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wants his comments about ukraine. interesting, but not really surprising given what happened to it exactly a week ago with lot of them is landscape saying that you was finding it much harder to deal with the ukrainians, but there is going to be these peace talks and saudi arabia actually next week. and also seeing that he'd sent out a very strong statement about russia continuing to power and ukraine is it has been over the last few hours. some people here would suggest that part of the reason for that is that the us of paused intelligence cooperation with ukrainians. which means that they're less able to participate the sort of action of from russia. but it should be said that in the strong statement, donald trump said he was considering sanctions, including banking restrictions on titus on russia. if they didn't get to the piece that had to talk the piece talks and get around the table, but he said he was only considering that he didn't say that he was actually imposing the sanction. so that as well as the jobs,
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which is why he was talking about and reasonable job thinkers, 151000 other than the united states in february don't from what was expected, but it better than what happened in january. so i suspect that the, the run line will be that the mean take away from this and also his comments on, on russia and ukraine. allen, we've got listened a minute before the end of this program. he also spoke about canada. really threatening them yet again with more tabs can you just deliver? i don't exactly what he said. the type of thing is a is an issue for him. he's been a ton of so and taught himself, it is cause problems with the stock market, which donald trump at historically has looked at as the reflection of the, the wealth and the how the economy is doing. of course, let's just point out the stock market is not the economy. he said there will be stopping go. he said that could be short term pain for american consumers, american consumers consent and how they're being impacted by the tightest costs to
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go up. how it could be much more expensive, but he says that he's continuing to look like timber and daily as well as things that can be taught to. okay, thank you so much ellen, this, ellen. so she, for us there at the white house covering of everything that donald trump has just been speaking about getting the russia ukraine for getting a deal done a piece deal done with around, as well as potentially even more parents against canada. but it's all for the moment to stay with us. the bottom line is up next the on the. well, i've seen some flooding recently, reports to the north, inside the ravia. and is that sort of area? we're going to see the active. whether if you go west of that and off of that,
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so it took you cyprus and event things looking bravo and by fences friday night time sheet down to about to an anchor, down to about 6 in a month in jordan. but the weather is not going through your heads and it keeps moving northwards and east woods. so it leaves fine weather for all of tour q. 50 degrees, and it was is done both about 20 and garza. this is during saturday. however, you all the exception. the rule is when the and where, where the throughout most of syria iraq iran spare with the dimensions. of course, this line of right here, stretching costs into east inside. he is moving slow, the surface will stop, right individually. kappa are wet looking sunday, and on the suspect to those capsule. and it might drift across to just touch the you a for the sy from that there are hints of charles building and dimensions of society and that goes back up to assess degrees again. you'll notice and this is all slowly, but then he started fading away. so i said on monday it's still hanging around and giving rain to about rain. cats are eastern saturday in southern africa, not
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a gas goes looking particularly went. but that's also true. if i can go to engineer of the the sun rises brilliantly here, the history was written, it became various here, the beast and the timeless journey. i am steep pundits and i have a question with israel cutting off all 8 to gaza. and how much rejecting israel's changes to their ceasefire deal is a new wave of destruction against casa, and the indiscriminate killing of palestinians about to reignite. let's get to the
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bottom line, the, the exchange of more than 1900 palestinian prisoners held by israel and exchange for the release of 25 is really captive held by hamas and the return of remains of 8 others. finalize this phase, one of the cease fire agreement between israel and hamas at the start of what was expected to be the initiation of phase 2. i'm us still hold captive. 59 is released . $24.00 of whom were believed to be alive and $25.00 deceased. this phase 2 of the agreement calls for negotiations to end. the war to withdraw is really troops entirely from gaza and to search humanitarian aid and ultimately to secure the remaining 59 is really captives. but that phase 2 of the agreement is now hanging by a thread. as israel has stopped all a trucks from entering garza and her mazda is rejected. israel's call for extending the ceasefire without taking these other steps to withdraw its forces. nerves are
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on the edge as prime minister. netanyahu has now resumed threats of restarting the destruction. and in addition, this week, air of states made their own 53000000000 dollar guys that read development proposal focused on rebuilding gaza by 2030. a proposal already rejected by the united states and israel presidents donald trump, has now instead call to the relocation of all 2000000 gallons, a base palestinians. and it's tweeted out and a i created depiction of himself and is really prime minister netanyahu lounging in swimming trunks on a beach before exotic towers and a resort in gaza. calling it the riviera of the middle east, a depiction of the real estate development he wants after palestinians are removed with no right of return. today we're talking with daniel lee, the president of the us middle east project in a former is really government negotiate or maybe recently testified before the un security council on gaza. and israel, daniel, thanks so much for joining us today. but let's just get right down to it. right now
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we've seen largely most of phase one of this negotiated deal and a ceasefire between come off and is real completed with the exchange of prisoners per cap. this at how mazda take, and now we're looking at whether phase 2 has any chance of, of moving forward. what are, what are you, what is your take on this we did have the implementation of phase one, steve very well. the crew 9. they with gaps in that implementation of primarily and factually. this is just to acknowledge the primarily those gaps from things that it is really side committed to and did not deliver. perhaps the most significant, well not in terms of its immediate impact on people's lives, was, is roles, refusal to engage in negotiations over phase 2. they didn't send a team. those were supposed to begin all day 60. it's questionable whether it actually be gone right to this day because,
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and this goes your question of what are the prospects now? a face to face 3. the continuation of this was the post to see the continued his rating, military withdrawal up to and including a spinal withdrawal, the whole troops and a permanent ceasefire. each route has systematically refused that continues to refuse that need putting things into the mix, which would not seeing the agreed framework. one of the fix that we have to take into account is that these ready prime minister, he repeated this, these ready parliament, the kinetic a march. the said, if how much doesn't give up the rest of these radius being held, then they will be held to pay these. how much does give them up, then we're still going to review the war on task. so that's no way to try
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and secure a deal, and the question is, amongst others, will be us itself, applegate, the tubs of the deal, which this administration the trumpet administration. and boy, we called out of taking credits in a cheese, makes it achieving willie. now go along with these route in moving the gold pumps. if i do, i don't think we're going to have the continuation of the ceasefire. we will not get face to is read is trying to get an extension of phase long. i don't think that's going to be achievable, so i mean, not is in a sustainable way. and by the way, if the us negotiate something and then itself withdrawals from what it has endorsed, be like down 2 year old. i think that has implications well beyond because we're in the middle east and the wells where it stay wasn't, you've touched that rail. i want to go right into it. uh,
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president trump tweeted out and a i generated image of himself with b. b, netanyahu the prime minister of israel, sitting in, in swimming trunks in front of you know, towers what they call the riviera of the middle east of a, of a gaza. that has no palestinians in it, a resort. so i'm just as soon as there is as part one, part 2 is president. trump has endorsed the cutting off of all humanitarian aid. the gaza right now, which is real, has stopped trucks from going in which last time i checked was a, a violation of humanitarian law and, and, and a crime against humanity in a, in, in, in the international legal terms. so i guess in my question to you is, here is the, is the end where you have to press united states no longer. basically, as i won't even call him a fair arbiter. but someone trying to be part of a process of reaching an equilibrium. but between both of the sides,
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steve, we have to acknowledge that the previous extra administration under the circumstances of the last year in the hall divided administration, of course itself was interested in those war crimes. he offered not only the weaponry, but the diplomatic political economic, legal counselor tried to at least to these rady side and it's diplomacy was also can speak us late a phase. now let's acknowledge that nothing yahoo looked at the new american political reality and said, will i have to move a little bit if these guys want a ceasefire? i don't want to get a hold the wrong. so that would be good reasons. he thought about how, where have you gotten nothing yahoo to a ceasefire. and i'm not suggesting this administration has a rule. the agenda are on human rights or international oral ballasting. and
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literally she taught from it. but having at least gotten to that seems by it, which is. ringback important and to, to an end to this particular and a very ugly and devastating round of. ready does the administration now want to do a u. turn on that? because there are a couple of things going on. one, as you say, this is a full cry. what is being force displacement to the palestinian population? the idea of the river is a war crime, withholding the humanitarian aid, preventing the access of those supplies. he's one of the reasons he's read is being tried for jet aside. and his route has urgent measures, a ready stipulated by the international court of justice in the south africa case, which israel has ignored. i'm one of the reasons why the international criminal court as issued arrest warrants against nothing yahoo and useful the defense minister. precisely for using salvation as a weapon of war and all the 6. so this is the active list in
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those will crimes. it is also steve, the powering of the most extreme elements inside israel. i think we've seen remodel resilience from the palestinian population. i don't think we're going to see the successful force removal, but the team coverage is that very trend at the moment of such extreme is and you know, let's use the time because it's correct in this respect, a genocidal thing to encourage staff is the worst possible place you could put yourself as a us or any other administration. and then you have the author relevant, which is the grotesque, bizarre, the in, she made an ugly, which is in that they, i generate to video, which we have been hearing seeing, witnessing from the actions all these ratings off of it. and just the other day. and he's ready to tell him his folks that david meant to turn around, and i think it's all, it's also want it's so the gone wrong with that?
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hey, i generated movie, he turned around and said, there's so much room being dawes up the we could have the know be city, academic know what kind of sickness, the stuff, when you talking those tubs. the next thing that going to be telling us is when we see the go to images of solving power, steering is, is that over dosing on those, i mean, what kind of each to manatees, for we just send it to both cities, route and in us, daniel i watched your uh, your 12 minute presentation to the un security council. it was very powerful, but one of the things you did at the beginning was to put a human face on this drama to talk about those captors have been released to a woman. no argument was there, you recognized her and talked about her partner who is still being held. but one of the things that you said, and i want to read it, you said a minute of silence for each of the b bus. children would be appropriate as what a minute of silence for each of more than $18000.00 palestinian children the
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murdered in israel's devastation of gaza. many more under the rubble that silence would extend over 300 hours. that really, really caught my attention. i mean, i'm just wondering, was that heard among those people who were speaking to do they understand the level of trauma that the palestinian sides have endured? in addition to the trauma that i know that that is really is have endured from october 7th. but the scale of response is that resonating from your perspective. i cannot know, steve, it was very important for me to say, absolutely. i want people to hear the personal stories of these is right. it was important to hear uh no one who had been helped. who was in the room, you know how, how resilience, how,
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how she got through can we really not so cool that same knowledge of the quality of humanity. oh, do you connect to, to the palestinians because time and again. well, we have heard through this conflict ease, ease, attempts to have us see ourselves reflected in those these raise a neat, clean attempt, an intent to maintain palestinians as based on the identifiable di, individualize each humanized mass, and that the human eyes ation is the pos to will cracked, that's the pos to no longer seeing these people as children of an equal. got a 40 i out a baseline,
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did i all the things that the the was said they're going to be said elsewhere. landed. it was an attempt to prove i could, i can say that much. but of course the proof of the pudding is indeed. and now we're actually going to now see the continued ability. all these res id enabled by the us to impose the kinds of conditions on palestinians which he never took 3, but also we full for the mileage to full, full cause dash destruction software installation. and so putting a stop to not be holding these res site accountable in ways which you can speak to . leslie has not been held to account last fall. we recently heard president trump address both chambers of congress and it's not the state of the union address, but what presidents do when they come in starting
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a new term and they often have people in the gallery that they refer to to help reinforce elements of their speech and know our kamani was one of his guesses, as, as were other former captives from us were in the gallery. but in this hour and 40 long minute speech, that is the longest speech of any president before a joint convening of congress. he made one comedy says we're getting our hostages back. that's it. were you surprised by the lack of attention, even of those that had been made their way out, had been released or rescued or released by how much not making a bigger deal. and do you think it's because many of these, uh, former captives are actually calling on is real to live by the terms of the agreement that they, that they agree to on the ceasefire deal. so i called speak to the motivations of president trump, as he uh, treated everybody to one hour and 40 minutes of
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a model of what we can say. and it's important that you brought this up to date is we have these rated government telling us how much is the obstacle. we often have the us government and all those telling us how much is the opposite. and i don't want to suggest the last uh, of the most easy going negotiate. they will hold out for things that they can see to include in the deal. i think what we see throughout this is a quite a realistic position on that, which is different from an easy position. what you have these april reality. so many of the families of those still be these ready families are those still being helping us families of those are going to know the site development of those who have been released. but those who come out in the context of these deals and the
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that's how the vast majority of those who have been much the live happy much the overwhelming majority. we have seen those people time and again take to the squares, and the towns always route to tell us that the obstacle to a g o z was sabotaging dispute. not at yahoo and he's hedge. you have one of the models of someone's still being a novice gaps. i designed out a son. tom is soon still to be alive in dawson saying, just the other day that these ready prime minister has sent a space delegation to hold site tools in order to intentionally sabotage the prospects of continuing to cease fire. and with the intention of blaming. how much? so those people are in a unique position, but they over months and months when these, right, and he's kept setting telling, go around the world, tell them, well, you have to put pressure on how much through those months they reach the conclusion
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. and they've reached that conclusion because the evidence became overwhelming over time. the prime minister. nothing y'all, for his own personal, political, legal, and ideological, let's not forget that there's not an ideal richie here, right? considerations is preventing this from happening. is the imperative of maintaining and completing the sci fi, the release of all these ratings, your partner included the exchange of prisoners, the fullest rating, military withdrawal, the surging of humanitarian assistance, which should never have been prevented. that requires the parties to implement that commitments. it will require the withheld palestinian prison to release to be made good on. it requires the role of the guarantors. a really good reason to feel that this could collapse and there is good reason to fear a resumption of those tragedies and in particular
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a possible renewed attempt to permanently de populate the north gauze. is it realistic to suggest that the air a plan to put forward a rebuilding plan for northern gauze or is it is a legitimate and reasonable alternative to the population? and if you do the populate, northern guys are weird of those people go so far. so c, as, as you know, when it comes to alternatives and we should never be talking about the need for an alternative to the population to force displacement because that's a crime. we should never have top is conversation. but here we all, we all have a conversation of the out of some it was input including out very clearly uh, both the, some granular details as well. but what are the phases how each part of dawson could be constructed? well that would require they put some numbers on that,
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but they made the point. these were important points to make. the eddie force displacement is absolutely unacceptable. that one has to do the west bank and gaza, the west bank as well. there was now, oh, there was now over 40000 being displaced and nothing yahoo proudly as such a good night. st connected speech. this is the largest is right you minute trip ration in the west bank states. the taking of the west bank in 1967. so you do have an alternative. what you also have is the us president who may not return to it, but that's why he hasn't worked it back. and who is thoughtful with this displacement. you have these rated government elements of which have been very clear that that, that overall goal is to finish the job back need to be cleansing, policy gets we want to do a history class. but while alice being used in gaza,
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living in refugee camps in the past, i just because of previous displacements, the not the previous rounds of estimates, cleansing the danger. i would suggest in that combination of extremely most of environment created by the us. i'm extremely radical. i do logical inbox is or is it east? israel does resume its assault on golf. i think there's good reason to do that. in the knowles, there would be be a declared intent of permanent be taking the gaza as the price policy use it. this would be these ready positions, right? you would pay for october 7th. and then if you push palestinians into a central and southern gaza, you have an even more crowded, impossible environment, not to be seen as a pre cast to pushing about the box. right? is really important history. we've seen the palestinians, understand what displacement means. we've seen that resilience. we've seen the surrounding countries st. and if they have a right to return any where they have
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a right to tons of their homes, this is me now east side as well, but they're not coming here. by the way, if you want to turn jordan and egypt into resistance theories aside and go about doing it. and there's a real question. whether inside does raise the sides, we're distributions not around how well we should treat the palestinians. but around how far a week ago, well, the reserves show up like right, and again, will be calling me survive. so i'm not sure is read is capable of sustaining this when it is setting itself up. as a revisionist power that threatens stability across the region, right? and this isn't a region that china easily accessed by the end of the yeah, daniel, i just got a minute left in his powerful discussion. but i want to ask you about whether is real is all on board with this or their weaknesses inside is real. that we should be aware of as this onslaught is being threatened again as your you see the piece deal, the cease fire deal, i should say hanging by a thread. what are the things on the in a minute if we can. yeah,
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and that's important to point out because inside these route, the central gravity, of course, has been this issue around these ladies helping us answer the question. the, this is no, nothing you always priorities. so when you see people mobilize is primarily around that. but i think it speaks to a deep in the lives of a social contract having been broken in the wild type of service was handled. we've had his rated commission of inquiry by the different military organ numbers. and the political actual, as b is rate political system has not yet turned around and said, there's a deeper problem here of root cause you and i remember steve when he came to asking the questions in america about the roswell congress commission to new rock will study group and not look to close, the conversation about root causes isn't happening, but the ability of society to sustain this also, i think, is, is beginning to reach its crashing point. right. fascinating. well, daniel lee, the president of the us middle east project,
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i always appreciate your candor and for you being with us today. thank you so much . i it is so good to be what you say. so what's the bottom line? the fear that my guess, daniel levy expressed in his testimony before the un security council, that the future of guys that will be defined by a 0 sum approach is extremely important. is that framing has already taken hold of the highest levels of us government backing is real. what this means is that the future of gauze is now dictated by arrows who see a future with kaiser with palestinians, but with many of the governance issues and resolved. and on the other side is real and the current press, united states seeing most of gaza permanently be populated by the palestinians. now living there, they're not seeing a future where both is real. east and palestinians are both in these lands co existing. the story of israel and gauze of these last 18 months has been tragic, one of horrors on both sides and of now the annihilation of not hum us, but rather of palestinian schools. hospital shops, community centers,
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indiscriminate killing, a palestinians, so many of whom are innocent men, women, and children, and the solutions to the crisis. now, at the end, the phase one of the agreement and efforts to move to phase 2 are incredibly fragile. and in my view, i'm likely to take hold mostly because those with the guns and bombs want to keep shooting them and dropping them. the meta story here is about the 0 some outcome. levy worries about the outcome, potentially with 0 guidance in gaza. and that's the bottom line, the what kind of those governing body is choosing, i mean, lead up full kind of them survived to replace, drops them through the as prime minister, but it's happening just as the nation's faces and unprecedented challenge prevents neva and places to alex so what
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