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hello that on james be's us president donald trump is ruffled many feathers since he announced his proposal to take hope it goes up according to him, more than 2000000 promised. an interest would lead to somewhere nice and safe, like jordan or egypt, while he bills riviera on the mediterranean and casa. this ideas angered the international community and the arab world has downright rejected. but what can they suggest instead, a meeting on friday of golf nations and re add joined by egypt and jordan ended with no concrete towns of proposals. they'll be meeting in colorado in the coming weeks. we'll talk more about this in today's show. but 1st, this report from dmitri the into the u. s. will own acts and the palestinians should leave. donald trump revealed his proposal for gaza early in february, and the main person supporting it was in the room with him. israel's prime minister to us, we'll take over the guys script and we will do

a job with the 2 without it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous, unexploded bombs and other weapons on the side, the level of the side. and i don't want to be cute, i don't want to be a wise guy, but the riviera of the middle east. this could be something that could be so bad. it could be so magnificent. the suggestion sparked international outrage as trump states with himself. it would mean more than $2000000.00 palestinians having to move out of guns or permanently and reset to elsewhere. they must be allowed. they must be allowed to rebuild and we should be with them in not rebuild all the way to a 2 state solution. and guess what, they're doing god, what happens in gaza was a genocide. honestly, i don't think united states who participated in everything is the country that should take care of gaza is vital to stay through to the bed. the bulk of international law. this is essential to avoid any form of ethnic cleansing. trump

reiterated his idea of forcibly displacing palestinians during a meeting with jordan's king abdullah was not where i want them to live. it's going to be where we ultimately choose as a group. and i believe will have a parcel of land in jordan, i believe we'll have a parcel of land in egypt. we may have someplace else. but i think when we finish or talk to a place where they live very happily and very safely, that was rejected by jordan and egypt along with other arab states in the sheriff. and because, um, i think that if the president trump continues with this method of pressuring garza, the error of world instructions, does your danny and the saudis, and all of these influential powers in the region. i think that instead of resolving the policy in an issue with just solution based on 2 states, he will leave the middle east into a new cycle of intense conflict between the airbags in his room and as goals

nations as well as egypt and jordan gathered behind closed doors in regard to discuss gauze on friday, trump dialed back on his plan and an interview with fox news radio, saying he only recommends it and wouldn't impose that. the arab league is expected to respond at an extraordinary meeting in cairo, scheduled for next month to meet them evident, go out to 0 for inside story. the . let's bring you know, a pedal of guests to discuss all of this today in washington dc with joined by dani, odessa, she's executive director of the gulf international forum. electra georgetown university in london you'll see medical book as senior consulting fellow, a chest of the house. and in the mound, jordan diode kotob is a publishing in june list and also of the state of palestine. now thank you all 3 of you for joining us. don yet let me start with you on this summit that took place

in rehab and he lost it a few hours who attended and what was the a. so the summit consisted of the 6 golf corporation council countries and egypt and jordan, and it, it was an unofficial meeting actually, as they stated. but clearly it is to address uh, the elephant in the room, which is a trump uh stated uh plan uh uh, displacing the palestinians impreza and of course uh its been said. ringback that the discussion was looking at a plan that will be uh, will be proposed by cairo. um, by egypt and, and, and in coming up with an alternative plan to trump stated plan.

um, and that's where they're at, at this point. okay. towed um and i was last week at this time in munich for the munich security conference when this was 1st announced this meeting and it seems the guest list lots of different rooms who was going to attend. and it changed several times. the 1st time i heard about it was just going to be saudi arabia got taught jordan, egypt, and then it expanded. and then at one point i was told the policy, you know, thought they were going to be that they want is not significant. when i think one of the problems we have is that 2 parts, one is a who's going to be for the reconstruction. and they were talking about different uh, phases of reconstruction. and 2nd, b who's going to govern guys and what and the palestinians would like to see is some kind of an agreement between the piano and all my law and how much so that the, that the also accords is respected, which is it does on the west bank are a single unit and it should be governed by, in a single way. that is, i think,

is the reason why they kept it by the students away so that they can come up with some kind of a as a resolution, maybe a temporary, arable palestinian and governors of guys. i'm deal. there is a national unity among private students between the yellow and how much i think that's why they, i think for us they probably oppose the have dio arriving without having a national unity government under way. you'll see all we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here. because there's still a very fragile c spa, i'm phase $142.00 days long, is coming to an end. and we don't even know there's going to be a face to do a yes and, and we knew all along the, this was and he's still very footage i a cease fire. there is no thoughts whatsoever between the sides of what to be. so he's creating some momentum between the side because that the house of disagreements which was agreed has been

implemented. so file we've the, with the end of the us just withholding of many of palestinians to the place of origin. so we've seen the guys that that may be so the 1st thing the person is the money to be made. so some things works. but at the same time, we see that both sides naturally, after these kind of flows of suspicious of one another. and they also have only 2 little motives beyond the beyond ending the war. now what i think face to is the, is the most difficult one, because both sides of going to lose the main button in the chip. so how much the point of view the hostage just told me is that point of view if it degrees today and the full and we know the bushes we've seen, these are the government not to which a the 2nd phase. and we know that a flip, neil has to choose between assess file and moving away from this will end of the correlation and stay in your file. it probably would choose to stay info,

don you. if i come back to the re add summit, i'm not this is guess well, because there was no statement from the stomach, so we really don't know what happened when those need is match. but no statement. what does that mean to you? what does that say to you? does that mean? there was no agreement at summit? or does it perhaps mean that these leaders thought it wasn't a very good idea to put out a statement at this time? they wanted to stay below the raid. all they didn't do want to do anything that would further attract a trump's attention. i think the most important component, i think, from some of the leaders in the airport on like saudi arabia is to have consensus building and a collective response to any major issue affecting the air region. and this is one of them. and so i think they're gonna wait and defer to the march 4th meeting, the air bleeding, meeting the extraordinary summit,

and decide and, and decide to release a collective official statement there. and there has been discussions with the addictions about their proposal for or addressing account a proposal to try and try one they were saying to find areas and establish safe areas for the people. and because a to live until they remove the rubble and rebuild and have a conference to engage different stakeholders in the rebuilding process. so i mean there has been leaks of discussions of the discussion that happened there, but nothing has been officially says stowed. i mean, there are questions here, not just about the policy, and i want to talk about that in the moment. but there are also questions about how you deal with trump. he is the most unusual leader to deal with. if we look at what

happens on top of the eleven's joint jordan's king, abdullah went to the oval office, looked very uncomfortable, but he met him a flight attendant. he bought new proposals, offering to provide medical treatment to 2000 palestinian children. and what he didn't do is confront the president in public, which is very different for watch in a different spear present zalinski is doing, is that the is that the way to deal with them when i think the game understands that he's in a very difficult position because of the problem, i think the us is an ally about jordan and egypt and his right of course. and so they don't want to upset him. and especially in the public domain. in fact, the people are saying that the king was ambushed by the press coming in because they had agreed that there will be no press conference. so he was in a very difficult position, but yes, he did survive that and he did keep them both his own people there and their desire

for a sovereignty of jordan and those same time without any during, during, and president trump. so i think probably that would be the more safe position is not to angle publicly come and work out the deals behind the scenes. and maybe that's why the summit in riyadh did not issue a statement. and he said, the 2nd id you add, it basically wants to keep trump out of the public domain because he only bends and lives in the other domain. but look at things out with mike who we are with that the advisor on the national security and other people because i think that might be a better way. and i think trump is already saying, you know, i'll accept whatever they want to accept. things like that, so i think they're trying to do that. i think they have countries, one the keeps the alliance with the us is so the way the of course also wants to keep it's a good relations of. they have been extremely uh, friendly with this company. ministration and yeah,

during the questionnaire and so on. and so i think everybody wants to jump to be happy in a, in the public domain, but also work out things behind the scenes with them in your seat. trump says so much give so many interviews and he's was pointing out the latest thing. he said, one of the latest things he said to fox news and a phone interview seems to be a softening of his position on this. he said he would recommend his goss expulsion plan, but i am not forcing it well his words, you'll see. but i think the significant thing here is this is an idea that was on thinkable before a pop from some of the very extreme right in israel. but now there are quite a few people in his riley support this plan all but not the same department of if we, we knew that piece unpredictable. and we said before is, you know, interview ration, but it brings down, but it's the ability to accomplish see, and you live and i think you as a, as a bully in the,

in the international. let me know. we see it's a new claim that we saved. we've respond this time and i think for the voice, you need to be a selective. we've eh, i'm not so sure that the slot to the time would work. we've, we've, we started, i think, what's the lens can do, whether it's behind the scenes, owing, probably, but standing up, this is unacceptable to see the very fact that it smelling the agenda that the president of the united states want to commit to will try and expand falsely to 2500000 people and this is like almost an equity for thing on 2 state solution. and the other legitimate solution is something that needs to be able to check that he goes even for a went even further than the item is a smart thing. it's not that it makes it any back to boost talking about what about forcing out of guys a 1000000. tom said a loading told me all of the been thing i live here, but look for them and, and,

and, and tell me and then play. so i think in the sense we need also, and that's where the importance of the sun. we think that so many than even cable is still a moving of the agenda. the only positive single. what, what does that to you has best to focus all lines and know that there is such unacceptable. unsettling. i'll stand on that too. so we need to think, okay, but about the constructive head for a as kind of a feel which would lead eventually to a 2 state solution. don, you, when we hear these words about several times now i'm from trump, in the oval office. gaza is how whole absolutely destroyed it's a demolition site. no one seems to confront him with why and who did this because this was mine, made destruction and the collective punishment of everyone in gaza. when we look at the plans ahead, i know the countries of they are a will the trying to come up with a plan but, but really is israel that should be paying, isn't it?

pay reparations and damage is to the families. those civilians that have been killed in guns. i think it's really important to go back and just address trump because i know this is a factor that everyone has discuss. i'm since i'm based here in washington dc. so one, uh, i don't, i think you know, people that say you should take trumps seriously, but not literally when he's speaking. and i would have to say that there are different theories and perspectives applied. trump has said what he said. one is he wants to change where and that where the discussion is going and the conversation. so the air of states were saying that they wanted a palestinian state and he, it, and he's definitely not amenable to that idea. and so he wants to change the conversation not to be about having a palestinian state. and 2nd,

they have attached any reconstruction or rebuilding to that palestinian state. and he wants to change that conversation to there have been some that said that he's trying to placate the, the right wing a players and nothing yahoos cabinet who do not want to go to the 2nd phase. and he wants to move it forward to the 2nd phase. so that's, you know, could be just an idea that a, a theory possible theory of why chop is doing what he's doing. but i think that is important to note that he really wanted to move, change the conversation, and engage with all of the parties about as, as that and, and make it into something that he thinks that his is really allies are going to agree to those. we don't know much about the next step. we know there's a summit on the 4th of march of all the arab countries. and we know there is an

egyptian class that is not being published, but we do know the jump. sion prime minister was stuff a bully. on wednesday the news conference claimed that his country could rebuild garza and he said in 3 is truly 3. is an acceptable timeline to do this. and yet that was a recent report. but the, you and the world bank, i'm the you which said you don't get basic services running in 3 years. it would take 10 years. do you think that it's a toll realistic? this timeline? egypt is floating. i think if the guide is there anything that you give? sions have a free ability to work in gaza? yes. i think 3 years it'd be enough. it's not a big area. i mean, i just imagine if the gibson army is employed to take out all the yeah. argumentative this, they give sion now and you know, machines are allowed to clean up the areas and if you're allowed to bring in the

prefabricated housing, yes, you can do many things and in a short period. but the problem i think that we have to deal with, and i think they have to deal with is whole going guys. i think that's the front in the room. more than trump. i think the home is how to deal in a way that, hey, you cannot run guys that by how mouse but you cannot button got that without how much you have to find some kind of a clue. agreement which i'm asked, except some type of about assuming or error and governing authority in gaza without you know, messing up their ability to govern. and at the same time, i think how much wants to make sure that this is like what it, what does that sort of regular ones? it's a part of the roadmap to about a city and state. remember, guys on the west bank are seeing the unit as far as the also cords are concerned. the us the accords were signed at the white house under bill clinton. but so it's

an american sponsor of the, of the chords that has to be, we know, revisited. and the just keep doing guys, i know, especially imagine if guys on the west bank the borders are open. so people come doesn't, can come and live in the west bank until they've got this reopened. nobody thinks of that. they only think of god has gone to egypt or george. what about that have gone to the west bank. what about the guy sounds going to in they go in these rest? so i think these rallies um, have to deal with the right of out assume is to move the rent. and i think that could result some of the problems. but yes, it's not going to be easy to rebuild and reconstruct without an agreement both on who is going to construct and who is going to govern government. you'll see on that, i mean the egypt sion plan seems to suggest from everything i read and people have spoken to, they'll be some source of committee of technocrats and community leaders is not going to be acceptable to israel because it is not acceptable to nothing. yahoo,

we pretty much gonna assume it wouldn't be acceptable to trump, or i think it should be because at the end of the day, so ensure the government eh, godsa. and this would be part of a bigger process in which eventually the west bank and gaza above the one government bought the eventually a and managers as, as an independent palestinian state. and i think though it is absolutely like real estate and we have a suit capture in the, in the conversation over me before the world before the 7 or for the 6 year when people have done that collapse all together. and we need to change this secuity by a dime into something which is culpability in which we understand that this division between god's and the west bank is on hand. see, i'm actually one of the reason that led to these, to this, that these are still the one that everyone needs to have secure, with both insights. and for this thing is i do security full lives. and one also

gives you the 2 photo and the ideal sticks. look at the they've gone from and it's a deep sleep. create the space which remove some of the politics out to face the new most city that we have seen over the last 7 months. and obviously be before that into a more constructive approach, just like to we've been his guys, but also remains the relations between between between these island depaula stain. and so this space is in colorado, as long as the nice things of done and the light tween government is a context in monopoly to decide everything it should be done to get the width with the part of things. and we've studied a don you in the us, i could just state marco rubio. i was in the region this week and he has hinted that he'd like to see boots on the ground to to secure the security of gaza.

and he also said, i quote, i can tell you that any plan that leaves, how much of that is going to be a problem, because israel is not going to tolerate it. do you think that is an appetite from arab countries, particularly gulf countries to actually send troops i think there has been discussions with the u. e. about the future governments several times that i'm security and so nothing has been officially released. but i know that there have been, has been having discussions about different ways to manage this. i think a lot of the air of states are nervous about coming in at the tail end of is really troops and, and playing a security role as us. so they have talked about different ways of moving forward with that. some have have mentioned, so having

a guess retired or experience police ma'am, from the palestinian authority going there. there had been talks also about having mercenaries, uh there as well, or about playing different kind of rules there, but i think nothing official has been released. okay, so let me bring it, bring you in again on that on, on who might take security control? because i thought there was an interesting comment recently from osama hung down, he is a top official of home us. yes. so master's we can, but it's still a he said whoever wants to take israel's place will be treated just like israel. yes, that's why i said that i think you cannot find a solution and the total water unless how much the grease to it. but if you want it, but it boots on the ground, i think it would be welcome to if you put them both in regards to the on the west bank and the sr 5 a month later on. but as i said,

if nato wants to come in in the jordan valley that to protect and support the palestinian state and got down the bank, that would be welcome. but the idea of just doing doesn't without the bank where the settlers continue to, you know, act, you know, and this way. and then, you know, it was automatic. now, you know, the models in homes in the rest of the accounts and so on. that one that was work and nobody will accept that. but if you have an international force of nature, force you on force, it's both in the augusta gods on the west bank. that would be a temporary presence until there is an independent palestinian state in both as i know it's bank and he's jerusalem. i think that's will be welcome. thank you very much. thank you very much to all august today. don yet data in washington dc. you'll see medical bug in london and out good tub in amman, jordan, comprehensive coverage of the situation inside garza and the diplomacy about its future continues on that, which is 0 with further analysis on our website, alger 0 dot com is that what we want to hear from you go to our facebook page,

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the government immediately. almost hills house was 0. it's ready to hand over control of the strip if palestinians want new leadership.