hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. let's look through some of the main stories here in the bbc newsroom. the lead story comes from america. barack obama has said he's heartened by protests around the us — and expressed his objections monday to any faith—based discrimination. that won't deter mr trump. who says this is a ban against people who threaten the us. and that he's happy with the way the travel ban is progressing. the un refugee agency tells us that thousands of refugees will be affected by the 120 day ban put in place by the trump administration. we will have a report from a un base in beirut. and we will still taking your questions — #bbcos is where to send them. we will keep them coming on the

screen as we we will keep them coming on the screen as we progress. in what's starting to feel like a routine — as we have done for the last week at this time — let's go live to the state department in washington. we are going to talk about something that a group of colleagues have put together, it is a draft dissent memo. we will come back to that phrase. it is an opposition to president donald trump's executive order on refugees. this is a draft online. it points out among other things that — "despite the executive order's focus on them, a vanishingly small number of terror attacks on us soil have been committed by foreign nationals who recently entered the united states on an immigrant

or non—immigrant visa." barbara plett, state department. explained the format this memo is taking. this is something called a descent cable and it is part of a well—established channel for disagreement within the state department called the dissent channel. if an employee or a foreign office service officer disagrees he can register a complaint or his or her opinion through this avenue with top officials at the state department including the secretary of state and that is what the format of state and that is what the format of this memo is. they are not that unusual but what would be unusual about this is the number of people who have signed. we are told that hundreds of people have added their signature to this memo so that is true that would be unprecedented and the content is, as you suggested, criticising the immigration order of mrtrump, saying it criticising the immigration order of mr trump, saying it would not achieve its aims of making america safe, that it would in fact be counter—productive, but it would increase anti—american as in, that it sour relations with the muslim

majority nations that have been singled out in many parts of the muslim world. it goes beyond that, raises the moral point. they say, this band stands in opposition to the core american constitutional ban values that we as federal employees took an oath to uphold. they go on took an oath to uphold. they go on to say they need to protect equality and work against discrimination on the basis of race and national identity. it is a very strong memo and if it is true that so many people have been willing to sign it it isa people have been willing to sign it it is a feeling widely felt at the state department. stay with us, barbara. the white house press secretary, sean spicer, was asked about this memo. here's his response. i think ithink any i think any government official or anyone who doesn't understand the president's goal in this and what this actually was. this has been blown way out of proportion and exaggerated. in the 24—hour period 325,000 people from other countries

flew in through our airports, and we are talking about 109 people from seven countries the obama administration identified and these bureaucrats have a problem with it? they should either get through the —— get with a programme or they should go. this is about the safety of america and the reason the majority of americans agree with the president is they understand that it is number one priority. that was sean spicer. it doesn't look like he's losing much sleep over this memo. what is interesting is his reaction saying that if they don't want to get with the programme then they can go. late in the press conference he said if they don't agree with the agenda, which he described as the safety of america, they should not be in those posts which is a different approach than other administrations have ta ken different approach than other administrations have taken to this kind of protest. this dissent cable supposed to allow state department officials to criticise policy without fear of reprisals. they may

now be worried about theirjobs and may rethink whether they should state these things publicly. it's quite an unusual kind of response to this form of diplomatic document. just one more thing, a question that has come in from a viewer on the bbc news channel in the uk, a question about the state department. is that what has indicated how it will approach japan and other asian allies?. we approach japan and other asian allies? . we have approach japan and other asian allies?. we have any guidance on that? we don't have much guidance from the state department yet because the secretary of state has not been confirmed. your question is right, the white house has been dealing with that and most of that we got during statements that mr trump made before he was elected in which he suggested that japan and south korea, though stew strong allies of the united states were not paying enough for the defence and he would reconsider the arrangements the us has with them. having said that the head of the defence department, is going on his first

foreign trip shortly and going to go to japan foreign trip shortly and going to go tojapan and foreign trip shortly and going to go to japan and south korea that the us stands by them firmly. he has a strong firm, traditional us view of these alliances and mr trump has said several times he defers to general madness on various issues so it's possible they might be setting policy in this area, or driving policy in this area, or driving policy in this area, or driving policy in this area rather than mr trump's statements so far. —— generaljames mattis. trump's statements so far. —— general james mattislj trump's statements so far. —— generaljames mattis. i suspect we might be speaking again at the same time tomorrow. now, let me show you the seven countries that have been affected by the travel restrictions announced by donald trump. libya, sudan, somalia, yemen, iran, iraq and syria. next on outside source we will get some reaction from some of these places, for instance the iranian foreign minister says the muslim ban will be recorded in history as a great gift to

extremists and to their supporters. ican extremists and to their supporters. i can also show you this, it's any chris langridge iraqi news website saying the global backlash grows against trump's immigration order. i turned to bbc persian and another regular on outside source for more reaction. this decision has created a lot of controversies and created a lack of clarity from people. we have seen pictures of people coming back from the united states after being deported. one interesting point is the reaction of the christians in the reaction of the christians in the region and they were asking president trump to come and help them stay in their country instead of welcoming them as refugees. we have seen so of welcoming them as refugees. we have seen so many of welcoming them as refugees. we have seen so many articles in newspapers written by priests as

well in the region, syrian priests and lebanese priests, saying we don't want this decision and this will cause a lot of harm for us because it will push many people, many muslim people from the centre to the extreme, or put them in a very difficult situation unable to a nswer very difficult situation unable to answer questions. it was a big outrage in the region regarding this decision, especially that a few months ago it was a completely different direction. the us administration was criticising saudi arabia and some other gulf countries and now they have shifted in a totally different direction. today the iraqi parliament was discussing and debating this and they issued a bill asking for reciprocity. but this was not on social media, because what are you going to do with the us soldiers fighting and supporting you as a government? are you going to ask them to leave?

there is a lot of questions and lack of clarity regarding this decision in the region. what about iran? the official reaction, the statement from the foreign ministry today and also the vice president, said the travel ban is immoral and contrary to human rights and the biggest reaction came yesterday from the president himself who said it is not time to build walls. if you look at state—run time to build walls. if you look at state— run tv you time to build walls. if you look at state—run tv you would not get a sense of national outrage but if you look at the press and social media iranians are up in arms over this. iranians are up in arms over this. iran hasa iranians are up in arms over this. iran has a lot of interests in syria, iraq is busy directly affected by the islamic state group. is the last few days change how this coalition of countries takes on is? i don't think it has changed so far because the iranians haven't officially reacted to president trump's victory to begin with. the iranian supreme leader has not said anything. even though they are upset about the travel ban and it shows

some animosity on the part of the us government they are still cautious and maybe optimistic that unpredictably president trump might make a positive gesture to iran so they are holding their cards and hoping for the best. they are holding their cards and hoping forthe best. in they are holding their cards and hoping for the best. in their calculus this travel ban has not changed the overall prospects of what can be possible with iran and the us in terms of fighting isis in syria. these countries are still in the reaction mood. they can't believe that this is going to stay in the coming weeks because it doesn't work. iraq is supporting the government fighting islamic state and america is fighting islamic state command the same in syria as well so there are lots of complications in the region that could be affected by such a decision. the government and the people are still in denial, believing this is something that is going to change. the

unpredictability of trump means they hope he might flash a card that might change the whole equation. just before i let you go, is this a big story? if i turned on the iranian or iraqi national news, is it right at the top? not a national news but in social media that is the only thing you'll find. everywhere, it is there, debates and discussion and stories about people who were deported from the us, or banned from boarding on us flights. thank you to both of them. they were talking about iraq and iran primarily. in a few minutes on outside source we will turn to the situation in beirut and how the temporary ban affects some refugees who live there. more news now from the uk. two former bankers from halifax bank of scotland — or hbos — have been found guilty of bribery and fraud along with four associates. during the trial southwark crown court we heard how one of the former bankers — lynden scourfield —

was bribed with cash and luxuries. as our business correspondent andy verity reports several small businesses were driven to the wall as a result of this massive fraud. chauffeur—driven bentleys at no charge. ferraris, trips to vegas and brown envelopes stuffed with cash — gratis. just a few of the perks of being a corrupt bank manager at hbos or one of those bribing him and all paid for by the bank and its business customers. this businessman, michael bancroft, worked with a firm that promised to help turn businesses around. together with a man who ran the consultancy david mills, seen here in the centre, was bribing bank manager lyndon scourfield on the right with cash, holidays and prostitutes. in exchange for the bribes scourfield would insist the bank's business customers used david mills‘s firm, quayside corporate services. david mills and his

associates use them for their own purposes to enrich themselves, including charging exorbitant consultancy fees to these companies, to these distressed companies, financially distressed companies, which they were expected to pay and basically run the companies down into the ground. at southwark crown court today david mills, michael ba ncroft court today david mills, michael bancroft and three others were found guilty ten years after committing these crimes. the most extraordinary thing about the fraud was it was discovered not by the bank or the police but by a middle—aged couple fighting to keep their home. as business customers of the bank they told everything they had found out, but the bank's response was to try repeatedly to evict them. instead of protecting and supporting the victims of this scam they would persecute them. they would blame the customers and that is what they have done for ten years and they have stuck to this story. i realised the most shocking thing for me of being in court is i realised we have been through ten years of hell and so have lots of other victims. hbos is now owned by lloyds banking group which said today it

acknowledged the fraud impacted people beyond the bank, but a decade on from the crimes the bank still hasn't acknowledged any corporate responsibility for what happened, or offered to compensate the victims. andy verity, bbc news. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. donald trump has been defending his immigration ban, as criticism continues from around the world. not long ago, and many of you have sent me messages during the programme, i got this from jeffrey watching on the bbc news channel saying, nothing on steve bannon, meaning why are you not talking about steve bannon? and we are going to do that now. steve bannon is donald trump's chief strategist and

has been appointed to the us national council. this is very significant. the move expands mr bannon's influence and ability to shape us defence policy. the move has caused a lot of controversy. bernie sanders tweeted. @sensanders. "we need experienced people who will protect our country on the nsc, not an extreme right—wing political operative." white house press secretary sean spicer defended the appointment. he said bannon was "a former naval officer. he's got a tremendous understanding of the world and the geopolitical landscape that we have now." let's talk to the bbc‘s laura trevelya n let's talk to the bbc‘s laura trevelyan who is live from washington, dc. hi, first of all explain the nsc and what it does and how much influence steve bannon will be able to exert over it? the national security council is the key advisory body for the president of

the united states on what it sounds like, security in america's place in the world. it's a hugely important body. the reason there has been such an outcry about steve bannon being on it, and he's been appointed to something called the principals committee of the nsc, so he has been elevated to a big role. one of the things that caused a stink was this memo president trump wrote said the director of national intelligence and the joint chiefs director of national intelligence and thejoint chiefs of staff no longer needed to only when things pertain to their responsibilities, which is weird, intelligence and military, why would you elevate a chief strategist and then save the quys chief strategist and then save the guysin chief strategist and then save the guys in charge of intelligence and the military only need to come when there are things pertaining to the issues? a former obama national security adviser called a stone cold crazy. i think it is a lot to do with steve bannon's role as a lightning rod, people who don't like donald trump because of his

background, at breitba rt donald trump because of his background, at breitbart news, see steve bannon as wielding too much influence, they see him as being the squeeze behind donald trump, like a bogeyman for the left. but the president trusts and thinks his advice is excellent and he is a former naval officer and he wants him in this absolutely key role. it has been extremely divisive but it shows you this is how president trump will role. he likes a few people close to him like his son—in—law people close to him like his son—in—lanared kushner people close to him like his son—in—law jared kushner and if people close to him like his son—in—lanared kushner and if he wa nts son—in—lanared kushner and if he wants steve bannon on the national security council he will have him now. i want to be clear on how he is described, bernie sanders called him an extreme right—wing operative and he is quite often called a white nationalist or a sympathiser of white nationalism. what is a reasonable way of describing his politics, do you think?” reasonable way of describing his politics, do you think? i don't think that would be a reasonable way of describing it but he has said that breitbart was the home of the ultra—right, the alternative right, which is certainly a radical right

—— the halt right. people have espoused anti—semitic views and racist views within that. —— alt right. steve bannon has not spoken on the record at all in a way that would espouse those views. his website, breitbart, is extremely provocative and sometimes linked to things which are extremely provocative but he himself worked at goldman sachs, he was a naval officer, he was a producer, and then he came under donald trump's campaign and helped transform it. he is someone who believes there is a global populist uprising against elites, whether it is on wall street, or whether it is in corporate america, and he helped to ride democrat donald trump's inauguration speech in which he talked about the forgotten people and he is the authentic voice of donald trump and that is why donald trump wants him in this important position. i have a question from amanda watching on the bbc news channel and quite a few people are

wondering this. at which point does the rest of the us government get to join in deciding policy, or can mr trumpjust join in deciding policy, or can mr trump just signed unlimited executive orders? well, not unlimited. the president has in some ways limited discussion on what he can sign executive orders on but the areas where he can donald trump is absolutely going for it. of course, those who are critical to say this is hypocrisy and why are the republicans not saying anything? they criticised barack obama and said he was the imperial president because he used executive orders to bypass congress which was deadlocked but trump could go through them because they are not deadlocked, senate and congress. the crucial thing about the executive order has not been about whether it is right or wrong but the way it is done. why didn't you go through congress and discussed this with us? why is their confusion about whether or not green ca rd confusion about whether or not green card holders are involved? why were people allowed to get on planes when they would be turned back? all of

that kind of thing. even within republican ranks there is a little bit of concern about the imperial nature of the presidency, although not much of it yet is coming to the surface. one last one for you, another viewer watching on bbc world news says what happens to the people from the seven countries once the 120 day period from stomach for this ban expires? it happens whether it is renewed —— depends whether it is renewed, whether they have got the vetting procedures in place and whether at the end of that there is a decision that it needs to be extended. unfortunately at the moment we don't have a good answer to that question. the white house suggested that the number of countries could be extended beyond the seven. we could see maybe a0 countries included in it. at this point in time we don't know much beyond the actual order it self. thank you, laura trevelyan, live

from world news america studio in washington, dc. donald trump's executive order has effectively blocked the admission of syrian refugees coming into the us foran syrian refugees coming into the us for an indefinite period. the un's refugee agency is unsurprisingly not denied with the plan and says an estimated 20,000 refugees in precarious circumstances would have been resettled to the us during the 120 days covered by the suspension. i should add president trump addressed these critics as saying i have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in syria. i will find ways to help all those who are suffering. the report i want to play you is from alex forsyth who went to aun you is from alex forsyth who went to a un reception centre in beirut. baby crying. a desperate sound but all too familiar at the un's refugee reception in beirut. this is where hundreds of thousands of those who've fled syria come for aid and advice. this morning, along with the usual queues and quiet resignation, there was added frustration now

syrian refugees have been banned from the us. for two years, yasser mohamad has wanted to find a new country in which he can settle but said today, even if given the chance, he'd never go to america. translation: i don't want to go to a racist country that discriminates against arabs and muslims. for others, it's another hope fading, like wahida ismail, desperate to leave lebanon and get medical help for her child, who has cancer. as a syrian, "i just wanted to be treated like any other human being," she told me, "welcomed in a country that keeps my rights and protects my children." only a fraction of syrian refugees would have been eligible for resettlement in the united states — those deemed to be the most vulnerable. yet still here, news of president trump's executive order has increased the sense of hopelessness. many feel another door is now closed to them. elsewhere, there's anger as cases emerge of legitimate residents being stopped from returning

to america, like ali diwan. from iraq, he has lived near la for three years but he's stuck in jordan after leaving the us for work. yesterday he missed his six—year—old daughter's birthday. translation: today i went to buy a new ticket, but companies advised me not to travel. travellers are still trapped in airports since yesterday. as the confusion's played out across the middle east, the scale of those affected is still unclear. world—renowned clarinet player kinan azmeh is in lebanon for a concert. born in syria, living in new york, one of many unsure if he'll be able to return. i haven't been able to go back to damascus for a few years, and now this other home, and all my friends and family, also in the us, now that's also been blocked. the consequences of america's immigration changes are echoing

around the region, in many places leaving behind questions and growing discord. alex forsyth, bbc news, beirut. even though we have spent an hour on this i'm still not managing to answer all of the questions you have sent. as soon as of the questions you have sent. as soon as i am off the outside source set i will go straight back to twitter and try and help with the queries you have got, and of course we will be back at the same time tomorrow and have more chance to speak to anthony, laura and barbara and all of our regular contributors from the us as we try and analyse the trump presidency. plenty more to come. thank you for watching and i will see you tomorrow. bye bye. hello. january will probably turn

out to be a dry month and across the south—east colder than average too. we are seeing a change in the weather type through the rest of this week and beyond, strengthening winds, this time from the atlantic, will bring some rain at times but also bring with it some milder air too. often with the mild air we have at this time of the year a lot of cloud. that was the case on monday. this picture taken also of cloudy skies across rather in yorkshire. we still have a lot of cloud around at the moment and during tuesday some further rain or drizzle. pushing eastwards slowly across the uk the heavy rain moving away from northern ireland where we should get some sunshine in the afternoon, but pushing across the north of england and into scotland as well. some gusty winds and a chilly wind for eastern scotland around some easternmost parts of england. away from here we have the milder air,

temperatures not rising during the day much, 11 or 12 degrees. february sta rts day much, 11 or 12 degrees. february starts with cloud and further rain. most of it heading into the north sea but some will linger across eastern parts of england and we may get another spell of rain in the south—west later. brighter and drier for a while after a chilly start in scotland, temperatures across the uk 8-11d. scotland, temperatures across the uk 8—11d. low—pressure heading up from the southwest moving northwards during thursday, there is the first one had another one in the wings on friday, a bit of uncertainty about the timing and depths of these areas of low pressure and hence the strength of the wind but they will be some strong winds on thursday and most of the rain on thursday across western parts of the uk, maybe something brighter with sunshine perhaps in the south—east of east anglia. that rain heads up across northernmost parts of scotland with stronger winds too and then the

winds will strengthen in the south—west and we could see some more persistent and heavy rain heading into wales and the south—west of england. again, an area of low—pressure. that pulls away, again, uncertainty about how windy it's going to get and then the next area of low pressure follows in them again coming in from the south—west. saturday will see some more rain from heading northwards to the north—east of scotland where it could be rather wet. brighter elsewhere and perhaps some sunshine, decent temperatures for the time of year. notice another area of rain pushing northwards across england and wales overnight up into scotland and wales overnight up into scotland and northern ireland on sunday. and then a gap where we see sunshine and some showers perhaps. what is happening towards the end of the week and into the weekend? for the change would need to look at the jets scream, high—level winds, and a strongerjet is propagating all the way from eastern parts of canada across the atlantic and then weakening and heading northwards over the uk. the jet weakening and heading northwards over the uk. thejet stream picks up areas of low pressure and this is

the general track that will continue into the early part of next week. again uncertainty about the timings but more certainty, if you like, about the theme that it is going to be much more unsettled but everything is coming up from the south—west so we can expect a lot of cloud to continue and they will be some spells of rain too. if these areas of low pressure get deep enough and in the right part of the jet stream we may well get some crashing waves across southern and western parts of the uk where we are more likely to have the strongest of the winds. tonight at ten — donald trump's state visit to britain will go ahead, despite mounting opposition. the government says the visit will take place sometime this year, despite an online petition, now signed by 1.5 million people. i have issued that invitation, formally issued that invitation for a state visit for president trump here to the united kingdom, and that invitation stands. in towns and cities across britain tonight, thousands oppose the president's travel ban

on refugees and immigrants from some muslim countries. if refugees are sent home, they will literally die. and that donald trump is making life worse for refugees, not better, is unforgivable. in washington, the president claims the ban has not affected many people but some of america's biggest companies have condemned the policy. and some of those firms — including microsoft and amazon — are supporting legal action against the travel ban.