hello, welcome to "gmt." i'm lucy hockings. france in shock and mourning after wednesday's deadly terrorist attack. as the country starts to deal with the aftermath of the attacks, there is another shooting in paris. a policewoman is dead. the bells of notre dame cathedral tolled and a minute's silence was held for the victims of yesterday's attack. public transport came to a standstill. in the southern suburb of montrouge, a policewoman was killed when a man opened fire at

the scene of a road accident. what we don't know yet is whether there was a connection to yesterday's attack. there is still a huge sense of fear across paris. the city feeling like it's in lockdown. but we are now getting reports that the two men suspected of having carried out the attack on the "charlie hebdo" magazine have been spotted. we're going to bring you the latest on the operation to track them down. and defiance in the face of terror. cartoons are published around the world in response to the terrorist attacks. we'll be taking a look at satire and how it makes sense in this kind of violence. welcome to "gmt." it's 1:00 p.m. in paris where the bells of notre dame cathedral have tolled and a minute's silence has been observed.

we've had we understand a sighting of the two men suspected of the attacks on the french magazine where 12 people were killed. they're reported to have robbed a service station in the north of france. they stole food and petrol firing shots as they struck at a roadside stop near villers-cotterets in the region just near paris. you can see there just to the north of paris. we're going to bring you the developments as they happen here on "gmt." but let's start our coverage by bringing you right up to date with emily buchanan. >> reporter: amidst the tension and the grief, the bells of notre dame cathedral tolled. france stood together in a minute's silence. public transport at a standstill. a moment to digest the full horror of the killings. as the country reels from the bloodshed, today there was more shooting. this is the suburb of montrouge just south of the capital. the emergency services flocked here after a man wearing a flak jacket opened fire with an

automatic rifle. a policewoman was killed and a street cleaner was seriously injured. the interior minister rushed to the scene, but cautioned against making links to wednesday's attack on the satirical magazine. the president francois hollande said the country had been struck in the heart and called the attack on "charlie hebdo" an act of exceptional barbarism. in a show of unity, his long-standing political opponent nicolas sarkozy said it was an attack on democracy itself. >> translator: civilized people irrespective of their beliefs, should unite in the face of this barbarism, this fanatical barbarism. this is a war that has been declared against civilization, and the responsibility of the civilization is to defend itself and that's what we have decided to do. >> reporter: france is on its highest level of alert and a massive security operation has been under way all night. this was in the early hours

where police commandos raided a building. one of the suspects hamyd mourad is believed to be from here. he has now surrendered at a police station. but two other suspects the brothers cherif and said kouachi, are still armed and dangerous. this is cherif from a news report ten years ago. the brothers have been seen in a car with registration plates masked. police fear they may now be heading back into paris, possibly determined to die in another bloody attack. >> translator: these individuals were known to the intelligence services, and because they were known, they would have been followed. we are facing an unprecedented terrorist threat. both within france and overseas. the police and justice system have dismantled a number of groups which were planning terrorist attacks. that is proof that we are taking action. >> reporter: the french president has declared three days of national mourning. but no one can relax.

the gunmen are still at large and the authorities are in a race to prevent more loss of life. emily buchanan bbc news. in a moment we're going to be taking you live to paris and lyse doucet. but first, i wanted to keep you up to date with a few news lines. frank gardner has been speaking to french officials, and he said they have told him that they have high confidence that the two kouachi brothers are the only two suspects directly involved in yesterday's attack but there may well be terrorists. and from our colleagues in paris, they're just letting us know that they've been hearing from french officials who say these two suspects to bring you more details of this latest sighting of them were spotted in a light gray renault clio. a witness told the police they were masked and armed. the car's registration plates, which is interesting, were also

masked. the worry for police right now, they say they believe these two men may be heading back to paris. so there's further operation in place. armed officers are being posted at access points right around paris because the fear from the police, what they're telling us is that they believe these brothers may be determined to die in another attack in paris. that is the very latest that we're hearing from our bureau there. as i mentioned, we will take you live to paris in a moment. but the other development today which caused huge fear and shock paris was this separate shooting that we saw this morning. a policewoman was killed when a man opened fire at the scene of a road accident. this happened in the southern suburb of montrouge. the bbc's damian grammaticus went there he has more for us. >> reporter: this is the scene here in the south of paris, jut south of the center. you can see where the street is blocked off there. what we have is the police line

where they have cordoned off that area. it's just a little bit up there where that shooting happened this morning. what an eyewitness said was that there was a man dressed in black who came out, we think out of a car, ran up to a police officer, shot them at point-blank range. one other person was shot, too. a street cleaner or something like that who was here at the scene. that man then fled. paramedics who came here were unable to save the life of the police officer, who was a policewoman, and as far as we know according to the interior minister, that suspect is still at large. but here we've seen there's been armed police units in this area and of course still police activity further up the street there, too. >> damian grammaticas there in montrouge. we can join our chief international correspondent lyse doucet, who is there. we've just been hearing from

damian who was at that suburb of montrouge where the shooting took place this morning. we're now getting more details about the two brothers the renault clio car, the fact that police feel they may be on their way back to paris for another attack. just give us a sense of how it feels to be in paris right now, the shock but also perhaps the fear of what could be happening next. >> everyone is talking about this lucy this morning in paris, the day after this unprecedented attack. some people have said to me that when they got on the subway this morning, everyone was looking at the people all around them worrying that perhaps there could be another attack. some people have spoken of their fears, of not being safe here in the city. and yet we have seen such defiance. a response right across the country. the people who came here. last night, all through the night, thousands of people gathering here saying no to this attack not just on our

much-loved satirical magazine, on satire itself but no to any attacks on our democracy, on to our way of life, our belief in the principles and values that we live by. and so france feels very much divided at what is very much a defining moment in this country. as you say, the police operation, an unprecedented police operation is under way. most of all, the manhunt for cherif and said kouachi, the two men in their 30s who are the chief suspects. the french media were reporting, as you've said, they were in a gray car. they were spotted close to a petrol station with masks on carrying their weapons. even a rocket launcher. a rocket launcher in paris? and now reports that they're heading back to paris, and concern that they may try to stage another bloody attack. that if they're going to die, they want to die making another statement. but of course that's just speculation. for the moment the emphasis is on trying to find the two men who are suspected of being

behind the worst attack in half a century here in france. >> imams in france have been urged to condemn yesterday's attack at friday prayers, but we've already seen some reprisals. is there fear in the muslim community of a backlash? >> reporter: yes, there was an attack in the east of france at a kebab shop close to a mosque. it was dealt with very delicately. no one died in that. but the deputy mayor said that he called for solidarity among french people at this painful moment calling on french people to be together at this time because yes, there is a concern that there could be a backlash against the muslim community, in a country which has the fastest muslim community in europe, where there have been strains between the immigrant french-speaking muslim community and the rest of french society. but today there have been calls from right across society. as you say, the imams of the

mosque have been asked to join in this call for all of france to stand together. yesterday, francois hollande, the president, when he visited the scene of the attack, he said that our unity has to be our greatest strength. >> paris is still on a state of high alert, of course. the highest security level that they can be. do you get a sense of an unprecedented security operation under way in the capital? >> reporter: it's described as massive and unprecedented. hundreds of police officers across the country. if i look around the palace de la republique, they're in all directions. we saw the police out in force around the square last night. it's always in every society, including france a balance between making a country feel that they're in a state of war, but also protecting french citizens. and this is a time where french citizens really do want to feel that they are protected, they are safe in their own homes, on

their own streets, in their own country. >> thanks so much for updating us. lyse doucet updating us there from central paris. we'll return to her later here on "gmt" to bring you up to date with events in paris. but let's look now at the broader issues. so much soul-searching taking place in france and across europe today. many questions are being asked about extremism. let's talk now to the president of the menhaj movement in france, which works to counter counterradicalism. can i get your reaction to what we've seen in the past 24 hours? >> good afternoon. we are deeply saddened and we condemn firmly what happened. whatever has been done is against islam. the people who are saying that they are doing this for islam are betraying islam.

let us say also our sympathy and prayers are for the victims and their family. >> do you think that that is what is being said in mosques today at friday prayers across france? >> yes. i have no doubt on this. you know there is radicalization of youth, which is increasing and we see the result by this act yesterday. but the muslim community in france is a very mature community. this maturity -- this is because it's a very old community, and they are moderate and they know what is islam. the problem of radicalization is here and we have seen the result yesterday. >> it is such a big challenge addressing the radicalization when you've seen 700 young frenchmen go to fight in syria and iraq as well. what needs to be done? >> yes, indeed.

this is i think the crucial problem. what needs to be done, at every level. a responsibility to act accordingly, and to check the borders and to check the traveling of these people. and also i think the big responsibility is also on the muslim side, our community. i mean the first responsibility is that the parents have to follow what their children are looking and following on internet. what sites they are visiting. i think in europe the crisis of the children starts at this level. so this radicalization starts at this point. the role of the imams, the leaders and associations is to have a monitoring and to follow up of this youth. and to tell them that the real

face of islam is truth, peaceful and the face of harmony of this religion. and for that we are using a very powerful tool that is a treaty of 600 pages that was written recently 600 pages explaining how this terrorism and extremism are condemnable in islam. >> can i ask you before we let you go how big the problem is as well with france's prison system? because we know one of the kouachi brothers has already had time in prison. are a lot of young men being radicalized there as well? >> yes. we think so. because as you said. one of them has visited prison. so he's radicalized over there. so i think the responsibility of the government is to choose and to care about the imams that are visiting the prisons, and also

to have a follow-up, and to follow all of them during all their prison life so that they are away from all the radical messages. >> thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with us today. thank you for joining us on "gmt." we want to bring you an image we have just received of where the two suspects in the attack yesterday were reportedly seen. i was just bringing you the news that we've been hearing from this part of france. and we've now received this picture. as you can see, it's a petrol station. that's a stop on one of the main routes out of paris towards the northeast of france. it's about a third of the way from paris to the belgian border. what witnesses are saying is that they saw two men in a vehicle, they had several guns a rocket launcher and masks. the other detail we heard as well is that the car was a light gray renault clio and that the car's registration plates as well were masked. so you can see the police are on

the scene there. but this is as we understand the petrol station where that sighting took place. the other news we have is that armed officers are being posted across paris because the fear is that the two brothers, cherif and said kouachi, may be on their way back to paris with the intention possibly of another attack and dying in another attack. we're keeping right across all the developments for you in paris. we're going to return live to the french capital later on "gmt." but if you want to go online as well do go to bbc.com/news we have a page there that just updates minute by minute. all the information we are receiving, comments tweets, social media. it's all there for you, so do go to the website as well. do stay with us. still to come on "gmt." we'll have more as i mentioned from paris. the police hunt for two brothers suspected to have carried out wednesday's deadly attack at the office of a satirical magazine. we'll return you there in a minute. the worlds you've been dreaming of.

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some breaking news to bring you from here in london. we are just hearing that the british government has said it is going to increase security at its borders, including at ports and at check-points that operate on french soil. this is in response to yesterday's deadly terrorist attack in paris. we've heard from a spokeswoman for the prime minister david cameron. she said this extra security is not based on any specific intelligence that they have. there are no plans to raise the country's terror alert. we know in paris it's at its highest level right now, but not here in the uk because currently that threat level is already at its second-highest level as well. david cameron says this is a challenge to our security, we have to fight this terrorism with everything we have. it is also a challenge to our values. when it comes to security we

must use every part of vigilance and security that we have. those comments just being made by the british prime minister david cameron. we're going to bring you the very latest from paris in a moment, but first, let's update you on the day's other news. a harsh winter snowstorm has enveloped much of lebanon, jordan and turkey, adding to the misery of the three million refugees who have fled the conflict in syria. our middle east correspondent paul wood visited one of the refugee camps in eastern lebanon. >> reporter: this is what lebanon's permanent refugee crisis looks like kids dressed more for summer than winter some with flip-flops in this freezing temperature. this is now the fourth winter of the syrian war, the fourth winter that refugees here in lebanon have been living under canvas in these atrocious conditions. and getting used to it doesn't make it any easier. in fact, the u.n. aid agency says it's providing emergency winter assistance to no less than 660,000 people. >> miserable conditions there as

snow envelopes the middle east. voting is well under way in sri lanka's presidential election with the incumbent hoping for a third term. he's being challenged by his former health minister. around 15 million people are expected to vote at more than 12,000 polling stations. the u.s. and u.n. has said the election should be fair peaceful and inclusive. police in indonesia say they have identified 24 of the 40 bodies recovered from the airasia crash. the tail was found upturned on the seabed. 162 people were onboard the flight when it disappeared on the 28th of december. the ebola virus has now killed more than 8,000 people and infected more than 20,000. almost all of them in west africa. because it can still be transmitted after death, the way

victims' bodies are buried is crucial to stop the outbreak from spreading. tulip mazumdar has spent the day with a burial team from the sierra leone red cross and she filed this report. >> reporter: the body collectors of freetown getting ready for another harrowing day at work. they've been doing this for months now. beneath these intimidating suits, teachers students ordinary sierra leoneans are volunteering to take on this unrelenting fight against ebola. but this is just as important. talking to the community so they understand why removing bodies this way is so crucial. >> we have to tell everybody about the dangers of this epidemic which is ebola, because some people are denying. we have to tell them that it is real and they have to follow the principles. >> reporter: the team braced

themselves and head in. this man died in the early hours of this morning, according to his family. teams have already been inside to get samples to confirm whether this is an ebola death. almost every death has to be treated as ebola. if it's confirmed, the rest of this community remains a risk. in the next village, another heartbreaking scene. a 3-week-old baby died late last night. his name was alpha. health workers say it's unlikely to be ebola. but they can't take any risks. it's very difficult work for you? >> of course very differently. very difficult work. >> reporter: how many bodies do you think you've collected like this? >> hundreds of bodies. >> reporter: when you go home do you think about the day? do you have dreams about what you've seen? >> sometimes.

sometimes i will. if i go to bed, i pray you know? sometimes i think about things, but i get over them. >> reporter: another home another body another distraught daughter. the man died after showing classic symptoms of ebola. this is the fourth body that the burial team here has come to collect in as many hours. it's the body of a 37-year-old man, he complained of feeling unwell over the weekend. by yesterday, last night, in fact he was dead. here's how the day ends. at the capital's main cemetery. baby alpha is laid to rest. his father whispering a solemn prayer. tulip mazumdar bbc news freetown. do stay with us. coming up in the next half-hour here on "gmt," we'll take you live again to paris and bring you right up to date with

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armed officers, we understand have been posted at access points into the capital. the two suspects have also reportedly robbed a service station. this happened in aisne, just north of paris. they stole food petrol firing shots as they stopped near villers-cotterets. we have a picture for you, a stop on one of the main routes out of paris towards northeastern france. it's about a third of the way from paris to the belgian border and witnesses have been speaking, they say that the two men in the vehicle had several guns. they also had a rocket launcher. they had masks on their face and also the registration plate on the car that they were driving was also masked as well. let's bring you up to date with the bbc's emily buchanan. >> reporter: amidst the tension and the grief, the bells of

notre dame notre dame tolled together. public transport at a standstill. a moment to digest the full horror of the killings. as the country reels from the bloodshed, today there was more shooting. this is the suburb of montrouge, just south of the capital. the emergency services flocked here after a man wearing a flak jacket opened fire with an automatic rifle. a policewoman was killed and a street cleaner was seriously injured. the interior minister rushed to the scene, but cautioned against making links to wednesday's attack on the satirical magazine. the president francois hollande said the country had been struck in the heart, and called the attack on "charlie hebdo" an act of exceptional barbarism. in a show of unity, his long-standing political opponent nicolas sarkozy said it was an attack on democracy itself. >> translator: civilized people irrespective of their beliefs, should unite in the face of this barbarism, this fanatical bash

rim -- barbarism. this is a war that has been declared against civilization and the responsible of the civilization is to defend itself, and that's what we have decided to do. >> reporter: france is on its highest level of alert and a massive security operation has been under way all night. this was in the early hours where police commandos raided a building. one of the suspects hamyd mourad, is believed to be from here. he has now surrendered at a police station. but two other suspects brothers cherif and said kouachi, are still armed and dangerous. this is cherif from a news report ten years ago. the brothers have been seen in a car with registration plates masked. police fear they may now be heading back into paris, possibly determined to die in another bloody attack. >> translator: these individuals are known to the intelligence service and they would have been followed. we are facing an unprecedented terrorist threat.

both within france and overseas. the police and justice system have dismantled a number of groups which were planning terrorist attacks. that is proof that we are taking action. >> reporter: the french president has declared three days of national mourning. but no one can relax. the gunmen are still at large and the authorities are in a race to prevent more loss of life. emily buchanan, bbc news. let's take you to paris now, we can join our correspondent there, hugh schofield. hugh firstly bring us right up to date with everything you know about the manhunt for the two suspects. >> yes, well, it's been moving very fast in the last hour or so. there have been reports of their car, a light gray renault clio being seen on roads northeast of paris. not far. about 40, 50 kilometers away from paris. and a credible source, according

to police, said that the men were armed, or visibly armed inside the car, and indeed masked. this gave rise to speculation that they may be heading back into paris. and the latest is that there has been beefed up security with armed officers at access points into paris. by that i mean paris proper the inside bit of paris, not the outskirts. paris is surrounded by a ring road and there are various points into paris under the ring road, and those are being manned by armed officers now. it remains to be seen whether this is a false alarm. it may be that the men are not heading into paris, but clearly, it's been taken sufficiently seriously by police that they've mounted this extraordinary deployment at the various access points and that is where we are now. a great state of tension inside paris, because of these two men on the run, but also of course

because of a third man on the run from the killing of the officer earlier this morning. >> yeah, hugh, just give us an idea today talking to the other parisians about how they're feeling. one of the other eyewitnesss at this petrol station said also that these men had a rocket launcher not just arms. it must be terrifying for some people thinking that they are coming back into paris possibly to launch another attack. >> yes. i mean, the rocket launcher -- i think we need to be sort of slightly careful with. there was talk of a rocket launcher yesterday. eyewitnesss aren't necessarily great judges of what kind of weaponry they are, but that's a minor point. the big point is you're right, there is a possibility, taken seriously by police therefore taken seriously by everyone, that they are heading back into paris. of course, you can imagine what that does in a big city like this. people go about their business. it's highly unlikely that any particular individual would ever see anything or be involved in anything, but on the other hand, it is very very much on

everyone's minds that these people are coming back. they've already wreaked havoc and murdered 12 people. it may be that they want to murder more particularly police officers. among the security forces there must be a great sense of tension and preparedness and fear that they may be caught up in a bloody fight with people who are very, very well-armed, extremely brutal and callous, and prepared to take on the security forces and probably die in the attempt. >> hugh obviously what is happening right now is what is occupying most people's minds, because the manhunt continues. but are some of the bigger questions starting to be asked as well as some common themes emerging as the soul-searching begins? >> well, i mean yes. these themes were around before yesterday, and they've been accentuated by what happened yesterday. the themes of you know how to

accommodate a form of extremist islam into our societies in western europe. those questions were there before yesterday, but obviously they are more and more on everyone's minds. there are many people saying there will be a before and an after yesterday. in other words policies will have to change. there will have to be some new assessment of security. there will have to be some new pressure on the broad mass of muslims to speak out and disown the tiny minority who behave like this. but of course it's easy in a time of sorrow and mourning for people to talk about the need for unity. my fear is that when things quieten down and the tension eases that you know what will end is not unity, but more division. more people pushing in different directions. >> and, hugh getting into the office today you know walking around paris, is there any -- can you see the visible police presence? is it obvious in the public

transport system and at, you know shopping malls and other big places in the city that there are more people on the streets? >> my personal experience was that i cycled to work, i cycled in this morning, i cycled past two military vehicles and a bus full of soldiers. that, i would not normally have seen. i saw an balance stopped by two -- driven by a driver who looked of north african, muslim appearance being stopped by traffic wardens or traffic police being questioned. so yes, there is a visible sense of the change that has kicked in since yesterday. and there is a sense that deep inside everyone that the atmosphere has changed. there is tension, there is unease, and people are bewildered. >> we're continuing to update people on the manhunt. we're going to leave that there with you in paris for the moment. because i believe we can take you to the petrol station where

these two suspects cherif and said kouachi were spotted. we can take you right there now. damian grammaticas is there for us. what's being said there about what happened today, what was seen? >> reporter: yes. as you say, lucy this is the place where this sighting is said to have happened. it's very rainy here. we're about an hour outside paris to the north, slightly east of paris in the end department. the town of villers-cotterets is just up the road. it's a big road out of paris. this is where the manager of this petrol station it's reported claimed that this morning, this gray car came here with the two suspects. it's reported that they held up the petrol station. they took petrol and food and then left. now, the police here say they won't comment, and they have

just told us that the local prosecutor has also said that there will be no comment about what happened here but there are police teams here who were inside the petrol station who are conducting investigations there. what i can tell you too is that we have seen on the roads here not very far away the road junctions down from here armed police stationed at road junctions and helicopters, military helicopters in the skies have been flying over the country side and the road around this area. so a lot of police activity around here. >> damian, police are telling you that they fear these two men in their car may be headed back into paris. possibly to launch another attack. >> reporter: they haven't said that to me but what we do know is that those men, the witnesses, or the witness here is reported to have said that they were seen driving off back down the road that direction, which would take you back heading towards paris. we are about an hour away.

and it's in that direction where there have been police stationed at junctions. as hugh was saying just a minute or two ago, police all the way back down as far as paris are also on alert on the main roads coming in to there. i think it seems to indicate that they are facing some credibility here certainly on what they have been told here following this up as a potential sighting. and with all the activity, you'd assume they seem to appear that the idea that these people are moving around and have been seen possibly in this area is something the police are concerned about. and police teams just going past heading in that direction, too. >> thanks so much for the update from that petrol station north of paris. damian just confirming there that armed officers have been posted along that road all the way into paris, and we understand a big police operation is under way.

there is a fear that the two suspects cherif and said kouachi are in a car and may be heading become to paris. there is one other piece of news to bring you, and that is that the publishers of the magazine "charlie hebdo" have said that their next edition will come out as planned. their website currently features this image, a reflection of the slogan which is being used to support the publication after the deadly attack je suis charlie. "charlie hebdo" will publish next wednesday. one of its columnists patrick alou said the magazine will have to be put together away from its offices, but he said that he and all of his colleagues are suffering with grief, but they would do it anyway because stupidity will not win. as i mentioned, we will keep you up to date with events in paris, but let's bring you the business now. aaron is with us. big tech giant in trouble, aaron. >> well, having some problems but it's a real sort of turn of the tables at the moment for samsung. let me explain. good to see you, lucy.

thanks very much. hello there. they makeey make fridges and freezers. they make washing machines. but i tell you what the sales of its smart phones have been causing the bosses at samsung to have some pretty sleepless nights. yes, the south korean tech giant's mobile division its biggest business i have to say, has been struggling to maintain its dominance inand the firm announced it will be making far less money than it has in the past. let me show you this. samsung electronics is now forecasting a near 37.5% fall a big fall in quarterly profit from a year earlier. in its forecast the firm said its profit will be around nearly $4.75 billion in the two months for december. the company is still the largest manufacturer of mobile phones accounting for 70% of the profits. phenomenal. stiff competition from the likes

of -- i know who you're thinking. apple certainly in the premium end. and also those cheaper smart phones from chinese rivals is making it more difficult for samsung to thrive. the bbc's tech guru rory jones caught up with the samsung president. mr. lee believes smart household appliances connected to the web, the so-called internet of things, is now the future for the company. >> well, a smart phone is a tool. it's a means to get there. i think we're hitting a very natural point where the early adopters and the early players are really making it available with different options to many fast followers. so i don't really see this as a setback. i see this as a natural settlement of the industry. so we're looking for the next big thing the next innovation which happens to be that we believe in internet of things. >> and do you believe then that if you succeed in this internet

of things business, people will stop talking about whether you're losing out to i don't know, cheap chinese rivals and apple, in the smart phone area? >> well nothing stays forever. what we're striving to do is to really lead the market and push the envelope of innovation. we surely believe the internet of things is the next envelope for innovation and we're very confident that we can lead the next paradigm in technology. i think confidence is a relative thing. i think we've never lost confidence. >> there you go. from one tech guru to another let's go straight over to dave lee, our technology correspondent. good to see you, mate. it feels like it wasn't that long ago where you and i would be talking every three-month period about record profit after record profit for the south korean giants. but boy, you know things have changed a bit for samsung, haven't they? >> they certainly lost some of that momentum. i'm convinced that somewhere in the south korean headquarters of samsung, there's a lot of

executives throwing spaghetti against as many walls as they can, to see what will stick this year. unfortunately, all that seems to be falling off the wall and on to the floor. so they're really scrambling around at the moment to see how they can keep the momentum they enjoyed the past couple of years and keep that going. because what we mentioned in the intro there, the cheaper chinese rivals are really making very very good finds for less money, and apple at the premium end is making expensive finds with much bigger margins on those devices as well. so samsung suddenly found itself in the middle without any real purpose. >> it's interesting, because it makes you wonder -- certainly begs the question how does samsung compete with the cheaper chinese rivals. but i'm also wondering, we just heard from the vice president about the internet of things. i mean has this sort of fall in the smart phone market for samsung, has it refocused their minds to look at other areas of innovation? >> i think it's certainly forced them to look at other areas. i think focus actually is the problem. and we heard in a clip there

that he said we're looking for the next big thing. that would suggest that they haven't found out what it's going to be yet. so they're still hedging their bets. the internet of things is a very interesting phenomenon. it's the idea that various bits of our lives are going to be connected to the internet whether it's a fridge or washing machine or shoes, or various other things. what that suggests is again this suggestion that they're going to try as many different things as they can and hope one of them comes off. >> yeah, absolutely. dave, we appreciate your time. thank you. that is it with the business for now, lucy. >> aaron, good to see you, thanks so much. do stay with us here on "bbc world news." still to come we'll bring you more from paris as the police hunt for two brothers suspected to have carried out wednesday's deadly attack at the office of the satirical magazine "charlie hebdo" continues. we'll also get reaction from a writer who works in the industry.

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i'm lucy hockings. our top stories this hour. the two men suspected of carrying out the massacre on the "charlie hebdo" magazine where 12 people were killed have been spotted heading towards paris in a car after robbing this petrol station to the east of the city. armed police have been posted at access points into the capital. there's also been a second shooting in paris this morning. a policewoman was killed when a man opened fire at the scene of a road accident. it's not known if there was a connection to wednesday's attack. what's been significant in the wake of the attacks is the massive online reaction. many people have been going on to twitter and other sites to declare je suis charlie, i am charlie. many cartoonists have been using that slogan in drawings that they've done in commemoration and solidarity. so how important is satire in france europe and across the world? we will keep you up to date with

developments in paris but we're going to discuss that now over the next few minutes with richard west, the co-founder of "the vacuum," a satirical publication based in northern ireland. what was your first reaction when you heard about this? did it feel like it was an assault on your profession? >> horror. i think just like most people, it seems like a senseless act that bears no relation to publishing a newspaper. >> and what's been your experience with the vacuum? >> with the vacuum, we published two issues in 2004 which have a sort of thematic issue. and this caused a controversy for people complaining about what we published, and as we kardashian as -- as it developed, there was lots of publicity, lots of arguments courting cases. but i think looking back on it because this was in 2004 looking back on it from this perspective, ten years later, i

think it's striking how it blew everything out of proportion and there was very little attention to what was actually said and what people were complaining about. i mean at the end of the process that went on for a number of years, we discovered there was only ever one complaint. so i think my response to this aside from horror at the actions, is that it almost certainly bear no, sirs no relation to what was actually published. it was people making up their own minds. >> did you feel personally under threat at that time your physical safety? >> no we didn't. i mean northern ireland is probably has more religious observance than the rest of the uk but i think that we didn't feel that we were under physical threat. i think that as in most journalism, you feel that there's a constant anxiety about doing the right thing. you're under pressure. there are laws that you have to obey. and you're constantly concerned not to commit libel or whatever

else. but you still want to speak freely. >> what will happen now, though in the industry? because we've had some cartoonists come out today, bill tidy saying that cartoonists need to pull back from criticizing religions. do you agree with them? >> i don't. i think going back to what i said about having one complaint, i think that at the end of the day, it comes down to paying attention. each publication will have particular things that are their editorial interests and they should follow those interests and they shouldn't be inhibited by these threats. they should feel free to speak their mind. >> richard, thank you for being with us. i just want to tell everyone a quote that has been on social media a lot today from voluntary that says i detest what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it. that's what's been tweeted a lot today. let me remind you of the latest

details. these two suspects believed to have carried out the attack on "charlie hebdo," cherif and said kouachi, have been spotted in a car northeast of paris. a witness at a petrol station told police the two men were masked and armed. police believe they may be heading back to paris and a massive security operation is now in place. stay with us here on "bbc world news" for more coverage. solutions to enable global commerce that can help your company grow steadily and quickly. great job. (mandarin) ♪ ♪ cut it out. >>see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪

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