devastating us a raise on tokyo. each firestone on a densely populated area of wooden and paper houses by sunrise more than a $100000.00 people, but that 70 years later, those who survived seek recognition and compensation for the event that defines their lights only to find themselves still cost aside. witness paper sitting on a just eat a civilian. some of the hundreds killed in syria won't government forces. bible fights is loyal to that opposed asset ratio. president of fed, i'll shut off promises, accountability for anyone. attracting civilians, the un envoy expresses. so what's the risk of escalation? this is inside the

hello. welcome to the program. i'm adrian sending an hundreds killed in syria including civilians. government forces and fights is loyal to us to president bush on either side, the west violence since the regime was toppled in december. the spiral began with attracts on government forces in a former assad stronghold with more people killed. when reinforcements moved in, president offered the i'll shut off, has won the anyone found to have killed civilians will be held accountable, confused if it imposed. and i've talked to you, i've talked to some job along the mediterranean coast, the you and special envoy, petterson, has called for restraint and an end. anything that could escalate and threaten what he called a credible and inclusive political transition. so how serious is the situation come to violence be contained, and what's the threat? does it present to the new government will discuss, hold up, i don't guess shortly, but 1st, a report from wilson. this out of gunfire and bloodshed on the streets of series.

the tax on security for members of the l y community target hundreds kills government security forces fighters loyal to the former regime and civilians in a country struggling to find peace. after 14 years of civil war, the violence is being described as the most serious crisis facing the new administration. since bossard on his side was ousted in december, it's centered on the mediterranean coast, a strong hold of the like minority to which the assad family blogs sent upon without help before the new bonnet. we will continue to pursue the remnants of the fulton regime. those who refused to continue their oppression and tyranny, those who committed crimes against the people and those who seek to undermine security and civil peace. we will bring them to see a court in em to see by the new government allowed members of the military and civil servants to remain in their jobs,

but not those suspected of atrocities during the war or opponents of the new government. security. reinforcements have been deployed to the area of the this convo will support our brothers in the general security directory on the syrian coast. we left the level to support our brothers on the syrian coast. any group that operates outside the law will be dealt with with an iron fist. members of the low it community fighters and their families have taken shelter. it rushes him air base in the port city of la talk you the president should have said any reprisals against civilians by government forces will be punished. what's the highest level of his job and said he then those who attack on um civilians and punish people for the crimes of others will be held accountable. people living on the coast in the conflict areas. a part of our responsibility is duty to protect them and save them from the evils of the gangs of the fulton regime. elsewhere in syria, beckers of the government in damascus held demonstrations,

wasting their support in their mouth. notice that the government and the revolution without hearts and souls, and we call on it to strike with an on 1st. this time forgiveness has ended. the violence has prompted international concern, u. n. n. void gear, peterson called for immediate restraint and urged all parties to protect civilians in accordance with the international law. wilson dies ard elda 0 for inside story. well, before we bring it out, panel, let's just show you where all of this has been happening. the fighting has been taking place in the port cities of attack here on top twos on the mediterranean coast bottles of also centered around job law and cutoff to the. so let's bring it, i guess from paris were joined by marie for us via a senior advisor at the european institute of peace. she has over the decade of experience research and conflicts in the middle east from istanbul,

but joined by i'm across the executive director of the on center for strategic studies. he focuses on economic development and local governments. and engage an type is in southern took you, is him couple of a professor of conflict resolution, george mason university. she's also the full, the deputy head of the serial negotiation commission. i'm to pause in the geneva peaceful welcome to you all my read. let's start with you how dangerous a moment is this for syria? does it show that the new government of damascus is struggling to consolidate its grip on power? what is the test? what is happening at the moment? and the lot depends on how the government will be able to respond to this challenge . the 1st one is that there is not enough security forces to cover all the country when you're traveling around. so you don't see a check points. you see very few of security forces, so that's a 1st issue to respond to the kind of

a incidents that spot the volumes that have been happening this past days. and the 2nd issue is that there is a view, a need for full reconciliation efforts for without syria involving older polities involving old historians in the local level to come to a closer to the terrible crimes that took place during the war. and even before under the shorter side, a process of pacing reconciliation, you'll be the substance of peace and reconciliation dialogue and also a full process that can guarantee accountability for the past crimes. because they have intentions between different groups that suffer during the conflict. and this is also a factor in the industry and pensions and the retardation that can happened when the finance incident breakouts. i'm a what fred does this finance close to the new government in siri and of course,

but the yet to be announced transitional one. well, i mean, this is another challenge that is facing the current government and i believe it was an expected one. it was, it was most potent uh, it was not expected to happen at this moment of time. but uh, obviously the security of securing the territory, monopolizing watkins disarming. different numbers of societies that continue to have heavy weaponry, has been the number one agenda of the new government seems. it took office in on december 8th since the collapse of the former regime and the liberation of syria. the number one priority has been to monopolize what comes in the hands of the state and to secure a different pockets of insecure decent functions. so it is a challenge of. ready so far it seems that things are handled correctly because

um, although many violations of taking place, but as a state continues to correct and continues to a college of those mistakes, i acknowledge that there will be accountability to anyone who violates human rights and violates the security of civilians that should not be entangled. goodness. uh, uh, in this process. uh so far it is a challenges secuity challenge. uh, but so far the insurgency or if i may quote the remnants or not from a genius or not one group. and that makes it a low risk um, challenging us us and do agree with what you've heard so far. is this an isolated blip in serious transition to the beginning perhaps of something more problematic for the transitional government? i need to start seeing that violence. i've agreed to be very

serious, even if one person escaped, that is one person to win. so this acts goes against our principles and values for which we do this treats 14 years ago against the said oppressive regime. so we need to solve this problem as soon as possible. so how does this problem get? gets salted at you? i just want to bring up a, a, something that you treat it on on x. you said what a shame our opposition colleague, who was with us from the beginning of the revolution had her brothers executed in the field. is this the morality of our revolution? you said, what's the difference between us and asset, please stop this killing immediately. we want to build a state of the we are with you and will not remain decided what we referring to the un. what exactly did you mean?

first of all the i just want to hit here to make sure that none of the lights are loyalist. we have so many of i would go to each that i liked, and there are 2 little board interested and they've been, has, has been together for this 14 years. now. there is was think we believe that it started the dots from the lawyers, pushed by many outside exposures. and we need to make sure that we have a problem with the spoilers who they don't want syria to be saved. but that's degenerated into much why the spread of flashes. insight is of violence. like what we did see in the last 2 days involving mixture of pretty g loyalties. ok, members from the seat in august, of course we need there is the criminal lawyers, docs, and criminal is on one side. but also we have a government government and elements in the state, and i was innocent people,

an inhabitant of the cost, the if he has on there on the other side. we need to be careful here, please. we need all the effort to ask me about what can we do? we need all the efforts. and we know that it's been made at the highest level from our government in order to immediately stop the violence of this and the traitors, and bring them to justice as soon as possible. also, we've been in contact. who's both the authorities, as well as the shipping society, google, and the religious because though they are working hard on the ground in order to cause the situations. so we need a efforts to get there to stop this. if we don't stop the sick in his him and this violence, we can not have the bees we want for our celia. so we need to support our government support the civilians and we need to work all of us in one team. i gave

the lawyers who are been bushed by the, had been really pushed by the spoilers from the outside, who they don't want the best for our celia. how about i sort of, you know, being in agreement, the inter and president of my to, i'll shut out as yet to meet with the senior. all the lights give me just see if it gets confir rates to other minority groups. despite plunging to run the country in an inclusive way, a political dialogue, being the key to unity. why do you think he hasn't done that? would otherwise be part of the transitional government that will be announced and coming weeks i totally a 100 percent of the with my colleague in the force and this is a challenge. ready time for our people, and this is a time for the leaders to come up for leadership to show in the leads and the different figures. influencers, who can calm things down, who can really speak the mind to, to uh,

to people. and to make sure that we can get through this challenging time to another phase where all people are included. i are not aware of the, you know, speculation and speculation or the particular issues in terms of the upcoming governments. but i certainly believe that in the, an inclusive participatory governance will. and that includes otherwise, of course, that includes all components, all syrians, per se, all citizens of syria to feel an equal share. and perhaps this is one of the underlying issues. and this specific tension is that there has been a feeling of a victimization of an entire community and community that has lost jobs that does not have um, enjoys working in them as much as not have the asperger's supporting them. and unfortunately the because of transitional justice has not started quickly enough at

least to catch the. ready perpetrators of the crimes of the past. tensions were high and you know, for both sides trenches were very high. add to that on the employment after that poverty after that. a feeling that they have not met the government, that there is no discourse or narrative that has approached different communities. you see all the way communities like many other syrians don't have a higher id in there really just structure and there is no me is you know, we. ready just otherwise the council that was recently and now let's thing on social media. uh, it's it's, it's very difficult to to rain. but there are certainty wise men and women who are influencers, war intellectuals who lead those communities that need to be spoken to as interlocutors, as people of wisdom and uh, who are nationalistic or loved their country,

like everybody else. and we can build a bridge is definitely, i mean, our institution and many others have conducted workshops and by laws in with the communities. i would say all citizens of the coastal areas to make sure that we have some bridges of understanding that we know each other. we know exactly that. those communities are syrians number one and they deserve to be fully protected and fully given the opportunities of a new life. and the criminals have to be taught. and so we don't call the criminals . i. ready it's or send me or, or any other sect we call them criminals. and that's, i think that's a term that the government needs to begin using. and that's the term that we need to look at them as criminals who are using local communities as hostages. and that . ready those communities are serious and they deserve a better future. so i certainly believe that only and inclusive of syria and

government will be sustainable perhaps in the near future is may not, unfortunately, but i certainly hope that isn't correct itself as we move forward. and that the jobs will be provided uh, hopefully even by the private. so i'm sorry, i'm sorry to tell me. i'm sorry to interrupt you. i'm up that's in the spring and marie, who i'm sure will want to comment on, on what she said, mary, despite ins, assurances but so they would be safety out of by community in places like real homes and attract yesterday that they've been subjected to, to violence attacks and to be able to throw a bushel i'll aside how has a, as, as i'm a said that been victimized. all that concerns. violet. i mean, it's a, it's, it's a bit mixed. and also the, the situation is differentiated in the home phone in like a wizard, not actually last month. and i spoke to many representatives of the city society there. and he's was saying it's very important to stress the knuckle,

otherwise swear, a supporters of a sudden and when speaking to otherwise the netflix. yeah. and the where a supportive of the new governments, the west, 40 of us, my, the shut off the main concern was about the men who had been dismissed from the security forces. and that's part of the issue today because this man has been laid off and they don't have salaries anymore. they cannot provide resources to their families. and they are easy to hire to do anything because they need money. so that's one of the issues. the other issue is addressing the concerns of the other white population for afraid of being um, of being persecuted in. that's actually when you speak to people. and when you try to didn't do this here. it's mostly like anticipation and, and rumors the here on social media because that's another problems. there are no reliable media and started on right now. so people go on social media with rumors and these information spread. but their fuel was not realized until this recent

days. and there were not many attacks in halls in the center of the country. that's the difference. the secondary intentions are very high, and crimes are happening, a routine lead targeting values groups of the, of the population. and so that's very important to address this information. rumors to creating and again, to start into a community dialogue, to ease tensions between different groups, the head of a hook do you and, and voice says he's alarmed by the violence you officials are called for restraint . a peaceful resolution. iran says that it's concerned about syria's vote a tile security situation. the gulf cooperation council has condemned the violence which attained it says at the stabilizing serial. what role is that for the international community now in stopping this bond is, or is it an internal siri? and massa is the international community less interested in syria. now that's a science has gone, have geo political factors shifted to such an extent that syria is being left to

sort itself out. yes, it says i just want to ensure that the older brother and sister in the course, the area like everywhere as an important component of the student population. and so we don't want to exclude them at all. stepped back to us as the international community. i knew that on very concerned, especially the national community care about shit and they don't want to have except periods insights is yeah, i think now the most important things for our government to get to that. they'd like to be given the big line to get onto the former. i said elements to get update on. and so then we can not, you was they can not use that in this, in population as a human should by hiding them hiding in the, with the cost is down and villages it is an acceptable and do the results in high

goal of collab jordan mission and then you guys have to, we need to close to 2 and 4, and we confirmed that there is lots okayed speech on the social media. this is betty damaging for our peace and based building effort. they can not, we need to stop immediately. the page speech and we ask this boilers to stop playing with the lights of seated people and the are really getting on the are you still further kidding, as well as vitamins and what's required to date is that wisdom is stopping the blood should. and this is what we can do with the help of the nation community. i don't think everyone in board a going to been with the maximum punishment, but according to the system and glue, we did start this little pollution. we have values, we have ethics, and we need to continue all those lawyers. we know that they want the destruction

of our studio and we need to have the wisdom and not to be like them. we are pollution of the syrian people and we need to keep adult that the other syrians. it is important now to use that wisdom. i think yesterday the speech of our president was very clear. and hopefully to the day the motor we're getting back also to where we want we want peace, we want a security for everybody. and we want to keep the, we know that every one to the we should, the pain, we have the pain and with fatigues for more. so please, everyone from the international community should help us and support us in this efforts. we cannot leave the spoiler destroying. oh, shoot, i'm a, what about russia and israel, a number of people, including former members of the, the asset, the other side, government sort shelter of the russian advice and in

a lot talk, what will russia, what to get involved in keeping the paste and this and this coastal region around that space is what, what we're rushes, a role in the country be going forward. and a israel also has forces in the country cultural rates or international law. is there any likelihood of israel getting more involved if this finance isn't contained? i mean i, i think a one of the main reserves. ready because of what's happening or those wire eaters . ready as or they like and enjoy and center wise. such events unfortunately is right. and you're on and for the fraud to say anything is very hypocritical of themselves. but what we are telling what we're facing is syria today is the increased incursion, an occupation by these really forces to the cell. but as well as their intervention and in the domestic politics, i'm in supporting the allegedly supporting tools or otherwise,

or curbs. any of that, i think the only guarantor for serious stability is a strong state of that includes everyone without the intervention of regional actors, i think is really that has a lot in terms of it's intervention. a lot of influence in this and may even have hands, i mean, god knows, but at least the indicators and from their own statements that they are saying that they will intervene to protect them. uh, it proves that they, they have a lot of sticks in this. so the yes i mean is really, is a main challenge and syria is week today is unable to respond and we always seek out our friends of in the diplomatic communities to at least ask and requests of israel to stream and to uh, to back off and to, to stay away from spoiling local stability because this costs lives. okay,

this is not a joke. is this not something to met. ready with uh it once it starts and spirals and uh its, and. ready and it that is reached as far, but it still contain the bullet and still uh, we can still make sure that it goes in the right direction. oh, i'm sorry to cut you short, but the time is against us. money, of course, as a disappear. but as people didn't always have seeing now what we saw in iraq with the country is a wash with weapons and with people who know how to use the water. what are the challenges here going forward? well, 1st of all, to gather all the weapons to collect them and make sure that the weapons are under me under the control of the states. that's the 1st thing. the 2nd thing is, and sure that these men who have been demobilized, either go back to distribute society or if they meet the trust old can be integrated into new forces, the new army for the country so that they are not going for hired. so i can say and

shoot you a violent incidents. that's the 1st. and the 2nd thing is that all of why it's clear against us uh, should be empowered and should be part of these uh, into the new govern menu authorities. the local authorities at the local level and should be thoughts of the, of the forces that reveals the countries and a 3rd, a accountability efforts for the events that took place this past days, all the perpetrators from all side to be the comfortable for cheating civilians. and there should be a transferring process for accountability and justice. it should be clear to people how people have been held accountable under which criteria the names and everything, so that they can get everyone the feeling of justice and report about a minute and a half left. i'll give the final word to you, you've, you've said it several times during the program but, but what would be your message now to the, the otherwise,

i'm not all the white communities in the coastal regions and to the world. anxious to be looking on a after this interruption of violence. the 1st my salute to the civil society of celia. they've been for a few days. they didn't sleep, been working on stevens a piece and they've been sending the good message that otherwise, i'm not, i wouldn't, you know, means they are part of our society and especially the of positions cbs us revisions . and now this is the time to make sure that civil society bought the ship with the government working together. we need to have one army, you have one government, and we need to, we can not at a 4 any a separate. the tools should be with us because of the drugs which be with us, syria is not either. syria is not like any other country. we've been always

together muslim christian otherwise everybody. so we can not. this is o d n a. let's keep it together. we need to be strong, we need to be together. we need to start with the transition of justice immediately, which would government is still think about it all the time. this is the time wisdom, wisdom, wisdom. we need to be together to stop the security and isn't in our country. and that's why we must end the discussion today. thanks to you all very for us the. i'm a cough and hen couple us. i'm thank you for watching. you can see the program again at any time by go into the websites of elder 0 dot com for further discussion, join us on our facebook page. you'll find that at facebook dot com forward slash h a inside story at ega. during the conversation on the x, i'll handle that are at a j inside story for me, adrian said again, the same here. thanks for being with us. we'll see you again. bye for now. the

of 12 to 14 years of the caustic ceiling is a hot embrace and this the, the, the challenge is the main. what is the name of the information? people here look to the future with the hope of the building they worked on the country. people on the 2nd supposed to do to this average total of the cd that initially i, they were sitting on out to 0. when did use in terms decrease the fact tag in the balance. he's going f as in median in a way that's unprecedented. the narrative is being rewritten, he's choosing to amplify when voices of silence agendas prevailed. attacks on the press on x, the part of a broader effort to suppress the story. systemic emissions lean control. what has this discussion looked like? you know, right wing media circles again, assistance being labeled with the situation. the listening post, decoding the media on houses era not in america is a region of wonder i'm joy tragedy and yes of violet. but it doesn't matter where

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the knowledge is the width of the hello. i'm fully batch of window high with the headlines on alger 0. israel is withholding aid from guys for an 8th street. they ended sources continue to attack palestinians in this trip. at least 2 people have been killed in a strike on guys a cities through j. a neighborhood. meanwhile, is really negotiate as a set to travel to kata on monday. as mediators try to revive cease 5 talks, die cup was only for some han us in southern gaza with palestinians a desperate for the 2nd phase of a ceasefire. to begin. as we understand that.