i'm geeta guru-murthy with bbc world news. our top stories. tributes have been pouring in for the actor and comedian robyn williams found dead at his home in california. >> one of the greatest. blessed by his presence. the world has been a greater place because of it. supplies is reaching refugees fleeing iraq as president obama offers support to the nation's new leader. we stand ready to partner

with iraq in the fight against terrorist forces. without question that will be advanced. if iraqis continue to build and come together to support a new and inclusive government. the world health organization backs use of experimental drugs to fight the virus. the death toll is over 1,000. standed on the roads, the city paces the heaviest rain in the city's history. hello and welcome. the american comedian and oscar winning actor robin williams has been found dead at his home in california. he was 63. it's thought he killed himself. many have been paying tribute

with fans laying flowers on the walk of fame star in hollywood. robyn williams started in the 1970s show. he then moved to film. he was nominated for after ca y cadmy -- an academy award. alice looks back at his kroo krooer -- his career. >> this compelled robyn williams to stardom. this was a huge tv hit in the 197 1970s and 1980s.

it won him a golden globe and oscar nomination. verse the tillty and talent eventually awarding him an academy award for "good will hunting." his best comic role he'll be remembered for, he was due to film a follow up for his famous role in "mrs. doubtfire "next year. robin williams was discovered unconscious and pronounced dead at his home. the coroner suspected suicide. he was suffering depression. >> people are surprised when you say someone that spreads joy had bouts of depression. i understand it was severe depression. so much so he checked himself in

rehab weeks ago. >> grieving fans came to pay tribute at his star on hollywood walk of fame. >> he was one of the greatest men alive. i'm going to miss him a lot. today the comedy dies. >> robyn williams was one of those rare talents who's word crossed generations from the 1970s to mrs. doubtfire, all those characters on television. we read from comments around the world, he will be sorely missed. >> many fond tributes paid to robyn williams. here's some from fellow stars. >> one only hopes that he's gone to a good place. it's a great loss. it's very sad. i can only say we are all

celebrating the premiere of "expendables "but at the same time mourning the loss of a great man. >> very tragic death, yeah. obviously gutted to hear the news. feel sorry to anyone a that got close to him, anyone he knew, his fans. everybody has a bad day when someone like that is gone. >> the hollywood reporter in beverly hills has followed robyn williams' career. >> he really was a unique comedian. there's a whole generation that grew up with him first meeting him on the tv series mark and men i did. at the same time he did a range of dramatic films winning oscar for "good will hunting." he appeared on talk shows, award

shows where he would give free reign to his imagination and create moments out of nowhere. >> people felt they knew him. he was still very busy working. >> he was. he has a major movie scheduled to come out in december. it's the third installment in the "night at the museum" series. this set in london. some was filmed in london. that comes out in december. recently there had been talk he would film a sequel to "mrs. doubtfire." >> it was known his private life was troubled with addictions and depression. were people aware he was as a rule -- was vulnerable. >> he was public about his addiction.

he was on the scene when john died years ago. he went on to be sober 20 years according to interviews he gave. he had moments of relapses. i don't think people probably knew the depths of depression he suffered. i think like any good comedian, they hide that pain. it may not have been visible on the surface. >> how do you sum up the mood in hollywood today? >> as the news broke, just immediate shock. some of the people that knew him best wanted time to absorb the news before they said anything. also you just sense a genuine affection from the public and from the industry itself. he had demons and really kept them to himself. he worked hard to entertain people. he was not considered to be a difficult star.

he was very well liked by everyone who worked with him. >> greg killday there. more on the website on the reaction to death of robyn williams. videos, pictures too. bbc.com/news. to iraq now. tens of thousands of iraqis have run from their homes to avoid the continuing advance of the islam group. american air strikes have slowed fighters in northern iraq. many from the religious majority remain stranded on sinjar mountain. >> a helicopter carrying supplies swoops over mount sinjar. people are still desperate for relief and rescue. it pulls away for fear of being overwhelmed with this young woman terrified in the door way.

a new british air drop. britain is sending tornado jets to the region that could be used to support the humanitarian operation. the air drops itself are a major challenge for the crews. zb >> it's important to take the situation serious in the air and on the ground. it's important to get this job done safely. >> meanwhile a key development in baghdad. this man nominated as iraq's prime minister designate to take over for malaki, widely blamed for the country's politics. president obama called the move promising. >> the new iraqi leadership has a difficult task. it has to regain citizens. united states standing ready to support a government that addresses the needs and

grievances of all iraqi people. >> mr. maliki and people say the move is illegitimate. according to the united states, many from the deck of this aircraft carrier, have slowed sunni militants. they acknowledge this this will be temporary. security forces battle on the ground, but the key will be whether political and military leaders, perhaps with more assistance, can go enough in time to turn back the advances? we want to show you more pictures we're getting of that operation to air lift people to safe at tt safety. this was carrying dozens from people. you can see how crowd had the helicopter is.

conditions of people also being rescued. many were approaching the helicopter had to be turned away. these are the lucky ones that made it on board and told to take cover as the helicopter is attacked by isis militants from the ground. they all made it to safety. of course thousands are still stranded on mount sinjar. let's get more now. let's speak to suzanne who is from the international rescue commission. she's the iraq country director. can you tell me exactly what information you're getting about whether the rescue operation is adequate enough, what needs to be done now? >> well we hear that tens of thousands are stranded. thousands of people are running across east of syria and decide

to stay there and weigh options staying or going back to other areas which are safe and where they can receive the assistance. people have been stranded in the mountains for days without food and water. we hear stories of children dying because of lack of water. then those that manage to be obstructive. they're staying here because of attacks possible. we don't know how many people are there. we expect around 50,000 people. what needs to happen now, they need to make sure they're taken from there and to a safe place.

>> is your sense that this is a fraction of the amount that needs to be done or is the international community getting there? we've been told about people for a few days. the sense is that time really is crucial to their survival. >> i believe the time is crucial, but we need to make sure it has to happen. as far as we understand, this hasn't been secured. thousands are dead. they need to be rescued. a response needs to be put in place so these people are taken safely out of the mountain. these are stories we're hearing as well as people report had the left. they were shot at while they

were leaving. they have to distract the people from the mountain and put them in a place to receive medical assistance and support. this is a huge area, more than 650 square kilometers. we don't know if everybody is provided over the last few days there the air. >> from the international rescue committee in iraq, many thanks indeed. you were in erbil for us. links with russia and eu now predicting business. >> russia is sending an aid convoy to ukraine. that is ratcheting tensions

between russia and west once again. u.s. and eu have wide ranging sanctions against russia over ukraine in recent weeks. they're met by retaliation by moscow who placed a ban on imports including those babies, pork. we've got a special report on european farmer who is are very worried about sanctions or bans. cute or adorable as babies, delicious as adults. from one food group to other, could there be a banana war? two fruit companies made a $670 billion bid for the group chiqita. it was announced the merger would create the largest banana company worth $1 billion. also the mexican president signed into law a new set of

regulations to allow foreign countries to drill for oil and gas and produce electricity. the new energy law will attract billions of needed to boost the country's declining oil out put. tweet me on twitter @bbc aaron. moving now to the united states. the city of detroit has been hit by what some is the heaviest rain in the city's history. amazing pictures. that man struggling to get through the waters as a big coach goes past him. 12 centimeters of rain almost fell in the city on monday afternoon alone. local television reports saying hundreds of cars had to be abandoned because of flooding. see a that attempting to move through the waters. many commuters stranded hours on roads. incredible amounts of rain

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this is bbc world news. i'm geeta guru-murthy with the latest headlines. tributes paid to the american actor and comedian robyn williams who's died at home in california. president obama has welcomed moves in iraq to appoint a new prime minister and urged him to choose an inclusive government. well breaking news this hour because a ukrainian security official says a humanitarian convoy dispatched to eastern ukraine by russia will not be admitted into the country. russian media showed pictures of

a convoy of trucks after an agreement was reached on international operation governed by the red cross. the red cross charity due to coordinate said it had no information on what the trucks are carrying or where they're going. let's get more from david stern our correspondent in kiev. the russian cargo could be delivered to the boarder and then transferred by the red cross. this story is moving all the time. >> reporter: yes, that's absolutely right. it should be said there's a great deal of confusion at the moment. we're getting various reports. it seems that the ukrainian government has been caught to a degree by surprise by the sending of this convoy, 280 trucks with humanitarian goods ranging from baby food to sleeping bags. we're told by the ukrainian government the russian trucks should not be able to operate on ukrainian territory.

we've also heard russian trucks are not certified by the international red cross. there's confusion about what is going on. what seems to be clear is that this is heading towards the ukrainian border border to the where there's humanitarian crisis in the making. 250,000 inhabitants of the city of luhansk have been without water and electricity nine days. russia could use a humanitarian convoy as a pretext to send it's own troops in. we've been hearing that from officials including may tonato. we're watching it closely as it makes its way to the border. >> david we'll leave it there but be back as it changes. the world health

organization ruled experimental drugs can be used to try to stop the spread of ebola in west africa. more than 1,000 people are thought to have died in the outbreak. it comes as doctors in spain say a priest that contracted the virus in liberia has died. he failed to respond to treatment. both deaths are in liberia, guinea and sierra leone. our bbc correspondent is with us. people are alarmed to hear there's a death in europe. they are sanctions this new experimental treatment. >> the statement just came out from the who panel of ethics specialist. they say approving the untested drug on humans does pose many ethical questions in this case

in this ebola outbreak. it should be tried. under quite strict conditions with the informed consent of the patients and communities, patient's confidentiality and identity must be preserved. further on, anybody given this drug must be monitored. there's questions about whether this is effective or not. two american aid workers seem to have improved after receiving it. we have heard the spanish priest who we also believe received it sadly died today. >> do we know how quickly this treatment is going to be distributed? >> well we see that liberia is already requesting it and due to get it very soon and will use it. i think the real issue is not so much how quickly but who. there isn't much of this around. i'm sure the manufactures are

encouraged to ramp up production. that's ethnically questionable in the sense, do you want to go ahead with widespread use of a drug which has not been tested on humans up until now? lots questions. we're expecting elaborate detailed statement from the world health organization in an hour's time. the first key question has been answered. yes who thinks in this instance given the gravity of the ebola outbreak, this drug can be tried. a second night of rioting in the united states state of missouri following the death of an unarmed black teen shot by police. the teen, michael brown, was shot several times after a struggle in a police car. the fbi is looking into possible

civil rights allegations in the killing. the zoo in scotland believes their female panda is pregnant and may give birth at the end of the month. she was artificially inseminated this year after attempts to bring her together with male partner failed. she also conceived last year. hopes were high for a rare birth in captivity but in october it was announced she was no longer pregnant. meanwhile these pictures were released today by the safari park showing the panda cubs born there two weeks ago are the first surviving triplets to be born to a panda. today the zoo says they are optimistic they can save all three of the cups. they now call them miracle pandas. we need a little good news.

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i'm geeta guru-murthy with bbc world news. our top stories. tributes have been pouring in for the actor and comedian robyn williams who's been found dead at his home in california. >> one of the greatest. we've all been blessed by his presence. the world has been a better place as a result of him. vital supplies are reaching people fleeing iraq's militants. president obama offers support to the nation's new leader. >> we stand ready to partner

with iraq in the fight against these terrorist forces. without question that effort will be advanced if iraqis continue to build on today's progress and come together to support a new and inclusive government. ukraine refuses to let a russian aid mission into its territory warning the convoy could be a military operation. the world health organization backs use of experimental drugs to fight the ebola virus as the death toll reaches over 1,000. hello. the american comedian and oscar winning actor robyn williams has been found dead at his home in california. he was 63. it's thought he killed himself. many have been paying tribute to

the star with fans laying flowers on the walk of fame star at hollywood boulevard. robyn williams started his career as a standup comedian. he started with a show in the 70s with the show mark and mindy. he then went to film. he was nominated for academy award for "good morning vietnam." it was in drama that williams won an oscar for the therapist in "goodwill hunting." around the world, tributes from his co stars. >> one only hopes he's gone to a good place so -- it's a great lo loss. it's very sad. >> i can only say we are all celebrating the premiere of

"expendables" but also mourning the loss of such a great man. >> my heart is broke today. my heart is broke. robin was a national treasure. he's a comedian legend, dramatic legend. he will be missed. he will be missed. >> very tragic death, yeah. obviously gutted to hear the news. i feel sorry for anyone that got close to him or anyone he knew, all his fans. everyone has a bad day when someone like that is gone. >> such a dramatic actor. i loved his dramatic roles. loved his movies. guy was so loved. >> we have all been blessed by his presence. the world is a better place as a result of it. we look forward to seeing him again. >> we'll get more tributes to robyn williams later in the

program. first of all, let's turn to iraq. tens of thousands of iraqis have run away from their homes to avoid the continuing advance of the militant group islamic state a. the series of american air strikes have slowed rebel fighters in iraq. many from the religious minority are still trapped on the sinjar mountain. nick explains. >> reporter: an iraqi helicopter carrying supplies swoops over mount sinjar. people desperate for relief and rescue. it pulls away for fear of being overwhelm m with this young woman hanging onto the door way. tornado jets are sent to the region to help support the humanitarian operation. the air drops themselves are a

major challenge for the air crews. >> very important to take careful consideration of the situation in the air and on the ground. we've got procedures in place to make sure we get the job done safely. >> reporter: meanwhile, a key political a development in baghdad. this man nominated as iraq's prime minister designate to take over for maliki. president obama called the move promising. >> the leadership has a difficult task. it has to regain citizens by governing inclusively and taking steps to demonstrate resolve. united states stands ready to support a government that addresses the needs and grievances of all iraqi people. >> reporter: mr. maliki and supporters say the move is illegitimate. there could be a difficult and damaging standoff. according to the united states, it's air strikes, many from the

deck of this aircraft carrier, have slowed sunni militants in recent days. the pentagon acknowledges this will be temporary. as iraqi forces battle on the ground, the key is whether the iraq military and political leaders perhaps with more assistance with do enough in time to turn back the militant advances. >> well we wanted to show you more pictures of that operation to air lift people to safety in northern iraq. this is on board one of those kurdish military helicopters. you can see how crowded it is. dozens carried away from the mountain, the place militants have been advancing. many people failed to get into these helicopters. that's why there are thousands desperately and urgently in need of help. you can the condition of those on board. they've been told to crouch down

because the helicopter was being attacked while it was taking off which must have been pretty terrifying as refugees are air lifted to safety. young children on board very frightening for parents and all those there. our correspondent is in erbil for us. give us a picture of what it feels like on the ground at the moment. >> a world away from the developments we've been seeing in other parts simply because erbil has been re-established as one of the areas in iraq. the american air force as i.s. fighters were advancing to this region in northern iraq, they've drawn a red line on the outskirts of irbil. it appears kurdish forces

fighting the islamic state, some breathing space in order to start a counter offensive. it does not appear that has been successful with the exception of taking two pounds from the islamic state fighters. at least for now irbil appears to have been for now far from the front line of the fighting. >> can you give us any sense about what american intelligence there is, how much and what sort of arms might be sent in? a lot of discussion about how much american support there will be and how much is needed. >> not really because these things are usually kept secret. what we heard being reported is that the americans have started giving kurdish ammunition as well as heavy weaponry to fight

the islamic state fighters. this is pretty much confirmed. there aren't further details about the extent of this. it's quite well known the americans deal with this region of iraq and kurdish region of government as an ally at least since 1991. this is why perhaps they have decided to make clear that they will not allow or will try to prevent the fighters getting into irbil or shaking up the situation in the heart land of the region. >> many thanks indeed. it's not easy to get the information we're in search of. we appreciate that. thanks a lot. we're just going to take you back now to our top story and events in america. the news of the death of the actor and comedian overnight robyn williams. scott is an actor and comic who

was in "mrs. doubtfire" with robyn williams. he's on the phone in scotland. what did you know of robyn williams -- scott, what's your reaction to the news? >> i'm terribly saddened. it's a great loss. robin was a great and generous person. i was fortunate enough to work with him for a brief time. he gave me my first show biz break in "mrs. doubtfire." i was able to spend a week on the set. he was very, very funny. i saw him do a set in america in san francisco last year on a comedy stage. he was so fresh and so alive and uninhibited on stage as he's always been. i just can't believe it. i feel so far away from san francisco now in so many ways. wish i could be there.

>> scott you tweet had the he was an inspiration, incredibly generous. the tell us more about your first show biz break. why do you use those words, how did he give you the break? >> i auditioned for the film. i had seen him in the comedy club. the club owner said, tell him you auditioned for the film. i shyly went up and told him. he said what role? i said jack. i got a call not long after that that i got the part. i couldn't believe i was suddenly on the set with a great iconic actor. he was very funny. when the cameras were rolling we were everyom per vising. it was a warm and supportive

atmosphere. harvey and robin were just hilarious. i had to redo his hair, teach him lyrics, don't rain on my parade and stuff. it was like we were on a playground. >> scott, sorry we're going to have to leave it there. thanks for your thoughts. >> thanks for letting me share. appreciate it. >> scott speaking to us there. back to events in the i hmie east region. an inquiry is called into the mass killings of hundreds last year. supporters of the ousted president morsi many cairo probably amounted to a crime against human thank youty. hundreds were killed when egyptian forces tried to clear the demonstration. officials describe the deaths of one of the large's killing and

demonstrations on a single day in history. a ukrainian official says a humanitarian convoy will not be admitted into the country. russian trucks is heading for ukraine after an agreement was reached for humanitarian mission. the red cross supposed to be coordinating the situation, says it does not have information on what the trucks are carrying or where they're going. david stern has more. >> great deal of confusion at the moment. we're getting various reports. it seems that the ukrainian government has been caught to a degree by surprise by the sending of this convoy. 280 trucks with all types of goods from baby food to sleeping bags. we're told by the government the russian trucks should not be

able to operate on ukrainian territory. we've heard the russian trucks are not certified by the international red cross. there's confusion about what is going on. what seems to be clear, this is heading towards the ukrainian border, possibly to the kharkiv region and then on to luhansk where there's a crisis in the making. 250,000 inhabitants of the city have been without electricity and water for nine days. we've also been hearing there are concerns that russia could use a humanitarian convoy or delivery as a pretext to send its troops in. that's what we've been hearing from western officials including nato. obviously people are watching the situation closely as the convoy makes its way towards the ukrainian border. >> david stern. we'll keep you update on that story. stay with us. stranded on the roads of the

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. this is bbc world news. i'm geeta guru-murthy with the latest headlines to you. tributes paid to the american actor and comedian robyn williams who died at home in california. president obama has welcomed moves in iraq to appoint a new prime minister. he urges him to choose an inclusive government. there's rioting after police shot and killed a teenager, michael brown. he was shot several times after a struggle in a police car. the fbi says it's investigating possible civil rights investigations over the killing.

protestors faced off with police in riot gear in the st. louis suburb of missouri. a dozen were arrested after calling for authorities to arrest one of their own for the shooting death of michael brown. today's tense demonstrations one day after 32 thieves were arrested for stealing phones, jeans, shoes, tire rims. the surveillance video shows lieu ters in a shop. >> if you want to honor his memory, do it by seeking justice, non violently. >> the fbi and the justice department are reviewing the police shooting of the unarmed teen. his family hiring the attorney who represented trayvon martin's family. he called for witnesses to come forward and shared video recordings with investigators.

>> trayvon martin was shot once. we understand this child was shot multiple times. >> it's unclear what led to the shooting. brown was supposed to start colleges class today. instead his mother is planning his funeral. >> good boy. didn't deserve none of this. >> police say the officer is a six year veteran and will be identified soon. staying in u.s. the city of detroit has been hit by heaviest rain in the city's history. rain washed away roads. that man looking like he's in trouble as the coach zips through. the big vehicles now moving through the flood waters. television reports say hundreds of cars had to be abandoned because of rain. many commuters were stranded for hours on the roads. incredible pictures.

the sewol ferry trial heard that coast guard officers sent to rescue passengers did not have the equipment or training to go inside the ship. the captain and several of his crew were charged in the connection with 300 deaths. we report outside the court. >> the captain of the sewol and three of his crew are on trial here for murder. the evidence against them is pretty devastating. that's why their defense team is trying to spread the blame accusing the south korean coast guard of not doing enough to get more people out of the sinking ship. today in court behind me, some of those officers got the first chance to answer accusers. one of the first on the scene said it expected to find the passengers lining the deck of the sinking ship. he had no idea most of them were still inside their cabins. he said he had equipment to take people off the deck or out of

the sea, but had neither the training nor the equipment to go inside a sinking ship. he said he also had no idea that one of the first people he did take off the ship was its captain. one of the most damming pieces of evidence against the captain is a piece of coast guard video that shows him down the side of the ship and onto a coast guard vessel while hundreds of passengers remained stuck inside. bbc news, south korea. now this has long been identified as the birth place. there's plans to term this to a place of learning. archaeologists uncovered remains of the earliest ever buddhist shrine in the temple. we've been given rare access to film inside the temple.

>> this is queen's temple in nepal. it is believed this is where buddha was born centuries ago. this is considered to be the holiest place for buddhist all across the world. buddhist believe the queen gave birth to buddha while holding onto a branch of a tree. the structures you see around were built during the time of emperor. now archaeologists say they have found more evidence to suggest that there was another temple, probably the earliest buddhist shrine in the world, underneath this structure. the carbon dating of materials found underneath the structure show that those could be from around the sixth century b.c. there was debate about when he was born and when he left.

many scholars argue it's around the third century b.c. a new study suggests around the sixth century b.c. after buddha was born, a temple was built around this place. you can see the ruins of the huge temple complex all around this area. they were all made of bricks. there's a pillar. many say this was built during the emperor's time. it's towards my right. now the government of nepal and also other buddhist nations wants to convert this into a huge complex so that it can attract hundreds of thousands of tourists, particularly buddhist. >> let's hope it doesn't disturb that amazing sense of piece there. let's move on to news on ebola. that's been dominating headlines. the world health organization has today ruled that

experimental drugs can be used to dry to stop the spread of ebola in west africa. more than 1,000 people are thought to have died many the outbreak. doctors in spain say an elderly priest that contracted ebola in liberia has now died from the disease. he failed to respond to treatment after being flown to madrid last week. most of the deaths have been in liberia, guinea and sierra leone. our correspondent in geneva. the panel of experts has just come out. it says this drug poses many ethical questions in this case and ebola outbreak. it should be tried but under strict condition cans with the informed consent of patients and communities. patients confidentiality and dignity must be preserved.

further on, a line about how anybody given this drug must be monitored. there are big questions out there about whether this drug is effective or not. those two american aid workers seem to have improved after receiving it. we have heard the spanish priest who we also believe received it has since died today. >> do we know how quickly the treatment is going to be trib e distributed? >> liberia is requesting it and due to get it soon and will use it. the real issue is not how quickly but who. there isn't much of this drug around. i'm sure the manufacturing will be encouraged to ramp up production. again that's ethnically questionable in the sense that again, do you want to go ahead with widespread use of a drug which has up until now not been tested on humans?

>> now, in scotland, the staff at the zoo, they believe the female panda is pregnant and might give birth at the end of the month. she was artificially inseminated earlier this year after attempts to bring her together with the male failed. in october it was announced she was no longer pregnant from her previous pregnancy. we hope this is more successful. these are pictures released today by the safari park showing the panda cubs born there two weeks ago. they're the first surviving triplets born to a giant panda. they were so small, it was feared they might not survive. the zoo says it's optimistic they can save the cubs. they're calling them miracle pandas. we all need a bit of good news

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>> hello. you're watching "gmt" on bbc world news. i'm lucy hockings. people all over the world pay tribute to robyn williams. he was unique, loved by fans of comedy and braced by hollywood elite. he had demons so dark they could have driven him to suicide. >> one only hopes that he's gone to a good place. so -- it's a great loss. it's very sad. a