hello and welcome to "gmt" on bbc world news. i'm stephen sackur. our top stories. not an accident but a terrible crime. after flight mh 17 is apparently blown out of the sky over eastern ukraine, governments around the world demand an immediate investigation. 298 passengers and crew are killed. more than half dutch. as investigators tried to reach the wreckage, ukraine accuses pro russian separatists of downing the plane.

i'm clive live at the airport in amsterdam where flight mh 17 took off yesterday bound for kuala lumpur. as the world know, it didn't make it. what were the circumstances surrounding the crash in i'll have the latest. >> this is the second plane lost this year for malaysian airlines. the whole aviation industry faces questions about the safety of routes over war zones. jamie is here with business and going to focus on what the future holds for malaysian airlines. >> two disasters in one year. the airline will be lucky if it can last 12 months. it's losing $1.5 million. they'll have to decide what to do with its national carriers. a warm welcome to "gmt."

it's noon here in london. it's -- >> we're going to go straight to clive in the airport in amsterdam. >> reporter: yes, hello to you. welcome to the airport in a nation in mourning. two-thirds of those that died on board the flight were from this country. they were dutch nationals. 173 people in all. in the past 30 minutes it's been confirm had the one of those on board who died was a dutch politician. the congressman was on board. also one of the world's four most experts on the aids virus. he was on his way to the international aids conference in melbourne, in australia i can. he also perished. many tributes have been pouring in from colleagues and those

work trying to find a longer term cure for aids from around the world. many the next hour or so we're expecting authorities here to hold a press conference. they may well be talking about plans that are in for the relatives of those that died. any plans that may be in place to fly them to kiev to identify their loved ones and so on. we're also expecting a press conference from the dutch prime minister in the country as well. we know he has been in dutch with vladimir putin in russia throughout the day. we understand it was a tense conversation with the implication being very much from the dutch that perhaps moscow had something to do with what happened yesterday. let's get the latest now from nick. >> the morning after and

chilling tales of the disaster in the conflict. the scene of devastation has also been a battlefield bringing dimension to ongoing crisis. accusations have been flying and emotioning boiling over. international calls grow for thorough investigation. >> we ask all respected governments to participate in this investigation and to support the ukrainian government to bring to justice all these who committed this international crime. this is the crime against humanity. >> the ukrainian government and russian backed separatists opponents have been blaming each other for what happened here. moscow has been deflecting growing pressure for answers.

>> i expressed condolences on behalf of the russian federation. i want to underline this tragedy would not have happened if this land was at peace or at least combat operations had not been resumed. it's obvious the state on who's territory happened bears the responsibility for this. >> a carpet of con dodolences outside. it's thought nine were britains. many on board were heading to a aids conference in australia where they're seeking answers. >> as things stand, this looks less like an accident than a crime. if so, the perpetrators must be brought to justice. >> it is an absolutely a appalling, shocking, horrific incident that's taken place. we have got to get to the bottom of what happened and how this happened. we have some information.

we need to find more information. >> on the ground in eastern ukraine, the pro russian separatists have been pushed back by the government. there's growing western charges of heavier western weaponry reaching them even though moscow denies this. speculation focused on this missile system as the weapon that may have brought down the plane. it's in the ukrainian and russian arsenals. most theories sender on it falling into russian hands. >> it would almost certainly have to be supplied from russia. the smaller parts, systems we've seen in rebel hands in recent months are not capable of reaching that altitude. it would have to be a system that would have to be externally supplied. >> at the crash site, search and investigation is underway. what the impact of this strategy

will be on a crisis that's already engulfed ukraine and the international community is far less clear. >> well this of course is a global tragedy. 173 people died on board that plane. they were from the netherlands. 27 were from australia. 12 from indonesia, nine from the uk. there were germans, belgiums, filipino filipinos, canadians. let's get the latest from kuala lumpur. i suspect the big question for authorities there is why was this plane full of passengers, a commercial flight flying over hot water. >> that's right. that's the question being asked time and time again today. of course after this terrible accident happened, there were

several other airlines in the region that said we've been avoiding that area for a number of months now. what we have heard consistently today, there's been two press conferences so far. the first from the prime minister early this morning at 4:00 a.m. malaysian time. he came out and said this is a terrible accident. everyone is deeply saddened. a great shock. what he insisted was this route was considered safe by the international civil aviation organization. it had been deemed safe. of course according to the association of the airlines as well, 15 out of 16 from that organization have been flying over this particular route in eastern ukraine. we also heard from the transport minister this afternoon. he reiterate had the message. that message has come through time and time again from malaysians today that they were

on flight path that was deemed safe according to the ipa. of course we know that's a dangerous flight path to take. it's all shut off. airlines have come and said they're not taking it. >> is there suggestions that malaysian airlines will try to organize all those relatives of those that died, flights to get to kiev potentially to find out what happened and to identify their loved ones? >> the other thing we heard from the transport minister is they're leaving most major investigations all to ukraine authorities. they said basically the only thing they can reveal is the passenger manifest due to come out. we're going to hear from the prime minister due to address the nation very shortly.

essentially they're saying they can't really do very much from here. the terrible tragedy has occurred in ukraine. ukrainian authorities are going to have to investigate further. what they have done and what was revealed earlier is that there will be a humanitarian mission sent, some 40 staff members from malaysia airlines will go over to comfort the victims of families and so essentially they're saying not so much from here this time around. a very different story from mh 370 which was just in late march. what we've been seeing today shows a different malaysia airlines. okay. live in kuala lumpur, thanks. >> well of course the finger of blame is pointed at pro russian separatists in eastern ukraine. there have been reports in recent days and weeks that heavy weaponry has been moved across

the border. potentially it is one of these pieces of equipment used yesterday to shoot down this mh 17 malaysian airlines flight. let's get the view from moscow. are the russians denying involvement in what happened yesterday? >> russian officials say what we've just heard about mr. putin said if ukrainians side to blame because it was their territory. mr. lavrov, the foreign minister says russia is calling for international and open investigation of what happened. at the same time, commentators here in moscow say there's a lot of questions. they are not ready to jump to the conclusions it was the missile launched by the rebels. we spoke to several military analysts. they're saying that the key point now for investigation is

to examine the remains on the ground. that might point to the direction of what really happened and who launched the missile. if it was a missile. there are lots and lots of questions here. the official line is that it's the ukrainian side who is responsible because it was ukrainian air space. >> sure. but is there a sense as well that perhaps as far as moscow is concerned it is now potentially if they can, time to rain in the separatists in the east and perhaps sever the ties they do have with them? >> well that's definitely the question to ask. many regular people, locals here in moscow for example started to discuss it yesterday after what is really going on there and who is possessing and fighting for

what. there's the huge discussions all over the social networks. definitely the mood as it used to be really i would say pro support of eastern ukraine and rebels. now it's changing a bit. people are asking questions what's going on. what to do with this situation. as i said, the official line is more cautious apart from the fact that russian investigators commented and said it was unusual for them. they are ready to handle the investigation process to the international. before that, they used to deal with such situations themselves. they tend to investigate all catastrophic in soviet union here in moscow. >> that's interesting what you're saying because the

suggestion has always been that vladimir putin's policy in ukraine certainly with crimea and parts of the east that the policy was supported by the majority of russians. are you saying what happened yesterday is giving people pause for thought? >> that's not about the russian -- it's not to inaction of crimea. it's more about the general situation. it's more about why the foreign civilian plane was shot down. to what extent really the two sides are in control of their militants and soldiers. what sort of weapon is in possession of rebels? definitely if you look at the map you see the crash site is really close to the russian border. there's accusations of the

ukrainian side that russia is supplying weapons to the rebels. russia is accusing ukrainian army that it shells russian territory. it's really complicated. yesterday the tragedy triggered the discussion of what's going on. it's definitely food for thought for the russian audience. >> sure. okay. live from moscow, thanks. australia is deeply involved in what happened yesterday in the sense that at least 27 of their nationals died. a number of people on board who perished were on their way to melbourne in australia. they were heading there for international conference on aids, the 20th international aids conference. it has been confirmed in the last hour, one of the delegates was the dutch scientist, one of

the world's foremost experts on the aids virus. he perished this the flight yesterday. let's go to sydney standing by there. first of all, is this still going ahead? >> it is. we've been speaking to organizers in the last up couple of hours. they say to honor the spirits of research and endeavor of those people on the flight, who were on their way to melbourne for the international aids conference, the event will definitely go ahead. there will be some sort of memorial for those people. reports in australia suggest 100 passengers were flying to the city for the conference. organizers haven't given a specific figure. certainly this tragedy so far away in a field in ukraine will cast an almighty poll over this aids conference in victoria.

>> sure. parliament wants to know what's going on. how exhaustive and involved the the investigation will be when it does happen. the tony abbott has been addressing parliament today? >> he has. we've seen prime minister abbott's language get stronger through the day. this morning he addressed the parliament in camry said the russian ambassador was called in to answer stiff australian questions. apparently the ambassador blamed ukraine for the tragedy. in the last few hours, prime minister abbott has given a press conference and rejected russia's explanations for the disaster in ukraine. he went onto say innocent people had been wantedly killed by pro

russian separatists, armed by supplied weapons. mr. abbott is angry and raising rhetoric in this case. >> indeed. many thanks for that. phil mercer live from sydney. some of the answers, maybe not all, some to why this plane fell out of the sky might lie in the wreckage itself spread over a wide area very close to the russian border in eastern ukraine. as we've been hearing, the finger of blame is pointed fairly and squarely at those rebels, russian backed separatists operating in the east. they've been fighting a bloody war with kiev. let's get the latest on the ground from ukraine. david stern is there now. first of all t black boxes, have they been found?

apologies for that. we seem to be problems on the line. i spoke to david in the last hour or so. he made it clear there were rumors perhaps that one of the black boxes had been found and transported to moscow. the rocket launcher used to fire the missile apparently was over the border back to western russia overnight. all these are unconfirmed reports. at the moment it's unclear as to whether both, the two flight boxes on board, have been found. they may provide clues as to what happened. it will be interesting because the fact is the authorities here

at the moment say that flight simply disappear ed from the radar screens at 2:15 local time. there was no may day call, no warning there was a problem. i'll have much more throughout the day. the latest here from the airport in amsterdam. now back to you. >> all right clive. thank you very much indeed for all of that reporting from the airport near amsterdam. so many angles to this story. we'll keep pursuing them of course here on bbc world news. do stay with us. still to come on this program, fierce fighting in gaza. israel presses on with ground offensive and warns it could be widened further. yeah, i'm married. does it matter?

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in fighting in gaza. israeli troops backed by tanks and warplanes. 24 palestinians have died since the start of the operation including a five-month-old baby. one israeli soldier was also killed. israeli's military says the purpose of the attack is the target tunnels dug by hamas over the border. heavy fighting also reported further south in rafah. we're going to join our correspondents on the ground. we have one in and chris on the israeli border. what have you seen and heard in the last few hours? how does this israeli offensive appear to be proceeding? >> well what he we've been told by the israeli military, there's

a small number of troops on the ground in the northwest of the gaza strip. what we've been seeing in the past few hours and hearing is the continuation of aerial bombardment. up north and to the east in the past few minutes. we've seen shelling also a few air strikes in gaza city. the israeli military is trying to target palestinian militants and tunnels in the border used to store and launch rockets. also sometimes to carry out cross border raids into israel to try to carry out attacks. there was such an attempt just yesterday with 13 hamas gunmen who were stopped with an irali air strike. here there's a lot of fear about the possibility of a widening

offensive. people we spoke to here are terrified. >> chris, on the israeli side of the border, any sign there of military preparation for a wider move into gaza and any sign of hamas rocket coming over in the last few minutes and hours? >> well every few minutes we've been hearing the thud of out going fire from israel to gaza. we've seen quite a bit of armored vehicles on the move. let me show you where we are. you can see the palestinian towns here. we know there are israeli forces on the ground operating there. we've had one alarm here since we came in. a siren going off suggesting the possibility of incoming fire. most of what we've heard is israeli fire going into gaza. we've heard from the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he said there's no such thing as

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"gmt" on bbc world news. i'm stephen sackur. in this half hour the downing of mh 17 prompts calls of immediate government intervention from around the world. more than half of the 298 on board the plane were dutch. netherlands are in mourning. malaysian airlines is struggling to cope with the loss of a second airliner this year.

we'll ask how safe it is for airlines to flight over war zones. jamie is looking at the financial fallout from the tragedy. >> in financial times this is a disaster. it's affected more than just one airline company. all stock markets around the world are down as investors ratchet up. that's before one considers the escalations in gaza. a very warm welcome back to "gmt." shock waves from the downing of the malaysian flight mh 17 flight thursday continued to be felt around the world. all 298 people on board lost their lives. more than half were dutch. they came from a dozen different countries if in all. the dutch prime minister was one of many world leaders to demand

immediate independent investigation. the general assumption is clear. this looks like a crime not an accident. the ukrainian government called it an act of terrorism and said it has evidence that pro russian separatists shot the plane down. in moscow, president putin placed responsibility squarely on kiev. while many questions surrounding this disaster remain unanswered, here's what we know about mh 17. the aircraft took off from amsterdam airport around 10:15 "gmt." it reached the normal cruising at duty of 33,000 feet and at that height when contact between the airliner and air traffic control was lost at 14:15 "gmt." near the village of grabovo the wreckage was found. one of the people at the scene early on was the new york times

reporter who described what she saw. >> reporter: i can't quite explain it. it was something like i've never seen ever in my life. it was this vast field of wheat on one side and grasses on the other. agriculture land and just strewn with bodies everywhere. they were in grasses, in strange shapes and looking -- some fully intacted still seat belted into their seats. it was awful. we did spend quite a bit of time in the village nearby the crash site. the villagers were afraid the plane was going to crash into their houses. a number of them saw pit as it was coming down. there were rescue workers who

said the bodies and pieces that had crossed. they looked like ashes falling from the sky. >> some horrific experience from sabrina there, one of the first reporters of the new york times to get to the scene of the crash. we're going to explore more now with david, operation safety editor at flight globe. should we be surprised this airline was on this route over a war zone? >> not particularly because it wasn't designated a war zone. that is basically what the situation is. we're calling it war zone here because of what happened. there was conflict. everybody knew that. some airlines had taken it upon themselves to fly around the east of ukraine and not over that area. the vast majority of airlines were taking that route.

the aviation company had not declared this an area people should not fly. >> it was left as a matter of choice to individual airline as. some had taken position to avoid this particular area. it seems odd there was no international standard, from any aviation authority about this. >> yes. it's more difficult. it's so easy with the hindsight we now have with the disaster to declare huge air spaces of the world as potentially conflict. this was definitely not considered to be a war zone. that is what -- where everybody would have been banned. >> another issue that strikes me interesting and important. how easy is it with your knowledge of the industry to tell the difference on radar for example between a civilian airliner and for example a military transport plane. >> you have the air traffic

controllers that have all the da data. they don't have a dot on the screen. all data is next to the dot. the aircraft has transponders that sends data back. it tells the type, destination, height, speed so that the air traffic controller knows exactly what they're looking at. if you have a military missile unit which is not very well coordinated or not coordinated at all, they do not have this information. they're looking with by binoculars. >> this is much bigger than most military transports. >> it seems anybody with knowledge at all of airlines would know the difference between this airliner and ukrainian plane. >> if you had a set of binoculars you would have been able to tell. 33,000 feet is pretty high but it's an average cruising height for airliners.

it's a small dot in the sky. if you happened to have missiles and had an itchy trigger finger you might not look too carefully. >> david, is it clear for all airlines as a result of the aviation industry acting together there will be no flights over this particular area? >> that's already happened. that air space has been closed. kiev had declared the lower air space closed only a few days ago. it obviously was worried about the degree of conflict. that wasn't an international decision. >> thank you very much for coming into the "gmt" studio. >> also joining me andrew wood the former british ambassador to russia. andrew wood, this is obviously going to put extraordinary pressure on moscow, accusations

traded between kiev and moscow. what do you make of what you've heard so far from the russian government and vladimir putin in particular? >> it's interesting the accusation putin laid against kiev was essentially you have violence going on on your territory therefore it's your fault. he did not go into the fact the violence on ukraine territory is provoked and supplied from russia. he did not say you shot the plane down. that presumably will become part of the story. as the evidence becomes more and more difficult to collect and coordinate, they will throw out all sorts of denials and co complicacom

compensation. >> do you think that the russian government will do all in its power to cooperate with that? >> it will to control the outcome. do i think the russian government were necessarily telling the truth? no. they have lied consistently throughout this whole conflict in ukraine. do i think the russian -- it's possible the russian government itself ordered the downing of the malaysian flight? no. they did supply the equipment. they have supplied the conditions under which as david said trigger happy exploitation. >> obviously there are so many unknowns here. we do not know what weaponry was used if indeed it was used to bring the plane down. there are all sorts of things we don't know. if we can just sort of drill down to how you think moscow reacts now, do you believe that there is any way in which they

will now -- whatever happened, they will now seek to pressure the separatists in eastern ukraine to tstop the fighting ad draw back? >> if they were acting in the genuine interest of their nation, that's what they would do. if they're acting in general action, they wouldn't have in the first place. they have lost the region strategically. it would be sensible to use as a reason to step back. >> the reaction so far suggests they would not do that. >> you speknow how difficult it. do you feel this could be a turning point that as a result of this there could be tough new measures and pressures put upon moscow? >> i think that's inevitable.

it would be wrong to underestimate toughness so far. >> doesn't look tough. >> they don't look tough but there's investment for companies working in russia. it was significant it was the expectation of further tough measures i'm sure contributed to the fall of the russian stock exchange. the recent u.s. measures will have quite a significant effect on companies in which exxon and bp have considered interest. it doesn't come out with good prospects. >> it's also important to remember the last few months opinion polls in russia show vladimir putin's ratings are higher than ever around 80% mark. >> i think if you look at

success in crimea, it was bloodless. it was relatively simple. it was a victory. people didn't have russia count the cost. that looked clean and easy. this no longer looks clean and easy. the expectations of the russian government was presumably in east ukraine as they claimed it happened in crimea. people would rebel essentially, collectively in a significant way against the kiev government. the fact is they have not. the trouble here is there are people that don't like the kiev government. russians have not succeeded in creating an independent state which is one of their aims. >> i appreciate you coming to "gmt." thank you for joining us. of course so much still to be discovered in terms of investigation in terms of what happened in the downing of

flight mh 17. we'll bring you developments as it happens. now with business reflections on the incidents of the last 24 hours. here's jamie. >> thanks very much indeed. not surprisingly. the global financial markets have been badly shaken by the events in the ukraine and middle east. the dow jones fell 17,000. s&p 500 had the biggest one day drop in three months and tumbled 24 points, one and a quarter %, closed at 1958 this morning. asian shares closed sharply. most european industries are trading lower. let's go to dr. elizabeth stephens and constitution straight on russia and what it means to russian markets. there's obviously dr. stephens a reaction of selling off russian

stocks. how much do you think this means? are things going to get worse? or is this just temporary? >> i think things will get worse. we need to find out exactly what happened to the malaysian airliner. the verdict will have a significant impact on markets. what we've seen so far, americans extended sanctions. european union have been reluck assistant to move beyond phase two sanctions. we're closely tied to russian gas sector. if it's in any way linked to russians it will be difficult for european leaders to stop the expansion of sanctions going forward. that will have negative impact on markets in russia. >> you see increasing polarization of the market. russians refusing to give way in any sense.

you see that simply getting worse and two sides drawing further apart or do you see this is a water shed and things would be a bit more -- some kind of -- putin asking for assistance to withdraw or lessen activities? >> if putin were to ask them to lessen activities, this could be a water shed moment. it seems unlikely putin will act in that way. since the start of the conflict he has wrapped up tensions primarily in a military way arming separatists. he knows the u.s. and europe are opposed to direct military interventi intervention. if he doesn't use this as a water shed moment to deescalate conflict, i see sanctions intensifying. >> how damaging is it to russian economy and how much attention

is putin paying to that? >> direct impact at the moment is slightly more limited than three or six months time as sanctions take effect. we see shares in russian companies fall as a result of sanctions. we're going to see it more difficult for leading russian companies and banks to access international dollar funding going forward. that will have negative impact on economy, growth prospects, ability to manage the budget. before this incident, gross forecaster was 0 to 1% this year. we expect that to fall further. by the end of the year, the impact on the average russian citizen will be quite severe. the only saving grace putin has at the moment that no chinese citizens were on the malaysian airliner. if chinese officials were killed, beijing would be stepping up pressure on russia. russia is using beijing as the main partner going forward. >> thank you very much. in the last few hours,

malaysian airlines have closed down 11%. shares are hit hard this year following the disappearance of m mh 370. the company's value has plunged 43% in the last month alone. we speak to the aviation analyst in kuala lumpur. he thinks the airline is not likely to survive this latest disaster. >> it will be difficult for it to go beyond a year. even prior to this incident, the airline was suffering. it's making huge losses. based on its cash capital amount and the balance sheet, we didn't i think it would survive past second quarter of next year, 2016. bear in mind with this incident now, it probably has intensified the situation. >> we know obviously the two disasters that occurred this year. can you tell us what effect that had on the airline.

are they losing passengers? are they unable to compete with other airlines? can you tell me what has gone wrong as a result of these problems? >> well, when a disaster like this happens, the perception is very bad. people fear you. people not comfortable with the airline. therefore the only way for the airline to account for that is lower the particular prices and lure more people to fly with it. by in large it has been rather successful. planes have been pretty full. even the aftermath of mh 370, they've been able to keep up at respectable levels. only two sectors where big declines in china and australia. everywhere else it held up well. in terms of prices, they were lower by roughly 11% on year to year basis.

that's just because they are unable to cover their costs. they're making huge losses. >> let's have a quick look at markets before we go. you can see everything is looking red at the moment. i think it's going into the weekend no one wanteding to be long on stocks on these markets. just really worries about what's happening over the weekend at the point you can't get out and see the effect on those markets. the market managed to make a small gain at 31.41 against the dollar. that's the business news. >> jamie, thank you very much indeed. do stay with us on bbc world news. still to come, as the world grieves, we take a closer look at passengers on mh 17 flight. vo: this is the summer.

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welcome back to "gmt" i'm stephen sackur. the top story this hour. the black box flight recorder to flight mh 17 are recovered in ukraine. the boeing airliner was shot down at 33,000 feet with debris and bodies scattered across eastern ukraine. we're going to bring breaking news that's come in. it's about the former italian prime minister. he has won his appeal against the conviction for paying for sex with an underage prostitute. last year a court decided he had paid for sex with a teenage girl who had been nicknamed ruby the heart stealer. mr. berlusconi was given a sentencing. now that has been thrown out by judges in berlin.

we go back to our main story. we want to look at the different nationalities that made up the 298 people on board mh 17. the latest figures released by i malaysia airlines show the plane was carrying 173 dutch nationals. 44 malaysians, including 15 crew members and two instants. 27 on board were australian. 12 including one infant were indonesian. nine british nationals were on board as well as four germans and four people from belgium. three of those on board came from tphilippines. another was canadian and one from new zealand on the plane. >> with me is the bbc producer who has been looking at social media reaction around the world to the disaster on flight mh 17. try to sum up what kind of reaction you've seen on social

immediate weather. >> when you talked about countries and where people on the flight are from, that's been a sign for us where this is talked about. country i like malaysian, #mh 17 is trending there as well as new zealand, australia, in the u.s., uk also. 1.6 million tweets with that #mh 17. a lot of different varieties. one of the prominent ones has been #pray formh 17 as well. >> one of the major ones shared is about a young dutch man. he was on the tarmac waiting to board this plane. he took a picture of it and made a joke about the last malaysian flight missing saying if it goes missing, this is what my plane looks like. the nature of social media means we have a structural time line

of the information we got out of this crash. it starts off with well wishes for the holiday. then there's worry. hopefully he wasn't on this flight. then hope in the sense of the word maybe this plane landed all right, maybe he survived the crash. it's now moved on to condolences. we've seen personal messages as this has gone along. >> for us journalists, there's been significant individual tweets. i'm thinking of one that appeared to come from a separatist figure in ukraine that appeared for a time to say he knew about the shooting down of the plane. then that tweet disappeared. >> the gentleman you're talking about is a man who was a separatist leader operating in the eastern parts of ukraine. he used a social media platform which is like the russian facebook. he gave a long, detailed post that included video with smoke coming from the horizon talking

about shooting down a carrier and said no civilians were hurt. do not fly over the air space. that was removed later. >> thanks for that. that's pretty much it for this edition of "gmt." stay with us on bbc to follow the story of the downed plig ee. we'll continue to watch it all day on "gmt" world news.

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