hello. it's wednesday. it's 9am. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. this morning, in an exclusive interview a mum who was at high risk of being murdered by her abusive ex—husband tells this programme a social worker disclosed the location of her secret safe house twice. the woman was subjected to violent revenge attacks as a result. he said it was impossible to safeguard us and keep our address safeguard us and keep our address safe and he said losing your life is not worth seeking justice and he said ultimately that's going to happen. we'll bring you that full interview at 9.15am. also on the programme, "i swear to tell the post truth, the alternative truth and nothing like the truth" — that's how satirical magazine private eye mocks donald trump's inauguration as president. overnight there have been more clashes between trump's spokesman and the press over facts. lookjeff, i've asked and answered this question twice. he believes what he believes based on the

information he has provided. reporter: what does that mean for democracy. if he does believe that, what does it mean for democracy? i've answered your question. so how will the media and democrats carry on trying to challenge the new president? and a north korean diplomat who defected last year from its london embassy claims its leader kimjong—un would be prepared to attack los angeles with nuclear weapons if his survival in power depended on it. kimjong—un, i kim jong—un, i think, kimjong—un, i think, will press the button of this dangerous, you know, the weapons when he thinks that his rule and his time is threatened. that full interview before 11am. hello and welcome to the programme.

we're live until 11am. as always we'll bring you the latest breaking news and developing stories throughout the programme. later we'll be covering a story which the govt has been accused ifa if a woman has a third do get in touch. use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today, president trump says he has a "big day" planned on national security today which will include an announcement on building a wall on the us border with mexico. our correspondent in washington, david willis, has more. we're going to have our borders nice and strong. we're going to build the wall... build a wall... going to build a wall... it was the soundtrack to donald trump's unorthodox campaign for president, a call to build a wall along america's southern border with mexico. now he seems set to press ahead

with measures he believes are vital to stemming the illegal flow of immigrants into the united states. the president, on his twitter account, said simply, "big day planned on national security tomorrow. among many other things, we will build the wall." he's about to make mexico pay for it, what's more, although the mexican government has refused to do so. later in the week, to round off a busy start to his presidency, mr trump is expected to sign executive orders closing america's borders to refugees, and limiting access to citizens from seven african and middle eastern countries — countries the administration believes export terrorism. they are mainly muslim countries, but the mantra of the trump administration is "america first." a country that traditionally has opened its doors to immigrants is about to head in the opposite direction. david willis, bbc news, washington. president trump has also re—ignited a major environmental dispute in the united states.

he's used executive orders to sign into action moves to re—launch projects to build controversial oil pipelines in north dakota and nebraska. protests against the plans have already begun with demonstrations in new york and washington. the president has also reportedly banned staff at america's environmental protection agency from posting on social media. while a series of tweets on climate change from the twitter account of the badlands national park in south dakota have been deleted. meanwhile, the new administration's war of words with the us media shows no sign of fading away. keith doyle is here. the relationship is not getting any better? we have seen the spats overnight in the white house briefing room. president trump has been accused of spending a lot of time on issues which are non core

issues. we had the row with the alternative facts about the size of the inauguration. now he's repeating the inauguration. now he's repeating the claims that he would have won the claims that he would have won the popular vote if it wasn't for three to five million illegal votes that he said were placed. the media says there is no basis for this, but he said that this is a, his spokesperson says this is a belief he maintains. now, obviously trump won with the electoral college votes, but hillary clinton got almost three million more votes than he did. now, he is saying the reason she got the extra votes was because three and five million people voted illegally. the new york times is never a friend of donald trump said this is a lie. he's saying this is really bothering the president because he feels there is all the stories that are undermining his presidency. 0k, thank you. we're speaking to a representative of the new york times after 10am. thank you very much, keith. joanna is in the bbc newsroom with a summary

of the rest of the day's news. good morning. mps have increased pressure on theresa may to set out her negotiating position on brexit in a white paper to be presented to the house of commons. it follow yesterday's supreme court judgment which ruled that the prime minister must give parliament a vote before triggering article 50, the formal process for leaving the eu. it's thought a brexit bill could be introduced as early as tomorrow. here's our political correspondent tom bateman. after thejudges ruled only parliament can start brexit, today a warning for mps — don't try to derail the plan. the supreme courtjudgement means a bill on triggering article 50, the start of britain's exit process, must be put before mps and lords. so what lies on the road ahead? the government says legislation paving the way for brexit will be tabled within days. that'll be voted on by both houses of parliament. theresa may wants article 50 triggered by the end of march. then britain has two years to leave the eu. so there can be no going back.

the point of no return was passed on 23rd june last year. labour say they won't block article 50, but want to amend the bill to give mps more control of the process. if necessary, there will be hand—to—hand combat on this. we need to make sure that we get the best deal on behalf of the whole country and she can't say she acts on behalf of the whole country. theresa may also faces opposition from some of her own mps who want a formal exit document to be debated, but for now at least, ministers believe they are on track to get brexit triggered by the spring. a mother of two on the run from her violent ex—husband has told this programme how a social worker disclosed the location of her safe house twice, leading to a vicious revenge attack on both occasions. ivy, which is not her real name, was considered by police to be at high risk of being murdered. she told victoria she was let down by nearly every agency supposed

to be protecting her. in the end police advised her to drop the investigation into her ex as they couldn't guarantee her safety. you can hear victoria's interview at 9.15am. grammar school headteachers in england have warned that they may ask parents for hundreds of pounds a year to cope with funding cuts. the grammar school heads association says proposed changes to school funding will see a majority of them lose money. a number of conservative mps are urging the government to change its plans. but the department for education said it was ending a postcode lottery in school funding. women who have had a third child due to being raped will now have to prove what happened to avoid losing money through new tax credit restrictions. from april, tax credits will be limited to a family's first two children. the government published a new so—called "rape clause" on friday exempting women whose third or subsequent child was born as a result of rape. the move has been described by campaigners as "inhumane" and "degrading".

the government says it was "important to have an exception in place to support claimants". women are experiencing widespread discrimination when it comes to dress codes at work, according to a parliamentary report. mps heard from hundreds of women who reported that the codes they were subject to were sexist. they began an inquiry after a receptionist was sent home for refusing to wear high heels. a delayed upgrade to the radio system, used by the emergency services in england, scotland and wales, may end up costing taxpayers £475 million a year. mps on the public accounts committee say the planned new system isn't used by any other country and needs to be properly tested. the service, which will use 4g and ee, was supposed to be ready last year but won't be available until 2019. at the moment, at the time we had our hearing, there was no deal struck, and there still is not with transport for london about the london underground, and there are still question marks about other underg rounds around the country. if it doesn't work underground, then it's a real risk to both people and our emergency services

who really need to contact each other in real time in case of emergencies such as 7/7. an rnli lifeboat station in yorkshire has found itself with an unexpected new crew member — a fox named basil. basil befriended the rnli team after becoming a regular visitor to the station. they say he's not yet been on any actual rescues but as you can see, he could well be handling the station's media inquiries given his obvious fondness for the tv cameras! that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9.30am. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live, and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport with reshmin at the bbc sport centre. johanna konta is out.

the british number one is out of the australian open. she was the only brit left in the competition, but konta was simply outplayed in her quarter final match. with the six—time champion serena williams. konta had been on a nine—match winning streak but came up short in herfirst meeting with the 22—time grand slam champion. she lost it in straight sets 6—2, 6—3. they were out on court forjust over an hour. so williams is now on the hunt for a 23rd title and what would be an open—era record. tough for konta, of course, but she has plenty to be proud of. she hadn't even dropped a set all tournament. who thinks the future at manchester united looks bright? when sir alex ferguson speaks, the footballing world stands to attention and the former manager and united legend has given jose mourinho the thumbs up. the portuguese has been in charge at united for eight months, but the club currently trail leaders chelsea by 1a points and are sixth in the table. sir alex though, believes his

old club are unlucky not to be higher up. they haven't lost in the league for three months and the key to that, thinks the scotsman, is mourinho keeping control of his emotions. and england's women were in action in spain last night. the lionesses played the second of their two friendlies in spain yesterday. norway ended their ten match unbeaten run on sunday and they were held to a nil—nil draw with sweden last night in murcia. and this is who they have to thank for the scoreline — goalkeeper siobhan chamberlain, who saved a second half penalty. the next step in england's preparation for the european championship this summer is the she believes cup, a four—team tournament in the usa. history has been made in the snow? sweden. yes. history indeed — the first successful double backflip in a snowmobile.

the double backflip has earned a reputation as the holy grail — and sweden's daniel bodin is the one who pulled it off. he's been working on this for two years and all his hard work has clearly paid off! wow, that's impressive. that's it from me. iwill wow, that's impressive. that's it from me. i will have more later on. good morning. welcome to the programme. a mum of two on the run from her violent ex—husband has told this programme how a social worker disclosed the location of her safe house — twice — leading to vicious revenge attacks on both occasions. ivy, which is not her real name, was considered by police to be at high—risk of being murdered. she was placed in secret, emergency accommodation with her children. in our exclusive interview, she tells us she was let down by nearly every agency supposed to be protecting her when she fled her abusive marriage. eventually she and her children were relocated to a different part of the uk, given new identities and forced to cut off all ties

with family and friends. in the end, police advised her to drop the investigation into her ex, because they couldn't guarantee her safety, saying "neither her life, nor her children's lives, were worth losing in the pursuit ofjustice". this interview is the first time ivy has ever talked publicly about what she experienced. her words are spoken for her. just to let you know, some of the details she describes are distressing, so if you have children around, you may not wish them to listen. ivy begins by describing how the physical and sexual abuse perpetrated by her husband, and other men he introduced his wife to, began. it started off with sexual violence, so raping, and then progressed from there to physical violence, which started out as punching and kicking. and then slowly progressed from there. there were weapons involved, in terms of a knife. strangling me until i was unconscious. sticking my head under water

until i was unconscious. so, really extreme violence. and then, later on, he involved other men, which obviously included raping by other men. so he allowed other men to rape you as well? yeah. why? i have no idea. i really don't know. do you have any idea how many times you were raped over those two decades? it's impossible to say. it was on a weekly basis, and sometimes multiple times during the week, so i have really no idea. what threats did he make to you to stop you going to the police? well, once we had children, it was threats against the children, where he said he would harm the children if i wasn't complicit in doing what he wanted me to do. and that was particularly

when he involved the other men. i was afraid to go to the police. he constantly told me that nobody would believe me. and he also threatened that if i did go, that i would be the one to get into trouble. and i believed that. you know, when you've been told that for so many years, you begin to believe it. what impact did all this have on you? i now suffer with complex post—traumatic stress disorder. i've had multiple suicide attempts. i certainly don't trust anybody. i find it very hard to trust anybody. eventually you did go to the police after encouragement from others. you spent an hour or so initially talking to an officer, a police officer, describing what you had endured over many yea rs. what was his response? after i had finished giving him my report, he sat back in his chair and said to me very bluntly that he didn't believe me.

his words were, things like this don't happen in our green, leafy area, and anyway, you've derived sexual gratification from this experience. what on earth led him to say that? i've no idea. what effect did that have on you? i left feeling completely degraded and humiliated, and regretted having followed the advice to go and report the abuse. eventually, the authorities realised you were at risk of very serious harm, and your children, and they moved you to emergency accommodation, so—called safe accommodation. but the social worker involved made a monumental error. what did that social worker do? she disclosed our address to my ex—husband. she claimed it was his parental right to know where his children were living. and what was the result of the social worker disclosing your address? he found us at that address, and i was assaulted again by him.

and, astonishingly, this happened a second time with the same social worker after you'd been moved again to safe accommodation. yeah, yeah, shejust did exactly the same as soon as we'd been moved the second time. she disclosed where we'd been living. by that time, we'd also changed all our mobile numbers. she gave him our new numbers, and for the same reasoning. even though she knew he'd carried out this revenge attack on you? yeah. yeah, she said it was his parental right to know where his children were. do you know if that social worker has been disciplined or even sacked for what she did? i don't know. obviously, when the case had finalised, an internal review was carried out and social services acknowledged the failings in the case. we were told we would not find out what happened to the social worker, as that breached her confidentiality, her privacy rights, so i don't know what the outcome was. even though she'd breached

your privacy rights? yeah. i think they did give you a written apology and a small amount of compensation, is that right? yes, they obviously wrote and confirmed all the failings in the case, and voluntarily offered us a small financial settlement as a way of acknowledging their failings in the case. what do you think about what she did? when you report something like this and agencies become involved, you trust those in authority. you trust them to know they are doing the right thing, and that they are going to be there to protect you, as the victim, which is what they all advertise they are going to do. and meanwhile, this is somebody we put our trust in, and yet she completely breached our trust, which doesn't help when you're working with other agencies, because you just lose trust in everybody. it's notjust the social worker you lose trust in, you lose trust in everybody. all the professionals who are working with you. in the meantime, over

a period of months in 2014, you were dealt with by 18 different police officers. can you give us a little bit of insight into why it was so many and what effect that had on your case. so, when the investigation started progressing after i had reported one of the rapes, that's when they discovered, obviously, my husband had involved other men. and unfortunately, instead of giving it to one specialised unit to take management of the case and investigate it, it was given to my local police station, to the original detective who had ta ken over the case. and he felt it was just impossible for him. he didn't have the resources to investigate all the incidents. so he decided he would only investigate the incidents that had occurred within the geographical area that he covered, and the rest of the incidents he farmed out to all the other areas. and so it ended up that there were 18 different officers that he then passed the case on to.

and in practical terms, what effect does that have on you? it was horrendous, because i then had to undergo 18 different interviews. i had these officers constantly phoning me whenever they had questions. and it became overwhelming for me. i had asked just to have one specific person, one person appointed as a specific point of contact, and it was refused. the same with the video interviews. i asked if i could have one person doing all the video interviews, and that was refused. it just became overwhelming. i couldn't cope with having to go over the story as a whole, because as much as they were investigating their own individual incidents, i still had to give the overall picture, and having to do that 18 times was just horrendous. it just became incredibly distressing. and it was so overwhelming, i think, that it led to you trying to take your own life. yes. i ultimately ended up standing on a motorway bridge just

wanting to put an end to it all because i couldn't cope. four times in three months you ended up being moved, and your ex—husband was still trying to find you. but the police had stopped investigating him. explain why. when we moved into the new area, the inspector who was in charge of our safeguarding was not happy with the way in which the case was being managed in the previous force with the 18 different officers. he felt it was a safeguarding risk, so he had requested that the case be given to one specific unit and managed that way. but they refused that, and as such he put a temporary stop to all the investigations, because he said it was just impossible to keep us safe. at that point, they had asked us to change names. we had been given new identities. and he just felt that information would not be safe, having to disclose it to so many different police officers. he said it was impossible to safeguard us and keep our address safe, and he said, losing your life

is not worth seeking justice. and he said, ultimately, that's going to happen. that was a devastating decision to have to make. i was filled with guilt. guilt that it allowed my ex—husband and the other offenders to go free, therefore allowing them to potentially go on and harm other people. and guilt, i suppose, from my own perspective. it felt like i was saying, it's ok that you did what you did to me. so it was a very difficult decision. do you use your real names at home? do you use the fake names? no, from the day our names changed, we were not allowed to make any reference at all to our previous names. i think if we did that, it would just be too easy to slip up. so it took quite an adjustment, a couple of weeks, for us all to get used to our new names. the children don't like to discuss it much with their friends.

when they started school theyjust said they transferred in from a different area. what's the impact on your children on having new identities in the new area in which you live? it's been incredibly difficult for them. we live in an age where all children are on social media. they are not allowed to have social media accounts. when they are with friends at school they have to be on constant alert in case somebody is taking a photo to put it on instagram or snapchat or twitter. they can't go to parties. they can't go to school functions. even on themselves, the youngest walked into school one day last year and said they didn't want to be alive any more. so one of them has been suicidal, turned to self harming. it's had a massive impact on them. the same with trust issues. even just being able to trust a teacher, being able to trust a social worker, a police officer, incredibly difficult for them.

it affects every part of their life. how do you know he's still looking for you? the police have got intelligence that he's still looking for us. how does that make you feel? awful. we can never really go on. you are constantly looking over your shoulder. as much as we might feel safe in our new area, when you go out of that area you are constantly searching the crowds, worried, is he going to be there? is somebody going to be there? is somebody going to see you? it's constantly hanging over your head. i don't think you ever really escape that. what about your family, what about your friends, now you have new identities? we had to cut off all contact with them. so from the day that our names were changed, all contact ceased overnight. so no family members, no friends, and that was very difficult, because we didn't get to phone them and say goodbye. and we didn't get to phone and say, this is why it's happening.

it was just, one day you're talking to them, and the next, there's no further contact ever again. so they have no idea what's happened to you? no. that you've effectively disappeared off the face of the earth? yes. oh my goodness. there is a chance that your ex—husband might see this interview. he will know it's you. is that a concern to you? it's always a concern, but i think you reach a point where he has controlled so much of my life, and to still allow him to have control over what i do in the future, you get to a point where you kind of say no. i'm going to take back control over my life, and not allow you to dictate what i can and can't do. what do you hope to achieve by telling people what you have experienced ? it's mainly in support of the campaign that voice for victims is running, which is trying to get

the government to agree to a victim's law. at the moment, the government are happy that there is a victim's code in place. and they seem to believe that's working, which it's not. there are plenty of cases like mine, where victims have been failed when they enter into the criminaljustice system. so it's trying to raise awareness, highlight the failings, and try to get something concrete put down. so if failings like this happen, we can legally challenge them. because without that, we are stuck. almost everything that could have gone wrong with your case, did go wrong. yeah. you have been failed multiple times by the criminaljustice system. yeah, there were failings across all agencies. what do you think about that? it's awful to say that somebody can't seek justice, and we're not talking about 20 or 30 years ago, we are talking about now. and not to be able to seekjustice because the criminaljustice system can't protect you, or provide adequate safeguarding,

is not acceptable in today's day and age, and itjust shouldn't be happening. thank you very much, ivy. thank you for talking to us. thank you for having me on. that was ivy speaking exclusively to us. due to her anonymity and risk to her life from identifying any details, we have been unable to independently verify some aspects of her story. social services in ivy's case have acknowledged that they "fell well short of the expected standard", and she has received an apology from them and some compensation. the british association of social workers also told us incidents like this "should never happen". ivy is now involved in police training programmes, and later in the programme we'll hear from some people who've been supporting her. msas, this is a heartbreaking story.

what an amazing woman. —— ehmer says. samantha says the story is disgusting. the authorities behind it should be ashamed. another tweet says, social workers are leaving the profession in droves. this will add to it. sally says, this is shocking. i thought we had come further than this. i would i thought we had come further than this. iwould be i thought we had come further than this. i would be interested to hear from you, if you have been in a safe location, at a safe address, and inadvertently or otherwise your address has been disclosed to somebody who was threatening you. because on twitter somebody has said, this happens regularly. do let me know if you have got personal experience of this. still to come, we've an exclusive interview with a north korean diplomat who defected last year from its london embassy — he thinks its leader kim jong—un would be prepared to attack los angeles with nuclear weapons, if his survival in power depended on it. and it's traditionally been thought that dogs are more intelligent than cats but new research calls that into question. this is very controversial research

and you are responding. samantha says, everyone who owns a cat already thinks they are more intelligent than dogs. i have six and they are out to do the dog every time. stewart says cats are more intelligent than some people. trevor agrees cats are some asthma more intelligent. their independence prevents us from exploiting the fa ct. prevents us from exploiting the fact. the dogs are more fun. we will talk to the researchers behind the tests which suggest cats are as good as dogs when it comes to memory tests. here'sjoanna in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. president trump is expected to sign

several executive orders relating to immigration and security over the next few days. it comes as senior republicans call on mr trump to drop his claim that millions of illegal immigrants voted in the presidential election. helping rival hillary clinton win the popular vote. pressure is growing on theresa may to set out her negotiating position on brexit in a formal document known as a white paper which would be put before the house of commons. it follow yesterday's supreme court judgment, which ruled that the prime minister must give parliament a vote before triggering article 50, the formal process for leaving the eu. it's thought a brexit bill could be introduced as early as tomorrow. grammar school headteachers in england have warned that they may ask parents for hundreds of pounds a year to cope with funding cuts. the grammar school heads association says proposed changes to school funding will see a majority of them lose money. a number of conservative mps are urging the government to change its plans. but the department for education says it's ending a postcode lottery in school funding. women who have a third child

after being raped will now have to prove what happened to avoid losing money through new tax credit restrictions. from april, tax credits will be limited to a family's first two children. the government published a new so—called "rape clause" on friday exempting women whose third or subsequent child was born as a result of rape. the move has been described by campaigners as "inhumane" and "degrading". the government says it was "important to have an exception in place to support claimants". women are experiencing discrimination when it comes to dress codes at work, according to a parliamentary report. mps heard from hundreds of women who reported that the codes they were subject to were sexist. they began an inquiry after a receptionist was sent home for refusing to wear high heels. a mother of two on the run from her violent ex—husband told this programme how a social worker disclosed the location of her safe

house twice resulting in two vicious revenge attacks. ivy, not her real name, was considered by police to be at high risk of being murdered. in the end the police advised her to drop the investigation into her husband as they couldn't guarantee her safety. crystal says, "i couldn't get a restraining order against my abusive ex because my solicitor said it would give my husband the right to see our children unsupervised." . this viewer says, "this case is a disgrace." here's some sport now with reshmin. the british number onejohanna konta is out of the australian open, after losing her quarter final match with the six—time champion serena williams. konta had been on a nine—match winning streak, but came up short in herfirst meeting with the 22—time grand slam champion.

she lost it in straight sets 6—2, 6—3 after just over an hour out on court. joe root has been declared fit to play in england's first twenty20 against india on thursday. he sat out england's five—run win in the final one—day international. but bowler david willey has been ruled out with a shoulder injury. sir alex ferguson has given the manchester united manager jose mourinho the thumbs up. despite being sixth in the table, united are on a three—match unbeaten run in the league and ferguson believes that's all down to the portuguese keeping control of his emotions. england's women were held to a goalless draw with sweden last night in theirfriendly in spain. goalkeeper siobhan chamberlain gets the credit. she saved a second—half penalty. next up for mark sampson's team is the she believes cup in the usa. good morning. there are growing calls from mps for the government to publish its plan for brexit in a formal policy document. norman smith can tell us more. so is the prime minister going to

have to climb down? i think she may vic, here we are the day after that big supreme court ruling and yes, mrs may maybe facing defeat on part of her brexit game plan. just to be clear, what mps are pressing for and we're talking not just clear, what mps are pressing for and we're talking notjust about opposition mps, we're talking about a handful of conservative rebels too. they're pressing for what's called a white paper. now, what that basically means the government would have to produce a formal document setting out what mrs may's objectives and approaches to the brexit negotiations now. team may are saying we don't want to publish that because they think it's just a sort of wheeze, it is another demand by mps. they say first of all, mps demanded mrs may set out her objectives and she did that in a speech last week and then they wa nted speech last week and then they wanted a vote. they're getting a

vote and now they're wanting a white paper, in other words they keep asking for more and more so they are saying enough is enough. and there is another reason too, their fear is if mrs may has to put down in black and white her game plan then that will reveal more than she wants to other eu leaders. in other words it could damage how she handle the negotiations and certainly that was the view of the former tory leader michael howard when he was asked about the idea of a white paper this morning. the risk is they set out our negotiating position and that plays into the hands of the people they're negotiating with. if you set out for example your priorities, the people you're negotiating with say, "right, well, we can forget about the things which you say are a lesser prior because you're not really interested in them." that would be a foolish thing to do. the mps pressing for the white paper say, "calm down. calm down. there is nothing particularly dramatic about asking

for a white paper. pretty much every government when they've gone into eu negotiations before over other eu treaties, has always produced a white paper so that mps know what it is the government is trying to achieve. and so, the shadow attorney—general, when she was asked this morning said that you know, parliament has to be kept informed about the brexit process. it's very important that parliament is now given the role that the court said they must have. whether you voted to remain or to leave the european union, one thing is clear — you believe in parliamentary sovereignty because that's the over arching principle of democracy in the uk and the government must respect that now. what happens now then, norman? has the court judgement changed anything really? well, it's changed something quite fundamental if that there will now have to be a legislation to trigger this article 50 beginning the process that takes us out of the eu

and the expectation is we will get that bill tomorrow. so the government will show us the legislation which we are expecting it to be a very paired down minimalist bill, just a couple of clauses which could restrict the scope for mps to table critical amendments so it is published tomorrow. mps probably begin to debate and vote on it next week. that will, i expect, go on for around a fortnight, by which time the government will hope to have got the government will hope to have got the bill through the house of commons. there is then a sort of half term week recess so everyone goes away for a week. then, the government will try and get it through the house of lords. now that's the much more problematic business because getting legislation through the house of lords, i mean, the house of lords are like unruly spaniels, they pretty much do what they want when it comes to legislation, they can decide what amendments they want to take. they can decide how long they're going to

talk for. they can go on forever and a day and the crucially the government doesn't have a majority in the house of lords so it is much more vulnerable to things going pear—shaped in the house of lords. thank you very much, norman. we will have more on the war of words developing between the american press and tv networks and donald trump. ifa donald trump. if a woman has a third child conceived after she was raped, she will have to prove she was raped in order to claim tax credits for that child. the plan has been described as inhumane and degrading. from this april, child tax credits will be limited to family's first two children. however, they say the woman will need to provide evidence

that they have been raped. let's get reaction to this from alice irving, who was raped when she was at university and now campaigns to raise awareness. she has waived her right to anonymity to talk to us this morning. and also with us is debbie abrahams, a labour mp and the party's spokesperson on welfare and benefits. alice, what do you think of this? alice, what do you think of thi57m is appalling. i can't easily put into words how difficult it is to make the decision to disclose and to describe to somebody what's happened to you. i would say that many women choose never to disclose. there is a huge amount of shame, guilt, you know that you're unlikely to be believed and i mean, the average rape victim gets that response on a daily basis. let alone if you're somebody who is trying to claim welfare and we know that these people are disbelieved as well. the

disclosure i made was met with a poor response including to gps which are some of the people who are being proposed to assess the credibility claims. when you are making a report ina claims. when you are making a report in a official capacity, you're not just saying i was raped which is ha rd just saying i was raped which is hard enough to get out, to establish your credibility, you are having to give them enough detail of what happened for them to believe you and to go through that process and to have those pointed questions asked is to relive that trauma. i was raped once. the woman that are going to be dealt with under this policy often will be as you've heard from, ivy this morning, victims of systematic rape over many years and just the thought of having to be forced to choose between funding for your child and reliving that experience with somebody you wouldn't trust if i were in their position, isjust, it is disgusting frankly. debbie, can wejust position, isjust, it is disgusting frankly. debbie, can we just talk through how this might work in practical terms. after consultation

between the department for work and pensions and hmrc, they concluded last friday that they would press ahead with, "a third party evidence model offering the most promising approach." so as the woman, you would have to... the burden of proof would have to... the burden of proof would be with you. the burden of proof would be on you, either a gp ora proof would be on you, either a gp or a police officer or someone else. who would then assess that that's my concern, who would then assess that that's my concern, really. someone in the dwp, ina concern, really. someone in the dwp, in ajobcentre concern, really. someone in the dwp, in a jobcentre or health centre? well, precisely. we don't have the details of that. we absolutely oppose this proposal which is part of the work, welfare reform and work act, it is punishing rape victims and it is punishing their children and it is punishing their children and we see it in the context of a

social security which is punitive, it is one that's based on not believing you, you have to provide the evidence and even if we compare for example the work capability assessment, evidence from gps, and consultants often isn't believed. so this is again, as alice has said, it is adding to the trauma and i really have concerns in terms of the competence and sensitivity in which it will be handled. as i say, we see similar sort of systems with dwp, they haven't worked well. after i have been here i'm going to the vigil of somebody who was fit for work and died after going to the jobcentre. i mean, this is happening unfortunately too often. and this, asi unfortunately too often. and this, as i say, will add to the trauma of rape victims. further punishing children who will be driven into poverty with all the effects, not just while they're children, but for

the rest of their lives. what are you going to do about it? well, we are strongly opposing it. one of the things we have coming up is a campaign around child poverty and life chances. dan jarvis campaign around child poverty and life chances. danjarvis for example has a bill around that to raise the public's awareness of what's happening. so this is in the context of three out of the four million children who are living in poverty are in working families so the government's mantra has been about making work pay and so on and it's not happening for these children and asi not happening for these children and as i say, in terms of the sensitivity of what's happening around rape victims, it is beyond the pail. you gave us some insight into the difficulties of what had happened to you with those in authority. what

made you want to speak out publicly and wave your right to anonymity?” think the only way this is going to change is if people make the point of saying this is not being dealt with well. i was scoffed at when i tried to access emergency health care. if somebody doesn't say this is happening, it's going to keep happening. i'm in a position which i got fantastic support. i've had access to private therapy, all the support i could need to make the choice to speak out. but the point is, it is a choice. if i find it too hard, ican is, it is a choice. if i find it too hard, i can always stop. there is no support for these women. they are not going to have, there is nothing to say that they will have mental health support. and they are being forced, effectively, to choose between possibly child poverty for

their children, or to go through this trauma. this is the context of the mental health crisis, notjust the mental health crisis, notjust the nhs crisis. the government has decided that after two children, child tax credits will be cut off. what about the principle that they are trying to find a way for women to receive a child after rape to be able to get tax credits for that child, bud pierce, they are also asking per evidence? it has to be looked at in the context of the real trauma that these women have been through. there is no way of describing it other than as an inhumane policy. is this really a society that we want? we certainly will be campaigning with crisis macro and other organisations. —— crisis. this is what is happening.

this is a government policy. can i add something? even if you can prove coercion, control, rape, you cannot claim that tax credit if you are still with the perpetrator under the current policy because they don't wa nt current policy because they don't want him to bed —— benefit. the story we heard from ivy talked about how hard it is to leave someone like that, and how one safe it is. not only now is in the case that we are expecting somebody who wants to access funding to help raise their child to prove rape, but also to put themselves in a very dangerous position of going through the process of leaving an abusive partner. i have some messages from our audience saying they cannot believe that this is actually going to happen. one says, hard to believe women have to prove they have been raved —— raped. glenn says, unbelievable. what kind of sick individual would think that is acceptable? another says, what is to

stop people just saying, acceptable? another says, what is to stop peoplejust saying, i acceptable? another says, what is to stop people just saying, i was raped, to claim child tax credits? this is classic. you have two categories of people who i never believed. rape complainants and welfare recipients. the system is rigged against these people. you would never buy choice come forward. the broad point is the whole policy itself is so questionable. if a policy requires an exception like this to even slightly function potentially humanely, you have to really question having this childcare. spot-on. another says, this is victimising all over again. absolutely. thank you both very much. coming up, we have an exclusive interview with a north korean diplomat who defected last year from its london embassy. he has got some real insight.

he thinks its leader kim jong—un would be prepared to attack los angeles with nuclear weapons, if his survival in power depended on it. chip —— kimjong un, ithink, will press the button of this dangerous weapons when he thinks that he is through and his dynasty is threatened to be collapsed, yes. he would destroy los angeles, even though the retaliation would kill him? yes. now, the idea that dogs are more intelligent than cats has been called into question. japanese scientists say cats are as good as dogs at certain memory tests, suggesting they may be just as smart. let's find out more.

we can speak to drjohn bradshaw from the university of bristol school of veterinary science and presenter of the television programme, the secret life of cats. and david kornhause from kyoto university injapan. john, hello. no, it's david. hello. tell us a little bit about this study? yes. well actually, i'm not the researcher, i'm the communications director for the university. the research team has been working with many different kinds of animals over the years, including dogs and cats. and what they are especially wanting to show with this new work is that cats are probably a lot more intelligent than

we had imagined. there has been a sense that maybe dogs, because their reactions to dog owners are more obvious or mortier, are some are more intelligent as a result. but actually, when the experiments are done carefully, cats are being shown to have the same kind of memory that dogs have. 0k. it is quite a small study. it is 49 domestic cats. can you tell us a little bit about the tests they went through? the tests themselves are in specific memory related to how food is being eaten by the cats. we are just showing pictures of a cat falling in a bath, which doesn't show they are particularly intelligent. it is about the bowls the eight from?

exactly. it was shown they were able to recall specific memories on their own. not necessarily in reaction to something else. but as a fond memory. 0k. and that was not expected, that was surprising? well actually, over the years, re—searchers have been finding that it seems that many animals that we see ina it seems that many animals that we see in a domestic context have fairly similar kinds of memory and intelligence. but the way they show them and the different kinds of strengths and weaknesses they have, sometimes mask their actually ability. let me bring in doctorjohn bradshaw. what do you think of this, john? i think that the idea that cats are as intelligent as dogs is a

perfectly sensible one. we know they both have very similar brains. they are much more similar to each other than they are to humans. we would expect to find similar levels of intelligence. but as your previous speedo was saying, maybe they demonstrated differently because of the different ways they have been domesticated. 0k. the different ways they have been domesticated. ok. you observe cats. what did you discover about them? cats are very tuned into places, places where they go, places where they can find things they want. this new research essentially confirms that in relation to food. cats are hunters. we have kept them as hunters. we have kept them as hunters for most of their history while they have been domesticated. it is only recently we don't like it any more. their minds are very much tuned in to find in their next meal. and in particular, where did they la st and in particular, where did they last catch a mouse? where did they la st last catch a mouse? where did they last smell a mouse that they didn't

catch? that maybe the right place to go back to. that is the kind of thing that has been shown in this research. what do we do with this research, how should we... what do we do with it? i think we respect the difference. dogs, we don't want to say cats are brighter than dogs, because they can remember which bowl used to have food in. the way dogs react, particularly, is to look at their owners, keep react, particularly, is to look at theirowners, keep their react, particularly, is to look at their owners, keep their eye on their owners, keep their eye on their owners, keep their eye on their owners all the time and react to that, whereas cats are more interested in the places they are in and a bit less interested in the honour. thank you both very much. doctorjohn bradshaw. and david from kyoto university. the daughter of michaeljackson says she believes her father was murdered, and says he'd often "drop hints" that people wanted to kill him. radio1 newsbeat‘s sinead garvan can tell us more. this is her first

this is herfirst ever in—depth interview, which she gave to rolling stone magazine? she did indeed. it is the start of her wanting to launch a career as a model and aspiring actress. the whole point of it was, i will say this once and as igo it was, i will say this once and as i go about my life, the information is out there. very revealing interview, very sad, quite dark at times. the biggest allegation she makes is that her dad was indeed murdered. obviously what we know is he died of cardiac arrest because of an overdose of prescription drugs. and then his personal physician, doctor conrad murray, served two yea rs doctor conrad murray, served two years injailfor doctor conrad murray, served two years in jail for involuntary manslaughter. what she says is that it is obvious, all arrows point to the fact he was murdered. it sounds like a total conspiracy theory, but what —— but real fans and everybody in the family know it was a real setup. she said a lot of —ish ——

people had issues with michael jackson. she said there were times when her dad would say that there we re when her dad would say that there were serious people out there who wa nted were serious people out there who wanted to get him. she said at one point they would kill him. she then goes into how this affected her mental health. and very severely, it would seem, she says she tried to kill herself three times. it is about self—hatred, low self—esteem. she then ended a up in a therapeutic high school for most of her education. this was a place where she would have her classes but also intensive therapy to deal with everything that happened. she also talked about some of the happier moments of her extraordinary life with her dad, who was michael jackson? exactly. we get a lovely insight into him. she was home—schooled with her brother, prince. that was show she would spend more time with dad. —— that

was so. spend more time with dad. —— that was so. she said, when you are at home, dad would come in the middle of class and say, no more class for the rest of the day. she also talks about how he taught her how to cook. his speciality was fried chicken and sweet potato pie. she now lives in the studio where michaeljackson demoed eat it. it has been turned into apartments on the michael jackson compound. you can imagine how much that would be worth if it was put up for auction. she tweeted last night, after the interview was published, that she wouldn't be talking about anything else. if you have questions, read it. that is her basically saying, i've said it all now. she also talked about how the allegations she made are being looked into. it is a complicate chess puzzle. thank you very much.

thank you for your comments on save address is being disclosed to the authorities, putting you at risk. i will read some of those in the next hour. they are quite incredible. we will bring you the latest news and sport in a moment. first, the weather. good morning. it has been a foggy start for some. in fa ct, has been a foggy start for some. in fact, we still have some of that fog around. it wasn't for the absolutely everywhere. some of us got off to a fine start. weather watchers doing is proud once again this morning. as we move into scotland, a fine start. looking further south, it was frosty in bristol. not a bad start nonetheless. then we ran into the fog. we had fog this morning in surrey. we still have some fog around. part of the midlands, the south coast, north—east england as well. a lot of that will lift through the course of the morning.

that is because we start pulling in some cloud from the near continent, and that will lift the fog. it will feel cold. as we drift towards the south—west, already we have got some clear skies. it is milder. sunshine this morning across wales. breezy towards the west. and when the fog lifts from the vale of york, we should see some sunshine as we should see some sunshine as we should across southern part of northern england. for northern england and scotland, cloud. a mild start. temperatures in the north—west highlands at the moment, 13 celsius. in the north—west, severe gales. later we will see the arrival of some rain. in the south, that fog continues to lift into low cloud. feeling quite cold. i've towards the west we have got higher values. it is also going to be rather windy. through this evening and overnight, not so much of a problem with fog. there will be more wind around. the wind is strongest

in the west. we are looking at a widespread frost. some of us will see snow flurry —— snow flurries or drizzle. watch out if you're travelling early on. as we go through the course of tomorrow, again we are looking at a fine day. some snow flurries, not enough to build a snowman. are going to be subjected to a wind from france. that will have an ad —— an adverse effect on the cabbages. it will feel more like minus five degrees. on friday, we still have a keen south—easterly wind. despite the temperatures, it will feel cold. towards the west, and atlantic weather front is coming our way, that will introduce rain. it will bring milder conditions. hello. it's wednesday. it's10am. i'm victoria derbyshire. this morning, a victim

of domestic abuse on the run from her abusive ex—husband tells this programme a social worker disclosed the location of her secret safe house twice. shejust did exactly she just did exactly the same as soon as she just did exactly the same as soon as we'd been move the second time. she disclosed where we had been living. by that time we had also changed all our mobile numbers. she gave him our new numbers and for the same reasoning. we will bring you reaction shortly. also on the programme, "i swear to tell the post truth, the alternative truth and nothing like the truth" — that's how satirical magazine private eye mocks donald trump's inauguration as president. overnight there have been more clashes between trump's spokesman and the press over facts. exactly what evidence? speaker ryan said there is no evidence. the national secretaries of state say they don't agree with the president's assessment. what evidence do you have? the president believed that for a while and based

on studies and information he has. a north korean diplomat who defected claims kimjong—un would be prepared to attack los angeles with nuclear weapons. we've an exclusive interview with him. kimjong—un, i kim jong—un, i think, kimjong—un, i think, will press the button. he would destroy los angeles even though the retaliation would kill him? yes. yes. good morning. here'sjoanna in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. president trump says he's planning what he calls a "big day" on national security, including an announcement on his pledge to build a wall along the us border with mexico. he's expected to sign several executive orders relating to immigration and security over the next few days. it comes as senior republicans call on mr trump to drop his claim that millions of illegal immigrants voted in the presidential election, helping rival hillary clinton win the popular vote. mps have increased pressure on theresa may to set

out her negotiating position on brexit in a white paper to be presented to the house of commons. it follow yesterday's supreme court judgment, which ruled that the prime minister must give parliament a vote before triggering article 50, the formal process for leaving the eu. it's thought legislation could be introduced as early as tomorrow. at least six people have been killed in a terror attack on a hotel in the capital of somalia, mogadishu. the attackers rammed the gates of the dayah hotel with a car full of explosives, before gunmen entered the hotel and started shooting. the hotel is popular with somali politicians and foreign dignitaries. the terrorist group al—shabaab says it carried out the attack. a mother of two on the run from her violent ex—husband has told this programme how a social worker disclosed the location of her safe house twice, resulting in two vicious revenge attacks. ivy, which is not her real name,

was considered by police to be at high risk of being murdered. she told victoria she was let down by nearly every agency supposed to be protecting her. in the end police advised her to drop the investigation into her ex—husband as they couldn't guarantee her safety. this is somebody we put our trust in and yet she breached our trust. it's not just the social worker you and yet she breached our trust. it's notjust the social worker you lose trust in. you lose trust in everybody. all the professionals who are working with you. three bodies have been discovered after a house fire in reigate in surrey. the bodies of a man, woman and child were found in the ruins of a farm cottage following a fire which is believed to have burnt all night. a delayed upgrade to the radio system, used by the emergency services in england, scotland and wales, may end up costing taxpayers £475 million a year. mps on the public accounts committee say the planned new system isn't used by any other country,

and needs to be properly tested. the service, which will use 4g and ee, was supposed to be ready last year but won't be available until 2019. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10.30am. simon says, "my granddaughter was abused and put into a safe house. last week she was chased for a debt which herformer abuser last week she was chased for a debt which her former abuser had last week she was chased for a debt which herformer abuser had run up. she has two children and everything is weighted towards the abuse. he seems to be untouchable and gets away with everything." do get in touch with us throughout the morning. we appreciate these messages from

you with experience of the kind of issues that we're experiencing today. here's some sport now with reshmin. the british number onejohanna konta is out of the australian open. she was the only brit left in the competition, but was simply outplayed in her quarterfinal match with the six—time champion serena williams. konta had been on a nine—match winning streak but came up short in herfirst meeting with the 22—time grand slam champion. she lost it in straight sets 6—2, 6—3. they were on court forjust over an hour. so williams is now on the hunt for a 23rd title and what would be an open—era record. tough for konta of course, but she has plenty to be proud of. she hadn't even dropped a set all tournament. well, i think overall she played at a higher level than i did today. i think she showed why she is, arguably the one of the best of all times. i think i really enjoyed my times. i think i really enjoyed my time out there on court against her.

i was able to, well, i hope i will be able to bring a lot away from it and things that i will be able to reuse and hopefully i'll get a chance to play her again in other matches as well. liverpool forward philippe coutinho has signed a new five—year contract this morning. the deal is worth about £150,000 a week and makes him the highest paid player at the club. the brazilian international has been hugely influential this season and his seven weeks on the sidelines with ankle ligament damage coincided with liverpool's worst run of form this season. managerjurgen klopp has described his play—maker as "world class". joe root has been declared fit to play in england's first twenty20 against india on thursday. he sat out england's five—run win in the final one—day international in kolkata. but bowler david willey has been ruled out with a shoulder injury. sir alex ferguson says thatjose mourinho is doing a greatjob at

manchester united. the portuguese has been in charge at united for eight months, but the club currently trail leaders chelsea by 1a points and are sixth in the table. sir alex though, believes his old club are unlucky not to be higher up. they haven't lost in the league for three months and the key to that, thinks the scotsman, is mourinho keeping i think thatjose is finding solutions now. there was a period earlier in the season when he wasn't making decisions and his emotioning boiled over. he is an emotional guy and now you see him now, he's calm and now you see him now, he's calm and he's in control. that's the obvious observation i am making of the team now. the team is playing with great energy, determination, will to win, which i think is really important. england's women played the second of their two friendlies in spain yesterday. norway ended their ten—match unbeaten on sunday and they were held to a 0—0 draw with sweden last

night in murcia. goalkeeper, siobhan chamberlain, kept them in it after saving a second—half penalty. the next step in england's preparation for the european championship this summer is the she believes cup, a tournament in the usa. and that's all the sport. thank you, victoria. this morning we've bought you ivy's story. she's a mum of two who was in hiding and on the run from her violent ex—husband when a social worker twice disclosed the details of her safe house, leading to vicious attacks. ivy, which is not her real name, was considered by police to be at high risk of being murdered. we have had many comments from you which suggests this is not an isolated case. this e—mail says, "i was ina isolated case. this e—mail says, "i was in a woman's aid refuge with my two children aged five and eight. and a family courtjudge ordered the

refuge manager to divulge the address of the house or she, the manager, would be held in contempt of court. the same judge then ordered that i let the children return to the home. so i felt i had no choice, but to return with them. thejudge was later no choice, but to return with them. the judge was later criticised by a high courtjudge. the judge was later criticised by a high court judge. this the judge was later criticised by a high courtjudge. this was 18 years ago. but from your story this morning, there is still so much work to do to keep victims of domestic violence safe." sue e—mails to say, "i would like to say that this is shocking, but unfortunately i don't think it is so unusual for agencies to fail victims. i'm not sure if it's because the law is not victim focussed or whether it's because of individual personalities working within agencies making personal judgements instead of following proper procedures and using due diligence. shame on those who failed ivy's family in a spectacular way." this e—mailer says, "it makes my blood run cold as my daughter is

going through something similar. having survived two strangulation attem pts having survived two strangulation attempts and beatings and knife threats and an explosion in her home and much more including harm to their son and friends two boys, she finally got him out of their rented accommodation in early december." well, social services have apologised for failings in well, social services have apologised forfailings in ivy's case. we played you herfull interview earlier. here is an extra ct. interview earlier. here is an extract. it is distressing and there are some details that you might not wa nt are some details that you might not want children to hear. it started off with sexual violence, so raping, and then progressed from there to physical violence, which started out as punching and kicking. and then slowly progressed from there. there were weapons involved, in terms of a knife. strangling me until i was unconscious. and then, later on, he involved other men, which obviously included raping by other men. what impact did all this have on you?

i now suffer with complex post—traumatic stress disorder. i've had multiple suicide attempts. i certainly don't trust anybody. i find it very hard to trust anybody. eventually, the authorities realised you were at risk of very serious harm, and your children, and they moved you to emergency accommodation. but the social worker involved made a monumental error. she disclosed our address to my ex—husband. she claimed it was his parental right to know where his children were living. and what was the result of the social worker disclosing your address? he found us at that address, and i was assaulted again by him. and, astonishingly, this happened a second time with the same social worker after you'd been moved again to safe accommodation. yeah, yeah, shejust did exactly the same as soon as we'd been moved the second time. you were dealt with by 18

different police officers. the original detective who had ta ken over the case, he decided he would only investigate the incidents that had occurred within the geographical area that he covered, and the rest of the incidents he farmed out to all the other areas. and so it ended up that there were 18 different officers that he then passed the case on to. i ultimately ended up standing on a motorway bridge just wanting to put an end to it all because i couldn't cope. your ex—husband was still trying to find you. but the police had stopped investigating him. explain why. when we moved into the new area, the inspector who was in charge of our safeguarding, he said it was just impossible to keep our address safe. and he said, losing your life is not worth seeking justice. what's the impact on your children? they are not allowed to have social media accounts. when they are with friends at school they have to be on constant alert in case somebody is taking a photo. one of them has been suicidal,

turned to self harming. it's had a massive impact on them. what do you hope to achieve by telling people what you have experienced ? at the moment, the government are happy that there is a victim's code in place. and they seem to believe that's working, which it's not. it's awful to say that somebody can't seek justice, and itjust shouldn't be happening. and ivy's words were spoken for her then. due to her levels of anonymity and the risk to her life from identifying any details, we have been unable to independently verify some aspects of her story. watching that with us was claire waxman, a victim of stalking for 12 years and founder of voice 4 victims, which gives support to victims who are going through the criminaljustice system. she's been supporting ivy. and baroness sal brinton, who met ivy as part of her evidence gathering.

she's trying to make amendments to the victims code in the house of lords, to make it a statutory obligation. to make sure the relevant agencies do theirjob. can we just talk about the social worker who twice disclosed the safe address to the violent ex—husband ? disclosed the safe address to the violent ex—husband? i cannot get into the head of that social worker. you are telling me this is not an isolated case. sadly not. obviously, ivy's cases extreme and harrowing. but i'm hearing daily from victims of all crime types who come to us, where their rights have been breached, where you have multiple agencies, notjust social breached, where you have multiple agencies, not just social workers, people within the police, the courts, disclosing sensitive and personal information that rebuilds their identity or save addresses, thatis their identity or save addresses, that is quite common, sadly. in this particular case, it is so obvious

that if the former husband comes and beats her up because he has now got her address, once, if beats her up because he has now got heraddress, once, if he beats her up because he has now got her address, once, if he gets the second address, he will dudi sela thing. the social worker, and second address, he will dudi sela thing. the socialworker, and i'm only speculating, they don't see the point of view of the victim. they don't seem to get it. it is entrenched within the system. it is geared towards the abuser‘s rides. they seem to be manipulated by them. they seem to be manipulated by them. they seem to push more towards their side. with the victims law we want to make the system fair for everybody. sal brinton, what did you make of what ivy has experienced? everybody. sal brinton, what did you make of what ivy has experienced ?m was extreme but not unusual. there are plenty of victims i've talked to who have had some of the experiences that ivy had. ivy's story is

particularly horrific. everything seems to have gone wrong at every particular stage. but for one woman, for one thing to go wrong company as bad as the incident itself that actually brought her perpetrator into the criminaljustice system. and that is the problem. ministers keep saying the victim 's and that is the problem. ministers keep saying the victim '5 code is fine, it is there, victims have an entitlement. for example, to one police contact, one number. repeatedly it doesn't happen. the real problem is there is no duty on the agencies to fulfil the victims' code. that is why we have been asking for a victims' law. of course there is a duty to safeguard victims. it is theirjob. some of them are. unfortunately, it is patchy. that is because there is no duty on, for example, police, to

provide proper training at all levels for everyone who comes into contact with the victims. because it is not law. we haven't got the fundamental to right. the system is flawed and disjointed. there are lots of gaps. what we are pushing for it is a case companion who would bridge those gaps from agency to agency on behalf of the victim. in ivy's case that would have helped to alert the issues. make sure there is one point of contact for police interviews. there are enhanced entitlements for a victim such as ivy, a vulnerable victim of sexual violence. she should have had the same sex officer, she should have that one officer. they should have limited it but they failed. but that is just limited it but they failed. but that isjust one fairing limited it but they failed. but that is just one fairing of lots of feelings because the agencies are not adhering to the code. they don't understand what is within the code. that is the fundamental problem. and the notion that in the end she was advised to drop the case because the

detective who did care and who was trying to do hisjob properly, couldn't guarantee that all of the other officers who would be involved might inadvertently disclose her location again? absolutely. we have heard evidence from the families of people who have been murdered. alice, who was on early, would not be covered by the victims' code because it excludes the department for work and pensions and the national health service. there are holes in the victim's code. in terms of yourcampaign, holes in the victim's code. in terms of your campaign, which you have been running for three years, where are you up to in terms of trying to make the victims' code law? last week we got a concession. we met with the ministers. the ministers we re with the ministers. the ministers were firm. they said to us that the code works. we said it didn't. you

are not seeing the evidence. we are giving report after report. we giving report after report. we giving you case studies. we can't show of how much this code is failing. they have made a concession toa12 failing. they have made a concession to a 12 month time frame where they can review the code, look at making agencies accountable, so that we, the victims, will continue to hold the victims, will continue to hold the government to account on that. we have got a statement. we asked foran we have got a statement. we asked for an interview with someone from the department ofjustice and they gave us the department ofjustice and they gave us a the department ofjustice and they gave us a statement. they recognise more needs to be done which is why they have committed to strengthening victims' rights. they will set out their strategy in due course. what does that mean? nothing at the moment because that is what they have been saying for the last couple of years. that is less strong than the ministers said to me in the chamber last week, where she said specifically they would bring forward legislation to make sure the agencies fulfilled their duties if the review showed that is not

happening. i will hold them to account. they are not seeing this as account. they are not seeing this as a priority. they are being told by officers that that code is working fine. we have heard all of the victims' agencies of terrible failings. putting victims at high risk and creating more trauma. they need to take action now. we have to keep pushing them. thank you for coming in. claire waxman and baroness sal brinton. we will continue to follow their progress. it's not even been a week since president donald trump's inauguration, and there's a war of words developing with the american press and tv networks. a man at the heart of the row is president trump's press secretary sean spicer. he's repeatedly accused the mainstream media of lying about how many people had turned out for friday's inauguration, despite images which seemed to show otherwise. this gave rise to the phrase "alternative facts", as one of his colleagues, kellyanne conway, defended him. it's a phrase we're

going to be hearing a lot more of in the future. the white house chief of staff, reince priebus, went further, accusing parts of the american media of trying to "de—legitimise" the presidency of donald trump. so will the world of alternative facts harm his presidency, or will the traditional media be the losers, as trump continues his direct connection with his voters via twitter and facebook? here's some of what happened in a press conference last night and over the last few days. does the president believe that millions voted illegally in this election and what evidence do you have of widespread voter fraud in this election if that's the case? the president does believe that. he has stated that before. i think he stated his concerns voter fraud and people voting illegally during the campaign and he continues to maintain that belief based on studies and evidence that people presented to him. exactly what evidence? speaker ryan said there is no evidence. the national association of secretaries of state say that they don't agree with the president's assessment.

what evidence do you have? as i said, i think the president has believed that for a while based on studies. he again asserted that he would have won the popular vote if it weren't for three to five million illegal votes. did you feel the need to correct him? does it trouble you that he continues to hold a belief like this that isn't based in fact? look, i've already commented on that. i have seen no evidence to that effect and i've made that very, very clear. the president of the united states is claiming that 3.5 million people voted illegally, that shakes confidence in our democracy. he needs to disclose why he believes that are. i don't believe that. it is most inappropriate thing for the president to say without proof. photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way in one particular tweet to minimise the enormous support that it gathered on the national mall. we know that 420,000 people used the dc metro public transit

yesterday which is actually compares to 317,000 that used it for president obama's last inaugural. this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration period both in person and around the globe. you're saying it is a falsehood and they're giving shaken spicer, our press secretary gave alternatives facts to that, but the point remains... alternative facts for the five facts he uttered. they were not just true. look alternative facts are not facts. they're falsehoods. chuck, do you think it's a fact or not that millions of people have lost their plans or health insurance and their doctors under president obama? do you think it is a fact that everything we heard from these women yesterday happeneded on the watch of barack obama? he was president for eight years. donald trump has been here more about eight hours. is it your intention to always tell the truth from that podium and will you pledge to never glowingingly say that's not factual?

it is. it is an honour to do this and yes, i believe that we have to be honest with the american people. i think sometimes we can disagree with the facts. let's talk now to thomas friedman, new york times columnist. he says president trump's distortion of the truth makes him a " reckless leader". and in texas is brad pascoe. president trump paid his company $91; million to run his digital campaign during the election. journalist steve gruber runs a conservative talk show. he's in michigan, voted for donald trump and he says mr trump will easily win a second term in 2020 if the press continue to attack him unnecessarily. we're alsojoined byjena friedman, a democrat and stand—up comedian who has worked on the the daily show. thomas friedman, we heard sean spicer sing the new york times had got it wrong. how are you responding? the facts are the facts. we have photos, we have the numbers.

how many people turned out for obama's first inauguration, how many turned out for this. you can't say the earth revolves around the sun and you think the sun revolves around the earth. maths is maths. two plus two never adds up to five. this administration seems to have a certain proclivity for a making of their own map. eventually it will com pletely their own map. eventually it will completely undermine them because i've just written a new book, which is about the moment that we are in right now. we are in a moment of incredible acceleration, where small areas of navigation can have huge consequences. on one of the problems trump will have is, sometime in the next few months, north korea, for example, the caa will tell the president they have developed a long—range missile that can hit los angeles. —— the cia. maybe something bad will go wrong. he will have to

come to the american people and say, look, these were the facts. and people will say, are those like the fa ct people will say, are those like the fact that two plus two added up to five at the inauguration? he is setting himself up to completely undermine his leadership. steve gruber, you are shaking your head in disagreement. let's start with this. three electoral votes to two of the win32. hillary clinton's turnout for his inauguration was zero. the fact that the matter is donald trump was doing exactly what the people elected him to do, to deal with tpp, the keystone pipeline, jobs and immigration. the distraction of crowd size and illegal voting is all fine and well... you may be right using the word distraction. but why is sean spicer disputing facts?” was there and it looked like a million people to me. what matters

honestly, seriously, this is what matters in people in michigan where lam, matters in people in michigan where i am, donald trump will carry michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. can you imagine leaders who had endorsed hillary clinton are now on board the donald trump bandwagon. if madonna, ashleyjudd, if the media, if everybody across america continue to attack donald trump in this way, the silent majority that arose up in the silent majority that arose up in the middle of america, in the middle class working families and home, will return donald trump to the white house once again. i say put michael moore on tour. we would like to see him every day and hear what he has to say. it helps donald trump's calls every day. you not answering the question. the question was, it was a lie. i think it's interesting with pundits how you talk so quickly that you can kind of

avoid victoria's question.” talk so quickly that you can kind of avoid victoria's question. i didn't avoid victoria's question. i didn't avoid any questions. you chose to talk about the oil pipeline and the workers. absolutely, that is a huge issue. that is what he was elected to do. absolutely but we are talking about the facts that sean spicer has disputed at the weekend. it was suggested they are putting forward alternative facts, which we know our lives. what is your question? why are you doing that? are you saying illegal aliens didn't vote? of course they voted. we should do an investigation of illegal voting in this country. donald trump likes to win and run the table at everything he does. talk about alternative facts. voter suppression where?

demonstrate something. you cannot. north carolina. site mac ——. demonstrate something. you cannot. north carolina. site mac --. you have no proof. that isn't the outrageous. you have no proof. have no proof. that isn't the outrageous. you have no proofm the trump administration making claims that are false? i don't think so. claims that are false? i don't think so. i was at the inauguration. it was considerably. i think all of this stuff is bs. ifi if i look at my photo, i took one of the very last photos, there are no blank spots. that photo was taken an hour—and—a—half before the end.” happen to agree with that. i was live at the inauguration myself. do you know what the good news is? we don't have article 50 in america and we will continue on with our president donald trump who was

elected with 57% of the electoral college. what people are disputing is the fact that he is president. i would like him to succeed, 0k. shut shut up for a second! i would like to see him succeed because unfortunately we're all in the same boat with him, but he's not going to succeed if we get into a crisis where the facts are on his side, but he is so repeatedly lied that we are going to not believe him when we actually need to. no one is disputing his election. that's not theissue disputing his election. that's not the issue here. clearly, you supported. what does that have to do with anything? you said you'd support him in a crisis. let me bring in brad because brad worked... my impression was that the sun was revolving around the earth. we got that point! brad, you worked on

brand trump. is that the right thing to do? is it the right thing to do? there is a lot going on. i think the press continues to try and push doubt and delegitimise who donald trump is and it is important to make sure you hold the press accountable and those pictures and images that we re and those pictures and images that were put up is false. the time sta m ps we re were put up is false. the time stamps were different. he did lose the popular vote, you guys. there is still something to debate about the fa ct still something to debate about the fact that it wasn't like a mandate. he doesn't have a mandate. just saying. as we continue to talk about size, if size matters... for the liberal democrats is the media. if i had enough money to compete against all of them as well, we probably would have won the popular vote. donald trump has been successful for

18 months taking shots at the media. it worked for him. in america the institutions that are least trusted or congress and the media comes in behind congress. they are not respected and not trusted. behind congress. they are not respected and not trusted! behind congress. they are not respected and not trusted. a final word from thomas, the new york times columnist, how are you going to play this through donald trump's presidency? all we can do is what we do and try to report the news accurately without fear or favour. do you it day in and day out and if we make mistakes, which we do, you correct them. that's all you can ask of the press, but that's all you can ask of a president. if people get the feeling that this is a man who just makes stuff up, we will reach a crisis point where that's really going to matter because we're going to do something big and hard and he will need the american people to believe him. and we don't. thank you. thank you very much all of you.

thank you for your time. steve voted for donald trump, brad was working for donald trump, brad was working for president trump on the presidential campaign, on the trump presidential campaign, on the trump presidential campaign, on the trump presidential campaign running the digital side of things. jenna who voted democrat and thomas, from the new york times. a young syrian girl has written an open letter to donald trump. she was tweeting about her life in the besieged part of the city. one of her first tweets says: she's in east aleppo, and it's her last moment to either live or die. she goes on to say, "my dad is injured now. iam crying." in another, she tells her growing number of followers she's happy

because she lost two more teeth. she shared a lot of pictures of other children in aleppo before she was evacuated in december, hoping to return home one day. bana's mother ba na's mother has bana's mother has been criticised. some here is the little girl's letter to mr trump. "dear donald trump, my name is bana alabed and i am a seven years old syrian girl from aleppo. i lived in syria my whole life before i left from besieged east aleppo on december last year. i am part of the syrian children who suffered from the syrian war. but right now, i am having a peace in my new home of turkey. in aleppo, i was in school, but soon it was destroyed because of the bombing. some of my friends died. i'm very sad about them and wish they were with me

because we would play together by right now. i couldn't play in aleppo, it was the city of death. right now in turkey, i can go out and enjoy. i can go to school although i didn't yet. that is why peace is important for everyone including you. however, millions of syrian children are not like me right now and suffering in different parts of syria. they're suffering because of adult people. i know you will be the president of america, so can you please save the children and people of syria? you must do something for the children of syria because they're like your children and deserve peace like you. if you promise me you will do something for the children of syria, i'm already your new friend. i'm looking forward to what you will do for the children of syria." this news just in from the metropolitan police. a man has been

arrested of suspicion of rationally aggravated malicious communications. tom symonds is here. fill us in. well, we understand this is related to the case of gina miller, the named party as the lawyers would call her in the supreme court case relating to brexit and now in is an arrest of a 50—year—old man in knightsbridge, related to as you say the malicious communications. malicious communications made, the met says on 6th november. that's three days after the appeal court judgement in the brexit case, so that's the first lower court that considered this. and we understand also that it is linked to unrelated comments made by the same suspect in august 2016 and also at the same investigation which is a team from something called operation falcon which specialises in tracing people online and talking to social media companies that they in a similar investigation arrest add 55—year—old

man in swindon in early december. now, we know that was connected to complaints made by gina miller. so, clearly, an investigation going on into concerns about what is said about her online. thank you. tom symonds. a north korean diplomat who defected last yearfrom its london embassy has told the bbc he thinks its leader kim jong—un would be prepared to attack los angeles with nuclear weapons, if his survival in power depended on it. the high—ranking defector, thae yong—ho, says the north korean leader doesn't yet have the capability, but is getting closer to an effective nuclear arsenal. he's been speaking to steve evans. i'm sure that my relatives, and my brother and sister's families by now are all sent to either remote closed areas, or prison camps, you know, so that really breaks my heart. if you could imagine your brother

shouting at you, "why did you do this to me? why have you put me in this place?", what would you say to him? oh, that is really, you know, a question which i do not like even to think about, yes, but that's why i'm very much now determined to do everything possible to pull down the north korean regime, to save not only my family members but the whole north korean people from slavery. do you think you'll ever see your brother again? i'm absolutely sure, and this is my dream, to walk back to my home town. if, when kim jong—un

gets the bomb properly, and missiles to deliver, is he capable of pressing that button and destroying los angeles? oh, kimjong—un knows quite well that a nuclear weapon is the only guarantee for his rule, and kimjong—un, i think, will press the button of this dangerous, you know, the weapons, when he thinks that his rule and his dynasty is threatened, you know, to be collapsed. he would destroy los angeles, even though the retaliation would kill him?

yes, yes, because he knew that if he loses the power, then it is his last day, so he may do anything, you know, even to attack los angeles, because, you know, once the people know that in any way you will be killed, you see then you can do anything. that is the human being's normal reaction. how do you think kim jong—un will end his days? is he going to die peacefully in his own bed? no. or how? i'm sure that the kim jong—un regime will one day collapse by the people's uprising.

that was thae yong—ho, a north korean diplomat who defected last yearfrom its london embassy. he said had been persuaded to defect by his younger son who kept asking about the true nature of life inside north korea. so how does the secretive state function? we can talk now tojihyun park, who defected twice from north korea. she's now living here in britain and campaigns for human rights of women in north korea. she's been here watching that interview with us. good morning. you have seen what the diplomat has revealed about north korea. what do you think about what he said? firstly i would like to say to him congratulations. i totally

agreed with him. he said that north korea is not a democratic country. it isa korea is not a democratic country. it is a slavery country. i totally agree with him. he said that he watched south korea's shows and drama and listened to south korea radio. him and the media... is that how you would describe how you felt when you are living there, you were brainwashed? yes. i lived in north

korea. we always learned about the kim families, their histories. we a lwa ys kim families, their histories. we always respected to him. we always showed happiness to them. even when you are experiencing salmon. you witnessed members of your own family dying of starvation, but you had to respect that family? yes, i saw my family die in front of me. ijust hated americans and south korea. they did something to us. we hadn't got any proof. i hated them. you eventually got out. but you ended up been the victim of traffickers and we re been the victim of traffickers and were sold to someone in china. the police caught you and to give back

to north korea. what was that like? many north korean refugees escaped north korea. in the 1990s there was famine in north korea. people only wa nt to famine in north korea. people only want to survive, so they escaped and went to china. but the chinese godman never accepted the refugees. the chinese government abandoned us. —— government. i went to the labour campfor —— government. i went to the labour camp for six months. what is it like working in a labour camp? when i went there for the first time, we had no clothes. are you saying you we re had no clothes. are you saying you were naked, or might they gave used

off to where? yes. they searched our bodies. many people hide money. you are strip—searched? bodies. many people hide money. you are strip-searched? yes. they search everywhere. i was very ashamed. not only once. it happened several times. after i went to the labour camp... we hadn't got anything with us. camp... we hadn't got anything with us. only hands and our bare feet. what work or you do in there? farm work. —— what work were you doing there? also, another problem is

there? also, another problem is there is no toilet in the labour camp. other women worked with me. one woman was three months pregnant. the north korean government wouldn't accept this baby. this man put some sand in his sock and rain to the mountain. and after, she miscarried the baby. so she had to put a heavy bag on and run up and

down the mountain to miscarry the baby? yes. we used to run. not what. thank you so we used to run. not what. thank you so much for giving us and insight. i know you've found some of that very difficult. i really appreciate what you have told us today. thank you. next, plans which force women to prove that a third child has been born as a result of rape, in order to claim tax credits, have been described as "inhumane" and "degrading". and morally repugnant. from april, child tax credit will be limited to a family's first two children — but the government announced an exception to that for women whose third or subsequent child was born

as a result of rape. however, they say the woman will need to provide evidence that they have been raped. earlier this morning, two women who have been raped, one woman who has been raped, spoke earlier. they scoffed at me when i told them. they scoffed at me when i told them. the first police officer i spoke to said it was sex without regrets. if somebody doesn't say this is happening, it will keep happening. i'm ina happening, it will keep happening. i'm in a position which i've got fantastic support. i've had access to private therapy, all the support i could possibly need to make the choice to speak about this. but the point is it is a choice. if i find it too hard, i can stop. if you ask mea it too hard, i can stop. if you ask me a question, i could say no. there is no support for these women. there is no support for these women. there is nothing to say go through this

traumatising experience and we will ensure you have mental health support. none of that at all. they are being forced effectively to choose between possibly child poverty for their children or to go through this drama. we wanted to speak to the department for work and pensions about this, but they turned down our request for an interview, telling us it will be "delivered in the most effective, compassionate way", and that they've "consulted to ensure the right exceptions and safeguards are in place". we can speak now to alison thewliss, the snp mp for glasgow central. she has been campaigning against the so—called rape clause. rebecca hitchen is from rape crisis south london. and richard graham is conservative mp for gloucester and a member of the work and pensions select committee. mrgraham, do you mr graham, do you back this?” mr graham, do you back this? i think the response to the consultation which i've read does allow for a whole series of exceptions to the

changes to child tax credit. the one on people who have been raped is incredibly sensitive, understandably. members of my own family have been raped. so i know this. so you do back it? i back the fa ct this. so you do back it? i back the fact that the government is allowing for rapes proved in court, but in cursive relationships in family relationships as well. the difficulty is where you effectively have a process to recognise where that has happened and it has less to the birth of a third or subsequent child. what the government is trying to do is try to find a way of doing this as sensitively as possible through health care professionals, social workers or specialist charities. and if there are other groups that others think could play an important part in this, i think the government is still open to listening. you must be talking about saving pennies, really? it's about really trying to be fair to everyone, to those who are not going

to get tax credits if they have more than two children in the future and to those paying for the system as well. so it doesn'tjust become an easy option to say, i didn't want to have this child but my partner forced me to. it'sjust have this child but my partner forced me to. it's just simply a way of finding the most sensitive way of recognising it. an easy option? what is the easy option? tell me what you think the easy option is?” is the easy option? tell me what you think the easy option is? i think thatis think the easy option is? i think that is the best way for dhekelia. otherwise you have a system where anybody might say that i was raped. do you really believe someone would say that? i don't think it is about questioning people's will to do that. it is aboutjust saying we have got to have a sensitive system thatis have got to have a sensitive system that is fair. allyson felix, is this a sensitive —— sensible system?m is not sensible or fair. it is

traumatising women who have already gone through considerable trauma in the first place. they will not be cross—examined, they will not be assessed, they will simply have to bring a letter from a social worker, gp or police officer? there will still have to tell that person in the first place. say you don't have a social worker, and you feel that to do that would put you at risk, you will not tell a social worker that your husband is raping you. rebecca hitchen, what is your concern? i have many concerns. one of them has just concern? i have many concerns. one of them hasjust been echoed. the idea that women lie about rape. that is not the case. and the reality for women of what this will mean is going to be incredibly difficult. there will be a high risk of them being traumatised again. you mentioned there will not be any assessment. from my reading their wildie. it will be that doctors or social workers have two assessed the circumstances of the woman to determine whether they believe it is commensurate with someone who has been raped. we have heard today

about personal judgments and been raped. we have heard today about personaljudgments and failure of agencies that occurred time and time again. that is likely to occur in these scenarios as well. what are you going to do about this? the government as its —— it will, going to force in april. i hope there will be an opportunity to challenge it in parliament then. the government has not done enough to speak to civil service unions. to dwp staff who have to implement this, they still don't know what they are expected to don't know what they are expected to do as well, which is worrying if you're dealing with someone sensitive circumstances. we have had a number of comments from our viewers. this is appalling. i'm embarrassed by this country. whoever came up with this insensitive ruling should be fired. i think that's slightly wrong. what the government has done is respond to people who

wrote into the government's on consultation asking for ideas as to how best to implement this, recognising that it was such a sensitive area, and taking it beyond statutory rape and criminal cases, and recognising there are situations where coerces or controlling behaviour in an intimate relationship could lead to this sort of situation. i think the select committee will look at this and decided we want to take further evidence and look again the issue. i think it is a more sensitive response than people are giving it credit for. the government are not listening. they have ignored the concerns of women organisations. thank you. thanks for coming on the programme. we are back tomorrow. had a good day. —— have a good day. good morning. it is cold and frosty across the south—eastern quarter of the uk. on top of that we have got

some fog lingering into the morning. really quite dense in places. do bear that in really quite dense in places. do bearthat in mind. really quite dense in places. do bear that in mind. that will slowly lifted his low cloud. there may be a spot of rain. then we have some suntan from the south—west of england through wales. in scotland and northern ireland, a fair bit of cloud. some rain this afternoon. it will be quite mild. quite cold underneath the cloud in the south—east. there will be a lot of cloud streaming north tonight. the odd pocket of rain. maybe even few fla kes odd pocket of rain. maybe even few flakes of snow. it will be another cold one, particularly across and wales. this is bbc news. the top stories developing at 11am: president trump promises a "big day" on national security, saying, "we will build the wall" along the border with mexico. cross—party mps put pressure on theresa may to publish a paper

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