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this is open the genocide as language to the conflicts rise and diplomacy is tested . what is it and trying to write, what is from worship to you? frame not new frame to us upfront. tickles the big issue on the slide. endo hobbies. the top stories on challenges era. china has announced tariffs on us goods will be raised from 84 percent to 125 percent. the mood move comes a day off to washington, clarified that it's types on imports from china. now set at 145 percent, un trade agencies as the tit for tat levies could shrink the global economy by up to 7 percent. but developing nations west affected quite a trick or treating who has more from badging. we've had this feverish tit for tat
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terrace game played between aging and washington since the trip administration, employers, the so for the operation day tax last week. and now it seems aging is attempting to put an end to that with this latest retailer retaliation. it's raising cash some all us goods from 84 percent, 125 percent. however, it says because of this high number, essentially it says it means the market acceptance for o. u. s. goods coming into china is no longer open. so china will just no longer accept any us goods. and if, if the us continues to increase tabs in chinese goods, aging says it will simply ignore it. this is where i was located on the tax across garza or preventing doses of the polio vaccine from entering the strip doctors, a warning of a search and some highly contagious virus which was eradicated in the region 25 years ago. between the claims board as unrelentingly as rarely forming hundreds of thousands of children was missing. the central dose is hardly
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a re emerged and gone. so last year, a quarter of a century after it was eradicated, is where the attacks across gauze i have hills, at least 13 palestinians on friday. yeah, the at all. that's the mother of a young girl who died often as strike hits the home in the east of gauze as stacy and han eunice in the south. and now a young girl was pulled in light from the rustle of her bomb down home. as were in the south, the smoke rising from is randy attacks in the rough? how does the military intelligence was of us full naval officers and don't says in israel have joined to cool by air force was of us to end the fighting and gaza, to save the remaining captives and the 1000, mostly with tubs published a last around 1st day. condemning the continuing conflict of southern political and personal interests. the notary announced its intention to dismiss active apples was of us to sign the document from ins. have benjamin,
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that's me all here says it contains unforgivable statements. you advise yet? so i've noticed, as strikes on who's the controlled areas in yemen, hit pumps of the sun out area. who's the meta abdul malik? i'll who fee, especially to strengthen the groups, move to capabilities and intensify attacks and response. ukraine's allies have pads just shy of $24000000000.00 us dollars. of new military support for keith. nato is hosting the 27th ukraine defense contact group meeting in brussels. u. k. defend secretary. john haley says they figure a is a record, boost and notes you funding for ukraine. pull today, will strengthen ukrainian troops in the close fight, the strikes and our industrial links with ukraine, and boost u. k. british businesses. because we all know here the defense can be an engine for growth, reinforcing our national security and reinforcing our economic growth. final
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riley's have taken place in ecuador ahead of sunday's run of presidential election, centralized incumbent president, daniel, nebraska, and left. when tylen jot louisa gonzales and my neck and neck as they close the campaigns. the race is dominated by an economy on the brink of collapse, as well as a drug field security crisis. for myself, creating products indian circle has moved out of the official residence a week after his impeachment, crowns of support. his opponents were on the streets as he made his way to his private home southcourt. his constitutional court removed june from office off to he attempted to declare martial in december. those uh you'll headlines. i'll be back with another news update here on out is era that's of to the bottom line to stay with us. if you count the
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a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question with israel's ongoing war on gaza, us negotiations with the ron and trump's upcoming visit to the region. does america have a grand vision for the middle east? let's get to the bottom line. the us president donald trump, has now firmly submitted his reputation as a major disruptor, and we're not just talking about the tear ups and the economy and global trade in the middle east. he's floated the idea of expelling all 2000000 palestinians from the gaza strip. and building a wrench, riviera project in its place. he pushed for a cease fire, but when israel decided to break it and resume the war, he supported that as well. and then double down on the us war against the m. and now he's pushing for negotiations to end the stalemate between t,
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ron and washington, which he exacerbated in his 1st term when he tore up the deal that was already in place. soon he's going to be heading to the gulf states, the drum up investment for the united states, among other priorities. so what can we make of the trump doctrine for the region today we're talking with steven cook, senior fellow at the council on foreign relations and author of the end of ambition . america is past, present, and future in the middle east. even thank you so much for helping to come, you know, make sense of all the different current. so they're going on right now in the middle east and i think president trump is planning a trip over to them, at least to kind of drum up business and investment into the united states. right. let me just ask you for that presidential trip to be successful. i'm just asking from a white house perspective, right? what are the things they have to get right? what does this mean? what's possible, given all the instability in the region right now? i think they actually are the president's plan trip to saturday. been caught there in you. a is now on the agenda. that is easier than it's been for his predecessors
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because the president is mostly interested in walking away from those meetings with leaders. we have commitments from them to invest in the united states or commitments and then to buy us weapons for there will be discussions about difficulties in yemen and us military operations against the. i mean there will be discussions about gaza. there will be discussions about direct or indirect negotiations with the iranians, but what really the president wants in keeping with his make america great. america 1st is commitments from world leaders to say we're investing a trillion dollars in the united states. so that's what he most wants. that's what he most wants. how badly does he want to discuss costs? i don't think he wants to discuss cost at all. right. uh, i think that the administration has thrown it support behind the as really government. although i think the behind the scenes, there are some breaks on these roads. i think there are some signals from the administration that these rows are getting a long lease, but they're gonna have to wrap this up as soon as they even let me ask you something i thought i would never see before,
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which is really prime minister netanyahu, who came to washington and he would, we had a robust agenda locked talk. and it's, it's a one of the only time to actually think it's the only the 2nd time that a head of government meeting with the press united states didn't get a press conference big. they didn't line press conference that happened with a zaleski of ukraine. but were you surprised by that? is that a sign that there is tension in the body ship? i don't know whether it's a sign of attention that exists, but there is definitely tension and there was tension beforehand. i think that the people who bought that president trump and problem to send it to you all were 2 peas in a pod, weren't really understanding what we're going, what was going on and didn't look very closely at what happened during trump's 1st term in office, where he was concerned that nothing else would undermine him at every turn, and in fact, nothing now did try to undermine the president. and through the series of elections is really elections that happen from the time president trump took office until he left office. president trump was not rooting for benjamin netanyahu to become the
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prime minister. there is a trust deficit between those 2 gentlemen, but i want to, you know, before you in shipping. i mean one of the other elements out there is right now is real. isn't a lot, there's a lot of syria there and you know, there, there's sort of of expansion a lot of things, but serious very much on people's minds in, in part of the regional dynamic there. and so turkey and erewhon is playing into this. i want to play a little clip for you and get your reaction to it. have a present from commenting for a minute about turkey and is real. let's listen to president trump. any problem that you have with turkey. i think i can. so i mean as long as you're reasonable, you have to be reasonable, we have to be reasonable we, we have to be reasonable. i love that line, we have to be reasonable. and we kind of like say we don't need conflicts here in there. but surfacing the turkey is real divide, you know, probably over syria, but maybe over guys and maybe over other issues of a variety. but i mean it, i'd love our audience to understand a little bit more of the recipe of that tension. yeah. first,
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before we get that jared questionnaire, his book about his time in the white house is very, very clear about the relationship between president trump and primitive turned it to now there was a lot of tension, significant trust deputy now onto the syria. look for the israel, you since october 7th, have about to change the security environment around them. and not a lot of people took them at face value. but everything that they've done since then should underline the fact that they were very, very serious about it. and that's why they're doing the kinds of things that they've been doing in, in syria, from their perspective. taking and holding territory, keeping the turks out as best as possible from here, which they regard turkey. it was a 2 countries at once, had very good working relations, robust economic relationships, some of which still continues, but use relatives. and the turks have been at loggerheads per year. is over guys, over in turkey, support for how much over a president aired one's rhetoric about prime district. it's now being
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a nazi. there are all kinds of things that divide those 2 countries and what these rallies have wanted to prevent is for the turkeys to that, for the turkish government, to establish a military presence in syria. and that's why they've been bombing the syrian air. but since they've destroyed most of the remnants of the offsetting military, but now they're in a boat where they don't want to allow a country which is from their perspective, an enemy state in all but name to place itself in a position where they could do harm to israel, now president trump, unlike his relationship with prime minister, nothing else has a very good personal relationship with turkey, the president, richard, type baird, one. and after the as well as in this most recent round of air strikes on searing the air bases. the turks recognize that this was a very,
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very big deal for the israelites and have quietly sought de escalation. these rows have also sought de escalation a recent days. we've heard that the turkish foreign minister is engaged in talks with is rarely about the escalation mechanism in syria. the eyes, their value on it, to have a very good relationship with turkey and is, are, are also engage in efforts to de escalate. but president, trump is very, very important because he has such a good working relationship with president are the ones that he's really the key to de escalate here. and these rows are actually afraid of truck. we talked about the limits of ambition for the united states in my book. what are the limits of ambition for benjamin netanyahu and is there are all kinds of traps in what these relishing to him. but let me just say that i agree. i mean, setting aside the moral questions of which there are many, many more of my team, i want to make sure that as on the it wasn't a better geostrategic position today. then it wasn't october 6, 2023 the day before the almost a mouse has been greatly weakened, has block greatly weakened,
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unable to muster the forces to help defend the outside regime. last december, iran has lots of damage to it. to air defense systems, it's missile production capability, so they're much more careful about what they're doing. there are stories about the rocky militias negotiating to lay down their arms because they've been intimidated by both the us for some differences as well as, as rarely for someone setting aside. all of that in the is really value to change the security environment they have or are at risk of the overreach. well, these airstrikes, uh, in the gods are recently they've killed 50 people. sure. it got one of the commanders, the fuel commanders from us. but to what end, it was a tactical victory. but how does that bring this conflict with it? how do these roles get victory from that? by killing more people? this, it doesn't make any sense. but what you're seeing, the new is really chief of staff in the new is really defense minister is a much, much harder of mine on gauze in, in the. and there is clearly
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a desire here to use parts of them for victory, which in no way shape or form is going to bring this to an end in a way that's gonna be good for everybody. syria shore is riley's wanna take territory. they're backing the, they're in the, the, it is zone that the un controlled for all of those years. but now they're saying they're going to stay there in preparatory. they're going to occupy more land of another arab country. this is not a recipe with the insurance company. in his par lance, the reasonableness, i think he means by reasonableness is we understand your security concerns. why are you 45 miles from damascus? why are you undertaking airstrikes and damascus during the day? you can have a buffer zone. you can have good relations with andrews there, but you don't need to occupied territory in perpetuity. we're there are ways in which you can work with regional actors to ensure that the new regime ensure is not threatening to his route. but if you're going to occupied territory,
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if you're going to undertake airstrikes against syrians it anywhere you're only going to inflame tensions. similarly, in lebanon, united states has given the right to enforce the ceasefire in forces seized by using arms. but for the 1st time in what 40 years healey brothers have a government in lebanon, and that is willing to play ball with that. and the more that these rows take this aggressive action, he gets his ball to enforce the ceasefire. it gives political ammunition for his blog, undermine a good thing that these roads have going in bare route right now. this is what i'm talking about over it. and i think whether it's the president or secretary state rubio or the national security advisor or mr. woodcock, have to be saying to prime minister nathan y'all, when he, they're talking to the president with the president means by reasonableness. let me ask you to know when it comes down to you know, the circumstances in gaza now the collapse the very obvious collapse and destination of the ceasefire. what are the incentives to come back to something?
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what incentives this hamas have to release hostages? now are they, you know, is there, is there any leverage in that relationship now or does this real hold all the cards? is your eyes are in a, in a very advantageous position with regard to them us right now, but my sense is, and this is just my spy, you sense is that these rows are calculating that there is of the remaining cost is there is a significant number of who are dead and then the other one is going to be sacrificed for their own strategic goals. and those strategic goals are quote, the victory over how boss. um, i think this is going at a very, very bad direction. and i've been an outlier in washington. what is victory over from us? well, i heard it, you know, when you talk to joseph, say, look. but there's still going to be this 80 ology around. but there's going to be there's, they'll be a lot less of how my spiders and their leaders in order to put this city ology in into operation. but this is where i think this is going and you'll hear it. you start hearing it where the, the new leaders of the idea for talking about what we're going to take territory and we're going to occupied that territory. it's um,
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i think that this is the prelude uh, uh, is riley, re occupation of either parts or all of the concert strip. and that there is a strong pull on the right wing of israel to re settle the gospel strip. and i had said this to the, by the administration and they didn't want to hear it. but i think this is a certainly a direction in which this is going in. you can tell by the reaction of these really right to what president trump said about the united states, only. they don't want the united states to own it, but they do like the idea of their being less than less than, less palestinians in the cost. i don't believe i'm wrong to say that there's been a confidence in the saudi relationship that they had secure. they were getting some where would they, you know, israel, even with guys are going on. they were getting somewhere with trump. and i went to the companies that, as i said, are you sure that you should be so confident? because i see donald trump is a guy who basically flips on everybody. he's close to and i bet you, he'd be interested in doing a deal with a run. and lo and behold,
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there now negotiations, secret negotiations going under under underway with to and how is that hit the region? is this going to be a new dynamic? and i wouldn't even dare say distraction from some of what may be going on a pallet. yeah, let's, let's, it's certainly a distraction from what's going on a past, and i think that's a, undeniably the case. and i think that needs it. i think that's from the is really perspective, that's good for them, but it's not good for them for the united states to be negotiating directly or indirectly with your audience. and this is what those of us who talked to his rose . i spent some time in his role in the fall of 2024 and there were a lot of people were very enthusiastic about the prospect of a donald trump presidency. said she does not have the same kind of any logical affinity for israel, the present. and by and so if see snips a deal, if he thinks there's a possibility for a deal, he's not going to look at your interest with his one. yeah. on it. and exactly, that's his that's is probably not gonna be too cynical about the present, but that's his pathway to a nobel peace pro us. and we all know that the president is interested in the
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accolades of, of the world. i want to discuss an undesirable board and presently decided wouldn't donald trump deserve the nobel peace prize. if he got that kind of, you know, deal with a ron that resolved some of the simmering tensions, it'd be going on between the sunni and the see a world of there. and it just, it just, it just is, is, is a real jump and, and with the shouting use with the everybody's be willing to embrace it. my sense is they would, but what is your, i think that they would as well, but they have sought, better relations with the iranians. cause of the things that have happened in washington, whether it is with j. c pro. and this is a bi partisan, they're, they're angry at both democrats and republicans. the jc po i, they felt did not cover their interest. president trump, in the summer of 2019, after the iranians attacked uptake inquiries, did nothing. so the saudis named rogers came to the conclusion that for all of the words from washington about being committed to security and stability in the region,
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the united states really was it. and so the best way to secure themselves is undertaking a rep, rosemont, with the iranians, and that's where the chinese came in with the saudis, and the amorites took it upon themselves to seek a rep, rosemont, with uh, the around it. so yeah, these rallies are in a real hard hard spot here because they put all of their eggs in the donald trump basket and he clearly doesn't have that kind of. the sense that biting good about is really square is probably of use of leverage and the questions isn't going to use leverage before this trip to get is real, to wind down or turn the conflict with guys had down a bunch of notches and i think it's raising question about the, the who to use in yemen as well is, is, does that continue on it's, i mean, i think one of the questions is out there is how much we overplay iran control. and also the many interested in having iranian support. but those are the 2 hot spot, rice that would be part of the eco system. and donald trump,
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one over whether he would use is leverage to shut those down, ice as a, as a confidence building the it measure the i would netanyahu cooperate, i suspect on the, i'm in the front. united states will continue. it's military operations as a show forced to the iranians going into these negotiations. that's who's leverage . and when it comes to the use really is there is some thought out there that he has given them a number of weeks to, to, to bring it to an ad. but that doesn't guarantee that these rallies are going to comply. i mean, they are afraid of trump. they have a lot of allies in washington have a and this is existential from their perspective. so they may try to defy trump on, on gaza, which they've done before. look is really perspective a and i think it's why we shared interest. why should we take advice from people who couldn't get it done in a rocking up? got it. and these are terrible analogies. but in a way where they sit and where they look at the world, that is, i think, is really official, done as well as
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a lot of his relatives. that's why we're taking advice from the united states right now. i think was put a break on the as well as with regard to attacking the iranian nuclear program. is there a concern about trump's response to it? i think if the election had gone the other way, they might have already undertaken attacks on around to nuclear program. wow, is there any normalization track between the saudis and israel at this point? where is that bridge completely destroyed? i think it's over. i think it's completely over. and if the saudis are interested in defense packed with united states, they should go for a defense pack with united states. crown prince bomb it been someone himself has said the price is a 2 state solution. i don't see how the crown prince backs away from the obviously to offer it for that. it's one thing when the foreign minister says that the crown prince defacto ruler, future king can defied a foreign minister. but i don't see how the crown prince backs down from the 2 state solution and 70 plus percent of his relatives are now opposed to a 2 state solution. so on with the, i don't see how you put that together. what i do think will happen is we'll go back to some sort of status quo anti before october 7th,
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which is where there were under the table talks between his relatives and saudis, on security issues. some is really business men who carry 3rd party passports. we get special visas to come into the kingdom and vice versa if necessary. but no longer here. we're savvy officials talk about it's not a question of if we normalize, but the question of when we normalize, it's a, it's a much bigger hill to climb. as a result of october 7th, president trump really doesn't give a lot of concern about the middle east. he wants to get out once the america get out, he wants all these pro is to be solved by reasonableness. mm hm. is what we're seeing a pathway not to greater involvement america in these problems, but rather the extraction of america something i mean, i'm just interested in whether or not we're looking at this in the wrong way. no, i think you're absolutely spot on here. i think that if you take president trump and president obama and you strip away the obvious differences in temperament,
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personality, whatever these foreign policies are actually not that different. president obama is j. see? first of all, prison, obama engaged and maximum pressure to get the running to the table to get to the jcp away. that's precisely what president trump wants. he wants to put pressure on the run in to get to an agreement. and what are those agreements for? to bring the united states out of the region, both of them in their own way as have talked about this in a tangling united states from its born adventures in the middle east. this is a lot of continuity between the obama year and the trump era. it just, no one can tell because the totally different totally different personalities. so the other thing that's changing out there, this part of the season is that as the u. s. is becoming more involved, you know, within its own borders and whatnot. europe is changing, as well as it thinks about its interest and uh, french president, emanuel mac cronan sort of standing over. and so he goes down to does what another leader has. and he just recently went down to the frontier between egypt and israel,
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or not israel, palestine and, and was there. and basically talked about this being a crime and also saying that france intends to recognize palestine as a state. uh, probably sometime in june. so i'm interested in whether that is a, a whimper that means nothing, whether it's significant and also all of the discussion about, you know, 2 state solution. you know, is this now become kind of a, a religion that has no traction in the real world anymore. but macro, nonetheless, this last week said this, the 2 state solution is a religion that has no following really. and if it's done, it's over my crone in saying that it, that's meaningful. that if he says we're gonna recognize about palestine, it's meaningful. if the french do it, it wasn't meaningful when the irish did. it wasn't beautiful when the spanish did. it wasn't meaningful when the norwegians did it. but france, which has, which is an important global power, has important relations with israel,
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is an important partner of egypt and saudi arabia, the u. e. if the french do this, what we're talking about a major european country, not a country on the periphery of europe, a major european country and you can expect there's going to be a lot of, it's really not about statehood. it's about positioning that right? oh, i think it's undoubtedly about because i'm not sure what else he could say because for the french president to show up on the border between egypt in gaza and say, look folks, it's never going to happen. and there is really no day after plan and what the more likely outcome is it is really occupational part of or it's not all of the gaza strip is not something that you would want to do to demonstrate your solid already and support with people who suffer as well as sort of pick up the slack for the lack of american leadership on these issues, which is the frontier always, always trying to do. but i think that when global leaders talk about
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a 2 state solution i, it's not helpful. it's a i, i understand why they do it, but it is a religion without reality. let me ask you very quickly about your book, the end of ambition and what you basically argue that americans, every antiquated, outdated, uh, census of the middle east is donald trump fixing that. you know, i'm not nice to everybody in the book and i'm nice to everybody in the book and i think that president trump asked people like me in washington during his 1st term. why do we do what we do? and we couldn't answer him. and that in, in, in the book i tried to talk about why we did what we did. but what i discovered was, what we do in the middle east is based on a bunch of bad assumptions about the power of the united states to transform the region, which is a really bad thing from united states to do when we try to use american power to make the quote unquote good things happen, we tend to fail and so instability, when we have a much clearer idea of what's important to us and how to defend those interests and
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how to prevent bad things from happening. we're much, much more successful and we have better partners, individual counseling, porn relation, senior fellow, steven cook. thank you. this was a fantastic discussion. thanks for your candor and sharing your thoughts today. thanks. the pleasure to be with you as always. so what's the bottom line? the truth is that much of the world is trying to forget the victims of guys, the people over the injustices there with force displacement with ethnic cleansing, and real estate development plans that have no connection to reality. with president donald trumpet, who is one of the key voices affecting palestine future, it's increasingly difficult to discern what is puffery and what is real. is there another way? well, i don't think so any time soon because it would need a gargantuan effort from other world leaders to put something new on the table. not just european, but error of african latin american and asian leaders would have to all come together and become the stakeholders and visionaries of a competing vision. the forces, an alternative to that, pushed by trumping his ally, is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu. that alternative may be the only
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