tv BBC News at Five BBC News February 2, 2017 5:00pm-6:01pm GMT
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today at five, the archbishop of canterbury says he was not aware of allegations of physical abuse at a christian summer camp in the 19705 and 1980s. justin welby, who worked briefly at the same camp, admitted today the church had let victims down very badly. the allegations involve a barrister called john smyth, he's denied any knowledge of the claims, but his daughter has now spoken to the bbc. if these allegations are true, i do think he will have to face justice and that will be painful for eve ryo ne and that will be painful for everyone involved. we'll have more from mr smyth's daughter, we'll be reporting on the background to the allegations, and asking why previous warnings were not investigated. the other main stories on bbc news at 5: a deal is reached to end part of the dispute, which has caused misery for passengers on southern rail. an independent and truly global united kingdom, that's the government's vision of the future outside the eu, labour says the plan amounts to nothing. the bank of england predicts stronger growth for the economy over the next three years,
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but it comes with a warning on inflation. a human rights lawyer is struck off, for acting dishonestly in bringing abuse claims against british soldiers in iraq. and the midfielder who became chelsea's record goal scorer, frank lampard retires from football. it's 5 o'clock. our main story is the denial, by the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby, that he was aware of any allegations of physical abuse, made against a barrister who worked at a christian summer camp for boys in the 19705 and 1980s. bbc news has spoken today to the barrister‘s daughter, who says her father must face justice if the claims are borne out.
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john smyth, who's now in his 70s and lives in south africa, has denied any knowledge of the allegations. the church of england has admitted it ‘failed terribly‘ by not reporting the allegations to the police sooner than it did. we'll be hearing from john smyth's daughter in a few moments, but first our home affairs correspondent, tom symonds, has more details. the accusation is that a barrister and leader of the christian camps, john smyth, groomed boys and beat them severely, giving the explanation it would purge them of their sins. some were schoolboys at winchester college, they describe being so severely injured it was difficult to sit down. the college says it knew nothing about what was going on. another young future church leader also worked at the camps. he knewjohn smyth. but the archbishop of canterbury justin welby insisted today he knew nothing about the beatings. i was 19, 20 years old, i was a junior leader in a camp, these were the senior leaders,
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i was not part of the inner circle. it is alleged the abuse started in 1978 when public school boys and students were invited to the summer camps. in 1982, it is claimed john smyth was advised to move abroad. the beatings had come to light. 0ne alleged victim had tried to kill himself. the archbishop was made aware in 2013 and the church has now made a full apology. there are so many places where our society thought it was ok to cover up the most terrible treatment of children and vulnerable adults. and i do not know how many more cases there will be, but on each one, nothing will be covered up. have you ever seen any evidence in your religious life of beating going on? no, never. last year an anglican bishop, peter ball, became the first to be jailed for child sexual abuse. again, the church had to apologise. there is a pattern here,
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the allegation of children harmed by respected church figures, the claims of a cover—up, the belated attempts by lambeth palace to work out what has gone wrong. it is a pattern being investigated by the public inquiry into child abuse. this case may provide more evidence. tom symonds, bbc news, at lambeth palace. with me is our correspondent, fiona lamdin, who spoke to john smyth's daughter earlier today. you have been working on this for many weeks. what happened when you had this conversation today? what did she say about your childhood? she is one of four siblings. the family were moved to zimbabwe in 1984 after winchester stopped him being involved with the young men. she painted a picture of her childhood growing up there. there we re childhood growing up there. there were often boys at our house,
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teenage boys, obviously dad's work was always with teenage boys. he was busy doing christian camps in the holidays and during term time boys we re holidays and during term time boys were in and out of the house. there would be social events, swimming pool and parties, that kind of thing. that was a normal part of my childhood, having boys coming and going. at the same time it was made clear to me that i was not to be pa rt of clear to me that i was not to be part of that. it was a thing for dad and he was hosting it with his boys and he was hosting it with his boys andl and he was hosting it with his boys and i was not allowed to be in the garden orjoining in with the parties. i wasn't directly part of any of it, i was a spectator. a sense there of that time as she recalls. did she say anything about contact with her father and recalls. did she say anything about contact with herfather and has recalls. did she say anything about contact with her father and has she said anything about the kind of allegations that are being made? said anything about the kind of allegations that are being madam is important to say that she was not abused, but it is a huge shock and she has talked about what she would
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like to happen from here on. she loves her father but she does think there should be some sort of justice. i will always love my father, however, if these allegations are true, i do think he will have to face justice and that will have to face justice and that will be painful for everyone involved, but i believe strongly in justice and i would want bad for someone justice and i would want bad for someone who had done that to my child where my brother or my friend. interesting there to hear the way that she said that. i should explain to viewers that these allegations have not come from nowhere and there have not come from nowhere and there have been significant signals or hints in the past. you have some of them here. the church knew about it from the report compiled and in the 805, the headmaster at the time, john asoro, wrote a book called the road to winchester. he said there was road to winchester. he said there wa5 neighbouring barrister, a happily married family man who took an interest in the group. many went
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to his house for sunday lunch. he 5ay5 to his house for sunday lunch. he say5 then the storm broke. i was told the extraordinary new5 say5 then the storm broke. i was told the extraordinary news that the neighbouring barri5ter at king gained 5uch neighbouring barri5ter at king gained such control over the senior boysin gained such control over the senior boys in the group and kept it after they left the school. he was on to say he must be banished. quietly and efficiently he was. it is there and has been there for decades. what have you gleaned from some of the staff you have spoken to? i am just wondering what is at the college saying today about the reason police were not involved when these allegations were being made? back then, the decision with pa rents made? back then, the decision with parents and boys, with the school and church was that they would not go to the police, we will keep this,
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for the sake of the boys who had been hurt, we will keep this quiet. everyone agreed that is what they wa nted everyone agreed that is what they wanted to do. the school today, winchester college, said they have never tried to cover it up, but we have tried to keep it quiet for the sake of those who were hurt. where do you think this might develop now? what made the next step be? hampshire police said they are starting an investigation. so, we will see where that goes. thank you very much indeed. a deal to end part of the dispute which has caused misery for passengers on southern rail has been reached. the company has been holding lengthy talks with the aslef union in an attempt to resolve a disagreement about the role of guards. the rmt union is still involved in a dispute with southern. frankie mccamley has the latest details. afamiliar
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a familiar sight for southern rail passengers who have suffered months of disruption in what has been the longest running industrial dispute since privatisation. today this finally good news. a breakthrough. we recognise that this long—running dispute has been extraordinarily difficult for everyone, including four passengers and for staff involved. we are glad that the parties have negotiated an agreement, but not only provides a sound base on which to resolve their dispute, but also to restore good industrial relations for the future. it is not clear what the details of the agreement are, they will be subject to a referendum of members of the union for train drivers. we would hope it sends a message to everyone, would hope it sends a message to eve ryo ne , every would hope it sends a message to everyone, every stakeholder, about what we are willing to do, how we will engage. we want to engage productively and proactively. if
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people treated badly, we will react. the strikes over driver only trains, which unions said were unsafe, caused severe disruption in december. further walk—outs in january were halted as unions and train companies began fresh talks. however, the rmt union is still in dispute with southern rail over changes to the role of conductors. its general secretary, nick cash, released a statement saying we have no information on what the this will have on nearly 500 cards. that is an appalling way for workers to treated. workers and merseyrail will also be balloted for industrial action. the transport secretary has welcomed this latest agreement in the hope that one of the busiest railway lines in the uk will soon resume its normal service. the government has published its white paper, a document setting out its goals, as it negotiates britain's exit from the european union. the brexit secretary, david davis, told mp5 it was all about a ‘bold
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and ambititous free trade agreement‘. but labour was unimpressed, sir keir starmer said the white paper contained ‘nothing' and failed to guarantee mp5 a ‘meaningful‘ vote on the final deal. 0ur political correspondent, eleanor garnier, reports. we're on our way out, that much is clear, but what will life outside the eu look like? the prime minister's long—asked—for plan, finally presented to parliament. secretary david davis. the brexit secretary outlined the details of the white paper. it confirms the prime minister's vision of an independent, truly global uk and an ambitious future relationship with the eu. controlling our own laws and ensuring a smooth, orderly brexit was just part of a series of priorities for the government. these 12 objectives amount to one goal, a new, positive and constructive partnership between britain and the eu that works in our mutual interest. in front of ministers
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and diplomats last month, the prime minister spelt out her plan, a clue to the contents of her white paper. what i am proposing cannot mean membership of the single market. so, out of the special club that allows free movement of goods, services, capital and people, instead into a new trade deal aiming for access without barriers or tariffs and crucially, getting control of migration. mp5 hope all of this detail means they can properly scrutinise the government's plans, especially as, after last night's vote, it seems we are past the point of no return. it was an historic moment. the ayes have it. but with dozens of labour mp5 voting against, the opposition is in disarray once again. several sacrificed their front bench jobs rather than obey jeremy corbyn's orders to vote for the bill. not diane abbott, though.
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the shadow home secretary, close ally of mr corbyn, and staunch remain campaigner, well enough to debate just three hours before the vote, then struck by illness that apparently kept her away from the commons. is brexit splitting labour? goodbye. what now for the party leaderfacing his fourth reshuffle in 18 months? is the labour party facing another crisis, mr corbyn? even the party's most faithful admit brexit is more than a headache. it's an enormous issue in terms of its importance to the country and that will be reflected in all the debates in parliament. there are differences of view in our party, and clearly they were manifest yesterday, but there are deep divisions within the conservative party too. divisions aside, the prime minister has drawn up her plans. now she has to persuade a continent that what she wants is possible. eleanor garnier, bbc news, westminster. 0ur political correspondent,
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iain watson, is in westminster. was there anything in this document but took you by surprise? a little bit. but extensively. this is the document, 77 pages of it. the government said it would be substantial, but it is like the speech the premise to give before. there are a few areas people have been concentrating on, especially section five on immigration. it says in the document that new immigration arrangements for the eu would be complex and some of the newspapers that backed the campaign are asking does that mean we will still have high levels of eu immigration after we leave the european union, probably in 2019. it also suggests that there will be consultation on the impact of immigration on different parts of the country. questions are being asked, could that lead us to regional quotas,
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because some parts of the uk, scotla nd because some parts of the uk, scotland in particular, want more immigration, others wanted more tightly controlled. there are also questions about how long this implementation period will take for immigration changes first up we have no guidance on that, but downing street said it would not necessarily mean there would be an extended period, and extended transition period, and extended transition period either. the government was clear on its commitment to get immigration done. 0ne clear on its commitment to get immigration done. one issue where there is more clarity than the prime minister suggested, the language points to britain being outside of the customs union entirely, a lot of emphasis on having a new arrangement with eu partners. when we look at the political fallout over the last couple of days, is it fair to say, as some people have suggested, that people have been focusing on labour divisions more than other divisions, then clearly there are conservative mp5 who voted in a certain way who are also unhappy with this
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direction? labour put the divisions ina new direction? labour put the divisions in a new light. partly because of this imposition of a three line whip, the compulsion for mp5 to vote in favour of brexit, even if they might argue over the details. that meant 47 labour mp5 rebelled, only one conservative mp, ken clarke, did that. we will see more division when we get into the detail. in the white paper, there is no commitment, unilaterally, to give eu citizens the right to stay on. some conservative mp5 are concerned about that. there is also the issue about what is or is not a meaningful vote? the white paper is not clear about this. downing street said there will bea this. downing street said there will be a vote in parliament on the final day when the government has negotiated with the eu. labour are pressing to give mp5 time to see that the at the same time as the european parliament and influence the deal. there are conservative mp5
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who are very sympathetic to that approach and he might put their rebellion on hold until later on in the process. we will seek more divisions on the government side becoming apparent in due course. for the time being, the debate is on triggering article 50, getting the process underway and on that the conservatives are almost entirely united and labour are split. the bank of england has made another significant adjustment in its growth forecast for this year, it says the economy is expected to grow 2% in 2017, up from a november forecast of 1.4%, despite last year's fears of a sharp slowdown after the eu referendum. interest rates have also been kept on hold at 0.25%. but there was a warning from the governor of the bank of england mark carney that productivity and wages could still be lower because of the referendum result. this stronger projection does not mean that the referendum is without
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consequence. uncertainty over future arrangement is weighing on business investment which has been flat since the end of 2015. business investment is expected to be around a quarter lower in three years than projected prior to the referendum with material consequences for productivity, for wages and for incomes. with me is our personal finance correspondent, simon gompertz. 0n growth, what should we read into that? good news, it is expected the economy, our national output, will grow by 2% this year and that is higher than the bike was saying before. the question is whether the reputation of the bank, these forecasts are carefully followed, whether it has been slightly tarnished by all of this. going back to august, just after the brexit photo, amidst a lot of uncertainty about our prospects, the bank came up about our prospects, the bank came up with a forecast for this year of 0.8% growth, then in november, as
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you said, it went up to 1.4% and now they have said we are into 2017 and it is 296. they have said we are into 2017 and it is 2%. forecasts are usually wrong, not exactly right. they are supposed to give us an idea of the trend, but the difference here is seen by economists as huge. the governor of the bank of england, mark carney, came up with some explanations. 0ne mark carney, came up with some explanations. one was that british shoppers have carried on spending and that has buoyed up the economy. the other is that in the autumn last year the chancellor slightly loosened the squeeze on government spending, but makes more money available. the world economy, other countries, have been doing better. despite that, the bank is wrong and thatis despite that, the bank is wrong and that is embarrassing. inflation, the governor had something to say about that today. what was that? they haven't altered their inflation forecast very much. they are expecting that in the first part of next year it will peak at about
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2.8%. it doesn't sound a large figure but not long ago inflation was virtually zero and this is the result of the pound dropping as a direct result of the referendum by as much as 20%. less than that now. it has affected the price of imports. we have seen white goods, fridges and cookers gone up by 10% or more and food in the shops. that is effecting families and it is shown up in our inflation rate, which over the next two or three yea rs, which over the next two or three years, will be a lot higher. it is a worry for the bank forecast, it is a worry for the bank forecast, it is a worry for the bank forecast, it is a worry for house owners. if wages don't keep rising at that rate, it means we are all getting poorer. the lesson we need to take from these forecasts is to treat them with more caution, especially at a time when it is difficult to read what is happening to the economy. interest rates being held where they are, will that persist if inflation does start to climb points? interest
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rates will go up eventually. at a quarter of a percent they cannot go lower. with inflation rising, people are thinking when will interest rates go up because banks raise interest rates to combat inflation. no one is expecting much in the next few months. it might not be a few yea rs. few months. it might not be a few years. the pound dropped in value today as a result of these good growth figures, the recent being the markets were getting the signal that they should not expect a rise in interest rates and a time soon. just as simon was external factors, we are being told that the scottish government bill has passed its first vote at holyrood. the snp administration struck a deal with the scottish greens who wanted extra money for local authorities and the budget deal also means that builds for higher rate taxpayers in scotla nd for higher rate taxpayers in scotland will be around £400 more per year than those in the rest of the uk and they will now be, this is the uk and they will now be, this is the first vote, there will be
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detailed scrutiny of the bill. the final vote scheduled for the 20th of february. that first step on the parliamentary path has been taken for the scottish government budget. a quick look at the headlines this evening. the archbishop of canterbury says he was not aware of allegations of physical abuse by the christian summer camp in the 19705 and 805. justin will be admitted today that the church had let victims down badly. a deal has been reached to end part of the dispute causing misery for passengers and southern real. an independent and truly global united kingdom, that is the government vision of the future outside the eu. the emirates saving plan amounts to nothing. in sport, the england head coach, eddiejones, means elliot daly on the wing for the opening six nations match. mariel toto will start his first match as blindside flanker against france. the interim welsh coach has
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named sam warburton in his starting 15 for the match with italy in rome on sunday. after 21 years, frank lampard on sunday. after 21 years, frank lampa rd has announced on sunday. after 21 years, frank lampard has announced his retirement from football. he remains the all—time leading goal—scorer for chelsea. i will be back with more on those stories just after half past. phil shiner was once regarded as one of this country's best human rights lawyers. but his firm has had to close, his reputation is in shreds, and he'll now never work as a lawyer again. it was from the aftermath of the iraq war that phil shiner rose to public prominence. suing the british army over allegations of abuse the defence secretary michael fallon said phil shiner had been ‘exposed' and should apologise to the soldiers whose lives he made a misery. 0ur correspondent, caroline hawley, reports. phil shiner was once regarded as one of this country's best human rights lawyers. but his firm has had to close, his reputation is in shreds, and he'll now never work as a lawyer again.
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it was from the aftermath of the iraq war that phil shiner rose to public prominence. suing the british army over allegations of abuse defined his career and became a personal crusade. in all, he's brought more than 2000 claims. i don't know whether people were killed, but i think something went wrong. we need to find out who was responsible and who in command knew what on earth was going on here. they were kept naked, they were sexually humiliated. this is baha mousa, an iraqi hotel worker battered to death in british custody. this footage shows just the start of his ordeal. it was phil shiner who brought the case to the british courts and to a public inquiry. but it was another public inquiry that was to prove his undoing. the al—sweady inquiry examined what happened after a ferocious battle in southern iraq in 2004. these are the bodies of insurgents killed on the battlefield, but a number of iraqis represented
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by phil shiner with legal aid had claimed they'd been murdered and mutilated in british custody. those claims were found to be based on lies and speculation, and phil shiner‘s work was suddenly under scrutiny. in december, he confessed to paying an agent to find clients. he admitted to acting without integrity. he did not admit to trying to cover his tracks. the false allegations had put immense stress on the soldiers involved. really, their marriages have been affected, their lives have been affected, the anguish this has caused them is quite shocking, and also they are reliving situations in wartime which they would rather forget. many of them have left the service 15, 20 years ago. he's now been exposed for so many false allegations. he's made soldiers' lives a misery over the last few years. i think the decent thing now
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would be for him to apologise properly to all those troops and their families. for mr shiner‘s firm, too, it was a lucrative business, the tribunal was told. it heard that he'd ignored the rules of his profession, believing that his work was so important that the ends justified the means. caroline hawley, bbc news. the inquests into the deaths of 30 british tourists who were killed in a terror attack at a beach resort in tunisia in 2015 have been hearing about the death of a 24—year—old woman who was on holiday with her fiance. carly lovett ran into the hotel in sousse with her partner when the firing began. 0ur correspondent, richard galpin, is at the royal courts ofjustice. well, this has been the final day of the evidence presented by the families of those killed. there has
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been two weeks of evidence from families and it has been very emotional and very difficult for the families, especially those who have appeared at the inquest here. today, there has been another day of very heart—rending evidence, including, as you say, 24—year—old carly lovat who went on holiday to tunisia with her fiance. carly lovett, who was 24—years—old, had recently got engaged to her long—term boyfriend, liam moore. the trip to tunisia was their first holiday alone. but just a few weeks later, liam and her family, relatives and friends were mourning her death at her funeral in lincolnshire. she and liam had been caught up in the attack at an upmarket hotel in tunisia two years ago. the gunman, seifeddine rezgui, specifically targeting british holiday—makers in the name of so—called islamic state. he was armed with an assault rifle and explosives. today, the inquest heard how carly and liam had hidden on the first
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floor of the hotel after realising the resort was under attack. but the gunman, after killing many people outside, then moved into the main building, shooting dead more holiday—makers and eventually reaching carly and liam. she was shot in the chest and hit by shrapnel, probably from a grenade. in his evidence, liam moore said he saw carly lying on the floor in a pool of blood. he could tell she was fading. she said to him, "i love you," and he told her, "i love you." he then decided to try and save her life by doing mouth—to—mouth resuscitation. but then he said when he felt her body relax, he knew it hadn't worked. carly‘s parents described her as a perfect child. she was a photographer, designer, and had a successfulfashion blog. her mother said, "i cannot find the words to express how
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much she is missed." richard galpin, bbc news at the royal courts ofjustice. we have heard from one woman whose husband was killed in the attack. cheryl paid tribute to her husband and described what happened. she went on to launch into a real attack on the issue of security at the hotel. she said that it was absolute chaos during the attack. the staff had absolutely no idea what to do, there were people injured lying around. the staff didn't have a clue about what they should do in this kind of emergency situation. she also said that during the holiday they had had at the hotel, they had not seen any sign of any security guards whatsoever. the only person they had seen was one man standing at the front of the hotel, at the
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front gate, but she said that as far as they could make out he was not checking anyone or anything. so, a blistering attack on the issue of security and this is going to be one of the key issues which will come out in the hearing next week. moving toa out in the hearing next week. moving to a different phase next week. security will be top of the nest and the role of the holiday company and, in particular, did it do enough to warn those people who were blocking their holidays about the threat of terrorism in tunisia at the time? this will be another vital issue which the inquest is going to look into next week. many thanks for that update, richard. ina many thanks for that update, richard. in a moment, we will have the headlines and the sport. in the meantime, the weather. blowing a gale over western parts.
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power outages in western parts, such as cornwall. into the east coast of northern ireland, quite a lively evening. tomorrow morning doesn't look too bad to start with. it clears over northern scotland. a potentially nasty area of low pressure. potential for severe gales in southern and western parts. temperature is not so high tomorrow. we could have some rather lively gust of wind, but maybe some snow over welsh mountains. the weekend, looking a little quieter, more windy and some sunshine. but chillier. more in half an hour.
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this is bbc news at five. the headlines: the archbishop of canterbury says he was not aware of allegations of physical abuse at a christian summer camp in the 19705 and 19805. justin welby, who worked briefly at the same camp, admitted today the church had let victims down very badly. the allegations involve a barrister called john smyth, he's denied any knowledge of the claims, but his daughter has now spoken to the bbc. if these allegations are true, i do think he will have to face justice and that will be painful for everyone involved. a deal is reached to end part of the dispute, which has caused misery for passengers on southern rail. an independent and truly global united kingdom, that's the government's vision of the future outside the eu, labour says the plan amounts to nothing. now the sport.
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england head coach eddiejones has named his team to face france in the opening match of the six nations championship. saracens forward will start a test match for the first time. he is named as chris robshaw is replacement. england head coach eddiejones has named his team to face france in their opening match of rugby union's six nations championship. saracens forward maro itojay will start a test match for the first time at blindside flanker, having been named as chris robshaw‘s replacement.
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eliot daley will start on the wing in place of exeter‘s jack nowell, who missed two days of training this week due to personal reasons. he takes up a spot on the bench. after announcing his side today, eddiejones addressed comments made by former scotland and british lions coach jim telfer who compared jones to donald trump and said the twickenham crowd "look down their noses at the opposition." unsurprisingly, jones doesn't agree. to have a go at the crowd in twickenham, i think it is out of order. wales interim coach rob howley has recalled sam warburton to his side to face italy in rome on sunday. there had been speculation he may miss out, having been dropped as captain in favour of alun wyn jones. scrum half rhys webb is also recalled after injury. injured ireland fly—half jonny sexton has an outside chance of being fit to face italy next weekend according to coachjoe schmidt, but paddy jackson will play against scotland at murrrayfield on saturday, with sexton sidelined with a calf injury. i think he has probably played about 82 minutes for the national team in the last eight test matches. for us, it isa the last eight test matches. for us, it is a real frustration. no different for him. in the six nations, johnny has dominated the
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number ten position. we are still hopeful he can come in and potentially do that. at the same time, paddy has trained really well. former england and chelsea midfielder frank lampard has announced his retirement from football, calling time on a 21 year career. lampard won three premier league titles and four fa cups with chelsea, scoring in the final here against everton in 2009. he also won the 2012 champions league trophy with the london club and remains their all time leading goalscorer. he also played for manchester city and new york city. one of lampard's former coaches at chelsea is the current swansea manager paul clement, who revealed today that he tried to bring the 38 year—old to the welsh club only a few weeks ago. he described lampard as one of the best professionals he has ever worked with. working with him, day—to—day, it was a pleasure to see someone so
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professional, so dedicated, so hard—working. everyday. professional, so dedicated, so ha rd—working. everyday. every professional, so dedicated, so hard—working. everyday. every day in training. he came out with the right attitude, to work hard, to learn, to try to improve. it's no surprise to me with that talent he had in the work ethic, it was a fantastic combination for him to go on and achieve so much at club level and in his great international career. liverpool managerjurgen klopp has responded tojose mourinho's claims that he's being treated differently to other managers. the manchester united head coach was unhappy that klopp avoided punishment despite screaming at the fourth official during tuesday's draw with chelsea. klopp today said that all managers struggle to keep their emotions in check. i think there are different ways to handle the situation. it is quite an emotional game. to switch off emotions at the right moment is not that simple. arsene wenger
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struggles, so do i, we are all different. it is not that we want to do it or it isa different. it is not that we want to do it or it is a tactic, it happens. that's all sport for now. i'll have more in sportsday at 6:30pm. tomorrow sees the launch of an ambitious new programme encouraging young people in britain and france to work together to develop leadership skills in a range of areas including government, media, the armed forces, culture and civic society. the young leaders programme was announced last year by david cameron and president hollande three months before the eu referendum and it was billed as an attempt to strengthen the historic relationship between france and the uk. the french ambassador to the united kingdom is sylvie bermann and she's with me now. given that this was conceived and
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announced three months before the referendum, is this scheme, now we are ina referendum, is this scheme, now we are in a different climate, is it more or less relevant now than when it was conceived? i think more releva nt. it was conceived? i think more relevant. we had this idea because a lot of french people are coming for weekends to london. 13 million british people are going to france further holiday. it doesn't mean we really understand each other. i think this is very important. and it will be even more important with brexit. we need to be close partners. there is the eurostar. there are different systems. it is good to increase our mutual knowledge. my understanding is this will involve 30 or 40 people. how will involve 30 or 40 people. how will they be chosen? there is a
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process of deciding who gets the place? there will be a jury. process of deciding who gets the place? there will be ajury. between 30 and 40 young people. young professionals. we hope they will have a brilliant future. so it will be politics, the economy, media. some journalists could apply. science and sport. all fields will be covered. what will they do? what will be the experience to enrich them? meeting will be the experience to enrich them ? meeting people will be the experience to enrich them? meeting people or involving them? meeting people or involving them in some activities? how does it work? it would be a two-week long seminar. they will meet at the highest level with our political leaders, but also with ce05 and
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editors. they will have some work to do. they will have to do understand the different systems and make proposals regarding how they see our system and a different approach from the other country. because it was conceived as a scheme between two member states, can you see it lasting into the future, if britain is outside the eu? is this the kind of scheme that could survive that new relationship or not? yes, absolutely. it's our bilateral scheme. we have a strong financial relation on the field of defence, the economy, security issues, intelligence sharing, so that won't
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be affected by brexit. we already have this sort of programme with the us and with china. and they are not members of the eu. can i ask you about the climate. the political climate has changed. you're here representing the french republic in the united kingdom. what is your sense of the way it has changed? does it feel like a different country? some french people are reporting to me that some of them think they are less welcome than in the past. do you think that is true? we have reported some incidents. it is true that the climate is not the same. it's not the case with mp5 or
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journalists, because they are friendly, but the climate has changed. elections are coming up in france this year. i know i can't drag you into party politics because you're not allowed to do that, however, it's important to underline that there are many thousands of french people in the uk who will be taking part in that election? yes, for the time being there are 300,000 french in this country. and almost 100,000 are registered to vote. they are mainly in london, of course. we will open 54 polling stations altogether for them to be able to vote during those elections. without getting into the party politics, the way that we observe the process in france is that it is quite fluid. there are lots of things happening,
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making it less predictable. is that your perception? of course i will not comment on the campaign, but you're right, it is unpredictable and that is the only thing i can say. you will be following westminster very closely. the kind of vision the british government has put out today, talking about a truly global uk reaching out to the world, is that a vision that you think makes sense? can you see that as a vision that make sense? and is it a vision that make sense? and is it a vision that make sense? and is it a vision that some french people who are maybe not so enamoured of the european union could look to as well? do you think we are at a time when that kind of message is gaining increasing popularity and strength? there was recent polling in france. more people support the eu because it is important nowadays. we think
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we need the strength of europe. but we need the strength of europe. but we consider france as a global country as well. we are a permanent member of the security council. so we consider ourselves also as a global country. what is the system in france? the same as the american system or what happens?” in france? the same as the american system or what happens? i am not a political appointee. i am system or what happens? i am not a political appointee. iam here system or what happens? i am not a political appointee. i am here for as long as they would like me to stay. it is a very interesting period. people watching will be very interested in your perception is. you have been in the post for three yea rs ? you have been in the post for three years? two and a half. do you think
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things have changed because of the brexit vote, but what are your impressions of life in the uk after two and a half years in this job?|j can't say my life has changed. 0f course, iam can't say my life has changed. 0f course, i am very busy. it is very interesting and pleasant to live your. theatre, opera, meeting scholars and attending think tank meetings. i really like london. we are delighted uk men. thank you very much for sharing your views with us. —— we are delighted that you came in to speak to us. let's get more now on the announcement that a deal has been reached between southern railway and the aslef union to end the long—running dispute over staffing on trains.
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0ur correspondent caroline davies joins us now from london's victoria station. what is the latest? i am outside victoria station, one of the main stages this dispute has taken place. we heard that thames link to operate southern and aslef, who represent the drivers, have come to a deal. we don't know the details. we're waiting to find out. the next stages it will be put to the drivers. if they agree, there will not be any more strike action is on southern trains. certainly good news for commuters here, as i found out earlier. relieved. the last 12 months have been hell. affected a lot of people. good they have finally arrived at a deal, but it is a shame it has taken so long. this
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is terrific news. we have had six months of hell. i am so fed up with it that i cannot express it in words. i am lucky that i have ways i can work around it. other people have not been so lucky. it hasjust been inconvenient for me, but for other people, it has ruined our lives. it has been a real pain. really bad. we will be relieved if it is. very happy indeed. just get things done so we can get to work on time. this comes with a bit of a health warning. this is not the end of the road. drivers need to vote on it and there is another party involved, the rmt who represents the conductors. they said, as far as
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they are concerned, the is still on. we await further details of the deal. if the drivers went on strike, it would take on the whole service, if it is just the rmt, they would be able to operate with 70% capacity. the rmt have told us that they are waiting for more information before they make an announcement. thank you. this is bbc news at five. the headlines: the archbishop of canterbury says he was not aware of allegations of physical abuse at a christian summer camp in the 19705 and 19805. justin welby, who worked briefly at the same camp, admitted today the church had let victims down very badly. a deal is reached to end part of the dispute, which has caused misery for passengers on southern rail. an independent and truly global united kingdom,
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that's the government's vision of the future outside the eu, labour says the plan amounts to nothing. an update on the market numbers for you — here's how london's and frankfurt ended the day. and in the the united states this is how the dow and the nasdaq are getting on. president trump and australian prime minister malcolm turnbull are reported to have had a less than diplomatic telephone conversation about resettling refugees. it was about a deal — signed by president 0bama — to move illegal immigrants from australia to america for resettlement. 0ur correspondent paul adams reports. america's combative new president appears to have picked yet another fight. the fallout from last week's executive order on refugees now casting a shadow over one of washington's closest relationships. last year, the 0bama administration
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agreed to take in up to 1250 asylum seekers from australia's controversial offshore processing camps in the pacific but many are from countries whose citizens are now temporarily barred from entering the united states. on saturday, when the australian prime minister sought assurances the deal was still on track, the conversation was, according to the washington post, cut short. i've seen that report and i'm not going to comment on the conversation other than to say that, in the course of the conversation, as you know, and as was confirmed by the president's official spokesman in the white house, the president assured me that he would continue with and honour the agreement we entered into with the 0bama administration. but late last night, a typically incendiary tweet from the president. do you believe it?, he said. the 0bama administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from australia. why?
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i will study this dumb deal. the fate of the deal remains unclear, but it seems america's friends and foes are all having to get used to the new president's unique style of diplomacy. it's up to his senior officials to pursue rather more conventional approaches. his defence secretary, james mattis, is in south korea. his boss has frequently accused america's asian allies of taking washington's support for granted. but this trip and an agreement to deploy an american missile defence system suggests that, in some quarters at least, it is business as usual. not so with iran. at the weekend, tehran tested a medium—range ballistic missile. now mr trump says iran is formally on notice. should have been thankful, he tweeted this morning, for the terrible deal the us made with them. it isn't clear what he wants to do about the agreement but the businessman turned president is looking at america's deals with the world, and he isn't happy with what he sees. sean spicer has just said that in
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relation to that deal with australia, he says the president will go ahead with it, but with extreme vetting on every refugee. he says he will allow the deal to go ahead, but with extreme vetting on every refugee. a5 ahead, but with extreme vetting on every refugee. as a sign of respect for the australian prime minister. i'm sure there will be more details on that as we go through the evening. he has reiterated on a separate issue that iran is on notice and their missile test is not going unnoticed. we had a report from the white house yesterday that the trump administration was saying
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that iran was being put on warning or on notice. again, sean spicer saying they are on notice as far as the missile testing is concerned. let's take a look at some of the other stories making the news this afternoon. a group of six financiers who carried out a £245 million loans scam have been jailed for a total of nearly fifty years. consultant david mills, bribed hbos manager lynden scourfield, with designer watches, sex parties and luxury holidays. the perks were a reward in exchange for loans which allowed mills and his associates to profit from high consultancy fees. hundreds of thousands of romanians have taken to the streets to demonstrate against government plans to downgrade some corruption offences. the proposals means that public officials will be spared a jail sentence if they were involved in crimes amounting to less than forty thousand pounds. they're the biggest demonstrations in the country since the fall of communism. a four—month public consultation period on a third runway at heathrow started today.
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the government has been setting out the planning regulations with which the airport must comply. the transport secretary, chris grayling, said the expansion would benefit british business, and new aircraft technology would lessen the impact of noise and air pollution. starting primary school is a big moment for children — and their and parents. but for a group of mums in cornwall what's made it more of a challenge is that their children have down's syndrome. so they've written a book about how families can adapt to school life, and it's been so successful they're now spreading the message across the uk, asjohn maguire reports. shall we finish? we need to do some more. it's noah's first year at his primary school in cornwall. the children paint and play games as you might expect, but they're also learning makaton,
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a type of sign language. it's to help them communicate with noah, who has down's syndrome. it's amazing how the children sort of, they almost have this understanding that he is slightly different to them, but they don't treat him differently. if anything, they're very understanding, they want to help noah and they all want to be friends with him. he's very popular in our class. in common with 6500 children in cornwall who've just started school, noah and his classmates received a book as part of a starter pack. he's one of the children featured, and his mum is one of those who devised the idea. this group all have children with down's syndrome. around 750 are born each year in the uk, and this book is given to those parents. their second book is designed for all children starting primary. the book, paid for by fundraising, is now spreading across the uk and around the world. what gives us goose pimples to know is that this little book that contains those little faces is going out to the little hands that it was made for, and that's fantastic. because what we hope is that when that little pack goes home, the treasure pack goes home with that child, and they open
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the book with their grown—up and they say something like, "why has that child got hearing aids? why does that child sit in that chair?" the grown—up might answer them and say, "oh, he's got hearing aids because he needs those so he can hear," and that's what it's about, that opportunity for a small child to ask the question, to receive the answer, and then move onto the next thing, because that's what children do. this is one that angie's made for all children going to school. angie and ted are meeting up with the actor and writer sally phillips and her son 0lly. last year, sally made a documentary looking at a new prenatal test that some believe could eradicate the condition. she's endorsing the book and believes it makes a difference. yes, because we're afraid of things we don't know and things we don't recognise, different things, we all are. and so i think making little kids with down's syndrome familiar and unthreatening to other children is a great thing. back home, and ted's main aim is to beat his sisters at snap. but for his mum and the other volunteers, their ambition
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is to help every child, whether with down's or not, to take those first crucial steps into their brave new world. not great news on the weather. some good news coming up for the weekend for many. considering what we are seeing at the moment. we have some weather clouds for you, denoting we will be primarily cloudy. well, look for yourself. the atlantic is jam—packed with cloud and low pressure systems. blowing up through the irish sea at the moment. power outages over west and south—west england. this is not farfrom
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belfast. contrast that with the east coast in norfolk. a little more calm. generally, a windy night with temperatures keeping up. some cloud, some showers around. the next area of low pressure, deep low pressure is on the shores of the south—west by morning. for most of us, not a bad start the day. some sunshine and quite bright. already, quite windy for wales and the south—west of quite persistent rain. possibly for northern ireland as well. temperature is not as high as they have been in recent days. the wind is the main story, but there could be some hill snow as well. gust of 50 mph inland, 70 on the course to.
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affecting different areas come the afternoon. quite a blast of nasty weather coming through the afternoon and evening tomorrow, to coincide with the rush hour, perhaps heading over to france for the weekend, but it looks quite nasty. the weather warnings are in force for northern france. a lot of dry and fine weather in between. this rain in the east will truck up the north sea coast over saturday night and had its way east of scotland for sunday. a risk of showers again in the south. for many parts, not looking too bad this weekend. quite chilly first thing on sunday morning. we haven't seen much of a frost this week. some sunshine will follow suit. more on the website, including
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the warnings. goodbye. phil shiner is found guilty of dishonesty. he paid thousands to get a witness to change his evidence. he's made soldiers' lives a misery over the last few years. i think the decent thing now would be for him to apologise, properly. iraq war veterans say it was demoralising to be accused of torture and murder. it's certainly been very difficult. it's been a lot of stress on my family, and i've had to go through a number of investigations, tribunals, cross—examinations, which of course are all very stressful events. we'll be asking where this leaves other investigations into claims of abuse in iraq. also tonight: the brexit effect that's yet to happen —
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