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also, the rough old route to an election in ukraine. steve rosenberg takes the train across a country fighting for its future. and of course, in the program, aaron is here having a look at the big troubles facing one of the world's biggest retailers. >> once the unstoppable juggernaut of britain's retailers, but tesco, yes, is on the ropes. sales are falling. profits are plunging. and the supermarket giant has been rocked by an accounting scandal. yes, we're going to take a look at all of that and find out how this grocer can turn things around. hello. it's midday here in london. 7:00 a.m. in washington. also 7:00 a.m. in ottawa. where canadians are still having to come to terms with wednesday's attack on their capital. the security lockdown on parts of the city has now been lifted after a gunman shot and killed a soldier at an ottawa war
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memorial, and then entered parliament before being shot dead amidst a volley of gunfire. he was michael zehaf-bibeau. he was a canadian citizen in his early 30s who had converted to islam. he was described as a suspected jihadist sympathizer whose name was on a terror watch list. and he had been labeled by authorities as a high-risk traveler and had recently had his passport taken away. in just a moment, we'll have more from our correspondent in ottawa. first, let's take a look back at the last 24 hours that have shocked canada.
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>> we will not be intimidated. canada will never be intimidated. in fact, this will lead us to strengthen our resolve and redouble our efforts. >> there we are. a deeply traumatic 24 hours. let's get the latest now. samira, we're just hearing the prime minister say we will not be intimidated. i appreciate it's early hours, but it's clear the security levels are certainly up. >> reporter: that's right. security is pretty tight where
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we are. if you just look behind me, you can see that there are police barricades. the parliament building is just behind me. and in terms of what stephen harper was saying, the prime minister of canada in terms of not being intimidated, it will be business as usual here in ottawa. parliament will be sitting. civil workers are going to be going to work today. and that's part of his message of we will not stop working, we will not be intimidated as a result of what happened here in ottawa yesterday. >> any indication already, though, that levels of security are being raised? i mean, let's bear this in mind. the gunman walked into parliament. >> reporter: that's right. this is something that canada has really been able to pride themselves on. parliament here has always been very accessible to canadians. in fact, in warmer weather months, people will take yoga mats on to the lawns of parliament and do yoga on
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wednesday evenings. so that just gives you a sense of how canadians really do pride themselves on their government being accessible to people. the fact of what happened yesterday will certainly be changing that, and today, there will be a lot of questions in terms of what do we do about security in canada going forward. as for what happens today, parliament is open for business. however, it will be closed to the public. >> i guess the one bit of good news sit could have been a lot worse had it not been for kevin vickers, the sergeant in arms. he's being billed as certainly a hero, isn't he? >> reporter: that's right. you don't normally hear so much from a sergeant in arms. it's normally a very ceremonial role that they play in parliament. but he had a very long career as part of the royal canadian mountain police. and today, in fact, he is being called a hero as he was
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yesterday. on some of the local news channels here in canada, there were interviews with his brother. and it was really quite touching to hear him talk about the kind of person his brother was, and how on the one hand, he was very afraid for him, but on the other isn't very surprised to hear that he is emerging as quite a hero. >> thanks very much indeed for that. we can speak also to justinling, a journalist who was in the parliament building at the time that shooting started. justin joins us now. thanks for joining us. i'm intrigued by the prime minister saying it's business as usual. i guess -- well, you're a canadian yourself, but you're in a country full of people who are racked with concern about what's happening now. >> it's actually quite surprising. as soon as last night, i heard people expressing the exact same sentiment the prime minister did. basically saying we're going back to work. we're not taking the day off. there's no use hiding in fear. and i have the same sentiment.
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i'll be heading to parliament in a half-hour. i'll be going to the same doors that this attacker managed to make his way through and it will be business as usual. evidently things will be a bit different. the conversation will be changed. the tone will be changed. but i don't think that anybody here is suggesting that we just hunker down and put our heads in the stand. >> but as you said, the conversations will be different. the questions will be raised. not least about the preparedness or otherwise really of the police and the security forces to deal with a situation like this. >> yeah. i mean, on the one hand, it does expose the extreme deficiencies of security in ottawa. that's deficiency almost by design. the answer will come quickly. i think you'll see an increased police presence on parliament hill. you could see more restrictive access for visitors. it's not quite clear what that will look like yet. and the accompanying
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conversations, one we're already having about possibly upping powers for law enforcement agencies to track, surveil, and arrest would-be terrorists or potentially radicalized individuals. so that conversation will also be forthcoming. we know legislation is already being drafted. >> briefly, i saw a public opinion poll which suggested that 41% supported u.s.-led action against isis. another 20-plus percent felt that it should be tougher than that. is this going to tilt, do you think -- i mean, it's bound to tilt, isn't it, public views? >> sure. other polls have shown overall support for what we're doing. there's not much more we can do. we're talking about an expeditionary mission abroad. canada is limited with what it can contribute. it only has a small number of military planes that it can
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send. and until we're talking about sending in ground troops, i'm not sure there's any real viability of an increased canadian mission there. >> justin, thanks very much indeed for joining us here on "gmt." that's justin ling, who was in the parliament building at the time of the shooting. we have a lot more for you on the website, of course. you can see more pictures, video. we've got the background and analysis. among that analysis, a piece by the canadian terrorism expert on the growing problem in canada with extremism. just go to bbc.com/news and follow the links. also, you're not so far from breaking news if you're with bbc breaking twitter feed. so for all the latest as it happens, just follow @bbcbreak. -- @bbcbreaking. talk of breaking news, we have some right now. people living in northeastern nigeria are saying that members of the islamist group boko haram have abducted dozens of women
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from two villages in adamawa state. they rounded up women and girls and simply took them away. now, we don't have confirmation from the authorities. residents have said the incident occurred just a day after the nigerian military announced it had agreed a cease-fire with boko haram. and that was to involve the release of more than 200 abducted schoolgirls. the bring back our girls, girls who had been held for the last six months. the number of people with ebola is set to reach 10,000 across west africa. that's according to the world health organization, which says there are probably more ill people and deaths, but the numbers are simply underreported. the w.h.o. is meeting some of the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies and aid agencies in geneva to try to find a treatment. in liberia, dozens of people quarantined for monitoring a threatening to break out of an
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isolation unit close to the sierra leone border because they've got no food. more than 4,800 people have died so far. nearly all of them in sierra leone, liberia, and guinea. what sort of effect is the outbreak having on the economies of west africa, and indeed, individual families? simon o'connell is from the international development agency mercy corps. he's been leading research to the impacts on the liberian economy. thanks very much for joining us. can you first of all just give us a sense, in terms of impact, from the ground level for families, for example? what is the sort of hit it's having on them? >> good afternoon, david. i think the first thing to say is there's clearly a lot of anxiety and uncertainty and a tremendous amount of grief on the ground. there's also something of a breakdown in the social fabric and trust between communities as being eroded. the response needs to very much be centrally focused on
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prevention and containment. and to that end, mercy corps is launching a massive public health education program, looking to target over 2 million people in the country with coordinated, clear health messaging. >> do you get a sense -- >> i think at the same time we're seeing increasing -- >> do you get the sense that that is working? >> we're seeing progress being made certainly. it's been slow. it's been somewhat late. but we are seeing increases in progress. however, on the economic front, mercy corps has been recently over the last couple of weeks involved in an extensive assessment into the economy in the country, and we're seeing very significant erosion in people's purchasing power. we're seeing barriers to trade. over 60% of respondents to some. our questionnaires reported a loss in income. we've also seen significant
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reduction in dietary intake, reduction in meals consumed. and our concern is, of course, in liberia ravaged by 14 years of civil war, has spent the last decade recovering and it's important to note that currently gdp in liberia is around $450 per capita. that's just getting to pre-war levels. and the developments risk being eroded. >> i know mercy corps have been working liberia since 2002, so you've seen the improvement. this must be hugely frustrating. more than that in many ways. but it is what it is. if ebola is dealt with in let's say four months time or six months time, how long is it going to take to rebuild that economic structure, do you think? >> that's a good question. difficult to answer precisely right now because the situation is very fluid and we're seeing an escalation in the outbreak.
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the number one priority has to be on immediate, rapid prevention and containment. however, we're projecting currently around 1.3 million people across the three most affected countries. that's sierra leone, guinea, and liberia. in need of emergency food assistance in the first quarter and next year. if the case load continues to escalate, we're going to be looking around two to three times that level in need of this emergency assistance. so what we're looking to do is some quick, smart, well-targeted economic interventions. looking at incentivizing traders to get back out. looking at some cash injections to support perhaps infrastructure. and looking at coordinating broader support to the economies of some of these gains over the last decade aren't lost. speed in response and then scale. >> speed and scale indeed. simon o'connell, thanks very much indeed for joining us. simon is not in sierra leone or liberia or guinea at the moment.
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that coming from rabat. thanks for being with us on "bbc world news." still to come in "gmt," 30 years after the famine that killed up to a million people in ethiopia, we return to one of the worst affected areas to see how much has changed. 3rd and 3. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets. asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. you know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to frontier and emerging markets. if you convert 4-quarter p/e of the s&p 500,
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30 years ago, ethiopia was in the midst of a crippling famine. ultimately, the live aid concert in aid of victims. you may remember that. we can go live now to our correspondent mike woolridge. mike was part of the bbc team who reported from ethiopia those 30 years ago. mike, it probably feels a lot less than 30 years ago revisiting, but you can give us a picture as to how much things have changed.
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>> reporter: it absolutely does. and the tragedy that unfolded here would have remained largely hidden from the eyes of the world. if the marxist regime had had its way, for months they preventprevent ed journalists from seeing what was happening here. well finally, we were able to gain access to the region. today the landscape is green and fertile. hard to imagine it, but this was the parched plain on the outskirts where 30 years ago we saw the face of the famine that became one of the biggest disasters of modern times. dawn, and as the sun breaks through the piercing chill of night on the plain, it lights up a biblical famine. as the drought had deepened, i saw this priest handing out what food he had the previous year. even once the massive relief operation got under way, it was
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often fraught. i went to this camp where nearly 40,000 famine victims had just been forcibly expelled. the ethiopian government now admits that the hasty dispersal of these people was a mistake. and today, one ethiopian who led an international charities operation is still haunted by the memories. >> all the eyes of the mothers were on you. and the children, infants open their mouth with the gs ping and for that you have to make a choice. >> reporter: now this staple crop is produced in sufficient quantities. there's better irrigation, road access, health care, and schools. when i came 30 years ago, 15 to 20 people were dying every day here. this became known as the valley of death.
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today it seems it is thriving. what they've been trying to do is ensure the most vulnerable families are better able to withstand the hard times. and any potential future famine. this man remembers the valley as a dust bowl in 1984. now he tends this flourishing orchard. we've learned a great lesson, he tells me. you see farmers working very hard. i don't expect the area will ever see famine again. these women can now save thanks to starting this bakery. today's ethiopian government has an extensive safety net. rapid population growth, severe environmental pressure remain big challenges. and ethiopia will not be spared further droughts. the hope, though, is that the response now means that famine can be consigned to history.
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the safety net that i mentioned which began five years ago is this year assisting around 10 million people. that's about one in every nine ethiopians and that's both people who are chronically affected, as they say, and also those caught up in particular emergency needs because of drought or other factors in a particular year. now, that is one of the key tools at the moment in making sure that people don't tip over into anything that could be famine-like. but the challenges particularly -- and i mentioned there again, rapid population growth. ethiopia had 45 million people at the time of the famine in 1984. today, that has roughly doubled. it's predicted that this will become one of the ten most populous nations in the world by the middle of the century. so really, on all fronts, daunting challenges do remain. but the government confident that it can prevent any further
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outright famines. >> well, mike, always another challenge. those pictures are extraordinary. a good new story. thanks very much indeed. mike woolridge. ukrainians go to the polls this weekend in, of course, a key parliamentary election. it's a vote dominated by the ongoing military conflict in the east. and all this week, our correspondent steve rosenberg is reporting from across the country. he was in rebel-held territory on wednesday, and today, steve takes the train to the ukrainian capital kiev. >> reporter: this is the train station about 500 kilometers from the ukrainian capital. we're about to take train 732 to kiev, and along the way, i'm going to try to talk to people on the train about where they think their country is heading.
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>> reporter: this is sherry. the dog. the yorkshire terrier, who i think has taken quite a liking to me, actually.
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>> reporter: he says he was on independence square during the protests a year ago. and he says he had hopes then and in some ways his hopes have been realized, but in other ways he said things have stayed much as they were before. as we rumble through the ukrainian country side, the one thing that strikes me as i look out the window is just how peaceful everything looks. a total contrast from the conflict that continues in the east of the country, in donetsk
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and luhansk regions. on this train, we're heading west. we're heading towards kiev. and the ukrainian government says that ukraine now is heading west, moving closer to europe. but there are clearly lots of problems still on the way. >> steve rosenberg there. you're watching "gmt." growth i. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? money? time and money. awesome. awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! (all) awesome! i love logistics. to build something smarter. ♪ some come here to build something stronger. others come to build something faster... something safer...
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hello. welcome to "gmt" on "bbc world news," with me, david eads. in this half-hour, the security implications of an attack on canada's parliament and the killing of the soldier. the prime minister says the country won't be intimidated. he promises a crackdown. but why was the country ill-prepared? ♪ stand up for your right >> the bob marley legend and the author who rewrote the story of the attempt to take marley's
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life. and also on the program, aaron's back. it's the end of a very big name in telecoms. >> you remember this. take a listen. the sound of a nokia phone. they were the biggest names in the hand sets in the 1980s and '90s. but microsoft says no more. and that means nokia mobile phones will disappear. welcome back to "gmt." canadians are still coming to terms with wednesday's attack on their capital after a gunman shot and killed a soldier at an ottawa war memorial. he then entered parliament before being shot dead amidst a volley of gunfire. the security lockdown on parts of the city has now been lifted, but the parliament building
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itself and areas around it are still closed. all eyes are now on this man, michael zehaf-bibeau, the gunman. he was a canadian citizen in his early 30s and he'd converted to islam. we've got some more on the story, as samira hussein is in ottawa for us. the talk is of a prime minister determined not to be intimidated, a country, and it looks like it behind you, that wants to get on with business as usual. >> reporter: that's exactly right. people here absolutely want to get on with business as usual. i just want to give you a sense of what ottawa is like and how small this place really is, just over on my left-hand side is where the war memorial is. right now the parliament is blocked by a police barricade. it will be open for business.
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the prime minister of canada, stephen harper, was very clear in seeing that they're not going to let this event hamper any business as usual, and business will continue as usual. so parliament will be sitting in just a few hours and civil workers who are meant to turn up at work today are going to do so. with the idea that they don't want an event like this to really change them. but ultimately, something like this will change the country and it certainly will change the city. >> inevitably, i suppose, questions are being asked about how this was allowed to happen. because that level of alert had been raised. >> reporter: this is something that canada really prides itself on, that the parliament here is accessible. the monuments here are accessible. you know, since 9/11 here in canada, there has been increased security, but not the kind of security that we would see
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perhaps in other parts of the world. the united states, for example. so to give you an idea, on parliament hill during the summer months, on wednesday evenings, you have people that are taking yoga mats and, you know, having a yoga session. but this event is really going to change that. a lot of people are going to be asking questions about security. how is it possible that a gunman was able to shoot and kill a canadian soldier and then make his way to parliament and just get that close to the canadian prime minister. >> thanks very much indeed. i think it's going to be a while before the yoga mats are out. let's speak to our security correspondent frank gardner. the intriguing thing is they were tracking this guy. >> well, let's not beat around the bush. this was a major security failure. the canadian police acted with incredible speed and efficiency. they closed down the situation very quickly, so top marks to them. but hang on here.
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this guy was on a terror watch list. he'd had his passport taken away. he was a known sympathizer for extremism, as was the guy who mowed down two soldiers on monday. >> just two days earlier. >> two days earlier. so what's the point on putting somebody on a terror watch list if you don't actually watch them for acts of terrorism? so it's completely meaningless and i think that's going to prompt a revision of how canada tries to protect its citizens. it begs the question, is this going to be looked at in other western capitals? because it's weird sitting in a studio, of course, miles away from the middle east, but let's not forget there's a war going on there and a number of arab and western nations are taking part in that in air strikes against so-called isis or islamic state. canada is one of them. its war planes have just joined them. so this is not going to go away. this is going to be a risk of terrorism by lone acts for whatever is going on inside
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people's attacks. we saw it in the attack last year in london, where somebody who was a known extremist but hadn't actually committed any criminal acts. at some point he decided, i'm going to act on this, and he went off and bought a weapon and attacked somebody in broad daylight. he's in prison, as is his accomplice. in this particular case, the suspect didn't survive. >> briefly, do you think this is essentially a sign of a naive complacency? a long way from the scene of the action. you mentioned that in a sense. and they've just been caught here. >> i think it's a wake-up call for canada, sadly. lovely country. i've been there. i'm sure you've been there. a very peaceful place with, you know, a not particularly aggressive foreign policy. it will be a real surprise to them, i think. but they're not immune to terrorism and this isn't the first terrorist plot there. there was something called the toronto 18. there was a plot to capture and behead the canadian prime minister.
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so they should have been frankly a bit more on their guard than they were. >> thanks very much indeed. i should just tell you if you go to the website, our website, of course, we've got more pictures, video, background, and analysis for you. among that is a piece by the canadian terrorism expert who is explaining the growing problem with extremism in canada. so just have a look there. bbc.com/news for more. also should say if you're into twitter, and most of you are these days, it seems, we've got a very good feed for you. it's our bbc breaking twitter feed. just follow @bbcbreaking. time now to have a look at the world of business. aaron, you're a busy boy at the moment. >> we're talking about the big problems that was once the -- the what? unstoppable juggernaut of british retail. let me explain. good to see you, david. supermarket giant tesco certainly one of the world's biggest retailers has announced
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certainly a big fall in sales and profits today. at the same time, the company's chairman announced his resignation. this is following an accounting scandal. in fact, the billionaire u.s. investor warren buffett has cut his stake in tesco, calling his investment a huge mistake. now the new chief executive of tesco dave lewis brought in just to try and revive the flagging appeal. he sees an opportunity to simplify a lot of the organization, but he's going to need to do that pretty darn fast. let's go to our very own jon brain, in a tesco store around west london. great to have you on the program. let's start with this. is it fair to say tesco is probably one of the biggest victims of this changing landscape? basically brits are shopping differently nowadays. >> reporter: yes, that's exactly
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right. your description of tesco as a juggernaut of the retail sector is fairly apt. and many analysts believe that that's made it quite complacent in recent years. shopping habits have changed here in the uk, where with the reception, it was really the effect of the recession, more and more people started going to the discount chains, stores such as aldi and little, which were undercutting tesco. now tesco has failed to react. very slow about forming a new strategy. when you speak to customers here, they say that most of them we've been speaking to say they were coming to a store like this because it's convenient for them for near where they live, rather than because it competes on price. all this against the become ground of alleged accounting fraud, where profits were overstated. this is a really difficult period for one of the world's biggest retailers. >> i'm glad you said that,
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because it is a global player. even its international operations haven't been smooth-sailing. they announced they're pulling out of the u.s. problems in japan. it's a tough picture around the globe for them. >> reporter: certainly the problems in the uk seem to have manifested themselves elsewhere as well. tesco is only behind wal-mart as the biggest retailer in the world. it employs about half a million people worldwide. it's pulled out of the u.s. already. there's no talk of selling off some of the business in south korea in thailand where it's got a very big presence. but this is being described as a huge crisis for tesco and the resignation of the chairman today really does sum much of it up. so a mountain to climb to get back to that exalted status this company once had. >> slouabsolutely. jon brain from that exotic
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location. how about this? this could bring a tear to some of your eyes. it was once the biggest name in mobile phones, but now the nokia phone is set to disappear. microsoft says it's ditching the name instead of focusing -- instead, i should say, focusing on its own lumia brand. there you are. good to see you, ronan. you know, look, less than a year after agreeing with nokia and this deal that it will keep the nokia name for up to ten years, microsoft says, you know what? we don't want that nokia name attached to these hand sets. why? what's the change of heart? >> well, the nokia brand has been really struggling in the past couple of years. especially in some key markets, the smart phone markets. if you look at the u.s. or western market, nokia has been doing very well at all. the lum ya brand is much stronger nowadays.ia brand is mr
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nowadays. >> for people who buy a microsoft hand set, basically inside, that hand set itself will actually be nokia technology? >> yes, yes. it's nokia technology, developed by nokia, but microsoft technology from now. >> we know the global picture of this market of mobile phones, smart phones is so fierce. even samsung is suffering. i mean, really, isn't it a bit late for microsoft to come to this party with its own hand sets? >> it might be a little bit late in terms of manufacturing hand sets, but microsoft has been in this space for well over like six, seven years, something like that. i think for microsoft, it's really about the operating system. so they want to show with their hand sets they are manufacturing themselves that they can have a
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good system. >> okay, we're going to leave it there. we appreciate your time. thanks very much. always a pleasure having you on. ronan there. let's talk about this. low cost airlines, they've changed the travel landscape completely. but they have still not broken into a key route. that is the transatlantic flights. a new low-cost carrier called wow air, yeah, it's called wow air, is hoping to change all of that, promising the lowest airfares between europe and north america, if you're prepared to go via iceland. but can they make money from such cheap airs? that's the question i put to its founder and ceo. >> the real opportunity is not how can i fly more efficiently from a to b. it is how can i be more efficient in approaching our customers. how can i sell to them directly. and how do i do that? online. back to my background. how do i learn about the customer. how do i leverage that.
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how do i become a lot more than an airline. how can i awful a total travel experience, to sell you the hotel, the entertainment, the rental car. throughout your entire experience. that's the key, that's the opportunity, and that's the business model that the local carriers have now demonstrated. >> how much is it going to cost me to fly to north america on wow? >> we believe we can offer prices that have never been seen before. we will have the initial launch price of 99 pounds from the uk to north america. and we will have the initial price of $99 from the u.s. to europe. >> is there a demand, the you think, from passengers for a one-stop across the atlantic? >> absolutely. the fact is unless you're flying from boston to london, or boston to amsterdam, or boston to one of the major hubs in europe, you
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have to do one or two stops anyway. and that's not going to change. this is actually a key, key, key point. so we are not flying to new york. i'll be the first one to admit when i said i'm going to america, i thought, let's go to new york. why? because i love new york. but if you look at the competition, new york-london is the most populated route out there so it's most competitively priced and these are the routes that the dream liner and these larger carriers will go after. >> there you go. wow indeed. if you're watching in america, 99 bucks. 99 bucks to come over here! get on those planes. you can follow me, i'll tweet you back. that's it with the business. there are introductory offers. >> 99 and rising. from 99 and rising. i just want to bring you the latest pictures we're just getting in from canada. we've got some video which has emerged from the shooting in ottawa. and this is of the sergeant in
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arms who killed the gunman, kevin vickers. sergeant in arms. a veteran of the royal canadian mounted police. he worked for them for 29 years. he was filmed walking down a hall in the parliament building in ottawa holding his gun, and it's not quite known if the video was taken before or after vickers shot michael zehaf-bibeau, the man responsible for yesterday's killing and, of course, breaking on into parliament. those were the latest pictures for you. stay with us here on "gmt." still to come in the program -- ♪ he's a legend. bob marley. we spoke to the author who rewrote the story of the attempt to take marley's life.
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hello. i'm david eads. the top stories this hour. canadian prime minister stephen harper says his country will not be intimidated by the attacks in which two soldiers have now been killed and the national parliament infiltrated by gunmen. the red cross says it's recovering between 70 and 100 bodies a day of people who have died of the ebola virus in the capital of sierra leone, freetown. now, december 3rd, 1976. let's go back to then. two weeks before jamaica's general election and rival political factions were warring on the streets of kingston. seven men with machine guns stormed into the home of the singer bob marley, one of the voices calling for peace at the time. the assassination attempt has inspired the novel "a brief history of seven killings." we'll be speaking in just a moment to the author, but first, let's have a bit of bob marley for you.
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♪ stand up for your right get up stand up stand up for your right ♪ ♪ come on little darling ♪ >> any excuse for the music. with me is marlon james, author of the book "a brief history of seven killings." we've got the book here. i'm going to ask you to read a little bit from it in a moment. but first of all, this was back in 1976. you were a little boy then. >> i was 6. >> what was the fascination for you so much later in your life? >> i think because it was always a mystery. my mother was from the police. at one time, both my parents were police. so it was just something that, you know, adults spoke about it. and the way adults speak. you know, in code with children
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around. this was different. there was always a shooting somewhere, but you knew some line had been crossed. something was different. there was a fear in people's voices. >> i suppose also if you were living through that when you were little in the '70s and '80s, you don't sort of recognize quite how extreme life is then either. >> no. >> you maybe realize that later. >> you just think that's normal. you just think that's how life is. the 1980 election, there was a shootout outside my mom's office and she was criminal intelligence. so you don't realize the impact of it until pretty later on. >> got the book here. i only just realized there was a record on the front cover. says something about my powers of observation. but if you wouldn't mind, one little paragraph. because this is written in the dialects of the different individuals, if you like, in the novel. >> this is actually a west kingsland dialect.
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plenty people pick the bad they know over the good they can only dream about. because who can dream about madmen and fool. sometimes wars start because you forget why you fight. sometimes you're tired of warring. sometimes people who dared come back to you in your sleep and you can't remember their name. and sometimes you come to see who you're supposed to fight, not even your enemy. >> sometimes wars stop because you forget why they started. it's a great line. do you think that the sort of -- the whole way in which people have perceived their own security ever since has changed as a rule of that? are they still living in a fragile world? >> it gets occasionally fragile. there is also a lot of stability. but the problem with the stability is the slightest thing can throw it off. so recently there was a whole sort of -- all of that conflict over the extradition where even after all we've been through, it just took us right back to that
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1976, 1980 kind of thing. so it's like war and the memory of war. >> of course, bob marley got out pretty quick, didn't he, after that attempt on his life? how much did you learn about him as a human being, i guess? i mean, we all know him as an icon. >> so much. one, because of how the killing kind of in a lot of ways severed that tie between him and jamaica. he came back in 1978 and did another concert, but i think it's changed. a song speaks about it. even before you get to the chorus and he talks about just how afraid jamaica has become, that his assassination attempt almost seems like it was inevitable. >> you yourself are being recognized as one of the literary forces of your part of the world now, which is obviously great for you. but in a sense, do you feel that we're moving into a new generation, a new era of caribbean work even? >> yeah, i think so.
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you know, we're -- >> we're still hung up on the post-colonial stuff. >> we're trying to make sense of wearing nike sneakers. how that cross-pollination between u.s. and jamaica. but still in all sorts of ways. everybody listens to massive attack. and jay-z. so that whole idea. and also the whole idea that it's still music that's bridging everything. >> that is intriguing. because you live in minneapolis. >> yeah. >> so you've got the american slant. we often hear, for example -- and this is a bit post-colonial, but the cricket struggles as a pastime compared to, say, basketball. that is the way it's going, isn't it? >> i think right now it's still almost -- the love of cricket and love of basketball is still sort of neck and neck. but there are more options and we're not sure we know what to do with those options yet.
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cricket is in really bad shape. >> that wasn't the purpose of you coming on to talk about cricket. marlon, thanks very much indeed for joining us. a brief history of seven killings. it is a novel. >> yes. >> it's not all based around fact. but very interesting tale. we've just got time to bring you our top story here on "gmt." obviously it's about canada. the country still coming to terms with wednesday's attack on the capital, ottawa. after a gunman shot and killed a soldier at a war memorial. the man is -- well, he was a canadian citizen. he's been named now. we know he was michael zehaf-bibeau. after the shooting at the war memorial, where he killed the soldier there, he entered parliament itself before being shot dead. now, the prime minister steven harper has said his country will not be intimidated by such attacks. the latest pictures that have emerged out of canada focus very much on the hero of the hour really, kevin vickers, sergeant
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at arms, a veteran of the royal canadian mounted police. he shot bibeau in the parliament hall. we've seen pictures of them walking down that hall before the shooting started, a volley of fires. that's the latest here on "gmt." thanks for being with us. [ male announcer ] some come here to build something smarter. ♪ some come here to build something stronger. others come to build something faster... something safer...
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