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or hello and welcome to the show. i'm sammy's a dance on sunday as well, once again, cause of much needed food, medicine and fuel into gaza. prime minister venue mean nothing. yeah. whose government has been clear? the move is meant to pressure him us into accepting a new set of sci fi tons. these terms though conflict with the seas, 5 deal israel agreed to in january. how may i ask, who's calling to move a violation by as well of that deal? but the spines, as well as clear intent to use the of ation, is leverage the global response as long as they've been muted. while our countries have condemned the blockade, the us and europe do not appear willing to hold israel to the terms of the original agreement. so can as well that will be held to account. and if so, how will put back to our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report from, for the

a call at this food distribution point in southern guys that russians are already meter, palestinians here use what little they can to prepare meals to break their fast. during ramadan. they had hoped to mark the fasting months and peace given the cease fire, but only days into celebrations, israel and then it was locked aid and supplies from entering gaza. once again, the ash and go ahead the what is this decision? it is an execution. what's more do they want to do to us? when they prevent everything from people, what is left? they destroyed their homes and devastated them. they also prevent food and drink from reaching them. who would accept this? of israel is attempting to pressure from us into changing the terms of the ceasefire. both sides agreed back in january. a mass says that's unacceptable. let's think you will if this as i'm lucky. so let's do you mind if we condemn the cheap black malpractice by netanyahu,

and is extreme is to governments against our people by using humanitarian aid as a bargaining chip in the negotiations. the 1st 40 to day phase of the deal expired on saturday. that soft, 33 is really captive and 1900 palestinian prisoners released. but rather than enter face to israel is backing us proposal to extend the 1st space in exchange for half . the remaining $59.00 captains that would essentially allow israel to avoid negotiating. it's complete withdrawal from guys that strips rebuilding and it's future governance mass is calling on the international community to pressure israel into starting phase 2 discussions as agreed. but the music, the global response so far doesn't appear to have softened israel's position. it might come up if her mazda doesn't release the hostages soon. the gates of gaza will close at the gates of hell. will open of us special envoy,

steve would cost is traveling to the region to prevent the cease fire from collapsing altogether. but the president, donald trump, also telling nothing yahoo to do whatever he wants with the deal. israel appears to have free reign to cut off supplies into gaza. and just the, the, the truth is that we are in the real time and this is not a lie. we could not find anything to eat. we would not find anything to eat for a week because of this. we wonder if time and could return again. the biggest surprise is that we're in the 21st century and the world allows the spam and palestinians and guys that are still facing is really a tax. and once again, starvation all the way to the world to do something for the car out to 0, inside story the well before we goes, well i guess let's talk to a seamless, he's the golf. so response lead at ox fam joins us from golf. so good to have you with us so, so 1st of all, just to be very clear. all we now in

a situation where israel has stopped absolutely o a by the way talking and the items of food will to clothing fuel getting into gaza right now. yes, unfortunately, we're now um, we don't have any trucks, intern garza and utility on the human teddy and our teams. and that's actually not technically tough to this is failure. since the 3 days we didn't receive any talks and also and including the fuel and building on the items. and we're talking about the costs of population of molding to 1000000 people. how is that impacting that plight? yeah, the impact is a huge. yeah. in a sense that they want of a noise say of, of uh, taking such decision about the closure and closing of all the borders. we and the items or the food is found to be disappeared from the market. and the price is

start to be increased. we are, we are afraid to that of the maximum. we'd go from basic logia and we went and fees and you and your check engine, we will face, we be able to will not be able to, to, to have access to for all the basic basic items as a part of the siege i or the closure of those 2 borders also decided to cut to the the, the on the electricity light line that they provide the c c or to the century plants with the, with the state business, i see what the furniture plans cera, smaller than 400000 individuals in the mid area and also this with inbox to get access to thinking border on this up all day and say it was the need very who, montana and, and i imagine you probably as an agency you ask is riley, authorities and officials to let you bring a day and i'm wondering what kind of response to go, what do is ready,

officials tell aid agencies about why they doing this to a civilian population and, and how long they'll go on with an absolute shot down of any supplies for the civilian population. yeah, a lot of work we are way out of him with that in norcross and our aim is to support the need of uh, of people who are in need. and we are coming through of focusing on the support that needs. we would have turned back for themselves to dental, and we are doing our best together with different the stakeholder and different i and yours. and you and i just as to, to support that a leasing load, albany slash slash bought the under, under the leads up, located on people on the support that you're my dad. and this is what we are doing . all right, well the same wish to have that from unc sam joining us from god. so thank you very much and we do hope thank you, let them through for all and some people that and john,

all that spring in our guess now have joining us from kind of a key about don political. i'm list and contribute to, to hall rights. and also world molds of the land, the will for his rel, sacraments in the occupied territories. 1967 to 2007 in on mine. jordan, the honeymoon stuff, a senior analyst on palestine, the international crisis group. and in new york, ive been hots professor of law and the judge john newman scholar had dropped cuz law school. well, welcome to well, let me start with the haile. you know it's been several days now. it's a handy since israel announced it was simply cutting off all supplies. oh, supplies of all the basics of life and gone. so we haven't seen a come phrase which regard themselves as the holders of human rights in the world. take any strong action, any counter measures to that right now, right?

well, that's right. i think this row has suddenly successfully pushed the limits as to what american merits outrage us and the solve this wrong cause. but was here, it's not just that these countries have been completely silent. you know, the 1st day of the announcement of the recommendation of a little cutting off age to cause a depression from us into accepting an initiative that was completely on disclose to her mouth and to begin with in terms of extending the 1st phase. we have seen the, you actively condemned her mouse, which was incredibly shocking, considering bible designations from us is not the one that started again, committing a more crime here. it's not the ones talking to 1000000 causes right now, you know. and so to, to not just see that silence from, from, and to not from central community, but more importantly, it actually start to see about condemnation pulling on her mouse and sort of the actual party committing the wall. crime has really rebuilt the double standard that i think many have been trying to, to really highlight as the last 60 months in terms of not just the way that the

international community of law to remain silent. the fact that international organizations that should have been a deterrent for the kinds of actions we've seen over the last 60 months, not to mention the self interest of regional states even today with the early excitement going on. this really isn't about necessarily what you know. they can do to better the situation for causing so costing and what they can do for their own domestic politics and national security. so i think this is really highlighted once again the double standard when it comes to the case of palestinians and especially cause a cave. uh, you know, i'm wondering how much the government rhetoric has changed on this issue of whether or not it's obstructing a. you might remember in october 2024, as well as i'm back to the to the united nations dining down on telling the security council it had, quote flooded garza with as much aid as possible and quote, denying that israel was obstructing aid. now it's openly saying it's doing it right

. there's this been something of a shift in, in the rhetoric to actually i think that the, the what a senior public in gaza is called between the, the, is ready or sorry these and the come us. but it's a plane, where is the agent in a way, to control the situation. we know that the how much is using a food and fuel in order to uh, being charged. and sometimes they even steal a seal fuel and they have their priorities. the people will get to the age 1st and it's according to the evidence for that mister keys. mean we the reports done by even us

all pharmacies and statements at the time they that they didn't see evidence of aid being stolen. where is the evidence for the well, uh, the charges have offered you some videotapes showing that there was 2 lines of uh, chromeboys off the trucks. coming in to garza and the very uh, last minute it says, well, actually uh, getting guy there, the people of guys uh, which line is relevant to them. and um, there was some, some reports even in the national media that, uh how us is using and they did it before, even before the war. um, the, the agent was use the in way to control guys. uh so uh,

it's a calling to my knowledge. there is no family in garza yet. the problem is water and electricity and that's uh, the wheel humanitarian issue. that can and in, that's all for babies of people who cannot afford to buy fuel in the back market. we don't have so much mr. akiva to jump in again, but we did have reputable organizations, several of them before the seas. 5 deal like hawks from talk about starvation in some parts of gauze and becoming a reality. right. and, and the re, to your point about the reports that we saw in some of the international price, like the washington post investigation directing us to a un finding that some of the misuse of a that was going on by gang is it said with games which will operating and is

really controlled, tired tree the indicated that either these very socrates, we're turning a blind eye or actively encouraging the fast of some of this a pointing to it being something that was going on under the watch of these really a pharmacies. i mean us, but however we try to, you know, these very sort of, he's tried to spin this. so the, i mean now, is the situation not very clear? that is wrong is simply cutting off all i the people are not folding victim because of facts devised by anybody. even whether or not that is going on. there is simply no way of coming into gauls or is the issue now? is it not mr. keith? well, uh, i really believes that uh, the aid has been used as a political instrument. uh, also domestically getting his route. uh, the supply of aid is not popular. uh either you. unfortunately,

you can find many as larrys who have compassion to the senior people. i think i said before, people don't have enough compression for both the, for a senior and these rarely people um you know, what, what may. ready uh, change the uh, priorities is the pressure from the cap to families because uh what we heard from right is ready kept. it came back home. is that the hum us god stalled them. that if you use the, you go to installing people, you're going to solve. so maybe the pressure will come from here. unfortunately, this is why the government and so now doesn't really see, you know, i suppose is for the babies in both. and here's where and i and you guys are okay, let me bring in a bill. is that any, i'm big you

a t n international about depriving a civilian population of the basics of life. when do you and officials, the latest statement from you and officials talking about israel is move is cutting off of cutting off the age is threatening civilian life. at this point, no, there is no ambiguity. first as the occupying power and garza. israel has an affirmative obligation to ensure the food and medical needs of the population. in addition, any party to an armed conflict has an obligation to allow and facilitate a much wider range of humanitarian aid include including shelter, fuel, and other essential goods. as was mentioned earlier, the starvation of civilians as a method of warfare is both prohibited and no more crime. that means starving civilians either as a form of collective punishment or as a means of pressuring the adversary bill concession. let me jump in and interrupt

to you too, but bear with me and be patient. i want to bring to you these re the line. that's also a just dropping saying that the causing all site because how micies benefiting from the a. how does that sort of, if i can call it, defend state with your understanding of international law, if you know if, if you, as the occupying power, think a going in is helping the people, the groups, you'll find thing. yeah. so there are 2 problems, will really 3 problems with this particular line of argument, right? israel, 1st as the occupying power, there is no exception to the obligation to ensure the food and medical needs of the population. second, the rule that is real appears to be invoking which is article 23 of the 4th of july of the convention was intended to create a very narrow exception to the obligation of non occupying powers to allow and facilities humanitarian relief. however, over many years,

the narrow exception was abuse and as a result in the 1970s, a new rule was agreed upon by state rendering the old exception obsolete. and so now there is simply an unconditional obligation to allow and facilitate humanitarian relief, with no exception. and us been let me jump in again. adel site. it's also trying to but if, as, as we're hearing from a key, but he was relaying these right. a government claim that they think they have evidence that so he's actually stealing some of the a. does that give the occupying power? is there any exemption to give them the right to then console the entire population of 2000000 people from aid? know, and this is precisely why that narrow exception was, was eliminated from international humanitarian law because it allows 3 textual and disproportionate cutoffs that aid in response to allegations of minor diversion or

use. there's also a practical reason for this, which is that right? when you cut off aid, the price of food actually increase. it said you're actually increasing the value of whatever it remains. so it's actually counter productive as well as being in human to honey. this is a really a, it's hard to think of another power level like this in, in, in recent years of an entire population. suddenly losing access to the basics of life and the, occupying power simply coming out and saying it clearly. now, without any attempt, you know, to, to explain, it's a way to disguise it. there are lots of measures that the allies of israel could take if they wanted to raise the pressure the government to change it stones, right? and we only have to look at some of the statements coming out from those western powers when it comes to situations like to crime. that's listening to what the

foreign minister of germany just said. stoney a few days ago about a situation in ukraine. i guess we got, i'm a new era of ruthlessness has begun a heinous time in which we must defend the rules based international owed on the strength of little more than ever against the might of the strongest. because otherwise, no free country can sleep peacefully. annual which has a strong and a busty. i could just say, always seeing a situation where we see stronger reaction to an argument in the oval office, which was the, the back story or the event that happened before. those comments by the german foreign minister and arguments in the oval office between the us and ukrainian presidents come provoke strong the reaction then salvation of 2000000 people in gauze, all the denial of basics to, to 1000000 people in gaza. well, that's right. and that goes back to the point about double standards that many have been pointing to spend last 16 months of this conflict is the way that you can talk

about a role in those based older, you know, western states when it suits them, are able to condemn such and parties to the conflict, but that has not been the case in the instance has cause whereby we've seen the western states provide the tonight covers that as well. we've seen them provide the economic support, the operational to just to call support in order to enable israel to do what is has been doing in the last 16 months was here. we are now seeing them also provide civil operational support to enable them to do a similar in the west in the context of the west bank, which is where it is always ready. media itself is describing as the creation of many garza as well because if occasion of the west bank regional states, you know, again on ultimately you know, guilty of this in the sense that they have not tried to use any of the leverage they have with regards to the normalization deals, when israel to put sufficient pressure, anything we've seen sort of sticking positive measures, you know, things like

a drops sending and medical chromeboys. but really know how should those got all these that come trusted by. for example, what we're seeing over ukraine with us coughing, military aid from ukraine because of an argument in the oval office. we're not seeing the same level of concern. and this of you know, when it comes to gaza and this obviously meshes that will pallas could use if they wanted to write. precisely, there were definitely measures that that can be utilized in order to pressure parties to the conflict. both parties to a concert, to reach some kind of sci fi deal, or to put an ends on the financing. and we haven't seen any of those measurements. and you know, the, the images that we still coming out of the oval office last week. nothing of the sort was applied to nice and you'll hear nothing out here by what accounts by the icbc and i c j is wanted for crimes. it's a key. so should we be surprised? the tool was a clear from the stop that the prime minister is very prime minister. didn't want

to complete this deal, which had signed up to we just remind ourselves of some of the statements that were made. racing right at the beginning of the signing of this c o, the agreement i should say, of the sci fi deal is rails finance minister best allow small storage thing. on january the 18th quotes, unfortunately, we were unable to prevent this dangerous bill, but we insisted and what able to insure through a government decision that the war would not hand in any way without the achieving its full goals, foremost among them, the complete destruction of how mass and garza was also remember on january the 19th, the 1st day of the seas, 5 prime minister ben, you mean nothing now is saying quote, when i say maintaining the philadelphia access, not only we will not reduce the forces that we will even increase them as well, so it came on looking at some of those statements. of course the significance of withdrawal of israeli forces was something that was agreed to in the seas 5 deal.

when you look at what was said, should it be a surprise to us a tool that it appears right now that nothing you know, wants to try and re negotiate will go for a different deal than the one he'd agree to. it was the only dealing tom, uh and this has been the case for many months. actually i believe that this was from day one is ending the war and allowing all the cap case to go back home. and the prism is exchange the house. i'm not stupid, antonio is not in the dues, and he knows that the captain of the only cause and, you know, today the president of the united states is always talking about cost is the landscape doesn't have cost. so cost has to be this crowds human beings,

and also starving and dying in the tangled. so the wasteful the tradeoff is all the captives in return of the entire goes up now, and it's, i know it's not only violating the out on the already tell you in a this didn't be so was much anyhow, we'll comply with the other part which is we're just drawing from for them. she axes and opening the rough uh terminal for a go all kind of goods coming from egypt. and egypt is waiting even to start the reconstruction of gaza. so the aide is just what i thought it's all over the entire process. all right, i do what legal mechanisms exist for address. if

a civilian population is so openly being deprived of the basics of life as well. there are several mechanisms at the honey already mentioned. the international criminal court has already issued arrest warrants for finance, german netanyahu, as well as former defense. mr. delano centering around the war, crime of using starvation as a method of warfare, jewels the crime against humanity of murder, which involves the death of several children as a result of starvation. the international court of justice has issued provisional measures ordering as well to allow and facilitate humanitarian relief. and israel's failure to do so will likely be taken by the court as an indication of genocidal intent. and finally, there's one will heavier but come soon enough to help people. so that really requires a political will of states. that's the obligation of all stage to cooperate, to bring to an end, a breaches of fundamental rules of international law, including through sanctions, through arms and bar, goes to diplomatic pressure and in other sections. and so really falls on will

stage to do their part to bring these 5 issues to and i'm right down, i think we've got 30 seconds briefly even though and our plan is, is coming together. can't convince donald trump, there's an alternative to what he was proposing, what you and officials called ethnic cleansing was difficult to see. even if the architects are able to proactively come up with something tangible. how they'll be able to actually change the 2 most powerful projects to this concept. israel and the us ultimately they on the to decide is about the future of gaza here. so whether they'll actually be able to leverage the power that they have, the capacity that they do have is something else entirely. and i think given those, leading this initiative a highly dependent on us aid. so it's, it's very unlikely that we're going to see much come out in the way of anything positive for the palestinians at least immediately. all right, go to thank our guests for the contributions akiva and all that helps and to hand

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