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hello. you're watching "gmt." i'm tim willcox. our top stories. egypt's revenge for the apparent slaughter of 21 of its coptic christians. fighter jets strike islamic state militants training camps, weapons catches, across the border in libya. as denmark mourns its dead two men are charged with attacking a synagogue and a cafe. we hear from the danish foreign minister. >> we need to stay together not split our societies. we need to live our lives without fear. coming up, putting the opposition through the ringer.
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lg executives face charges of deliberating vandalizing rival samsung's washing machines and fridges at a store in germany. also in the program, aaron is here and it's deja vu all over again. >> see what are you did there, tim? another big powwow between european ministers and the greek government. and once again, trying to thrash out a deal to keep the euro zone together. but i tell you what don't hold your breath german's finance minister says greece sacramentoing irresponsible and he's skeptical a deal today will be reached. hello. it is midday here in london 1:00 in rome 2:00 p.m. in cairo, where overnight egyptian war planes targeted islamic state positions in libya, apparently for the first time. the strikes came just hours after the extremist group released a grisly video showing the apparent beheading of 21 egyptian christians they've been
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holding hostage for weeks. a spokesman for the libyan prime minister says the operation was coordinated with the libyan government. eyewitnesss say the eastern libyan city of derna, which is held by the jihadists, was hit. the video, purporting the show the mass beheading of the coptic christian hostages was released late on sunday by those affiliated with islamic state. the men were seized from the coastal town of sirte in libya. president sisi earlier threatened retaliation. nick giles has this report. >> reporter: turning shock and outrage into action. in darkness egyptian air force f-16s taxi and take off. the egyptian military says the target of its air strikes were jihadist camp training sites, and weapons stores in neighboring libya, following the brutal mass killing there of egyptian coptic christians by militants aligned to islamic
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state. in the egyptian capital, cairo, egyptians had woken to angry newspapers calls for revenge. >> i swear this is a criminal terrorist act, done by people who have absolutely nothing to do with religion and personally, i didn't sleep last night, after what happened. all egyptians couldn't sleep. and i'm very happy with president sisi's reaction. >> translator: it gives the whole world a horrible and disgusting image of islam and arab countries. this is imposed on us by foreign countries or terrorist groups, to be more specific. >> reporter: a recent attack on a major hotel in the libyan capital, tripoli, claimed by islamist militants, had already fueled fears that jihadists pledging loyalty to islamic states are gaining an swreegz foothold here as the country descends further into chaos, lawlessness, and battles between militias following the overthrow of colonel gadhafi in 2011. the latest events would surely
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stoke those fears further. the coptic christians who were killed were mostly from an impoverished egyptian village, who'd sought worth in libya. in egypt and beyond the sorrow of their murder is mixed with the anguished belief that they were killed because they were christian. >> there was a statement made in that hideous video, that said that this was being done as a retaliation, because of what they were calling coptic crusaders, a ridiculous notion where coptic christians were forcefully converting muslim women to christianity. which is just unfounded, unbelievable. >> reporter: a somber president sisi meets egyptian coptic leaders. in all the emotional fallout from what's happened the international community is trying to get to grips for what this all means for the struggle against islamic state. nick chiles bbc news. >> let's get the very latest from egypt.
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we can join our correspondent, sally nabil, who joins us from cairo. the fact that this is the first acknowledged strike inside libyan territory is this something of a game changer, alal al sally? >> reporter: in a way, yes. we have also to say that before a month, before egypt has totally denied being involved in any air strike campaign inside the libyan territory, but today, the army has a message to send so the public here in egypt. it has to appease the public anger raging here in egypt. there were a lot of calls for the egyptian government to retaliate, to react swiftly and strongly spop perhaps the army here is trying to comfort the public and say that we are going to take revenge for these people killed by isis. actually, let me also get to you the latest there has been a statement issued by the cabinet just minutes ago, saying that it is going to pay nearly $15,000 to the families to each family
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of those killed by the hands of isis. and if we try to go through the social media, we'll find a lot of users saying that if these people had that much money, they wouldn't have sent them into libya in the first place. >> sally nabil in cairo, thank you very much, indeed. let's speak now to dr. omar shore, the director of universityoverseas studies at the university of exiter. what are the longer term implications of this? >> well it's very complex. i think we will see probably an escalation of the egyptian military involvement, which has been already there around november 20135, it started to become more and more apparent. possibly supporting the site of the general and government on one hand but also directly involved in the air strikes that happened earlier in tripoli and elsewhere. but now with a focus on i.s. and
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for a reason which is the events that happened yesterday. the other indication is an escalation of the conflict because the tripoli parliament are basically saying that the regime in egypt did not communicate with them did not try to resolve this crisis did not support them in attempting to resolve this crisis in a less tragic manner in a way that the 21 hostages get released peacefully, and so on. you can see the escalation is already there and the tripoli government already condemned the air strikes. the it's ans escalatory part of the conflict. >> the rest of the country is
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practically in a state of anarchy. but will it be sections of egyptian society which will be supporting islamic state, and this will cause further problems within egyptian society? >> yes, you're absolutely right, first of all. the government really it's two governments, two parliaments, two decentralized armies that are really controlled the rest of libya. and both sides are supported by regional patrons. obviously, the regional patron that supports the side has involved military fighting significantly. but on the egyptian side it is also people, basically, the july 2015 coup have made an extreme polarization in egypt and especially the bloodshed that happened afterwards in august 2013. but also you had a similar version of it happening in libya, the attempt by the general to declare the television coup in february 2014 and in may 2014 which also
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caused an arms race in libya, who has more bullets, not who has more betters. because the bullets are proven to be more and more effective. in this kind of environment, in both egypt and libya, of course i.s. would benefit. it sends a message, if you have enough arms you will survive and possibly dominate. this is a message, the narrative in this kind of environment, the i.s. narrative, is an environment that it can have more recruits more resources, and therefore, more power. >> okay. dr. omar in exeter thank you very much, indeed. the political instability in libya means thousands of migrants are trying to escape the country, often making a dangerous journey across the mediterranean sea. later on "gmt," we'll be looking at how europe's authorities are trying to keep them safe while discouraging them from setting out on the trip at all. two men have been charged in
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denmark with helping gunman who murdered two people in separate attacks in copenhagen. the men are accused of helping him hide and get rid of a weapon. on sunday police shot dead the attacker, omar abdel el hussein. police say the 22 year old had a history of violence and may have been inspired by the paris shootings. speaking to the bbc, denmark's foreign governor described what they were doing to strengthen security. >> we are basically doing two things. we are planning what we call a terror package where we take missions we already have and strengthen them and take new to monitor these islamist groups in denmark and get better tools for our intelligence and police. but on the other hand the second things we are doing, we need to also signal that the best weapon we have against terror is to let ourselves
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affect as little as possible. we need to stay together not split our societies. we need to live our lives without fear. we need to remember they are a very very little minority, which should not be allowed to define how we should live our lives. this is a balance we should strike. of course, we feed to ensure that we do whatever we can to prevent accidents like this and we will certainly do so. on the other hand we shouldn't let the terrorists determine our lives and decide how we should live it. >> the danish foreign minister. ukraine says it is not ready to withdraw its heavy weapons from the conflict zone in the east of the country, as agreed in the minsk talks, because the cease-fire is being violated by russian-backed separatists. the security group, the osce says it's trying again to send monitors to debaltseve. the cease-fire they say, is
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largely holding. well speaking in the last hour the ukrainian military spokesman had this to say. >> their obligatory conditions with the drama for heavy artillery is compliance with the item first on minsk agreement. this is complete cease-fire. and unfortunately, we haven't reached complete cease-fire. and that is why we cannot withdraw heavy artillery. >> well, let's go by web cam to kiev and speak to the chief monitor of special monitoring mission to ukraine and the turkish ambassador to the united nations. is it just debaltseve where the cease-fire isn't holding, or is there more fighting elsewhere? >> well throughout the eastern ukraine and on the cease-fire
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line, i should say that cease-fire is holding, except the region. the fighting is going on and we are speaking to both sides. in the meantime our deputy chief of mission with the team is just moving to soledad, the joint coordination control center between russian and ukrainian officers in order to speak to them and also if possible, to monitor the region and to be present and try to find out some way for stop ingping the firing. >> okay in other words, are we looking at a repeat of the cease-fire last september, which was not a cease-fire? >> well politically, i think
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september was a document posting cease-fire. it was also largely, but on five or six points mainly donetsk airport, debaltseve north of luhansk south of luhansk, as well as mariupol cease-fire was not upheld. that was our problem. it's a method of fact since christmastime, the fighting has been intensified and those local places, some are extended to the whole front line. >> i'm sorry, ambassador. we don't have a huge amount of time. are both sides culpable here or is one side the aggressor? >> well you know, there is -- there has been an offense, in the field of -- in donetsk
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airport, by and the ukrainian side, some are reciprocated. and in the case of debaltseve the offense has been launched by one side because of expanding their military activities and military. the ukrainian side tried to reciprocate it but once this exchange of fire starts it's difficult to predict or to stop the actions from both sides. because the military dynamics combat dynamics are operating. >> okay. ambassador, thank you very much, indeed for joining us there from kiev. now, up to 100 banks and financial institutions worldwide have been attacked. an unprecedented cyberrobbery. that's according to claims by
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the computer security firm cassperky lab. it estimates that $1 billion u.s. has been stolen in the attacks, which it says started in 2013 and is still ongoing. cybercriminal gang with members from russia ukraine, and china, they say is responsible. the report also claims the attacks have taken place in 30 countries, including financial firms in russia u.s. germany, china, ukraine, and canada. well let's speak to richard tenner, vice president of fireeye, a company that specializes in cybersecurity and protecting applications from advanced malware. is this right, do you think? is a group like this capable of stealing $1 billion u.s. in that period of time? >> well i believe so, yes. fire fire fireeye now follows hundreds of groups, threat actors, cybercriminal groups who perpetrate this kind of crime on a global base. the timing of the information is also consistent with our own experience with research that says that these attacks typically exist in an undetected, in an organization's
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network for over 228 days. >> how is this done though? is it targeting customers or is it targeting people who work for these banks and then mimicking their actions to withdraw funds and siphon them off? >> in this particular case they're targeting employees of the organizations. they do so through what's called a sphere phishing attack which is a precise approach to an individual, made easier by the fact that we're moving our lives online through social media. whether it be business social media tours or private. so these individuals are able to target, or the active groups are able to target the individuals with very relevant very well socially engineered communications. >> so this is malware, but why are employees of these institutions actually opening up e-mails, which perhaps look a little bit suspicious? >> well, in many cases, they don't look very suspicious. and one of the key things here is that we've seen a massive growth in the amount of cyberattacks despite the ongoing growth in spending against the problem.
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part of the issue is that the attacks are becoming more targeted. traditional security systems don't identify them. and, you know, users then go on and conduct what looks like normal behavior. you know, online allowing the fraud to take place. >> reports also that they've even managed to actually secure some of the atms for people to withdraw and be able to withdraw huge amounts of cash. is that a precedent? >> sure. we've seen atm fraud, otherwise known as skimming, exist for some time. what's interesting about this attack is that instead of targeting a large number of users for a small amount of money, which is typically what's happened in this space, this is actually one very large attack on the commercial organizations, that fireye estimate are the most targeted commercial operations and the most targeted after-government period. >> we hear a lot about inter-governmental cybercrime,
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what is the feeling here. are these gangs with link to nation states? >> there's no nation state indication here but the reality is that thesis organizations focus on these groups and the question is why is it happening? the first one is that legacy security technology focusing on detection and prevention doesn't work welcome so organizations that need to look at prevention detection, they need to understand who the attackers are and put systems in place to remediate once they found them. but these crimes are happening because the chances of being caught are very low. as we said we've seen a significant increase in the number of attacks. the chances of getting shot or injured are relatively small. the chances of making a significant game are very high. >> all right. richard tanner thank you very much. stay with us here on bbc worlt news still to come getting in a spin. the latest on the case in south korea that has electronics executives in the wringer.
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now, we talked earlier about the so-called islamic state making inroads into libya. here are the consequences of that. more than 2,000 migrants rescued in 24 hours from boats in the mediterranean. it's the italian coast guard's biggest simultaneous operation so far. well italian officials say during the rescue, search teams were threatened by kalashnikov-wielding men who were approached in a speedboat from libya. last week at least 300 migrants died in the mediterranean. on friday more migrants were rescued off the coast of the country. is this the first time that they're being threatened by gunman? and this is presumably quite an alarming escalation now. >> yeah, yeah. this is the first time that we
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have something like that. it is a very worrying escalation. the situation in libya is that they're raising libya's collapse. we must be ready to support thousands of mightrantmigrants probably that will flee the country the next few days or weeks. >> more than 2,000, though picked up in 24 hours, i understand. would this have been greater had italy continued with its policy and heavier presence in the region? >> well mara nostrom terminated in april. since then arrivals have increased. we have more arrivals by sea compared to the same period of 2014. for example, in january this year, we have the arrival of 3,500 migrants. but during january, there were
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2,000. so mara nostrom was not a factor. it's in evidence now. but 330 migrants last year died -- this january died i'm sorry. while with mara nostrom, probably wouldn't have happened. so we think that the system now in place, the mechanism of rescue at high sea is insufficient, it's not adequate. we must be ready to come back to a system in the mediterranean, even in international waters. and very close to the coast, because we are expecting more migrants to come. >> thank you very much indeed for joining us here on "gmt." now, three executives from lg electronics are due to stand trial in south korea after being accused of vandalizing washing machines made by the rival firm samsung. let's get more on this story from bbc stephen evans who
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joins us now from seoul. this has been something of a tumble drier of a ride hasn't it, for the last five months. now in court, what on earth is going on? >> what's going on at a trade show last year in germany, samsung accused lg of leaning on the door of a front loader washing machine. lg is enraged by this accusation and they've put out cctv pictures of the incident showing the president of their home appliances division inspecting a door of a samsung machine and according to the cctv, not damaging it. samsung thinks vandalism occurred at the hands of its deadly rival. lg is adamant that it didn't. rather than agree to differ they've agreed to disagree in court. so off to court they're headed. eyeballs -- to have the dispute
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out with the full legal panoply. >> so presumably it's going to hinge on hinges isn't it? steve, we'll have to leave it there. nauch thank you very much, indeed. you're watching "gmt" with me tim willcox. more in a couple minutes' time. you know, if you play football for a long time like i did you're gonna learn to deal with alot of pain. but it is nothing like the pain that shingles causes. man when i got shingles it was something awful.
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welcome to "gmt." i'm bbc world news. i'm tim willcox. in this half hour islamic state fighters have controlled the iraqi city of mosul since june. now iraq's prime minister tells the bbc its army is ready to take it back. really? >> i'm pretty sure we can liberate mosul with a minimum of casualties and costs and we can cause a lot of damage to their dash. and as these pictures suggest, boston in the united states is seeing its snowiest month in its history. we'll be sending out what sent those temperatures plummeting and whether there will be any relief soon.
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also in the program, aaron is back covering the business space in 3-d. >> absolutely. go where no manufacturer has gone before. we're looking at the british company that is taking a giant leap forward for 3-d printing in orbit. so stay tuned. we've got the cofounder joining us live to take us out of this world. hello and welcome to the program. the iraqi prime minister says his country's armed forces are planning an offensive to retake the northern city of mosul from islamic state militants. mosul was home to more than 1 million people when it was captured by i.s. also known locally as daesh last june. they've launched more than a thousand air strikes since i.s. in iraq to stop their advance, but the group's power and influence has steadily gained
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ground. speaking to the bbc, the prime minister says he hopes mosul will be liberated in a few months' time. >> we are hoping we have a plan. that plan can be within a few months. >> five months? three months? >> it can be that or can be longer. it depends on the situation on the ground, it can depends on our own preparation. and that is of the international coalition who are helping iraq. we have our security forces must be ready to do this. and we're working very hard to make that possible. i can announce this. we have already started the preparation for the preparation of mosul. we've already started this. so we are assigning certain of our army divisions to that task and our security forces there must be huge and very powerful liaison between iraq and
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peshmerga. i think the alliance between the two forces must be powerful must be watertight. we don't want problems in terms of liberating mosul or anything in that sense. i think that the air campaign must be very well organized within our own troops on the ground. i'm pretty sure we can liberate mosul with a minimum of casualties and costs and we can cause a lot of damage to their daesh, because their certain of -- their ideological center. if we damage a weapon in the process. i'm not sure what to do it. >> mosul will be back in your hands by the end of the year? >> i hope before that. >> that was our john simpson. yet another snowstorm expected to develop across the united states, this could mean some areas could see their snowiest winter on record. for states on the eastern coast,
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this is the fourth winter in less than a month. blizzards with near whiteout conditions and there have even been lightning strikes in coastal areas. let's get more on this from our chris forks from bbc weather department. horrendous weather conditions. pretty bad, huh? >> an astonishing year with snowfall totals. if we look at places in massachusetts, boston the snowiest month on record, with 115 centimeters already built up with more to come as we head into the rest of february. so we're not done just yet. if we look at the annual amount of snowfall in boston it's already boston's third snowiest winter on record with 227 centimeters having already fallen, which is a staggering amount of snow. >> and really no chance to clear it up. what has caused these plunge in temperatures? >> over last few weeks, we've had the jet stream stuck in the same kind of pattern, bringing really bitterly cold air out of the canadian arctic and had these nor'easters spinning up.
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this one we can see on the graphics this was the latest system, the fourth to hit the new england area in february. and we can see the really heavy snow going down across parts of massachusetts, new hampshire maine, along towards eastern canada, with the winds really whipping up widespread blizzard conditions. how much snow fell? from this one storm alone, we had 70 centimeter of snow reported across some eastern areas of maine. but, yeah, in boston, 33 centimeter centimeters. that was enough to tip them over into the snowiest month on record in the city and there's a little bit more -- >> for how much longer though? >> probably a couple more systems before the end of february. but it's not just the snow that's causing problems because we have bitterly cold air coming out of the canadian arctic. and look at the this afternoon in boston at minus 10. factor in really strong winds and it will feel more like minus 20. anyone outside for any length of time is at risk of getting frostbite. and further south, actually the weather is looking pretty savage
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as well with the next snow system coming in. this will bring snowy weather for states like missouri across parts of kentucky and tennessee. 10 to 30 centimeters of snow there. but just to the south of that, through parts of arkansas northern parts of alabama and northern mississippi, we have something called freezing rain. this is liquid rain that has a temperature below freezing freezes on impact it can bring down power lines and turn roads into ice rinks. it looks horrible. >> and how much further south could it go? you mentioned some of those states, but could it get down towards the florida area or not? >> it's going to swing eastward. we'll see the snow actually overnight monday night and into tuesday morning affecting washington, d.c. and new york. of course washington's an area that's got away relatively scot-free so far, because the heavier amounts of snow have been further northeast in new england and areas of canada. >> those roads look impassable, chris. thank you very much, indeed. right, from snow to the
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red-hot business correspondent presenter, aaron, what have you got? >> >> are we going to see snow over here? just a little bit? >> i wish. >> got to go. i'm getting in trouble. archimedes once apparently said give me a lever and a place to stand, and i can move the whole world. it does seem like the greek math mathematician never came across the current greek government. within the next couple of hours, it's happening again. euro zone finance ministers will gather in brussels to see if they can hammer out a deal with greece to stave off that nightmare scenario of a greece exit. so let's just try to explain what's going on in these three screens. stick with me. it's more interesting than it sounds. let's start with this this is cause of all the problems. greece has huge debt unbelievable. it's been growing for some time. it now stands total, almost 175% of gdp.
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what's that i hear you say? basically, behave got debt that's nearly doubled, double everything greece produces and earns every single year. the greek owes all the greeks hundreds of billions of euros to their lenders. now, you can see from this one, all that debt and the uncertainty over the country have pushed up the cost of borrowing for their greek government. the bond yields, the bond is the greet debt. now, without those -- it's already high as you can see, right here but without those big loans from the international lenders, which is the eu the imf, the international monetary found, and the european central bank, the country would be paying a lot more in this in terms of interest payments. right here this is what the euro is doing against the dollar in terms of its value. and no doubt, this crisis is starting to cause tremors across global markets with normal people moving their money out of the euro. they do that the value of the euro drops. daniel groth is the director of the center of european policy studies and joins us. daniel, great to have you with us, as always.
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daniel, i'm not too sure. here we are again, how much if one should hold their breath. just recently germany's finance minister said greece is acting irresponsible and he is skeptical a deal will be reached today. do you think he's speaking for the majority of european finance ministers? >> in a certain sense, yes. it's very unlikely they'll get a deal today, but actually almost all european finance ministers are united in one thing. they all want to see their money back. and that's why the greeks will have a very tough time on the issue of debt for business. i don't think that's going to be in the cards. >> yeah this has been going on for some time and it's going to continue, this is a case of who blings first? because i'm wondering, what sort of deals, if any, are on the table? does greece still want to do that deal where they leak their debt to growth so they're saying, we're only going to start paying that debt off once our economy starts growing? >> yeah that's likely. but actually all that debt is
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really just on paper. because none of that debt or the official debt has to be repaid before 20 or 30 years. so what really we need in greece right now is cash cash to get them through the next month. so they'll say, okay let's forget about long-term debt. let's see how you get through the next month, how you can pay your bills, how you can repay the imf and the european central bank, and then they will have to get very technical, but first, you have to have these theatrics, which you're seeing right now. >> but you think some type of i guess you would call it a bridging loan. are you optimistic that some type of short-term funding will be there or last week we had a survey that shows one in a quarter, 25% of economists polled said you know, it's likely greece will leave the euro. >> no, i think it's unlikely. because in greece most people actually want to have compromise. the overwhelming majority wants to stay in the euro.
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and in germany and everybody wants to stay out of the greeks inside the euro if they make some sense of a compromise. so both sides can say they're safe. i think a compromise is in the cards. not today, but over the next few years, next few months sorry. >> oh, you know this story, it could be the next few years. who knows, daniel? we'll talk to you and thank you very much for that. appreciate it. to boldly go where manufacturing has never gone before. i'm talking about 3-d printing in space! up until now, at least for a the past few months they've been able to print small things in space. i believe things like a spanner. but the technology has just taken a huge leap forward because an engineering firm based right here in the uk now has the technology to make larger part for the international space station,
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using an on board 3-d printer. andy, great to have you on the program. before we can talk about how you can do this can you just to us layman, am i right saying you could print small stuff up until now, but what kind of things are you able to print nowadays? >> well we're taking a slightly different approach than the traditional 3-d presenters. and really what we're focusing on is rather than making things in space that are small, that you could probably fly there anyway economically, we're looking at how you can manufacture things in space that aren't affordable or completely impossible from an engineering perspective to even get that. so that's why we're looking at very large structures and we've taken a slightly different approach in terms of the manufacturing approach. one of the guys in the company, andrew dixon, invented a technique for manufacturing these very very large
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structures. so we're talking at the moment structures in space are limited to about 10 to 20 meters in size. these are structures commonly used in spacecraft or satellites for transmitting tv broadband, or phone. things like that. they're limited to about 10 to 20 meters. and what we're doing is looking at, well that's limited because of the size of the launch area and how heavy they are and how much it costs to launch them. so we're developing this technique for manufacturing structures which are hundreds of meters in size. so many lengths of a football pitch, for instance. >> that is phenomenal. again, to us laymen and you just kind of touched on it up until now, to get past up into space, obviously, it takes millions and millions of dollars to fire a rocket to get thereupon and deliver. surely, this has got to be a major breakthrough. you must have investments flying at you, don't you? >> well we're very -- not really! >> you wish!
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>> we are in the very early stage. we're very well supported by uk government in terms of uk space agency and also european space agency. we've also had to put some of our own money to develop it to where we've got to in terms of proof of concept and early prototypes, if you like. what we're looking at the moment is potential export into areas where there's a bit more commercial money around like in the u.s. they take a slightly different economic view to space in the u.s. when you compare it to europe. so there's a bit more private money goes in when i say, a bit more, a lot more from people like google who are putting a lot of money into some very large space companies over there. and so they've taken a slightly different approach. so we're looking at how we can export it, how we can make use of the investment that the uk government has put in so far to really grow the company and grow the technology. >> it may not surprise us that google will be knocking on your door one day. but very briefly, the potential
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of this going further, you could end up having with this technology in place, end up having space stations in outer space, not tethered to earth's orbit. you know does -- the opportunity -- >> yes. yeah, we're an enabling technology. and really, in terms of where it can go it's only limited by imagination. so we're just we're enabling the concept of growing and manufacturing things in space at a much larger size than currently thought of. so using that enabling technology, it's up to the scientists and the engineers developing the applications for either communications or observation, or even further out things, as you say. you start to get into the world of "star trek," a little bit, but why not? >> yeah why not, indeed. all i can say is best of luck. we'll keep an eye on the whole story as it progresses. and i'll take a commission when google comes knocking.
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i don't take a 10%, 5%. you can tweet me @bbcaaron. and i'll share that with you as well. >> well, i want 5%. >> greedy! >> what an exciting story! >> very exciting. >> aaron thank you very much indeed. stay with us here on "bbc world news," because still to come we stay in the space zone because would you like to be the first human on mars? you can join aaron if you want to talking also to the coo of mars 1 mission along with two hopefuls who would love to live on mars.
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egypt has bombed islamic state militants in libya, in retaliation for the murder of egyptian christians. the air strikes were coordinated with libya. and danish police have charged two men with helping the gunman who attacked a synagogue and a cafe if copenhagen this weekend. the danish prime minister is shortly to give a press conference in the next few minutes. now, what would you say to being on a man's mission to colonize mars in 2024? would it bother you if you were told that it was a one-way ticket. didn't seem to be an issue for the tens of thousands of people who applied to be part of the mars one project. 200,000 people in total. and now that list has been whittled down to 100 candidates selected to potentially become part of a four-man crew. but with much of the $6 billion funding still needing to be found, will the mission ever go ahead? let's talk to the founder of mars one project. and also maggie and ryan, who
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both hope to be on board that first flight to mars. maggie, if i can just start with you, aren't you terrified of this? >> i am really, really excited, especially going down to the 100 now, and i've really happy since i found out. >> what have you got to offer the mission? what is your ust? >> so my background is in astrophysics. >> oh, that makes total sense. >> and did you think about becoming an astronaut before actually trying to get on this mars mission? >> when i was little i always wanted to be an astronaut, and that's what all kids wanted. so as i grew a bit older, i really wanted to be a rocket scientist, because that job title would just be awesome and just to advance science that way would be amazing. >> brian, what about you? what's your background and what do your family and friends think about it potentially being a one-way trip. >> i'm also a physicist. i'm just finishing up my final
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year of physics degree in my final year in oxford. i've never made it a secret that i've ever wanted to go into space -- >> but not forever? >> well i didn't have the opportunity to go forever. absolutely, that's even better. maximize your time and all that. but that being said my little sister, i'm very close with her and have been ever since i was really young, so manes, of course i'll have to be communicating with her very often, we can't have live conversations, but i'll certainly be sending messages back home as soon as possible. >> now you've got these people's hopes, but let's be frank about this. $6 billion funding you need. how much have you raised so far? >> we don't disclose how much we've raised but we've done an investment draft in 2013. and that has been able to help us do everything that we've done so far. >> there's a report out, wasn't it saying that so far, you have raised 633,000, which is .001% of your target amount.
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>> that's what we've received as donations from all over the world. we get donations from more than 100 different countries. but at this moment investments is by far our most important source of revenue. and that's what has been -- has allowed us to do what we've done so far. >> one other thing. obviously, just looking into the background of this spacex i think you say, is one of your suppliers. they say they've broken off all contact with you. have they? >> we've never had an official contract with space-x, but we are in good negotiation with them. we've been to their office a couple of times. people from space actually visit our office. but at this moment it's just too early to buy our rockets. we're not sending our first unmanned mission until 2018. so the end of 2016 is a good time to start buying those rockets. >> okay, meg and ryan you're both extremely bright people but the massachusetts institute of technology recently said that any attempt to go to mars the life expectancy would be about 68 days. maggie? >> i think that's a misconception. the article that they published
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was about the ventilation of oxygen, if you produce a lot of oxygen, you'll have a huge risk of fire. and even though the technology may not be there yet, we have ten years to develop it. and ten years ago, you probably didn't use a computer much or rely so much on internet and look where we are now. we're so dependent on this technology and it's advanced so quickly. >> ryan. is this about sort of legacy? obviously, you're a scientist. is this the overriding thing for you? >> yeah absolutely, it's about legacy. it's about knowing that if you go to mars and you're one of the first four people on mars you can achieve that much more than you can as possibly one prnerson out of 7 billion on earth. by going to mars i can basically leave a legacy for everyone. and i want to add something quickly about the m.i.t. study, is what it says is that the first fatality occurs 68 days if you don't use any local resource production and they do a calculation on page 13 and 14 on
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their report that there aren't any instance ifs you do. >> all right, there's a reality tv show as well. is that the right sort of vehicle, do you think, to raise money and get interest? and also doesn't it slightly sort of cheapen and trivialize what is potentially an extremely dangerous mission? >> well the reality tv is not on our website. i think that's what journalists have come up with. >> what is it? >> well it's the most exciting story of all time. humans going to mars settling on another planet. and of course we have to and we want to share that story with the entire world. but i compare it much more to the olympic games, where the best of the best people that we select from all over the world do things that almost nobody else can do. and that story, of course we want to share that with the world. but, no big brother on mars please. >> well not yet. but what happens, though for the people traveling? how are you going to get along, how are you going to survive, how are you going to have any
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sort of relationships together? because there's only four of you there? >> we're going to be training for ten years with that group of people. we're going to develop a relationship with them and they're going to become our new family. so hopefully by the time ten years down the line we'll know each other well enough to survive the rest of our lives together. >> okay. well, i'm afraid we're out of time, but -- actually, we're not out of time. i've been told we've got some material sent to us by space from the satellite. tell us about the conditions on mars. >> mars is a lot colder than the earth. the established temperature is about minus 58 degrees celsius, although on the equator it can go up to around 30 degrees celsius. >> water production how about that? >> right, so there is actually a lot of water on mars enough to coat the entire planet up to about 7 meters depth if you were to melt it off. we land at a latitude close enough to the poll between 40 and 45 degrees north that there is water ice just a couple centimeters beneath the surface.
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