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i'm geeta guru-murthy with bbc world news. our top stories. the train carrying the bodies of those killed on mh 17 arrived in the ukrainian government controlled city of kharkiv. black boxes of mh 17 are handed over to malaysian officials five days after the crash that killed 298 people. european frustrations with russia's actions in ukraine go on. eu foreign ministers meet many brussels to discuss tightening sanctions. israeli air strikes hits
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mosque and stadium in goz sa raising the palestinian death toll to more than 570. israel says one of its soldiers is missing in gaza presumed dead. one of the presidential candidates withdraws claiming fraud. he says he will go to court. hello. a train with the remains of more than 200 victims of the malaysian airline mh 17 that crashed in ukraine have arrived in the city of kharkiv. mh 17 was on route to kuala lumpur after departing from amsterdam when it crashed killing 298 on board. many bodies were removed to
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train carriages. they will now be taken to netherlands for formal identification. the osce officials spokesman said parts of the wreckage have changed. major pieces have been cut into. large pieces of wreckage look different. now they need professional investigators to take over. let's get the latest from tim willcox. >> you join me live in the ukrainian capital kiev where five days after the airliner came down the bodies of the victims, the majority of victims have arrived in ukraine's second city of kharkiv. some 280 bodies we understand are on board. that means another 18 are missing. what is extremely distressing for some families is that a some loved ones may never be found. the osce investigators on the site have warned the families
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that some of those bodies may never be found. they may have been incinerated in the explosion that brought the airliner down over the eastern territory in ukraine. eastern territory which has been at war for months with pro russian separatists trying to rest control of that area from ukraine and join russia. other developments overnight. two flight recorders from the passenger plane have been handed over to malaysian officials. it's understood they could now be out of the country. there is fierce fighting still continuing around donetsk. one of two remaining rebel strong holds here in ukraine. despite that, we understand the pro russian rebels along with ukrainian forces have agreed a six mile cease fire zone around that crash site with the intention of getting professional crash investigators
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onto the ground so that they can go through the wreckage which is strewn over several square miles of country side. let's catch up with the latest developments. this report by denise hammock. >> dozens of recorders packed a room in donetsk to watch the black boxes handed over. rebel leaders signed them over to malaysian officials. >> i can see the black box is intact. >> experts hope the box will give much needed answers about the crash. the aircraft position at the time, the moment it happened, and exactly what caused it. it comes five days after mh 17 came down in part of ukraine controlled by pro russian rebels. yesterday they allowed a refrigerator train carrying the
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bodies of passengers to be moveed and checked by inspectors. russia is under pressure. after being denied access to the crash site, the u.n. security council called on international investigators to be let in. russia voted in favor, but there's criticism that president putin could have made it a lot easier. >> we welcome russia's support for today's resolution. no resolution would have been necessary had russia used leverage thursday getting them to lay down arms and leave the site for international experts. >> today foreign leaders meet in brussels to discuss further sanctions against russia. while world leaders may have secured the crash site in eastern ukraine, fighting continues. there's no sign yet they're halting the war. >> let's go to kharkiv now.
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we join richard on the phone. i'm speaking to the prime minister spokesman yesterday. his intention were bodies would be quickly flown to netherlands. has that happened yet? >> no, not yet tim. i'm outside a military factory here in kharkiv. here the train has arrived carrying the bodies from near the crash site. we believe it has now arrived. certainly from the people i've been speaking to, the spokesperson for the dutch forensic team which is here in kharkiv, she was saying she wasn't sure if the bodies would be flown out today or tomorrow. it's not quite clear how long the process will take. certainly things are moving quite quickly here. we've seen officials arriving, diplomats for example for the indonesian embassy, osce people
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are copping to monitor the process. we also saw a refrigerated car going into the compound. we don't know for sure but that will be used to transport the bodies to the airport from where they will then be flown back to holland at some stage. >> richard, it's worth stressing that these bodies have left rebel controlled area now to government controlled area. that journey was potentially perilous. >> that's right. given what happened yesterday in donetsk with the fighting near the train station in the city. there was he have heavy fighting with rockets and other artillery being fired. certainly rebels believe there's been some damage to the railway
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infrastructure. that doesn't seem to have hindered the train. obviously in the sense it's managed to arrive here now. it's taken much longer than i think anyone had expected. it has now arrived. the whole process can get underway. you say i this is kharkiv, a completely government controlled city. things can move pace now. >> richard, just briefly, when we arrived in kiev, we heard that some of the relatives of those passengers on board that flight were in ukraine. have you seen any site of them or are they going to be taken eventually perhaps to somewhere in the netherlands to be along side the remains of their family and friends? >> well, we haven't been here very long. as long as i'm aware, we haven'.
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it's possible they could come here. the identification isn't going to take place until the bodies arrive in holland. it's there the relatives will be rather than spending a lot of time here in kharkiv with this process underway now. >> all right. okay. richard with the latest. thank you very much indeed. let's take you back now to the scene of where the plane or a large part came down in a small village. our correspondent is there. you've been speaking to osc investigato investigators. what's the latest you've heard? >> we just heard a statement from the oc that certainly a huge wlblow to what felt like a break through with bodies sent
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back and black boxes handed over. the spokesman said they have evidence that major pieces of plane have been cut into and large part of the plane have been cut into. he also says that the oc believes parts of the wreckage have been changed from when they first saw them. this is really, really important development. while the evidence from the black box is important, what is more important is experts said all along, the evidence that they could gather from the actual site because of the nature of the crash. it was shut down. in order to know what missile was used and what explosives were used it was the forensic examination that had to happen. it hasn't up to this point. certainly in the last few days we have seen with our own eyes
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how cranes were lifting part of the aircraft and moving them. i don't know if you can see the field behind me. it looks a lot more empty than it did before. that means that what we don't know is where the parts have been taken. we're hearing from international observers parts of the plane have been replaced. >> the pro russian separatists monitoring the plane or protecting the plane from the actual investigation, international investigation teams, where are they now? >> they're at their headquarters in the city of donetsk about an hour drive away from here. also the my militia men are loyal and guarding this road. they have said just today again that they will grant
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international investigation access to this site. now the oc saying the evidence has been removed and changed, replaced, you know this access in itself which has already taken so long is very questionable what is clearly a very big blow to the investigation. >> all right. on the ground there, thank you very much indeed. well that news comes as eu foreign ministers are meeting. president putin under pressure from the international community with threat of further sanctions as well. let's just gauge what people here in kiev, the capital of ukraine think should be done international to try and resolve the issue in the east of the country. i've been on the main street. this is what happened.
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>> what do people think should happen now? what should the international community be doing? >> tougher sanctions first and more firm support for ukrainian security and military forces. and the separation in east of ukraine just oppress militant groups as soon as possible. >> it's not civil war? >> no, it's not civil war a. it's obviously obama stated that they have undeniable proof that all this conflict is inspired by putin and russian forces. >> for now everyone just talking. russia keeps insulting us. it's actually not true. it's a big lie. i hope that europe as well as
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america will help us to fight against all these lies and help us to win this actual war that is now happening in ukraine. >> well that's what two people we spoke to. that's what some in kiev want to happen in the meeting in brussels. let's go there now and speak to ben. that meeting started. what do you think is likely to happen? >> it has started. clearly we'll be key to hear from foreign ministers about the lie from the osce that plane evidence may have been tampered with or cut in half. they're here to talk about sanctions. there are long standing divisions among europe's 28 countries about how tough sanctions should be. there's been meetings since spring and start of the crisis in ukraine. around 70 people connected to crimea, eastern ukraine, russia, directly involved in the crisis
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there have had travel bans one on them, assets prosfrozen. now a tougher response is needed. this is what the british foreign secretary said as he went in the meeting. >> this meeting today is an opportunity for us to send a clear signal to russia. we're obviously pleased there's movement now on the victims. pleased there's access granted to the site. this terrible incident happened in the first place because of russia's support to separatist in eastern ukraine, because of heavy flow of weapons from russia to ukraine. we have to address that today. i should be urging colleagues and partners to send a clear and strong signal to russia today.
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>> do you think some european countries are putting self-interest first? >> everyone wants to see a balance of measures as we go forward. the world has changed since the european council last week. the events of last thursday changed public expectations on us. we have to send a clear message today that we are going to go further as a consequence. >> the british foreign secretary rounding off that coverage of what's going on with the plane. tim willcox there in kiev for us. i want to remind you of our breaking news on this. we're hearing from the osce spokesman that they say they're observing major piece and looking at the tail fin. there's a piece of the airport that looks different. parts of the malaysia plane have been cut into. one main cone section has been almost split in half. this is in addition to observation they made two days
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ago in the cockpit section. they've observed uniformed men cutting parts of the plane with a diesel power saw. there may be valid expectations whether to try to recover certain items or recover evidence. we should not jump to conclusions. that is what we're getting from osce. we'll get that interview as soon as we can. another piece of russia related news. british government announced a public inquiry into the death of a public spy. there's been mystery surrounding the death of the office area since he died after drinking tea laced with radioactive. the timing of this announcement and tensions ongoing over ukraine. another top story. the developments with israel and
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palestinians. israel has continued the bombardment of the gaza strip hitting 70 targets overnight including mosques and a sports stadium. palestinian rocket fire into israel continues overnight. the american secretary of state in egypt met with the foreign minister, u.n. secretary general called for an immediate cease fire. let's go to cairo. the understands from hamas for cease fire including the release of prisoners which seemed very unlikely. where are we, any hope of a break through or not? >> so far nothing about a break through. lots of talks are going in cairo now. we have the egyptian foreign minister meeting the u.s. secretary of state this morning. john kerry it rated report for
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the cease fire. the egyptian prime minister spoke of reviving the peace talks that have fallen apart last april. the u.s. secretary of state is on his way to meet with the president al-sisi say in attempt to find the way out. hamas sticks to demands saying they insist on having the siege on the gaza strip lifted, all border crossings open including the the egyptian border crossing. on the other hand we have egyptian authorities saying they cannot introduce modifications or changes to the cease fire initiative believing this initiative meets all demands of all parties. no break through so far while each party is sticking to his. no changes to initiatives. the escalation is on going and hamas is sticking to demands
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saying it cannot agree to cease fire agreement unless demands are met. >> sally in cairo. thank you very much. stay with us on bbc world news. much more to come. we'll be live as presidential candidate subianto pulls out of the elections alleging massive fraud. you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? hey insurance companies, news flash. nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.
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treatment of christians by isis in the iraqi city of mosul as a crime. the expulsion of christians shows the jihadist group had nothing to do with islam. thousands fled after isis told they they must convert to islam, pay a tax or face death. good luck johnson is to meet the parents of abducted schoolgirls for the first time today. he's been heavily criticized for not doing enough since the girls were taken in april. 200 are still held. he appeared at a meeting last week. the indonesian presidential candidate announced he is withdrawing from the election process alleging massive fraud. let's go live outside the election commission.
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when are we likely to get the results? what does it mean for results if one of the key candidates pulls out? >> well geeta, the results were supposed to be due an hour ago. we're told they're still counting the votes inside. they're almost there. they have 31 out of 33 provinces in the country. all the official data, clearly nominates a candidate. his rival a few hours before the announcement, he has declared on television he's withdrawing from the race because there's been massive fraud and he refuses to participate in the process.
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that raises questions and concerns about what's next for subianto. we were told no matter what took place, results will be announced and we'll get to hear who will be the next president. >> this won't disqualify the winner from taking office even if it has to go through a court process? >> no, i don't think so at this stage. there's been no indication from the election commission or the government to tell us otherwise. all that we know is that mr. subianto has pulled himself out of this electoral process because he says it's unclear. it's not clear if he'll fire that court appeal he indicated a few days ago. what we do know however is in the next few hours the election commission will release the announcement of who the next president of indonesia will be.
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hello. i'm geeta guru-murthy with bbc world news. our top stories. the train carrying the bodies of those on flight mh 17 arrive in kharkiv. the plane's black boxes are handed over to malaysian officials. they say they'll keep them until an international team of investigators the formed. european frustrations go on. eu foreign ministers meet in brussels to discuss tightening sanctions. the palestinian death toll
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raises to 570. israel says one of its soldiers is missing in gaza presumed dead. one of indonesia's presidential candidates withdraws claiming massive fraud. subianto says he will now go to cour court. hello and welcome. a train with the remains of more than 200 victims of the malaysia airliner mh 17 which crashed in ukraine arrived in the government controlled city of kharkiv. five days after the the plane was shot down. meanwhile the black boxes from mh 17 have been handed over to malaysian ex perts. a member of the monitoring team said pieces of the wreckage have been cut into but three teams of
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experts have been working at the scene. he said it looked as though uniformed teams were seen cutting into the plane with a diesel power saw. they're looking at the rear section of the aircraft that looks different from when they first saw them. first of all denise reports. >> dozens of reporters packed into a room in the city of donetsk to watch the black boxes being handed over. the rebel leaders sign them over to malaysian officials. >> black box is intact in good condition. >> experts hope the boxes will give much needed answers about the crash. the aircraft position at the time, the moment it happened, exactly what caused it. it comes five days after mh 17 came down in part of ukraine controlled by pro russian rebels. yesterday they allowed a
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refrigerator train carrying the bodies of passengers to be moved and checked by inspectors. russia is still under pressure. after being denied access to the crash site, the u.n. security council voted on a resolution last night calling on international investigators to be let in. russia voted in favor, but there's criticism president putin could have made it a lot easier. >> we welcome russia's support for today's resolution. no resolution would have been necessary had russia used leverage with separatists thursday getting them to lay down arms and leave the site. >> today that pressure could increase as foreign ministers meet in brussels to discuss further sanctions against russia. while world leaders may have secured the crash site, the fighting continues. there's no sign yet that they're halting the war.
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bbc news. >> uk and u.s. have stopped short of placing blame for the crash. our security correspondent has been looking at the latest intelligence on how the crash happened. >> the flight recorders have been in rebel hands for days. they may only show something everyone knows mh 17 was destroyed suddenly and violently. what they won't answer is who was responsible. both have the same missile thought to have downed the jet. who fired? the prime minister told who he thought is to blame. >> the weight is evidence of pointing in one direction. mh 17 was shot down by an sa 11
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missile fired by separatists. >> what's the intelligence that makes the prime minister so confident? he said there was evidence russians had been supplying heavy weaponry and supplying air defense systems. he said a moment before contact was lost, a launch was detected of a launch from separatist territory. he said a separatist leader talked of another faction of downing an aircraft. he pointed to this video that appeared on social media apparently showing an sa 15 missile launcher heading to russia and missing one missile. russian defense officials said ukrainian air defense systems were in the area and that a ukrainian fighter jet armed with missiles was near the plane. the scene of the crash from the
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air. the intelligence we heard may be detailed but it's not the same as definitive forensic evidence from the ground. that may be hard to collect from a war zone. without it, the russians may try to hold to their line. bbc news. also today the british government has announced an inquiry held into the death of alexander, former kbg officer that died in 2006 at a london hospital after he was poisoned with radioactive ploen yum. just remind people how he died. what do we know? >> eight years ago he met with the two russian business men at the time and also former kgb
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agents. not not kgb per se. one is the guards service. these guys worked for guards service. after meeting with them he fell violently ill. that's when the polonium poisoning with you discovered after several days. a radioactive trace was left. the uk investigators consider him as the prime suspect, but the russian authorities decided they want to extradite despite all requests. he was an elected member of parliament. >> i remember at time it warmed up again. what is the russian reaction to this in the context of what else
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is going on in ukraine? >> there's no official reaction now. there will be one when we see how the investigation progresses. i don't know what you can read in social media. people noting that the incident of that start of inquiry with the pressure russia is under because of the mh 17 disaster. >> british government says there's no link at all. >> no, there's no link. russians see it differently. they see undermining putin and russian government and foreign policy. >> it's been several years since this happened. >> it's interesting it's been thounsed today. there's a lot of political pressure about what the british government is doing for a long time. >> russia media are reporting the actual fact the whole thing will be restarted. the public inquiry. they note the previous investigation won't dead end.
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they think it is nothing to do with the death of litvinenko. >> she is delighted and relieved there will be a public inquiry. she sends a message to killers. >> the same time for her, if that hasn't happened she would have to pay huge fees, legal fees surrounding. she was insisting on continuing the case. she was refused. that now what's going to happen now she will not have to pay legal fees. we're talking 40,000 pounds. the case will continue. i don't know, i mean she hope this is will come to end and justice be served. we'll have to see. >> we'll see what information is possible on this. we'll talk about this again. thank you. now israel has continued its bombardment of the gaza strip
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hitting more than 70 targets overnight including mosque and a sports stadium. palestinian rocket fire continued overnight. israeli media reports a soldier is missing and probably dead in gaza. he was part of a team in an armored vehicle hit sunday where six soldiers died. chris is following the story from jerusalem. >> it's probably best to say israelis regard him as missing presumed dead. they have not tied his remains and can't be entirely certain. you may remember sunday night hamas put out a statement and showed the id card of an irali soldier who they claimed to have captured. we have not seen video or photographic evidence of that. it may be they retrieved his body or it may indeed be he's still alive. either way in the way of these things it's seen as a bargaining chip. whether he's dead or alive,
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israel will be determined to get him back for burial or obviously to reunite him with his family. it brings back to mind the rather traumatic experience of the israeli soldier in custody in gaza five years. when he was released in 2011 it was in return for release of hundreds and hundreds of palestinian prisoners from israeli jails. so that's why there was celebration on the streets of gaza when hamas made the announcement they captured the sol jempt it's seen as one of the few bargaining chips they can have over israel. >> gaza's health ministry says more than 600 palestinians have now been killed. israel continues the bombardment of the territory. our correspondent in gaza city which came under attack. >> reporter: this is the middle of gaza city.
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this is the ten or 11 story building brought half way down by two missile strikes last night. just about the time when palestinians were breaking their fast. we don't know if there was a warning. locals say there wasn't. we're not sure. since early light, rescue workers have been here trying to retrieve bodies. it was largely an office building judging by papers you see around us here. we're told people who fled other areas being shelled in previous days had sought shelter here thinking they might be safe. >> i live with them. now because it's under attack,
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we leave it. palestinians say leave. >> we were on our way back and came across this scene. this is a scene of another strike in the early hours around 4:00. huge explosion at the mosque that blew the walls out and trashed this garage completely. a lot of masonry is hauled onto this tanker here. it's clearly that mosque that seems to have taken the full brunt of the strike. >> paul adams reporting for us now. let me bring you breaking news this hour. indonesia has had election. the commission counted 130 million votes. it says that widodo has won 53.15% of the vote.
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subianto won 46.95% of the vote. the formal election is 2:00 "gmt." as predicted widodo has won. subianto withdrew saying he will go to court to contest the whole process. our correspondent saying that will not affect the fact widodo will now take office. stay with us on bbc world news. much to come. the london summit that aims to end female genital mutilation and child marriages.
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of kharkiv outside rebel territory. israel hits mosque and a complex in gaza in another night of air strikes. 600 palestinians and 29 israelis have died in 14 days. a body found in the city last month was that of a business man wanted in the sinking of the ferry. he was head of the company that owned the ship that sank and killed 300 people, most school children. he had been accused of embezzlement, negligence and tax evasion. now the idea that a child as young as 8 years old could be forced into marriage is shocking and mobile lieizing the world t something about it. that and fgm are the topics at
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the conference. >> a typical day in the life of a teenage girl in zambia going about her daily chores around the house. you may think there's nothing wrong with this picture. the tragedy is this 17-year-old has been force into marriage. we were able to speak to her because her husband was away. she did not want knob identified. >> my parents set me down and told me i was no longer their responsibility. they wanted me to start out and start a life of my own. things moved faster than i expected when a strange area paid a bribe price to my parents. i had no say in the matter. i did not choose this life, and i'm not happy here. villagers have been summoned to a meeting by their leader.
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>> in our community, there's customs. >> this is one of the few traditional leaders to speak out against child marriages. he told his community he would not tolerate this practice. he wants young girls to be kept in school. >> this stance which i have is no parent shall force a girl below the age of 18 to go into marriage. a parent who does that will be severely punished. >> traditional leaders in many parts of the world are starting to challenge old customs seen to be harmful in order to protect children and force marriages. they' starting to realize this is a sad reality for millions of girls globally. >> the delegation of leaders recently met to discuss the problem.
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in the recent interview with bbc, michelle spoke out against damaging practice temperatures. >> traditions are man made. traditions can change. our responsibility is create the environment to nurture them, to allow them to soar and then make the choices in life which they believe are the best for themselves. it is estimated girls that become pregnant before their 14th birthday are five times likely to die while giving birth. it is hoped such discussions will prompt communities globally to protect children against these detrimental practices. >> well we are now going to
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speak to someone, a child bride herself forced into marriage. let's speak to her. she's in south london for us. thanks very much for speaking to us here on bbc world. can you tell us what happened to you? >> 14 years old, my parents decided to take me out of school and force me to get married. they were not able to pay my education expenditures. i wanted to do something better for me, my family and country. that's why i was looking for someone to share this story. i said this to my aunt to see if you can help me. my aunt was able to persuade my parents. she said you cannot do this. she is too young. girls are not mentally and physically fit at this age. my aunt was able to persuade my
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parents do not force me to marry. i felt happy because i want to learn and i wanted to do something better for me, my family, and my country. >> are you still close to your parents now? have they accepted what's happened? >> sorry? >> are your parents happy with what has happened? are you still close to your own family now? >> yeah, yeah. they're happy. last year they were encouraging me and supporting me. in fact i'm not going to school. i had left my studies to do education expenditures, but they're not forcing me to get married. >> you have friends who weren't as lucky as you and forced to get married when they were very young? >> yeah. i have friend sonia she was 12 years old and forced to get married to a man of 45.
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her father was not able to return the money. the old man demanded if her father is not able to return the money, he will get married to sonia. sonia gets married. her father was not able to return his money. sonia gets married to man of 45. this happened because her father was very poor. she said to her friends that her parents short and injustice to her. she wants to learn, but she cannot do this. she wants to play but she cannot do this. she had a baby at age of 14. she wants to change to reality. >> what do you think impractical terms have been done to try and stop this from happening? it happens to millions in many cultures? >> okay. i think parents don't send their daughters to school.
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if they don't send daughters to school they're free at home. then their parents suggested to them to get married. i think reduce poverty and also make laws. although there are many laws in pakistan. >> okay. sorry to interrupt. thanks very much. good luck with the campaign today. good luck. thanks. moving to iran the home of the musician, growing up the son of a popular singer who had musical musical ambitions of singing at a young age. he came to the u.s. and released his first album. >> i am 34 years old. i live in new york city. growing up instead of having cars and balls, playing with those things, i had instruments.
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i was breaking them and playing them. i have studied classical persian music and music of iranian national music since three years old. i still think it's a privilege for me to grow up in that family and be the son of the great legend, my father. i never thought it would be difficult to come out of the shadow of the great father. it was great for me. i had a privilege to grow up in a house that the sound was conversation always music. i had different goals coming to united states to study. one was musical goal. i also wanted to have the opportunity to introduce the reality of my culture and country iran to entire world. i wanted to be able to create a
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music that was a new integration of eastern and western classic on music with the message of unity and love and peace. it could introduce another side of iron to the entire world. persian classical music and indian music are known for improvation. what i wanted to do was create a balance while i have a modern harmony and orchestration. i still tried to to keep the essence of persian classic on music as well. my goal has been to create a universal music to communicate with the listener without any work. what totally defines persian class cat music the in my opinion is the vocal. we have a unique technique of
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singing that is like utilizing. this is like very open with no rhythm. we perform it in persian classical music. i've tried to take this and development and make it rhythm kal. >> lovely. we'll see you tomorrow. bye bye. ♪ the last four hours have seen... one child fail to get to the air sickness bag in time. another left his shoes on the plane... his shoes! and a third simply doesn't want to be here.
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