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that this was going to happen? this was not predictable. ido was not predictable. i do think a presence there, and actually if there were police there, how on earth would they have stopped something like that? it wouldn't have been feasible. i don't think any blame can be placed on emergency services and on people here. there are suggestions that there are barriers around the christmas markets in belgium and even birmingham. well, i haven't been to the birmingham christmas market in many yea rs. birmingham christmas market in many years. i'm not sure that that is necessarily a security measure, barriers tend to go up around any major event. it is very difficult to predict this, and i don't think that you can prepare for something like this. that's the way it works, it's unpredictable. people that do things like this deliberately aimed for it. it seems like the driver of this
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vehicle has been arrested. another person was found in the cab as well. where are you now in relation to the market? we are probably, we are on the same road, and we are probably miles away. it is like regent street with designer shops and eateries. we are staying on a hotel on that street, straight down from it. we came back to the hotel as soon as is, and are safe. that, for us, is the most important thing. of course. finally, your thoughts now that the dust has settled a bit on your experience, you have managed to get away, you are now safe, what are your thoughts now? at the moment, personally, i am running on adrenaline, and my friends and family want to check that i am 0k and i am safe. thoughts now are that we need to make sure
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thoughts are with those who are injured, those families who have lost people. actually, this was deliberate, it was a terrorist attack, we can't change the way we behave, we can't change the way we talk to people and deal with people, because that is what they want, they wa nt to because that is what they want, they want to frighten us. we are intending to stay in berlin, stick with our plans, because if we don't, people that do this deliberate leak, terrorists, they win. and we don't wa nt terrorists, they win. and we don't want them to win. an eyewitness to those scenes in berlin, emma rushton, good regards to you and yourfamily. i rushton, good regards to you and your family. i know rushton, good regards to you and yourfamily. i know it rushton, good regards to you and your family. i know it is a difficult time, thanks joining your family. i know it is a difficult time, thanksjoining us tonight. thank you, emma. we are going to go now to a reporter. bring us up to date. what are you seeing? all the christmas stuff around is
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destroyed, police are keeping the place say. many reporters are here, and many firefighters are still trying to clean up the place. so still a huge emergency services in attendance. although the driver of this vehicle has been arrested, still a large area is cordoned off? could you repeat. the driver of the vehicle has been arrested, but a large area has been cordoned off. it is not easy to get here, because everything is closed. but that is what we heard, also, that is arrested. i think he was arrested at
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arrested. i think he was arrested at a place nearby, the police said. yes, it's still busy here. the suggestion is that this vehicle, the laurie, was actually potentially hijacked, and that the person who was found dead in the cab was the lawful driver of the vehicle. do you have information about? i don't know anything about this cause i have just i don't know anything about this cause i havejust arrived i don't know anything about this cause i have just arrived at the scene after everything happened. it was so scene after everything happened. it was so crowded. all cheques should be done by the police. police are treating it as a terror incident. it is still not clear. when i spoke to the guy an hour ago, it was still unclear if it was an accident or if
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it was a terror attack. but of course, images of nice are in your head. these markets are obviously very popular, notjust these markets are obviously very popular, not just with these markets are obviously very popular, notjust with locals, but with tourists as well. tell us a bit about the market and this part of berlin. this is in the old western part of berlin. there is a famous church that was destroyed in the second world war. the name of the church stands for peace. it is really upsetting, because yeah, this place was about peace. it might be a symbol. and given the fact that germany has been the victim of a number of terror incidents in the last 12
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months, some are expressing a little bit of surprise that there weren't barriers, for instance, which may have been able to prevent or at least mitigate something like this. i can't speculate about that, because you have so many christmas markets around berlin, so many small places where they sell some drinks, sausages and some things, you can't protect all of them, with the streets around, the traffic, yeah. it is still not easy to protect everything. yeah, there are no bigger barriers, something like that, because there is traffic. 0k, that, because there is traffic. ok, the police are now calling it a terror attack in berlin. thank you for joining terror attack in berlin. thank you forjoining us. let's look at some of the front pages. many of them lead on the
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events over the last 2—3 hours from berlin. natalie haynes and rob merrickjoin me. we will start with the guardian, which has on the front page nine dead in berlin, truck horror, dozens hurt at christmas market. natalie, you were telling me earlier that yourfamily market. natalie, you were telling me earlier that your family from belgium. that's true. the whole christmas market thing is something that you know a lot about, like a lot of people do, i suppose, in this country. they go over to europe and go to the markets, but you were telling me earlier that they do have barriers around some of the markets. they did last year, i haven't been over this year yet and i am running out of time, but at the start of this year, when the christmas markets run into the earlier part of january, that is when i was last over. they have big concrete blocks in the centre of brugge. it is a
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very beautiful town centre, and you are not allowed to drive through anyway, but they have put up big concrete blocks. is that a safety measure? i've to say my cousins, who are young and fearless, were scoffing at the idea that anybody would be fearful of such things in bruges. i thought, would be fearful of such things in bruges. ithought, 0k, would be fearful of such things in bruges. ithought, ok, you are would be fearful of such things in bruges. i thought, ok, you are young and brave, but it seemed a measure. perhaps serving a dual function. you can't get a softer target than a christmas market, can you? clearly, the eyewitness emma felt that it was unpredictable, how can you protect against it but perhaps the only we can is with barriers that natalie was talking about. but your gut feeling is that if they did attack, they would attack somewhere else. it is almost impossible to
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prevent some sort of attack somewhere. the guardian reporting that one man is arrested and another man is dead in the laurie. this was not an accident. —— lorry. emma saying that there was no way that it could have been accidental, it was travelling ina straight line, been accidental, it was travelling in a straight line, it was not veering off in any way, suggesting that the driver had suffered a heart attack or something like that. it was clear to them what was going on. it is hard not tojoin was clear to them what was going on. it is hard not to join the dots, because it feels so much like the story of nice injuly, when similarly, for bastille day, a truck ploughed into a huge crowd of families. exactly the same, a soft target. chris is market attract people with children, so it is difficult not to fill in the gaps and say that it is clearly what it is -- and say that it is clearly what it is —— christmas markets attract. we
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will have to see what develops and what information the police release over the next few hours, or days and weeks. at the moment, you think back to whenever the glasgow bin lorry case was and we did the same thing, and of course it was a different story, equally tragic, but differently so. a quote on the front of the guardian, there seems to be no doubt about what has happened, he says," if you days before christmas, the message is clear, no matter how, we can pounce at any time". that seems to be the thing. the front page of the i, islamic state on the back foot in syria, and in iraq. many analysts point out
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that this is how they are now getting their message out, i suppose, their message of terror. they have been appealing to their followers abroad to do what they can to further their twisted cars. natalie, islamic state also saying that trucks are a good thing to use to attack people. while the authorities in germany are keeping a bit ofan authorities in germany are keeping a bit of an open mind on this, clearly with that calling from islamic state with that calling from islamic state with this happening, with the nice attack as well, many point their fingers towards some kind of islamist link. i suppose it is one of those things where we have watched the encroachment of more and more things. once you could say about unattended baggage, that is something to be afraid of. now you can see someone with a bag, it does
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not have to be unattended. there are bag searches to make people feel safer. and it isn't particularly difficult to get hold of a lorry. it isn't difficult to have a license to drive a heavy goods vehicle, it isn't particularly difficult to force somebody else with a licence to let you have the lorry. the question arises, we can't keep fighting the weapon because the weapons ciggy changes. the question is then the target. in that case, what do we do? do we never go to places? do we carry on doing what we wa nted places? do we carry on doing what we wanted to do for the rest of the weekend, it is super brave. on the front of the ft, echoes of nice ata on the front of the ft, echoes of nice at a seasonal market. i covered
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the nice attack, and there were brits flying in the day afterwards in solidarity. they specifically said, we're not going to be deterred by this, as emma was saying earlier, we will not let them win, people flying in specifically the day after to show solidarity. when this happened, everyone's minds, my mind certainly, went that it is nice again. in the 2005 suicide attacks, you carry on, i certainly did. the conclusion of the french authorities was that the man that carried out the massacre in nice had been inspired by islamist propaganda, but they couldn't find any suggestion
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that isis had orchestrated the attack. what can be said is that at some point isis will claim asbos ability for berlin, but they did not necessarily orchestrated, merely that they inspired. in the wake of nice, the authorities we re in the wake of nice, the authorities were trying to establish how easy it would be for someone to be able to get their hands on a vehicle large enough to cause maximum damage. interestingly, the suggestion is that there are some reports say that it was a vehicle that was hijacked. the guardian is running a live update, a live feed, and kate connelly, one of their reporters, had quoted, i think, the owner of the company who owns the truck which is polish, i think. the quote she had was from the company owner
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saying that it was his cousin who was in the laurie and he was certain that he would put his hand in the fire —— in the lorry. it may be incorrect, but it is something that makes perfect sense in this narrative, do we rushed to believe it or ask the right questions? wouldn't suggest it was true, i would merely say that question has been raised. an attack on a mosque in zero today, also the assassination of the rossen ambassador to turkey. —— in zero. conspiracy theorists might suggest they are linked —— in zurich. what a dreadful day in terms of terror and europe this day has been.
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the suspicion must be that if you are going to carry out an attack like this, there was one in is a wreck as well, the run—up christmas isa time wreck as well, the run—up christmas is a time when people are expecting to be out and about, enjoying themselves, at a christmas market or another event. that is the time when your motivation is to create terror to the maximum, maybe there is a link with zurich. there have been previous terror attacks in germany in recent weeks and months, but not since the summer, but it is now three and six months. rob and natalie will be back in 15 minutes time. this is pretty much the only story that most of the papers are running on. thank you for that. stay with us much more coming up. now it is time for the weather. for many of us, another 2a hours of
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relatively calm weather with mist and drizzle, the kind of thing we have had for a while. then it will turn very unsettled, and the reason for it is a powerfuljet stream that will roar out of north america, across the atlantic, and it is making its way to the uk. the jet strea m making its way to the uk. the jet stream will spin up nasty areas of low pressure, potentially storms, one around christmas eve, and another one heading for around christmas time. some nasty weather, strong winds, heavy rainfall, something to bear in mind if you are travelling during christmas, and that can be anywhere across the country. for the moment, that can be anywhere across the country. forthe moment, it that can be anywhere across the country. for the moment, it is mainly northern and western areas getting the most of it. tonight, drizzle and low cloud across an good and wales. a fine end to the day across scotland and northern
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ireland, with frost and fog around, too. a look at the morning on tuesday. waking up to a nippy start across many parts of scotland and northern ireland, belfast barely above freezing. some areas will be freezing or below. england and wales, fairly overcast spots of rain here and there, across western areas. but in one or two areas, you can make out the cloud starting to break up. that is a suggestion that dues they will not be as dull as monday was. some sunshine on the way for many of us. it could end up being not so bad. but later in the day, rain and wind affecting northern ireland and scotland. this is basically the leading edge of the u nsettled is basically the leading edge of the unsettled weather. these isobars, strong wind, the unsettled weather heading our way for the rest of the week. from tuesday night into
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wednesday onwards, the weather fronts pushed through. strong winds, gales around the coast. sunshine and showers, some will be wintry across hills. for a short while in the south, mild and not too windy. beyond that, a roller—coaster ride through christmas. remember, there could be strong winds, so stay in touch with the latest weather updates here with us. goodbye. this is bbc news. i'm clive myrie. you are watching a special. the headlines at 11.00: a lorry attack on a busy christmas market in berlin — at least nine are dead and dozens injured. members of the public tended to the injured as police urged berliners to stay indoors until the all—clear could be given. it went just passed it wentjust passed me, past my girlfriend. i think it was made by three metres and mist to buy five metres. it came into the entrance
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and hit the sides of the barriers, and hit the sides of the barriers, and then carried on past us. —— missed her. an off—duty turkish policeman moments after he shot and killed the russian ambassador, urging the world to remember syria. he'd been seen in the background as ambassador karlov addressed a meeting. moscow said the murder was an act of terrorism.

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