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of the balance, it was an airbag, my name is how i was abducted by the c. i a, in 2004, a german citizen was kidnapped and tortured by the chain of republicans me into interpretation of powerful documentary jokes the story of how the geo politics of the post 911. while we were in the life of an innocent feel my suitcase phone, which is here. israel has postponed the release of more than 600 palestinian prisoners despite tomas earlier releasing 6 is really captives. the group calls it a blatant violation of the guys a ceasefire. deal so what's the reason for israel's decision? and how will it affect differential i'll face fire. this is inside story, the
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm several venue. there's uncertainty about the future of the guns, a ceasefire. deal a little more than a month after it was agreed. israel has suspended the release of 620 palestinian prisoners despite how ma, setting free 6 is really captives on saturday. the group says israel's far right government is playing dirty games and sabotaging the agreement. is really prime minister called the captive hand over ceremonies in gaza, humiliating and his accusing a mazda of using the captives for propaganda. but 8 groups are questioning israel's unkept promises under the 1st phase. it has yet to allow delivery of 60000 mobile homes and 200000 tents desperately needed by the 2400000 displace palestinians. and is really negotiators have not joined discussions for the 2nd phase of the deal. so
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what's behind netanyahu's dramatic turnaround, and how will it affect the hard for the ceasefire agreement? we'll get to our guests in a moment. first though, this report funded to meet your medical, the anxiety looms over garza as well as in israel. about the future of last month. 65 deal. hundreds of palestinians spent hours waiting for their loved ones to attend from is very prisons. but israel postponed the latest release of 620 palestinian prisoners on saturday. i was of to hum us upheld its end of a deal by releasing 6. is there any captives in gaza? the money that i want to fly and yeah, i can't wait for my son to come home. i want to go to him to meet him on the road. i can't wait to see him and hold him. the multi phase ceased by a deal has seen him austin, of the groups and guns over lease captives weekly, which would be followed by the release of palestinian prisoners the same day.
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israel's prime ministers criticized the captive hand of a ceremony, which often includes large crowds, anastasia appearance is office, released the statement saying in lights of the repeated violations by him. us, including rituals that humiliates the dignity of a hostages. it was decided to postpone the release of prisoners. how must responded by saying nothing. yeah. whose decision reflects a deliberate attempt to disrupt the agreement, represents a clear violation of its terms and shows the occupations lack of reliability in implementing its obligations. instead of these hundreds of protest as voice that concerns worried about the fate of at least 2 dozen more captives buildings to be alive set for release in the 2nd phase of the deal. the time you know, who demanded the deal be executed inside and not in a single movie is again dragging its feet and causing delays. he is trying to
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appease his extremist partners at the expense of the hostages. we are facing difficulties. this is the tiring sites and the external this trying to do the solutions. negotiations on phase 2 was supposed to begin in early february, but have yet to start. phase 2 is supposed to see the release of old remaining is really the captives from guns a and a full withdrawal of israeli soldiers from the strip to meet them and they didn't go. i'll just do a full insight story. so it's bringing our guests in tel aviv along leo, a former director of israel's foreign ministry in ramada. have you had a b, e political analyst, and former p a low advisor, an author of the book, rooted in palestine. and also until the akiva elder contributed to all rights
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author of lords of the land. welcome to all of you alone. let's start with you. how do you interpret the prime minister's move? not to release hundreds of palestinian prisoners on saturday. i think 2 days are they probably can definitely the government is says extremely, you really did it with the last procedure of the release of follow stages. i think the moment they want to follow stages ownership to head, to kiss the homeless people on the request. a pin is so bad in that these are the government had to respond to some island. this is their response. they chose it. i think they would have to release the presence of schools, but this was that both test and probably we did the amount that this will not
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happen again. okay. you say you feel that as a matter of course israel will continue to cease by ideal i think so i think k as stage a will be completed. we also still have to get the full board is on the stop that day. and i think this is the way to pressure come off and not to have these ceremonies. eh, again, that down and nation. eh, you leave the key to us. have you, what are your think is a play here for the is really government? is netanyahu sabotaging the cease fire as he's been accused of doing not just by how mazda in other corners as well? or is this political theater, or is this just putting pressure on her mouse to try and modify their behavior going forward? if you look at the, pardon me to submit the house record the i think it's clear that he's an expert, a suburb of doing any sort of agreement. he has been able to deal with science
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a moment. he will select the probably minister 1st back in 1996 and to no, no, i think when ever, pardon me, to submit the yahoo or destroyed the government. take any action regarding palestine or palestinians in v as more with the domestic audience. it rather than a any other considerations. if we are to talk about the human nations, it will be important to listen from palestinian prisoners that before being released as having left without food for 24 up to 36 hours. having tortured it, have been a, it may to be met in a so a of 542 meters for to 50 people have not been given the right growth as for the, the winters whether we have now. so in general, we're talking about several violations against the rights of kind of thing that's based on are taking medications. if that's happening, taking place. and i think it's important also for those issues to be noted it by
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the media. there's a flip, a keep your thoughts on what it yeah. who is trying to achieve here. it's a political response because the way home us has dealt with handing over the captives and the coffins in recent days. or you think he's trying to get out of a ceasefire deal altogether? i believe the owl is not racing against hamas, or any but a senior affection. actually, he's racing against the clock. and the clock is both political, domestic, political, and, uh, its, uh, these will be the united states that he is trying to gain more time in order to be able to convince the rear boss. president drum that uh, his uh, illusion is fantasy of, uh,
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relocation of to media but a scene is, doesn't work. so uh, every day that passes with that, another crisis um is uh, another assets wanted to know because uh uh he knows that both the flood rage and the bank we're watching him very carefully. and the release of the prisoners and the in the next phrase is way we'll have to release, as we say, heavy prisoners was blocked on that has, is very unpopular and they are both. that is what regions bank we're not very fond of this deal. so now we'll do anything in order to postpone to gain more time and the whereabouts of the is very jeff davis, unfortunately is not on top of his agenda. but according to a recent poll,
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70 percent of is really support phase 2 of the deal. now this, this pulling number was from february 8th, but from our reporters reporting that is still the case that there's an overwhelming majority of people within his real want this deal to continue to keep a can benjamin netanyahu a for, to ignore that number? yes, you can. uh, as he did that with the district before, there was a vast majority, not all the numbers, the quantity of people who took to the streets to douglas, right. and finally, he had to listen to them and to put it on hold. what the know needs is the support of his base, plus the father's phone people to ride and he's got this book, it also the old, old adults. so what the mainstream society was, of course,
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soon as you mentioned, they went to finish the war. there is a frontier here and they want all the captives back. but uh, what the hell has a different priorities. he has to uh, spend 2 days a week in court. he knows that uh, ending the wall is the beginning of uh uh, a pointing guy, a commission that will probably, i'm show will find him also what he refused to go responsible for this blunder of october 7th. so every day that passes, we lose another captive button. it's an outgoing small time the heavier let's look at this from a purely technical standpoint. the just a moment and in train game play this because now that netanyahu has made his move and said, we are not releasing the $600.00 plus policy and prisoners, $620.00, that we were supposed to release on saturday until home us release is the remaining
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4 bodies that were scheduled in phase one of the deal and until they do it, you know, as per our specifications, we don't want any of those ceremonies. so that's that. yeah. who has moved now? how moss has got to decide how they're going to respond? what are their options? to be honest, i don't think there, there are many options because i'm moving ahead with a state mon computing stage one and going into face 2 of the ceasefire. the is an interest for everybody and but it seems that the department assembled on yahoo! the only one who is trying to put this a sofa from jerry is his father, the you in to hold it now i, i, i must have been very clear regarding their intention to continue. and this latest a certainly violation of the agreement is not a helping much. now i would, i would all, i would want to agree also with, with akiva the says with regards to the domestic by mention of things. and let's
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remember once again, the prime minister netanyahu has been doing because it's not just the p a violate that this is fight agreement by a suspending the release of over 600 pound us to net presenters. because of the same time giving a press conference in some kind of in a, in the westbank in which it says it's symbolizing an extension. in other words, he's playing on possible funds in order to v game so forth of the far right. and he started to keep his very powerful finance ministers, marked it in the government, and perhaps to bring back another legal, something like that might have been that can view it to his government alone. if, if we start thinking about negotiations on the face to the sci fi deal, they were supposed to have started a long time ago according to the terms of the deal. they haven't. but there's a development net. yeah. who has changed his negotiating team?
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in fact, i think a better word would be that he has the captivated his negotiating team cuz it used to be is really intelligent services invent massage. and now that job falls to his confidant around dermot, who holds the job? the strategic affairs, administer? what do you make of the fact that it is wrong? durham, or who is now in charge of negotiating, a potential face to think? does he change the room doing that? because he, the 6 during there is more acceptable to the american administration. speaks the language and it would be easier for him to communicate with a trump people. but to go back to the show. i see here a big difference between stage a that i think will be completed. the stage to that might be completed only only is to say, and it's on, you know, it can go on. we felt then bouncing the end of the war. but there is something
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bigger than getting now above in this is this new a international plan that is does turn update to the trump plan that speaks on a government in gaza with the police give me a technocrat some say pointed by the p. a. somebody pointed without the p a. i think that the most important things you want it done, you always, that wouldn't be know how much it will does right in the future. and they'll be a, in does that in the future. and if the new plan we've done pete's these no come off and no b a in the future won't of gaza. we've seen that on, you know, moving ahead along the officer interviewed eh, i'm a member of the political bureau by the name a short while ago. and asked him the question of whether hum us would hang on to
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power and gaza, or whether they would accept to give up power. this was his answer. listen to this . as we have said many times or bridges in the holding government or administration, we are likely to have the $1200.00 immediately for any palistine on a visit to the body. it says that even if the government dick looking at the government or the egyptian both have to have it accommodate the specialized only to run the girls or to them and go over the nation with the government in and blah, blah, blah. but i get how much is this to be as, as, as a movement as a political activity. okay, so how much seems to be saying here? you heard them? yes. okay. we're willing to give up the day to day running of the gaza strip. if somebody else is going to pick up those responsibilities for a long, what do you make of that? is that to you? a breakthrough? is that perhaps a a, a direction where a solution can be found?
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if the question is do we it? i think this is not enough for that on the i'll let them know, does all the pete, they invoke the police dean and look forward to it. oh, it. oh, and i don't think about mazda and really low pointed technocrats. wrong garza, if he's not involved or not the pointing. so i think the issue is now beyond come us. it's only policy the road. gaza is at the moment unacceptable to know something, you know. and it's the plan that is imagining now from egypt from the arab league, where we move, the palestinians from running garza is you wouldn't be stuck in spite. i don't think it can happen. but i think this is the big story. then getting above everything we see now, have you been to minneapolis, someone who's the back to the spotlights of he's someone who's basically running
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the whole show. he thinks of this as the stuff that he has to support the u. s. and let's also think of what's presley and thompson a couple of weeks ago, saying that now the who can do what he wants and he's going to have the support of the us. so he thinks of this as a time for him to make all the changes possible. one of the changes we're witnessing here in the occupied westbank with they all patients on policy number actually do content over 40000 public opinion so far displaced it over this winter . also some people believed that they can achieve the ethnic cleansing plans in gaza. and of course it for him that someone last week, investing on kind of thing and the vision it for a so long it been something that them yahoo will definitely not want to see that kind of female 40 feet in the or any sort of kind of thing and unified in leadership simply because if you get to the point she will be running out of excuses not for medical sheet, a for a, a piece,
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spouses or with the international community. the 1st of the 2 state solution, which is something that's eastern 8 rejects, certainly. so all 3 of you have mentioned the us. um, so my question is, can you actually, you know, throw this one through, you will keep it, but anyone is willing to pay it to, to, to contribute. can you actually make out what the us position is here? because i'll run you through what we've heard just in the last few weeks. 2 weeks ago. donald trump lorn, quote, all hell would break out if i'm us didn't release all captives by that saturday. and so that deadline came and went and nothing happened. then donald trump said, as we all know, palestinians should be removed from gaza. the us should own the stripped. and then he said that was actually just a recommendation rather than an obligation or a concrete plan. and finally, a couple of days ago, he landed on israel and specifically met, you know, who can do what he wants, he can go to war, he can pursue the sci fi deal, it's up to him. so he is basically said, everything possible under the sun. do you understand akiva what the us position is?
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i'm not sure if uh, trump himself knows exactly what he wants. what is the end game? because he changes his mind every day and the time. yeah, unfortunately is following him. and what we know is that as how we have just said, it's not only about god that drum has no idea how to get out of this. he knows that he gave his word to his fund. i'm really, i'm adults on a former who's writing that he will bring them home, all of them, and that's a matter of prestige for him. but other than that, he has no idea. he is not really interested in going in to need his grades and go back to what uh by then they done. obama tried to do and
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fail. but uh, i believe that funded on you know, the price that he used to be domestically personally, politically for ending the war is much higher than keeping the status quotes as ministers. why god said, we are going to keep our forces in jeanine for a year and 2 more thanks into the west back. and i believe that's what they have in mind. uh, nothing you know, and these people from the right move around the car, right? because i know is radically right in my view is that they put his genius as some of them are already leaving. guys are in the west bank and those who are not willing to leave wouldn't be pushed out. and we know what's happening with the bags. the settlers are helping them to make up their mind to leave,
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and they believe that time is on our side, on these ready sides. and there is no solution for this conflict. there is no place for 2 people between the sea and the river. this is how they see this, and i don't see that. so the policy, any superpower, that's an under your appears, forcing him twisting on see it in order to pursue a piece process. so one thing that i think is emerging from this conversation is that a major reason this ceasefire is so fragile is not just because of course they are bitter enemies on both sides. it's because the ceasefire is a means to an end and there isn't an agreement on what the end looks like. the end from us is and the war of course rebuild gaza and remove is really true. but the end for israel is remove a moss and no one so far has been able to square that circle heavier is that fair? thank you. so from the very beginning we, we all understood that this is fire,
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the was just up a ceasefire agreement. they both not a part of any largest, this process is not present, but any comprehensive vision on the day after. and most of the thing most importantly east, geographically with use, is to gaza. it, which is something that allows it started to continue it to come in the a violation send aggressions they are conducting now in the occupied the westbound . so i think, i think from that perspective, the part is i've agreed to this huge effort to february and addiction and diplomacy with us to, to be able to reach to this a bill. and i think they should stick to what they sign on it and not to try to sell any sort of expectations. but particularly in the case of extra base, a very clear agreement that sets up. now what should be moving into a state to this face to instill that's a withdrawal from all of the guys. i'd wish to continue the exchange of cop cuz i'm
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pretty centers and that's something that has been already agreed and hopefully it is going to me from the end of the ceasefire, was designed to move in small steps towards a broader vision for a broader resolution of the conflict and that what i was highlighting and that with that i'm getting from what you're all saying is that there still isn't a broader resolution of the conflict than alone. you mentioned how important the, the arab plan that is currently being drawn up. and we don't know exactly the details of this plan, right. the regional arab countries and leaders are meeting about that next week. do you foresee that that plan could provide an exit and a long term goal that everybody would sign onto? i see that plan has been moved for the region festival. if this plan that will be expose a beginning of march, it will get be on the arab league,
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the so full of the international community, your role there in the rest of the world. in fact, when stand alone as one plan against the original trump plan of removing the population. i think it trump we the withdrawal and this was the state. there's the international lab that the sides, we have to start relating to. and i think this picture that you described as the broad, the picture is the key now easily. it was the international position. you might be the next up position out the cost victim guns up and even the conflict between these $1.00 and the police gene it showed to be sold. i think if we open the room for why don't negotiations, but the g is the, this will come fast is that the world wouldn't be behind it. and that the way to
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remove that clump plan that was that it, it will be seen as an episode. i think a ridiculous slip is old, but i think this is the key question. now. keep a, do you see a plan emerging from negotiations amongst our countries? do you say something emerging that met, you know, in his government would actually sign onto? well, i want to remind you 0 the viewers that just a few weeks before they still available saturday in the october 23. and i can, you know, send it to you in that day. but a seniors have no more to veto over the peace process. and the use this opportunity to insert president trump for the i bought my quotes, i agree, it was my friend on that to the are a piece initiative is the only game in dollars if you can call it the game. but the
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ever my quotes, as well as the existing piece was egypt and jordan, i actually sending a message to the just really people along the line. also let them know that we can have a peaceful peace. and we can have no motivation with out meetings to turn over the categories we're about to run out of time of year. if i could ask you real quick, your final thoughts, your perspective from ramallah, i just want to sell very quickly. but we should not forget the conflicts, and i think when we're talking about an overall vision, let's say it clearly is true. i like the rest of the region. they don't believe when i post a solution they work day and night against the battery. they also don't believe in want to stayed with equal rights for everyone and the brother international community, particularly your appeals are not helping. nope, new training for administer the bill side was more rarely could've done been
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somebody that than yeah. who is being welcomed in brussels for an official council with a west carpet once it started is being accused. and that the national court of justice of what they support it says referred to us possible it dental side. now you have the u. s. a field trump talking about normalizing alexis, and in the case of ukraine, normalizing building in the case of pilots fund. so if there is no im mediates urgent international action taken itself only about the prospects of a 2 state solution port and then the so you look you patient, but it's about the overall international system, but bends that mean that them yahoo and eastern are playing with and that's going to be all the time we have today. i want to thank all our guest along the heavier i will eat and a q l door for joining us on inside story today. and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again. any time by visiting our website, that's alpha 0 dot com for further discussion. good. our facebook page, facebook dot com, forward slash ag inside story. and you can also join the conversation on an x or
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