the the the . ready ready ready i'm rarely carlson and doha. these are the top stories on al jazeera ukraine president loading their zalinski has cut his visit to the white house short after a war of words with us president donald trump. tension between the pair started after zalinski demanded a us security commitment as part of the weapons for minerals agreement that was due to be signed from board zalinski. he was gambling with world war 3 and called him disrespectful zalinski left abruptly without signing the deal. that was aimed at helping and the war with russia. the right now not in

a very good position. you're allowed to see the positioning that examples to be right around the word beginning of the war. not in a good position. it was, i don't have the cards right now with us. you start having a car right now. you're going to give you a choice for you to do a gambling with rely, the single radiance of people seeing you gambling with world war 3. what do you see a gambling with world war 3 and what you're doing is very dis, disrespectful to the country this country. i'm the back to you far more that a lot of people said were they should have you said, thank you. was there lar, being know, in this entire media, you said you have to the tense meeting, president trump told reporters that zelinski needs to make peace or lose us support a very much over plate is as we'll look into base, we're not looking for somebody that's going to sign up a strong power and then not make peace because they felt emboldened and that's what

i so after that, i'm looking for peace. what i'd like you to go into a 10 year war either way going to ended or let him fight it out. and it'd be fights it out. it's not going to be pretty, because without it, without us, he does it. when president zelinski has told us media, he wants trump to be more on ukraine side. we are ready for peace, but we have to be in a strong position. what does it mean just to know that our armies from the our partners with us and that we have security guarantees? european leaders have been quick to defend the president zalinski. i think we all know the situation. they're using a dresser, which is russia, and the people attacked, which is ukraine. i think we are, we're right to have helped ukraine and sanctioned russia 3 years ago and to continue to do so. and when i say we, i mean the united states, in her opinion, the canadians, japanese, and authors,

we must think all folks who helped ever speak with those who has been fighting since the beginning because they fight for the dignity their independence, their children, and the security of either of these of simple things, we must to call off on this woman we seem to hold on. his riley delegation has returned home for consultations with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. after holding talks in cairo on the gods of cease fire, a mazda is urged the international community to put pressure on israel to move to the 2nd phase of the agreement, talks are expected to resume in the egyptian capital on saturday. the police and protesters have clashed in the greek capital on the 2nd down over 3 of the countries worst rail disaster. the police use tear gas on demonstrators gathered outside the parliament. 57 people were killed in february 2023 in a head on collision between freight and passenger trains. authorities handling the

accident triggered widespread anger among the public. po frances has suffered a respiratory crisis and is now receiving oxygen from a ventilator. according to the vatican, thousands of faithful are holding vigil for the 88 year old head of the roman catholic church. he's been in the hospital for 2 weeks battling pneumonia in both loans. the vatican says despite the setbacks, the pope remains alert and in good spirits. police in india as himalayan would for con, state say at least 57 construction workers are trapped after an avalanche slept over roads they were working on. officials, se 16 workers had been rescued and are receiving medical attention. recovery efforts are being hampered by poor weather, unlimited phone reception. those are your headlines. the news continues here on now to 0, after head to head. we'll see you then the

. the kenyans are angry at their presence. the last year, thousands of young kenyan hit the streets and protested the rising cost of living and a controversial finance bill put forward by president william router. the government's response was correct on the left, dozens dead and said shock waves throughout the country. and while the president ultimately fact fact had withdrew the bill. i have these to say to can i have had you and i how about you? many claim that his government continues to stifle defense. and this by despite of abductions of talkative who chose critic my guest kimani are showing what majority

of the community national assembly. he's been in parliament for more than a decade is a close out of present a router and just being a storage defender of the president's policies. ringback i made the hassle, and tonight i'll go head to head with kimani issue. i'll challenge him on his government. brutal cracked down and protested, and rampant corruption. and the president router is really the lead. kenyans want also be joined by 3 experts. a we know a catch professor of feminist and security studies and university loved them. so as you run through how to an executive director of amnesty international kenya moses line got turned in community leader in the das bro, based in the you can, the

kimani, it's in with thank you so much for joining me here on the head to head you are the majority leader in the kenya nationalist, new york place outlines to pull tests of president william root who is unpopular right now because he and you and your party haven't delivered for the people of 10, you know, 2022 election manifesto made 281 promises, can you tell audience tonight, how many of those have been fulfilled over the last 2 in office? 2 of the say, the perception all the days that the administration is quite unpopular and nothing on the category scoffing administration 3 years of time election especially. and then with special ed came into office in the bucket drop off of very deluxe dated economy. we have very many promises that he said, but i can assure you that with the change in your costs, the implementation of the money festival is page by page topped off the top. but

you have it in 5 minutes of the problem since it they've been implemented. how many on the 200? 81 promise out how no good. i'm gonna give you estates on 12 to 10 or 200, but i'll tell you you're the 1st public vision. who said to me, i will give you it's free on. so just let me know. i can give you an answer i can be on. so it's 40 out of $281.00 promises that means 95 percent of your buyers are not being met. 2 and a half years in bodies and on but maybe not mine. so my number's the number and the endo, a normal design, parliamentary monitoring organization in kenya that attracts all parties. dissing 14 out of 281. i mean, we can run through some of them off present. a router said he would give free internet and phone calls to kenyans. he has and he said he would start an inquiry into cronyism. he has not, he said he would rectify the international convention against enforce disappearance as he has not. i could go on the not in kenny and so frustrated because they would like to do an election campaign. well, many of i told you about is a possibility for them all from is alondo us and bodies. we have to have the rest

of the kazi rectified the international convent items. we have again, symbols, disappearances ratified, very many international con, but has the ratified the international convention against him. but he said he would do it. so it is, comes to power between 2 an obvious you could do it with the stroke of his plan. why is it not done that he is yet to notify? but it is what i'm going to for walk in progress was that time right for it. so that's addition, according to the many things have per timelines. i was typing that he said he was doing timely and he said he would do quite. he said he would do a public inquiry into cronyism within 30 days. has he done it? public, claudie? yeah. a public inquiry just to establish the extent of cronyism, state capture and make recommendations. page 61 of your manifesto, the 30 days as we do not view the alternative might be if you read the non core report that accommodations on what needs to be done on step courtney the on step captcha or next like additional killings. that is, the cops had ended up quickbooks, which you haven't done with the amount of less thoughtful for multiple things,

you know, and you admitted to be that the people are unhappy as a perception of the government that's unpopular. kenyon to be most upset about the cost of living. and yet when thousands of young kenyans took to the streets and protests of your government last year, the finance bill, you'll government open fire on them, killed them full simply, abducted and disappeared them. how do you justify such a violent crack down on your own citizens in a democracy fund? let me so this maybe, as you said, was gonna allow me to answer the question on the promises kept i totally, the money fest was being implemented top top of the top right from housing to the cost of living. but you're speaking about because of course you cannot judge most or what else to be done in 5 years. you know, shots, tweet full. so you said you were doing 30 days and you haven't. but just deal with the volume we should. how do you justify what happened my last summer in? can you? and now come into, let's say, the cost of living can tell you what you've done with the cost of living and from the subsidizing of the production,

rather than subsidizing consumption as they promised them. or come pains, you remember the fast demonstrations off of the electron june 2023, about the cost of living, which also and with granted with the offense unfortunately um for the most special end up with that, which is a very unfortunate incident. and it is not true that people are more strict than you open file. it is just the nature of what happens with a demonstration with a tongue violent and the police have to intervene. let me save all of these points . it's not just unfortunate. we all regret the loss of life during the 2022 demonstrations and even the demonstrations on the june last year. unfortunately, the lights have to be lost but was locked up. what files opened? so yeah, the way to live has to be lost. lives would take the right people were shot in the head. no, nor life ought to have been lost and nobody can justify the loss of life. anyway,

the one out of demonstrations out of according to reuters investigation, 19 year old charles a. we know when to protest was killed with a gunshot to the head. the police were coded as death as a road accident. 21 year old shaquille being gay. he does the same day as we know also shorten the neck police record of his death. as a road accident, if these dest so, so regard to, but why is the canyon police covering them up as a fortune, as me, maybe we have a very robust constitution in the country. the both the best constitution in sub saharan africa. this consortium has very good and clear safeguards that to make sure that everybody is capital conflict options, including the police. you've mentioned 2 or 3 people i think from i paused because the independent police almost april, 32 from that i called to the you have recorded about 60 that's from last the uh yeah, demonstrations and the some i think of both such as something about the investigation, they have dismissed some of that close the file of the investigation that i can

assure you, the police may even somebody how many in the police force me to tell her what i was taught, how many the country will not allow you. if you say that this is great rhetoric and how many police of them can you have been prosecuted for their own in the violence in 2023 or 2024. can you tell us how many i'll tell you from of the last last day of the demonstrations 3 already in court. 3 please somebody who's been process 33 i've been prosecute an offering process you've been unavailable nava, hot default cases before you prosecute somebody. you go to investigate, so you have to face the right so much that allows you. bodies of people showing signs of torture, continued to turn up in rivers, porous quarries, mote, trees. the authorities have yet to investigate or prosecute anyone for these crimes . can you have the history of police brutality and lack of accountability for serious abuse, or you will have to be one right to watch. you want to believe what human rights, what say not what i'm saying. yeah. because the believe in human rights.

remember the started by say i will give you straight on you. it is, they'll take many. you do that take, i didn't come, you have to give that to i came, you have to give the might take and they possibly so they're rising. the police officer not being held to account. they are wrong because a police officer must be held to account, but they haven't been. that is why we have institutional haven't moved them to account. so what you said today about the depths sounded good. you said it's regrettable. no should be no loss of law that's. that's what you say here. what you say and tell me a little bit different. this is what you said in the summer, about the abductions of young people. you said that there a way for people to basically re come the system. you said these people quote, they don't really abducted you said quote, they're looking themselves in at being based with the gold friends and hiding you saying the oldest abductions, kenyon burns, crying of a missing children, bodies turning up and rivers. that's people pretending hiding with the girlfriends in the air b and b. do you understand how offensive that sounds? maybe i'll speaking in the county and the context was the come a for,

you know, bill very misconception that every of abduction the, the country was being perpetrated by security agencies. but what i say is that we have rules in the country now that people what construed to have the broken the law in terms of the computer me see, was inside the thumbs up. easily a phone comfortable the dca of the police children and must address them and take them before parts of the world. because that you know what they do is i've, and the police and security agencies have no business adopting anybody. and nobody should be ever, they are of duct trying to buy security agent. but they are allow me, allow me to make my point because you asked me a question and it is your not caught them that i say. and again, it is not our case is maybe not as the walk out of adoptions of what was possible to be of doctrines. let me tell you the cases where people to

somebody was we hold up in that now b and b. ok. but the report ending sofa love doctor. but for you as a leading politician in the country where people are being disappeared in a democracy in 2024, 2025. it seems a strange thing to focus on. not the kids whose bodies are being found in rivers and forest and warehouses with gunshot wounds to the head and then they, and instead of focusing on that, you focus on one case of somebody, an ad b and b seems strange. and maybe i also say the case is political conspiracies. where people are we talking about the opening shot police intelligence services, abducting tips. you accept that happens in your country. we will government and your intentions levels of abducted innocent people. you accept that it has been claimed the some of the same does happened. it has been claim you don't accept it happened. i do not believe that i informed disappearances perpetrated by the stating can. now not in these damage. we have an administration which so the 1st time, none of them, the president himself committed that never again was canyons have to disappear and

you faced their bodies, our toll free by a lot of time, i like happened some time buck. and therefore, why i said the claims the claims, but it was the claims that are being investigated. they don't claim on the give you a back. i'll give you my, my less who give me if i'm going to give you the fact that right now because the code you enter on the world, what you may not notice the attorney general of can his son was of talk to literally a subject member of the government, if someone was taken, how did he get them released? can you tell our audience? still trying to do is go to discuss the doors just in missouri, the farmers agent, how people move out, adopted the job soon. the possible who has alleged but to some was not that easy for modeling the generally just in between. and i've how did you get it started and i'll tell you again. i have read from the media had just in what did he, what he said, just as you, how did it he's on vacation by just didn't want to be somebody who has the majority says he's the president. somebody said president rudo intelligent service of taking

my son, present rudo called the head of your intelligent service and his son was released. have you have you had made the crate the same have you had from the direct off and you're telling me what's the route as the night have you had for me? you know, i don't live in your but you as part of the original. why don't you allow then me to tell you might need to because that's what takes place on what has been reported as always the i'm reporting the most. this is the good member of your government, the position a member of your god. you'll call it a lawyer and he said it's not a adult. that's why i told you just in maternity, the formats on the different kind of municipal publics. obviously, yes. have a reputation from you has beef with the most. okay. in the government, he saw out that he made up a story about the big of the reasons they rely on kenyan. well, we will allow me, will you allow me please if i for this please? this is just, i'm, i'm, he, the reasons why just and what to do was remove this. i've 20 general. yeah. around

the time of the demonstrations. okay. in june of last year. the reasons probably why justin went to the nose is probably on his way out. if you he was maple subdivisions, baptism and active investigations, as i told you as present really. so tonight, but we have got your need probably to invite him and ask him as you called the presence williams with them. they've already spoken to you tonight. it is a simple fact requested yes or no, i have not had the money. i don't know if you can get us to. so one of the sort of recap from you is just to be funded administer in the canyon government, has said that his son was abducted by the intelligent services. and the president, kenya, had to intervene to release his son. you suggest the minister is lying and on his way out, the president hasn't denied any of the top. i don't suggest i tell you, particularly the minister has reasons to lie. okay. and what's good cause result and he's on his way out. he definitely knows it. all right, just inventory. sure. what are the rest of the i love you the because if

a lot of politics, even even the of the sun is qualitative for politics is blink politics. we have a very unfortunate incident. let's bring in a panel now to see what they think about all of this. i'm going to go 1st to a room, go halton who is the executive director of amnesty international kenya in your organization is being documenting a lot of these abductions you yourself. i believe has spoken some of the adoptees and their families kimani suggest this is kind of what are under the bridge. there's no real evidence for now. a lot of it's politics. what's your view? may i think there has been a trends of um, targeting defense people who are protested in our streets, excessive use of force against people ex, essentially just expressing the right to assembly. and in one case, for example, this young man was essentially held incommunicado. he was stripped naked, he was saved, not just on top of his head, but in his pubic areas. he was interrogated ad nauseum about whose connections with

an order he had done was to post cartoons an artificially generated uh images onto the uh, on his twitter handle. i just have what can i have of the president's in a casket? it's not appropriate to somebody makes fun of the present and can they get tortured like this us when we be able to treat him president, when the box top to his desk, he took decisive option to end of the extra judicial giving example happening to what you don't wanna say these to the case of about the 3 or 4 young counsel allegedly adapted and it went to the emergency. they were up dr. the why adapted as it was reported the tongue back to the of just talking about with their families . and it was a lot of case, well, one of them tend a box, a piano in a diesel night with a 40 touch form. so you need to ask yourself where the,

where i don't understand what the factory power of phones has to do with even hulu, or even if i, if i am abducted and kept incommunicado without a phone or anything. i do not expect you to have a fully charged phone and to do. yup. yeah. after you tonight, it would torture. i mean up to the room, you just described. i am to i am. i am not denying the thing if you listen to me and please listen to me, king. because as i say, the mid the, the chase is adoptions as to who is i'm adopting people as a question faithfully am i wrong? and one good thing they thing that occurred in so they, they say they say, so the police say it is not us. or what do we do in a country with these additional left walk? allow the investigative and just because any specials we investigate and get projects we have adopted who so on the somebody young middle of the final is what is a good point to braves that a we know ok is a professor of feminist and security studies at the university of london, so as kamani says, what do you in the country with the institutions,

what i want to ask you do the institutions, what content is there? accountability, what is your perspective? i think we must begin by recognizing the states whether there's a huge trust deficit with 0 to reaching you. everyone spoke about the fact that you're 2 years until 5 year term we are unemployed. some of us have employees, your employer does not wait for you to reach your end of the contract. it tells you, have you performed well or not? we all have performance reviews and performance contracts. and i think the citizens who voted for us saying things are not working. i do not believe that institutions are working effectively because if i tell you that people are being abducted outside your house and you say smoke my people, then you'll also shouldn't be to tell us, pull those up, you're not giving tenants a new confidence. if you say it's not the police, it's not the n i s, but tom or we don't know who they're on. this is supposed to automatically assume that that's fine. since it's not the police, the motion intelligence is trust must be built,

mistaken. what if we have to trusted with the government to respond to him? yes, i agree with how the trusts must be not actually built you on your trust from your options. and that is why it is all new, right? but yellow institutions to investigate so that those who claim they have been adopted. because as i said, the, the criminal elements that i've been involved in, i remember i left you a v shaped of the youth demonstrations in june last year. i think that on july or august, if i'm not strong, this is what this covers. you know, chris called quite a number of coffee just outside the airport in that room. and it turned out that somebody, a, some sort of crazy cereal keela was killing ladies and dumping their bodies there before you can imagine what will happen if we want or quick to judge and say yes, visa, protest probably on from the desktop in the bottom top of what happening then we'll have disappeared. then all the bodies i've done before i go to publish. it'd be waiting patiently. it wouldn't go very quickly. just comparing. do you mind seems

to be suggesting that pre 2022. there was lots of bad stuff. and since then things have improved in as somebody is coming multiple governments over multiple years. do you agree with that? no, i mean, i think what has happened the last 6 months has been really remarkable and very scary for many canyons. um 89 abduction. $63.00, that's $29.00 still missing. these are not normal times. and if you put together the number of people who are killed in 2023 in 2024, that is 4 times the number that was killed during the multi party is a period and the struggle for multi parties. and so we've seen a real jump in these figures, but it's not just the figures. it's just what happens to a family, to a community whose young one is, is, has had the live life ripped from them. so i think we have to get beyond the numbers to just think about what does it mean uh for the people that you mentioned, the find that finding their way into in body bags in, in what reason can it last to stop moses like that?

i want to bring in your community leader canyon community. then the desperate i believe you're also one of the authors of the policy manifesto in 2022. so i don't ask you the 2nd question, i ask you money and stuff. what do you make of this? study that was done by a non partisan group, which said it shows 14 promises out of 281 in the manifesto have been fulfilled. do you think that's what's driving a lot of canyon frustration? maybe 1st and foremost, we need to understand the president as and decided to be a leader. no, to me, i probably teach. and i want to say that it and guiding the use. putting these top to the conversation with the president, he listened to them, the youth said they wanted parts of a finance bill to be all the time the president listened to them. they had conversation. in fact, the members of the parliament went back date. it drafted the finance, but they won no at shootings while they were asking for these changes.

come along, this started when we started having people going in gene fia, we had to petition going in the youngest us when we appreciate form over 7075 percent of canals population, about 20 percent of the roads were politically motivated. not driven by organic anger from young people, the young people will angry. these are well educated people, they have nothing to do. these are the message that the current government inherited on the flu, the bottom up according to taps formation agenda was the president only spoke about the prioritize 5 year. yes. is to create jobs for these people to feed things to keep like inherited is a president route. so wasn't me a long standing senior member of the previous government was heading harris. i'm thinking you were. mindy listened maybe a little more. maybe maybe by the, let me let me just explain because it costs 2070, or really

a little was deputy president desk by name. okay. that's a fact of life. find that for when there might be safe. it speaks about the and had it done, see, okay, you know, i do want to talk more about president router. we're going to do that in the 2nd half of the. sure. right. now we're going to take a break. when we come back in part 2, we will carry on to get to keep on eastern and to our panel, we're going to hear from our very patient audience here in london's con. we'll see you after the break, the the impact of shifting power dynamics. all you have to do is flip switch and he has a thorough caring, state divided opinion. you can listen to a person's words, but you should judge that by their auction. international conflict is there a split into is to take with jeremy teal, any weakness to their workshops,

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[000:00:00;00] the to hello, i'm riley, carlson and doha. here are the top stories on al jazeera, ukrainian president loaded mirror zalinski has cut his visit to the white house short after a war of words with us president donald trump. tension between the pair started after zelinski demanded a us security commitment as part of the weapons for minerals agreement that was due to be signed, trump warrant zalinski. he's gambling with world war 3 and called him disrespectful . zalinski left abruptly without signing the deal. that was aimed at helping end