional images. they are waiting for the entry of heavy machinery and the more about houses that are lined up on the edge of suicide. where they kind of see how it requires how you're required to many terms in the cities have been allowed to access because there is going to be the flexibility that will be shown by how much. and they believe that this the release of that is where they kept as might take place. some is scheduled time to eric. thank you so much. as always, we will be keeping a close eye on how things play out in the coming guys, teracon bows room for us, and rough as well. here's where things stand on this, these 5 deal. israel has risen to resume the war on gallons of with renewed

intensity while as military has cooled up reserves and reinforced positions in the strip mos delegation is in car at the tools as media is rice, again, it's time to try and save the deal. us secretary of state's micro rubio estate to travel to israel, saudi arabia and the united arab emirates staffing on friday. folks will focus on securing the release of all the remaining captives and kanza and advancing to phase 2 of the cx 5 that the deal has been designed in 36 week sizes we currently half way through the 1st phase. and in those 3 weeks, 21 captives have been released by him. us out of a total of $33.00 in exchange for hundreds of palestinian prisoners from on. this were joined by somebody arianne who is a professor of public affairs and director of the center for his loan and global affairs at stan bulls. i'm university. he joins us from stand bowl. thank you very much for being with us here. semi festival, where do you see this very, very fragile ceased by going obviously

a lot of work is still happening behind the scenes. do you think it, there is a good chance that it will remain in place beyond saturday. as i do, i mean it's been a fridge on ceasefire, but indeed it has been holding so far. i believe tom does not want that is on the war. i believe this is also backed off from the latest threat as to how may i ask for that and that they would not hand over the captives this week because of the hold off of the different aids and equipment to be present to remove it as well. as sorry to interrupt you said they were gonna have to go to a live event now. uh, the us defense secretary pete hicks. this is speaking in brussels, literally listening as a us troop alongside a lot of brave nato troops. that was a different kind of mission for nato. far for long after america was attacked, this, the warrant, ukrainian, or russian by russia, has been

a factory reset for nato. a realization that this alliance need to be needs to be robust and strong and real. and that's, that's why president trump has called for increase defense spending across the board for nato, for european countries to recognize this is an urgent real threat to the continent . this aggression needs to be a wake up call. americans are an active part of this alliance as we have been and will continue to. but when it comes to defense spending, even 2 percent of g d p is not enough. $3.00 and $4.00 and ultimately as president, trump is said, 5 percent of defense. many is critical. a realization that there is a russian war machine that is sought to take more and more land and ukraine in standing up against that is an important european and responsibility. and of course, united states has been there for a long time as well. my role as a representative united states is to speak realistically about the course of that conflict. and i think you saw from president trump yesterday,

who himself is the best negotiator on the planet, bringing 2 sides together to find a negotiated piece, which is ultimately what everyone wants. so i look forward to the ministerial today with our nato allies, to have honest conversations about where we are, but to bring peace on the continent, ensure that europe steps forward and the leadership in leadership as far as security guarantees. and then america is right alongside our allies in nato to ensure we remain strong and it, this conflict comes to an end. i'll, i'll take one question. yes ma'am. well, that's your language. not mine, certainly not a betrayal. but as i said to our allies yesterday, we recognize the incredible commitment that has been made over many years and no