this is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11am. the health secretary concedes the nhs in england is facing "completely unacceptable" problems, as patients were forced to wait up to 13 hours in a&e. i'm doing thisjob because i want nhs care to be the safest and best in the world, and that's kind of ca re in the world, and that's kind of care is completely unacceptable, no one would want it for members of their own family. meanwhile, attacks on nhs staff are rising but the body which advises hospitals about stav security said it may be stopping its work. "see you in court," the words from president trump after a federal appealsjudge refuses to reinstate his ban on travellers from seven mainly muslim countries. a man and a woman die and five people are injured in a house fire in manchester. council tax could be forced to rise by as much as 5%, as councils struggle to fund services. also this hour, distressing scenes in new zealand as hundreds of stranded whales die.

conservation staff and volunteers are battling to save 100 that are still alive, in one of the area's worst whale standings in living memory. good morning, it's friday 10th february. i'm rachel schofield. welcome to bbc newsroom live. the health secretary, jeremy hunt, has conceded the nhs in england is facing "completely unacceptable" problems. he said there was "no excuse" for some of the difficulties highlighted during the bbc‘s nhs week. a series of reports have revealed lengthening waits in a&e and patients being left for hours on trolleys. in an exclusive interview with the bbc, mr hunt

told our health editor hugh pym that the government has a plan, but it will take time to deliver. nhs england figures this winter show the worst waiting time performance in a&e units since records began more than a decade ago. jeremy hunt paid tribute to the work of staff, but said the problems of high patient demand were not unique to the nhs, and all leading health systems were grappling with the same challenge. he said there was no silver bullet. i think it's wrong to suggest to people that these profound challenges such as we face with an ageing population are ones where there's a silver bullet that you can solve the problem overnight. we have a very good plan, it has the support of nhs, it will take time to deliver. asked about bbc coverage this week of patients enduring lengthy waits in a&e and an elderly woman having to spend six months in hospital, because no care home place was available, he said he didn't want to make excuses and these examples were completely unacceptable.

it is, you know, incredibly frustrating for me. i'm doing thisjob because i want nhs care to be the safest and best in the world. and that kind of care is completely unacceptable. no—one would want it for members of their own family. he added that problems over the sustainability of social care were now being addressed by the government. but sir robert francis, who carried out an inquiry into the mid—staffordshire scandal, said it was inevitable that the same mistakes would be made again if the current pressure on nhs resources continued. hugh pym, bbc news. the bbc has also learned that the organisation responsible for advising english health trusts on the security of staff is ending that work, despite a steep increase in attacks on doctors and nurses. nhs protect has confirmed that its role in hospital security will continue only until the end of march. 0ur health correspondent robert pigott has this report. it has been a winter of queueing

ambulances and long, tense wait in a&e, as the delays have lengthened tempers have grown shorter bust up assaults on nhs staff in england have multiplied to a new high last year of more than 70,000. doctor geoff britton george has justjoined a hospital where assaults are declining, but she has witnessed several elsewhere. most nhs staff would say at some point or another they have been attacked or felt u nsafe at they have been attacked or felt unsafe at work. it is a running joke in the staff room, what has happened to me today, i have been hit again, something like that. everyone is on alert, everyone is looking out for the patients they think will kick off. alan, not his real name, works for nhs protect. he claims it has deliberately avoided public discussion about ending its role in protecting staff. i think it is an absolute disgrace we are turning our back on staff in the nhs. they are

there to protect the public and we are there to protect them. it will have a material effect in my view, i think assaults will go through the roof. nhs protect said it was consulting staff on a pro—dash—macro on proposals under which our organisation would not be tasked with security management work. it added, it should be noted that keeping health and secure has always been a responsibility of local nhs employers. but critics claim that without nhs protect‘s help and oversight, trusts will struggle to protect staff. they said there is a creeping acceptance that staff will be attacked, and too little will to protect them. all this comes at the end of the bbc‘s nhs week, when we've been looking at the problems facing the nhs in england and across the uk, from social care cuts, pressures on gps and a&e waiting times. let's hear more from our health editor hugh pym, who put these issues to health secretaryjeremy hunt. 0verall, there are positive things

as well as negative things, and there is huge commitment to the nhs to sort out those negative things, and a particular pressure point we haveis and a particular pressure point we have is a&e, and what we need to do is find ways of treating particularly people with complex conditions, older people with dementia, treating them at home or in the community, and that is the big direction of change that we have embarked on. but that is long return. what we are seeing in hospitals right now, the scenes we have been showing on the bbc this week, real stress and strain, the figures out show performance targets are the worst since 2004, what can you do about it right now, shouldn't you do about it right now, shouldn't you be doing more?” you do about it right now, shouldn't you be doing more? i think it is wrong to suggest to people but these profound challenges such as we face with an ageing population are ones where there is a silver bullet when you can solve the problem overnight. we have a very good plan, it has the support of the nhs. it will take time to deliver, but in terms of

immediate support we are doing what we can with extra financial support to the nhs this year, more doctors, more nurses, but we also need to rally behind people in the nhs who are working very hard to try and sort out those problems, and we also need the public‘s help because we know a number of people seen in a&es could actually have their needs dealt with in another part of the nhs and we need to make sure as far as we can be free up people in a&e departments to deal with the most vulnerable patients who have particular needs. there have been cuts to social care funding under your government, hasn't that created the problem we are now seeing? as i say, there are no excuses and it is com pletely say, there are no excuses and it is completely unacceptable. what i would say is, on social care, the prime minister has been very clear, we recognise the pressured there, we recognise there is a problem about the sustainability of the social ca re system, the sustainability of the social care system, that has to be addressed. more money in the budget? that is for the chancellor and the

prime minister. look at what the prime minister. look at what the prime minister. look at what the prime minister said this week, this is an area where there is pressure and if we are going to have a solution, it has to be a long—term sustainable solution and not a quick fix. secretary of state, thank you very much. and in half—an—hour we'll be getting the chair of the royal college of gps to answer your questions and respond to any suggestions you may have on the increasing pressure faced by gps. please get in touch by text us or send an email or contact us via twitter using the hashtag #bbcaskthis. a federal appeals court in the united states has refused to reinstate donald trump's ban on travellers from seven mainly muslim countries. the controversial immigration reform was suspended last week. but the president appears determined to continue the legal battle, saying on twitter: "see you in court. the security of our nation is at stake!" david willis reports. as his controversial pick for

attorney general was sworn in, donald trump hailed a new era of justice in america. former senator jeff sessions now the us' top law enforcement officer may have his work cut out. i am establishing new vetting measures to keep radical islamic terrorists out of the united states of america. i don't want them here. donald trump's sudden ban on visitors from seven mainly muslim nations caused chaos at airports and sparked protesting across the us. then, last week, a districtjudge in seattle granted a stay, and now, a san francisco—based appeals court has backed that stay, citing, among other things, that nobody from those seven nations has actually carried out an attack on the us. the decision infuriated donald trump. prompted the leader of one

of the states leading the court challenge to reply... the president is nonetheless convinced he will win. it is a political decision, we will see them in courtand political decision, we will see them in court and i look forward to doing it. we have a situation where the security of our country is at stake and it is a very serious situation soi and it is a very serious situation so i look forward, as ijust said, to see them in court. we are a nation of laws, and as i've said, as we have said, from day one, those laws apply to everybody in our country. that includes the president of the united states. an appeal to the highest court in the land, the us supreme court, now seems likely. but that could put the decision in the hands of a court that's currently evenly divided, and a tie would leave the lower court's ruling in place.

donald trump maintains his ban is necessary in order to protect the us from terrorism, but it may yet be proven unconstitutional. and, until he has his day in court, refugees from around the world and citizens of those seven muslim nations can continue to come into this country. david willis, bbc news, washington. in the past, the court of appeal has ruled a big plumbing firm should have granted a work it regarded as self—employed as having basic workers' rights. gary smith, who worked for london based pimlico plumbers for six years until 2011, had already won an employment tribunal in the case after challenging the compa ny‘s tribunal in the case after challenging the company's view that he was self—employed. the ruling may have implications for other workers in so—called gig economy. for more, joan lawrence is outside the royal courts ofjustice joan lawrence is outside the royal courts of justice in joan lawrence is outside the royal courts ofjustice in central london.

——job line is outside. the claimant, gary smith, worked between 2005 and 2011 for pimlico is prommers in a contest that looked self—employed, he was registered for vat, bought his own tools, but he had to drive a pimlico plumbers blue van, wear the uniform, had to drive a pimlico plumbers blue van, wearthe uniform, and if had to drive a pimlico plumbers blue van, wear the uniform, and if he wa nted van, wear the uniform, and if he wanted to work for other people there were severe restrictions. so he bought a case to the employment tribunal when he wanted to work fewer hours and wasn't allowed, the employment tribunal said he was in fa ct employment tribunal said he was in fact our work and was entitled to back holiday pay and a lot of the protections afforded to employed people. that case was appealed to the court of appeal, the building behind me at the royal court of justice. the ruling in the last hour that in fact mr smith is a worker and was entitled to compensation for back holiday pay and other things. we spoke to the founder of pimlico

plumbers and he said he will make changes to how his workers are engaged, but with me now is the claimant's solicitor, jacqueline mcguigan, who bought this case to the court of appeal. i suppose congratulations are in order. what does it mean for other people, apart from your client, in this case?” think it is huge. at the moment there are lots of cases, we had the well—known case of goober, with 40,000 drivers, where it is not clear, although they won in the first instance, it is not clear whether they are a worker, that will be appealed. i think this judgment clarifies the different models that there are. we spoke to charlie mullins, the founder of pimlico plumbers, he said legal advice suggests the likely appeal, they may not appeal, but likely appeal to the supreme court, so this battle is not yet over? as far as we are concerned, mr smith won in the employment tribunal, he succeeded

again in the employment appeal tribunal and now in the court of appeal, and it is a resounding victory. the courts are saying the same thing, mrsmith victory. the courts are saying the same thing, mr smith was tightly controlled by pimlico plumbers and, as you said, he had to wear the uniform, drive the ban, really be controlled by the organisation and provide a personal service. he was not able to work for anybody else. this could have much wider ramifications, we have already discussed this. is this going to change the so—called gig economy, people working at the behest of an app? it is huge, because in mr smith's case, he worked in the building industry, he paid vat, he called himself self—employed, he paid an accountant to do his taxes. without realising he was a worker entitled to paid holiday, entitled to anti—discrimination laws, so i

think it is huge across the board. and wider ramifications, should the government legislate to bring into affect some of the ruling we heard today? i think the government really needs to look at this because it really is hitting the people at the bottom that are trying to work. mr smith didn't have a say in the job offer, he had to simply accept the terms as offered so he couldn't negotiate or change those terms, so i think there has to be consideration in this. jacqueline mcguigan, thank you very much for helping us, jacqueline brought the case on behalf of gary smith against pimlico plumbers. the ruling will be studied by both sides, it could be appealed to the supreme court for a final ruling on this but there is no question that people engaged in the so—called gig economy will be watching this very, very carefully. thanks very much indeed. the headlines on bbc newsroom live. the health secretary concedes the

nhs in england is facing completely unacceptable problems, as patients we re unacceptable problems, as patients were forced to wait up to 13 hours in a&e. president trump says he will try to overturn an appeals court ruling which refused to reinstate his ban on travellers from seven mainly muslim countries. a man and a woman have died and four children are among those injured after a house fire in manchester. in sport, england director of cricket andrew strauss and his team have spoken tojoe root, ben stokes, stuart broad and jos butler to discuss the vacant england test captaincy. route is the favourite to replace alistair cook, who stood down this week. virat kohli has become the first batsman to score a double century in four consecutive test series. he made 204 in india's huge total of

687six, declared on the first day of the test against bangladesh. and england head coach eddiejones has surprised his wales counterpart, deciding he wants the roof open when the two sides meet in the six nations tomorrow. he made the decisionjust nations tomorrow. he made the decision just before the 48—hour deadline passed. i will be back with more on those just after half past. a man and a woman have died in a house fire in bridlington in greater manchester. greater manchester police said a man and four children aged between ten and 17 were taken to hospital. the cause of the fire is unknown. none of the royal navy's seven attack submarines are currently on operations, the bbc understands. 0nly only one of the seven is currently at sea conducting trials. normally at sea conducting trials. normally at least one of these boat is on operations but several submarines are having refits or maintenance after breaking down. the ministry of defence said it does not comment on specific operations but that the royal navy continues to meet all

operational tasks. campaigners are at the high court to challenge the government's handling of the arrival of unaccompanied child refugees from europe. ministers have decided to end the scheme once 350 vulnerable children have been admitted. council tax rises will hit many households in england and wales according to new research. the local government information unit says that 94% of council leaders and senior officials questioned said they would be forced to put up taxes and increase charging for services. some households will face rises of up to 5%, well above inflation. let's speak now to jonathan carr—west, chief executive of the lgiu, the body that put out the figures behind today's story. what picture did you find of the financial state of england and wales' local government? we have had a rather bleak picture of local government finances. eight out of ten of the leaders we questioned said they had no faith in the

sustainability of the system. we see councils cobbling together their budgets by putting up council tax, increasing charging, drawing down reserves , increasing charging, drawing down reserves, said they are really struggling to get through and balance their books. people listening at home who pay council tax will think, what is about to hit me and what kind of vision do we have of the future? four out of ten other councils that responded to this said they thought the public would feel the impact of service cuts, that they would see deterioration in the services they use. one in ten said they were worried they would not be able to meet their core statutory responsibilities, their legal duties. it found abstract that they are important things, looking after elderly people, protecting vulnerable children, the real stuff of everyday life, and that is under immense pressure. give us a sense of where that pressure comes from? the biggest single pressure on local governor finances in adult social care, there are many reasons for that, the biggest is that as a

population we are living longer and longer, which is of course a great thing and we should celebrate that in many ways but if you think the number of people over 80 has doubled in the last 20 years and is set to double again in the next 20 years, and those people need care. they are not all imperfect out, they need people to go to their houses to help them get dressed and feed them. we have seen in your previous story about being unable to free people from nhs beds because there is no ca re from nhs beds because there is no care for them outside hospital, so these are massive pressures on council services. we also have children's services and homelessness duty is coming up on the outside as big pressures as well that councils identify as a medium—term threat. big pressures as well that councils identify as a medium—term threatm terms of what tools the councils have at their disposal, give us a sense of how people might see the bills rise because it depends what your local authority is responsible for? yes, it depends if they are responsible for social care, so if you live in a unitary authority, london, a big city, ora you live in a unitary authority, london, a big city, or a county council, they pay for social care,

they are allowed to put an additional 3% precept on the council tax, which has to fund social care specifically, so that is extra money to look after people in your community. 0ther councils who don't have that responsibility are only allowed to put it by 2%, so it is either 2% or 2% and the extra 3%. you said aloud, surrey were threatening, as we heard, to put council tax up 20%, but there is a hitch, they have to jump through an extra hoop. they have to take that toa extra hoop. they have to take that to a referendum of the population, no one has ever done that. why has no one has ever done that. why has no one has ever done that. why has no one done that? they are not convinced they can win it but also the expense of doing that and the difficulty would wipe out the benefit in any case. you make a point that local authorities are struggling, and perhaps would lay some of the blame at central government level for not giving them an autonomy, perhaps? yes, and for me the most depressing finding here is that councils have no faith in

central government strategy, so we asked them about the precept to fund social care, the 3%, 96% of them said it is not enough money. we asked about plans to retain business rates, half said, we think we will be worse off. they do have ideas of what they want, they want to be able to integrate services more effectively ata integrate services more effectively at a local level so that when you keep people out of hospital you benefit from the saving, they want to have greater powers to borrow money, to invest, to use the assets, buildings, land, they want to look at varying local taxes, introducing taxes in areas of high tourism, something talked about in london, but all of those measures at the moment are completely off the table. these are all things that work in other countries, we should at least be considering them. it sounds like an area fora be considering them. it sounds like an area for a lot of discussion. jonathan, thank you very much indeed. rail ticket machines cause so much confusion that a fifth of passengers who use them buy the wrong ticket, according to the rail regulator. while 7% of travellers

underpay and could be fined, 13% are paying too much. the office of rail and road wants train companies to refund passengers who accidentally buy tickets which are too expensive for their journey. andy moore reports. buying a train ticket can be difficult at the best of times. this report says that buying one from a machine without any human help can be even more confusing. the independent regulator, the office of rail and road, carried out a study using mystery shoppers. it found that many people bought the wrong tickets. 13% paid more for their tickets than they needed to. 6% paid less than they should have done, opening themselves to the risk of being fined. and 65% couldn't find any information about which type of ticket they should be buying. one person found that buying a ticket with a rail card was actually more expensive than buying one without. the consumer group which described the situation as a mess, saying it was unacceptable that some passengers were paying

over the odds. in december, the department of transport launched an action plan to improve ticketing. last week, rail operators announced a trial scheme that would automatically offer the cheapest fares to passengers. the rail minister, paul maynard, welcomed this latest report, saying the ticketing was often too complicated and hard to navigate. the rail operators said it was difficult to offer simple options at ticket machines because of what they called decades—old rail regulations by the government. andy moore, bbc news. let's look at some of today's other developing stories. one in five students in independent schools received extra time to complete gcse and a—level exams last year. that's significantly higher than those who received the special measure in state schools, where the figure is fewer than one in eight. the difference has come to light following an analysis of official exam data by bbc radio 4's today

programme. police in the netherlands say they've seized a quantity of chemicals big enough to produce one billion ecstasy pills. the haul was discovered inside a lorry near the belgian border. it included 100,000 bottles of hydrogen gas and 15,000 kilos of caustic soda. the netherlands is a major manufacturing hub for the drug. record numbers of dolphins have been spotted off scotland's west coast. conservationists have been tracking the mammals as part of an ongoing survey to learn more about their behaviour and habitats. the waters around the hebrides are home to nearly 70% of europe's dolphin, whale and porpoise species. scientists say the reason for the increase in numbers remains unclear. hollywood star george clooney and his human rights lawyer wife amal are expecting twins, according to reports from the us. the couple married in venice in 2014. rumours began to circulate last month that mrs clooney was pregnant

and the babies are reportedly due injune. for a full summary of the news you can go to our website, bbc.co.uk/news. when patients suddenly deteriorate, getting them the help they need quickly is vital. 0ne hospital in fife has found that technology might hold the answer. nurses at victoria hospital were given touch screen tablets to help them easily identify the patients at highest risk. steven godden reports. good morning, welcome to the huddled up good morning, welcome to the huddled up micro at the victoria hospital, every day begins like this. each department coming together to share information. cardiac arrest in the last 24 hours? the purpose of the meeting summed up in three words. safe to start. safe to start. fulfilling the mantra requires a

combination of traditional and modern methods. fife is the only board using this technology. patients details are entered into a tablet, which gives a ratings go. the information is available immediately throughout the hospital. it is easy for people to see patterns and have an early warning, so ata patterns and have an early warning, so at a glance we can see where the sickest patients are so we can ensure that resources go to the right areas. introduced in one board as part of a pilot project, the technology is now used throughout the hospital. 0ne measure of success is that it has helped to reduce the number of cardiac arrest. good morning. pleased with the results, the hospital are now considering an upgrade, wearable tech that co nsta ntly u pdate upgrade, wearable tech that constantly update the patient‘s readings. so, the information from this is coming through to a phone here. how do you feel about wearing this? feels right, i can move around

and stuff. it is all wireless, signals through the bluetooth. just like the current system, a high school automatically triggered an immediate call to the doctor. the longer it takes for doctors and nurses to recognise a patient is deteriorating, the longer that time is and the more serious it is for the patient, so the quicker they can respond and initiate treatment, the better it is for the patient. this trial points towards the future but it still needs to pass an age old test, does it help staff help the patients who needed the most? it is feeling chilly, let's cross to darren to get the weather. yes, it is feeling cold over the next few days, probably some more snow for some of us tonight, a few holes in the cloud into northern england,

northern scotland, still some wintry showers, scotland will see the best of the breaks and some sunshine developing, pushing down eventually to northern ireland. for england and wales, generally cloudy, more wintry showers coming in, snow likely inland and particularly over the hills. a cold day, three or 4 degrees at best, feeling cold given the strength of the wind. the wind will pick up further overnight, blowing in wet weather off the north sea, rain along the coast, sleet or snow inland will tend to lift off the hills later on, though there may be icy patches over the hills of northern england, south—east scotland. a very frosty start across north—western scotland and northern ireland, early sunshine here. a lot of cloud blowing in on the strengthening wind to bring us that rain, sleet and hill snow. a cold day, raw feel to the date given the

strong winds, this is one that will really feel freezing as it will do again on sunday. this is bbc newsroom live. the headlines at 11.30. the health secretaryjeremy hunt concedes the nhs in england is facing ‘completely unacceptable problems considering the long waits in a and e.‘ speaking to the bbc, mr hunt said the key was to treat more people "at home and in the community." the bbc has learnt that the body which advices hospitals about staff security may stop its work — that's despite the number attacks on nhs workers increasing. president trump tweets "see you in court" — that's after a federal court rejects the appeal to reinstate his travel ban from seven predominately muslim countries. a man and a woman die in a house fire in manchester which has also

injured three girls and a boy. hundreds of whales who washed up on the cost of new zealand have died. conservation staff and volunteers are battling to save the one hundred that are still alive. plenty more to come. now though, the latest on the sport. hello. hello. arsene wenger has sent a clear message to arsenal's fans, saying they need to be more like those of their north london rivals. they are 12 points behind in the title race and arsene wenger thinks if they are to stage a comeback, everyone at the clu b to stage a comeback, everyone at the club needs to be united. we fight with the other clubs, everywhere, we fight with manchester united, liverpool. they are clubs with big

expectations and histories. we have the chance to do it. you have totte n ha m. the chance to do it. you have tottenham. everyone is in the fight and behind their team. we have to do exactly the same, even if there are disappointing results. the football association of wales will be appealing a fine for displaying poppies against serbia in november. fever took action after fa ns wore november. fever took action after fans wore poppies in the stands and the armed forces held bunches of poppies at the edge of the pitch. england have spoken to stuart broad, joe brought and —— joe england have spoken to stuart broad, joe brought and ——joe root england have spoken to stuart broad, joe brought and —— joe root and then

with regards to the captaincy of the england team. joe root was the vice captain to alistair campbell —— alastair cook. a record breaking innings from captain virat kohli has put india firmly in control of the one—off test match against bangladesh. kohli made 204 as india declared on 687 for 6 on day two. his latest innings means he surpasses the streaks of his compatriot rahul dravi and the legendary don bradman, who both made double centuries in three consecutive series. there is another big weekend ahead in the six nations. the roof will be open for the match between england and cardiff on saturday. that is what england wanted as well. their head coach, eddie jones, what england wanted as well. their head coach, eddiejones, suggested head coach, eddiejones, suggested he wasn't bothered but he suggested that he thought wales could have other tricks up their sleeves. we

are prepared to win. we are prepared for any other shenanigans that may go one. it is a great opportunity to play in one of the great stadiums of the world. what shenanigans are you prepared for? i don't know, but ira cunning lot, the welsh. they always have been. —— they are a cunning lot, the worse. they have got goats and daffodils. yes, wales are very proud of their ceremonial goat that leads them out, as they are of george north who is named in the side ahead —— alongside another injury worry, dan bigot. we train as best we can for a six—day turnaround and we are looking forward to playing one of the best sides are not the best side in the northern hemisphere at this moment. theirform northern hemisphere at this moment. their form says everything about england. you admire their strength and depth. thejohanna and depth. the johanna konta and depth. thejohanna konta is on court at the moment looking to make it three wins

out of three for great britain in the final round of —— the final tower of their fed cup match. heather watson took the first match of the tie with a straight sets victory. watson lost only one game. england's danny willett is only one side —— one shot off the lead in the european tour tournament in malaysia. he trails this burger, with the austrian making an impressive nine under par. that is everything for now. i will be back in the next hour. this morning, we've been asking for your questions and suggestions you may have on the increasing pressure faced by gps. before discuss that, here's a quick flavour of what we've

been seeing this week as part of our special coverage of the nhs. 0ur correspondent mark norman visited a so—called super gp practice in whitstable, which is aiming to help reduce the flow of patients who need to go to hospital. i'm in the back of an mri scanner. it is an articulated lorry that is parked right outside agp's surgery invites whitstable. they care for around 36,000 patients here but they are around 20 miles from the nearest accident and emergency unit, so the nhs here have to think carefully about how to manage complex needs locally and not let so many people go to hospital. so what can gps do to help a system that is increasingly under pressure? and how are the gps themselves coping? here with me now to answer some of your questions and talk about any suggestions is our health editor, hugh pym. and i'm alsojoined by professor helen stokes—lampard, president of the royal college of gps. she's in our birmingham studio. thanks very much to you both. let's

kick off with this question that has come in from alex pearson, a big picture finance question. how much money, they ask, with the nhs saved if they charge for the treatment of illnesses caused by lifestyle, such as smoking and drinking? that is a very big question and the answer is, where do you draw the line? if you say, it is just smoking, where do you draw the line? if you say, it isjust smoking, it is where do you draw the line? if you say, it is just smoking, it is easy to define who is a smoker and what their health outcomes are. but can you charge people for disease —— for diseases linked to lifestyle and drinking when you have got a whole range of different kinds of drinkers and the amount they consume? you have got type two diabetes which accou nts have got type two diabetes which accounts for something like £8 billion worth of the nhs england budget alone. type two diabetes is linked to lifestyle and diet. how on earth can you charge people for that? it's a very, very difficult

area but where do you draw the line? do you charge people who have been ona skiing do you charge people who have been on a skiing holiday, who can afford to do that, break their legs and come back? you say, you have got to pay for your follow—up care in the nhs. it is so difficult to imagine it being implemented and drawing a line, it's impossible to say how much could be saved. let's get the practical point on this as well. you see people who come in and you think, clearly you are unwell because you have smoked for 20 years or so one, but do you see any practical way of that working? no. i can see where alex is coming from but hugh is quite right. to implement such a thing would be so difficult, because there are so many grey areas. for what you and i might call obese, it could be very different to what is under the oslo ta bles different to what is under the oslo tables of different racial groups

have different weight standards. the same as alcohol. is it someone who drinks 20 units a week, ten units a week or 50? there are so many value judgments that go into this sort of thing, particularly when one group of people think your behaviour is a cce pta ble of people think your behaviour is acceptable and another one doesn't. if we put up barriers between doctors, nurses and their patients because you are suddenly passing judgment on them in a way that would effect with —— affect the trusting bond, that is difficult. another viewer says, if we can't do something that differentiates, how about a blanket system? say a small £10 charge for a gp visit. would that help? again, intrinsic appeal to putting a £10 charge on a visit to putting a £10 charge on a visit to the gp. first of all, would you exclude everyone who is currently

entitled to free prescriptions on the nhs? that's a huge percentage of the nhs? that's a huge percentage of the people we treat, like children, the people we treat, like children, the elderly, those with hugely complex health needs already. if you include those, most of these are the most honourable in society and £10 isa most honourable in society and £10 is a huge amount of money for them. you might want a range of fees. £5 for those, £10 for lower tax payers and £40 for higher tax payers. if you are going to do that, it fundamentally alters the principles of the nhs which is that care should be free at the point of need and it would be a very complex change in the way we think about our nhs. let me pick that up with you. that phrase is so telling. free at the point of care is so telling and ideological it would be a massive thing for a government to walk away from that. yes, it would and no politicians from any party are signed up to that at all. we did do

a poll with murray earlier this week and 30% of those who responded said that they thought it was acceptable for charges to apply. you could say that that is a minority but you could also say that 37% is a larger number. there is a gp in 0xfordshire who controversially announced that he and others were planning system outside of the nhs because nhs commissioners were rowing back on kare available, for example treating skin lesions, so they were prepared to offer that outside of the nhs for those that wanted to pay. that raises questions as where do you draw the line on that? it raises fundamental questions about what the nhs is therefore. this sort of thing is being talked about. the other thing is, if you talk —— charge to see a thing is, if you talk —— charge to seea gp, thing is, if you talk —— charge to see a gp, will that make more people could accident and emergency because it is free? then do you start charging for accident and emergency?

how on earth do you do that in a very busy hospital. one of the other issues that comes up the issue of time wasters. the lib clark has been in touch and he says, how about charging those that abuse the nhs? is that an option? is it even legal? again, where do you draw the line? 0ne again, where do you draw the line? one obvious point is people who get drunk ona one obvious point is people who get drunk on a friday or saturday night orany drunk on a friday or saturday night or any other night and going to accident and emergency. the sort of self—inflicted injury. helen and i we re self—inflicted injury. helen and i were taking part on a debate in this under victoria derbyshire programme earlier this week and there is an initiative to help people who overindulge and get injured and that may involve some kind of small payment but it is very hard to draw the line. there may be somebody who has imbibed a certain amount and fallen over on a snowy night. can you really charge them? it's an interesting idea but difficult to see how it can be introduced.

looking at the theme of these questions, there is a thought among the general public that there are people using nhs services who shouldn't be there. from your own experience in a gp practice, what percentage of people thatjuicy do you think, you really shouldn't be sitting in front of me? it's difficult to put a fixed percentage because whilst i as a doctor might think the person doesn't need the services of a gp, many of these people do need the services of somebody and like accident and emergency, gps will see anybody with any problem. some of the problems we deal with our social problems, because people don't have adequate housing, they need social services help. they need the help of the community, their family and friends, but actually they have a long way from home, lonely and disenfranchised. they are struggling ina disenfranchised. they are struggling in a myriad of —— a myriad of ways and we are dealing with all of those. what amazing to one person a small thing is a big problem for

another. we talk to some people who have got the mildest form of sunburn and you think, just put a bit of moisturiser when it was they think they are written a lot of pain but nobody has taught them that. they are not the majority of what we do though. the vast majority of our patients need something from us and something that even if it isn't strictly medical, it is something that they are not getting from another part of society. another group that comes under this but light is non—uk residents and dan jenkins has come —— been in touch to say, how much difference would non—uk residents payments make to the nhs? i guess it depends where you are in the country. yes, as some areas have more visitors than others. 0verall, areas have more visitors than others. overall, we think it is about 0.3%, 0.4% of of the nhs

budget that relates to providing ca re budget that relates to providing care for a visitors. of course, many of those visitors are contributing to society and many other ways. they are people who are working here, contributing, paying taxes, so it's difficult to say somebody is or isn't entitled to it. efforts are underway and sensible, pragmatic things will be welcomed, with things announced a few days ago where people who register with the gp and are not raised in the uk will have to states that. that is a small administration of thing. but nhs care, maternity care will remain free to visitors to the uk because it is too bureaucratic to try to stop that at the moment. that may change in the long run. this is an

idea which is much easierfor politicians to get on board with. but it is complex. we have got brexit looming, putting another spanner in the works about how we charge people and whom. spanner in the works about how we charge people and whomm spanner in the works about how we charge people and whom. it will and the government has been criticised for not pursuing this enough. the national audit office criticise them because they said they had a target for recouping 500 million, for people outside of the uk and europe who could and should be charged, and the hospitals just weren't doing that. the 500 million target will be missed next year and the government got criticised for that. the government is now trying to put in place measures to ensure that hospitals do make more effort to charge and charge upfront. it does involve more bureaucracy and it has resulted in people saying it is a distraction. but i think there are people who make the point that if

you can recoup 500 million and you are not doing it, that is valuable money for the nhs. maybe a £150 million shortfall is in place and that could still go towards nhs care, even though that is a small amount. people see a problem and think how they want to help the nhs. we have had a question to say are there ways that the nhs can safely try new ways of working or is there too much bureaucracy? what is your experience, helen? there are some fantastic examples of innovation and best practice going on across the uk, notjust in england but across the four nations of the uk. in england, we have had vanguard projects which are encouraging practices around the uk to deliver ca re practices around the uk to deliver care in new and innovative ways. that can involve practices coming together, so super partners or super

practices, but also bringing together social and community care with general practice services and a whole host of other health care professionals. so nurses, other health care provisionals, all the people who work in the communities to deliver the care that the bunny close to their home. there is space for innovation. what we need is a little bit of innovation to help us get there. most gps around the country and their teams are just desperately fire fighting to survive and to provide the minimum service at the moment. we'd like to do so much more. do you think people visiting their gps will see a change over the coming years, new ways of working? yes, i think so. both in gp practices locally, as helen says, with a lot more things being offered. there are some quite innovative schemes going on involving social capital and —— social care and local health officials working together to join things up more. they often haven't

talked the decades. where you have a gp working with the local ambulance tea m gp working with the local ambulance team and hospital and identifying vulnerable patients, so that if a paramedic is called round they now are that the patient and they can be treated at home, rather than being taken to accident and emergency and being stuck in the system. going to a care home and care home staff know how to deal with a vulnerable resident, rather than having to call an ambulance, they have coordinated information with the gp. there is an awful lot going on but as helen said, there is a question of resource. do you need more money upfront to make the changes which could make a big difference or could more happen and the nhs become more efficient with what it got? really interesting stuff. thank you very much to everyone who sent in questions and my thanks also to hugh pym and to helen. some breaking news. an update on the

news from montpelier in southern france. we knew for people had been arrested in and around the city on suspicion of planning a terrorist attack. we are hearing according to attack. we are hearing according to a city —— a statement from the interior ministry that those people had been planning an imminent attack. so in custody, a 22—year—old man, a 16—year—old girl and both already known for connections to radical islam. they have found explosives and other bomb—making materials. four people arrested in total, no more detail on the other two. as britain prepares to leave the european union, there are a number of voices influencing the debate. a key part of the referendum campaign focussed on the voice of businesses. the bbc‘s business unit has been focussing on various sectors to see how they are reacting. today, we are looking into the fishing industry. let's join vishala sri—pathma who is at a fish market in grimsby. it's a shame we haven't got smelly

cam here. well, yes, it is fragrant where we are at the moment. grimsby is one of the biggest ports for fishing in the country. a town like this and also the industry of fishing voted largely in favour of leaving the european union. brexit brings about its unique challenges in terms of the localities for the industry and joining me now is maritime lawyer, andrew 0liver. what are the legal challenges for fishing? when we come out of the eu and the common fisheries policy, we will be subject to the united nations convention on the law of the sea, which will allow the uk to be in charge of its own quotas and fisheries and legislation within a 200 mile limit. lots of fishermen we re 200 mile limit. lots of fishermen were hoping that leaving the european union would give fishermen more clout in terms of negotiations. is that the case? although we will be in charge of bahrain destiny in charge of setting —— in terms of

setting our own quotas, the united nations does say that we have to acknowledge historic fishing rights which could be the rights that european fishermen have built up during the time of the common fisheries policy. we are a net importer of fish. are we likely to do business with countries outside of the european union? we already do quite a lot of deals at the moment, with countries from scandinavia, iceland and the faroes. i see that continuing. there is also the possibility of deals with canada, america, who would like to get a pa rt of america, who would like to get a part of our industry and trade with our industry. what would a bilateral trade deal look like? what kind of negotiations will have to go on with that? well, we will now be able to try to negotiate our own deals rather than have those negotiated for us through europe. it will be a case of sitting down and doing a deal with our counterparts, whether thatis

deal with our counterparts, whether that is in norway or in north america. but also in terms of craters, whereas before quotas were set in europe, and then we were given part of the european crater, now would be able to sit at the table and negotiate our own quotas from international organisations. thank you very much. it is late in the day frobisher men as they have already been and gone, having arrived at dawn. that is it from grimsby for now. i will be back throughout the afternoon. —— it is late in the day for fishermen. how do you catch dog owners who don't clean up after their pet's done its business? following a successful pilot in one london borough, the isle of man could be the latest authority about to introduce a doggy dna database. irresponsible owners could then be traced and fined. holly hamilton reports. they may be man's best friend, but the mess some leave behind is unpleasant and even dangerous.

but soon it could also be evidence and the dog's owner brought tojustice. it's after a pilot scheme in a london borough introduced voluntary dna testing at the start of last year — after just three months they saw a 50% drop in dog fouling. now they hope to make it compulsory and others are taking their lead. the isle of man is launching a public consultation in a plan to launch it there. you can track back from the dna profile dog poo on the pavement to the dog that has left the mess behind. we've all been there — getting mess on the carpet after we've trod in it. and it seems to press a nerve among the main public. it's a cost of about £30 per dog, so it isn't cheap. with uk local authorities already under huge financial constraint, there are questions over who would pay to trace dog owners that have fallen foul of the law.

a volcano in hawaii has started to flow laugher straight into the pacific ocean. —— atlantic ocean. it is nicknamed the fire hose and you can see lava pouring out of the sea cliff directly into the ocean. the volcano has been active since 1983. the headlines coming up on the bbc news channel. in a moment, we say goodbye to bbc two but first, here's darren. thank you very much. it will feel raw over the next few days. at least today some areas are seeing sunshine. we have got sunshine across the north of scotland, into perth and kinross as well. a wintry scene here with snow on the ground. you can see the brakes coming into scotland, into northern england and wales. it is cloudy in northern ireland. i suspect we will see some sunshine, albeit late in the day.

this is the scene here in coleraine, rather grey skies, with lighter winds than yesterday. stronger winds coming in the northfield, glowing in wintry showers to more central and eastern areas of england and also scotland. dreyer further west. differing amounts of cloud as we ran through the rest of the day. head further south and it is rather grey and gloomy, with wintry showers coming in interspersed with a little sunshine in the north midlands and northern england. the best of the sunshine in scotland but with some heavy wintry showers around. temperatures typically two to 4 degrees. not rising much today and it will feel cold in the wind. a lot of wet weather is coming in of the north sea. that will be rain in places and sleet and snow over the hills. although there could be icy patches given that they will be

temperatures close to freezing, it is the amount of snow across the hills in some northern areas that could cause most of the problems. in general, this weekend will be pretty cloudy with more showers to come, wintry over the hills, driven on by the cold wind. a very cold start in scotla nd the cold wind. a very cold start in scotland and northern ireland. a sharp frost with the cloud pushing in. those showers will work their way further west across the uk. mostly rain, possibly sleep at low levels with rain —— snow across the hills. given that it will be windy, it will feel more like freezing. wrap up well if you are heading to wales and cardiff for the six nations rugby. probably drive. just the small chance of a shower but a cold wind nonetheless. those wins strong, possibly gale force, across sunday, rain across the hills, dryer for scotland and northern ireland, and again it will be cold and feel like freezing. this is bbc news, and these

are the top stories developing at midday. the health secretaryjeremy hunt concedes the nhs in england is facing "completely unacceptable" problems, as some patients were forced to wait up to 13 hours in a&e. i'm doing thisjob because i want nhs care to be the safest and best in the world, and that kind of care is completely unacceptable, no—one would want it for members of their own family. attacks on nhs staff are rising, but the body which advises hospitals about staff security says it may be stopping its work. a self—employed plumber wins a legal battle for basic employment rights against the company he worked. the ruling could affect thousands of others. "see you in court," the words from president trump after a federal appealsjudge refuses to reinstate his ban on travellers from seven mainly muslim countries. council tax in england and wales could be forced

to rise by as much as 5%, as councils struggle to fund services. also this hour distressing scenes in new zealand after hundreds of stranded whales die. conservation staff and volunteers are battling to save 100 that are still alive, in one of the area's worst whale strandings in living memory. and heating up in hawaii — this dramatic footage shows a volcano pouring out lava straight into the pacific ocean. good afternoon, it is friday the 10th of february, i'm rachel schofield, welcome to bbc newsroom live. the health secretary, jeremy hunt, has conceded the nhs in england is facing

"completely unacceptable" problems. he said there was "no excuse" for some of the difficulties highlighted during the bbc‘s nhs week. a series of reports have revealed lengthening waits in a&e and patients being left for hours on trolleys. in an exclusive interview with the bbc, mr hunt told our health editor hugh pym that the government has a plan, but it will take time to deliver. nhs england figures this winter show the worst waiting time performance in a&e units since records began more than a decade ago. jeremy hunt paid tribute to the work of staff, but said the problems of high patient demand were not unique to the nhs, and all leading health systems were grappling with the same challenge. he said there was no silver bullet. i think it's wrong to suggest to people that these profound challenges such as we face with an ageing population are ones where there's a silver bullet that you can solve the problem overnight. we have a very good plan, it has the support of nhs, it will take time to deliver.

asked about bbc coverage this week of patients enduring lengthy waits in a&e and an elderly woman having to spend six months in hospital, because no care home place was available, he said he didn't want to make excuses and these examples were completely unacceptable. it is, you know, incredibly frustrating for me. i'm doing thisjob because i want nhs care to be the safest and best in the world. and that kind of care is completely unacceptable. no—one would want it for members of their own family. he added that problems over the sustainability of social care were now being addressed by the government. but sir robert francis, who carried out an inquiry into the mid—staffordshire scandal, said it was inevitable that the same mistakes would be made again if the current pressure on nhs resources continued. hugh pym, bbc news. the bbc has also learned that the organisation responsible for advising english health trusts

on the security of staff is ending that work, despite a steep increase in attacks on doctors and nurses. nhs protect has confirmed that its role in hospital security will continue only until the end of march. 0ur health correspondent robert pigott has this report. it's been a winter of queueing ambulances and long, tense waits in a&e. as the delays have lengthened, tempers have grown shorter. assaults on nhs staff in england have multiplied to a new high last year of more than 70,000. drjess britton—george has justjoined a hospital where assaults are declining, but she has witnessed several elsewhere. most nhs staff could say at some point or another they have been attacked or felt unsafe at work. it's a running joke in the staff room, "what has happened to me today, i have been hit again," something like that. everyone's on alert, everyone's looking out for the patients they think

are going to kick off. alan, not his real name, works for nhs protect. he claims it has deliberately avoided public discussion about ending its role in protecting staff. i think it is an absolute disgrace we are turning our back on staff in the nhs. they are there to protect the public and we are there to protect them. it will have a material effect in my view, i think assaults will go through the roof. nhs protect said it was consulting staff on proposals "under which our organisation would not be tasked with security management work." it added, "it should be noted that keeping health and secure has always been a responsibility of local nhs employers." but critics claim that without nhs protect‘s help and oversight, trusts will struggle to protect staff. they said there is a creeping acceptance that staff will be attacked, and too little will to protect them. all of this comes at the end of the bbc‘s nhs week, when we've been looking at the problems facing the nhs

in england and across the uk, from social care cuts, pressures on gps and a&e waiting times. let's hear more of what the health secretaryjeremy let's hear more of what the health secretary jeremy hunt told let's hear more of what the health secretaryjeremy hunt told our health editor, hugh pym. 0verall, there are positive things as well as negative things, and there is huge commitment to the nhs to sort out those negative things, and a particular pressure point we have is a&e, and what we need to do is find ways of treating particularly people with complex conditions, older people with dementia, treating them at home or in the community, and that is the big direction of change that we have embarked on. but that is longer—term. what we are seeing in hospitals right now, the scenes we have been showing on the bbc this week, real stress and real strain, the figures out show performance targets the worst since 2004, what can you do about it right now, shouldn't you be doing more? i think it is wrong to suggest to people that these profound challenges such as we face

with an ageing population are ones where there's a silver bullet that you can solve the problem overnight. we have a very good plan, it has the support of the nhs. it will take time to deliver, but in terms of immediate support we're doing what we can with extra financial support to the nhs this year, more doctors, more nurses. but we also need to row in behind people in the nhs who are working very hard to try and sort out those problems, and we also need the public‘s help because we know a number of the people seen in a&es could actually have their needs dealt with in another part of the nhs, and we need to make sure that, as far as we can, we free up people in a&e departments to deal with the most vulnerable patients who have particular needs. there've been cuts to social care funding under your government, hasn't that created the problem we are now seeing? no, and, as i say, there are no excuses and it is completely unacceptable.

what i would say is, on social care, the prime minister has been very clear, we recognise the pressures there, we recognise there is a problem about the sustainability of the social care system, and that has to be addressed. and we're going to do that. more money in the budget? that is for the chancellor and the prime minister. look at what the prime minister said this week, this is an area where there is pressure and if we're going to have a solution, it has to be a long—term sustainable solution and not a quick fix. secretary of state, thank you very much. a man and a woman have died in a house fire in withington in greater manchester. greater manchester police said that a man, and four children aged between ten and seventeen were taken to hospital. the cause of the fire is unknown. we can get more from our correspondent david guest, who is outside the property in withington in greater manchester. what more do we know? it was around 2:30am that the fire service arrived at the detached house behind me to find it well

ablaze. neighbours described seeing fla mes ablaze. neighbours described seeing flames shooting out of the windows, very thick black smoke, one neighbour said she was awoken by the sound of a woman screaming. as we now know, and mannered woman sadly died at the scene, four youngsters, three girls and a boy aged between ten and 17, in hospital this lunchtime. their condition is not thought to be too serious, another man who was in the house is also in hospital, his condition is said to be more serious. throughout the morning there have been comings and goings of forensics in and out of the house to try and establish what has caused this tragedy. the police and fire service have said throughout the morning they will give us an update on what is going on, they have not as yet but we hope to have a news conference in the near future, but this to have a news conference in the nearfuture, but this has to have a news conference in the near future, but this has shocked this quiet residential street in the withington district of manchester. people this lunchtime reallyjust

beginning to grasp the fact of the tragedy that have unfolded on their doorsteps. david, for now, thank you very much indeed. it's emerged that none of the royal navy's seven nuclear powered attack submarines are currently on operations. the sun newspaper is also reporting that four trafalgar class boats are also non—operational. only one of the seven, hms astute, is currently at sea conducting trials. normally at least one of these boats is on operations, but several submarines are having refits or maintenance after breaking down. the ministry of defence says it doesn't comment on specific operations, but that the royal navy "continues to meet all operational tasking." campaigners are at the high court to challenge the government's handling of the arrival of unaccompanied child refugees from europe. ministers have decided to end the scheme once 350 vulnerable children have been admitted. some news comedian in the last hour, french police sources say four people have been arrested by anti—terror police in montpellier in

southern france. they are reportedly being held on suspicion of planning an attack on an unnamed tourist site. we can cross to our correspondent, naomi grimely, who has more on this. they are saying this was an imminent attack? indeed, it sounds like the police believe they have foiled something that was fairly along in its planning. what we know so far is that four people were arrested including a 16—year—old girl and three men. they are believed to have got hold of acetone, which is a highly flammable liquid, and that is significant because that chemical has been used to make something called tatp in the past, including in the attacks in paris and brussels last year, so the suggestion is they we re last year, so the suggestion is they were basically trying to make bombs. what the target was, we do not know.

but, as you mentioned, the police do believe it was a serious plot and something was imminently planned. just a reminder of the pressure that the french government is under the moment, dealing with the whole issue of terrorism? absolutely. 0nly yesterday it was announced that the eiffel tower's going to get a bullet—proof screen around it, a glass reinforced screen, to stop a truck trying to storm the area, and of course last week there was a major security alert at the louvre museum. also to bearin alert at the louvre museum. also to bear in mind is the fact that france is leading up to important presidential elections, so everybody really here is on their guard, not least the police, and it is also important to add that the state of emergency which came into effect after the november 2015 attacks is still in place. it has to be renewed periodically, but it does say

something that originally it was only supposed to be three months and yet here we are, more than a year on, and those special powers for the police and the military remain in place. naomi, thank you very much indeed. the court of appeal has ruled that a big plumbing firm should have granted a worker it regarded as self employed, as having basic worker's rights. gary smith, who worked for pimlico plumbers, brought his case in 2011. the ruling may have implications for other workers in the so—called gig economy. our business correspondent, joe lynam was outside the royal courts of justice in central london. the claimant, gary smith, worked for pimlico plumbers in what looked like self—employment, you paid for his own doors, paid vat, had to correct his own work, but he had to drive a

pimlico plumbers blue van, where the uniform, and if you wanted to work for other people there were severe restrictions. so he brought a case to the employment tribunal when he wa nted to the employment tribunal when he wanted to work fewer hours and wasn't allowed. the employment tribunal said that he was in fact our work and was entitled to back holiday pay and a lot of the protections afforded to employed people. that case was appealed to the court of appeal in the building behind me, in the royal court of justice. a ruling in the last hour that in fact mr smith is a worker and was entitled to compensation for back holiday pay and other things. we spoke to the founder of pimlico plumbers and he said, yes, he will make changes to how his workers are engaged, but with me now is the claimant's solicitor, jacqueline mcguigan, who bought this case to the court of appeal. i suppose congratulations are in order. what does it mean for other people, apart from your client, in this case?”

think it's from your client, in this case?” think its huge. at the moment there are think its huge. at the moment there a re lots of think its huge. at the moment there are lots of cases, we had to be well—known case of uber, with 40,000 drivers, where it is not clear, though they won in the first instance, it is not clear whether they are a worker, that will be appealed so i think this judgment clarifies the different models that there are. we spoke to charlie mullins, the founder of pimlico plumbers, he said he will read the judgment and his legal advice suggests the likely appeal, they may not appeal, but they are likely to appeal to the supreme court, said this battle is not yet over?|j think, as far as we are concerned, mrsmith think, as far as we are concerned, mr smith won think, as far as we are concerned, mrsmith won in think, as far as we are concerned, mr smith won in the deployment tribunal, succeeded again in the employment appeal tribunal, and now in the court of appeal. it is a resounding victory, and the courts are saying the same thing. mr smith was tightly controlled by pimlico plumbers and, as you rightly said, he had to wear the uniform, drive

the van, and really be controlled by the van, and really be controlled by the organisation, and provide personal service. he was not able to work for anybody else. this could have much wider ramifications, we have much wider ramifications, we have already discussed this. is this going to change the so—called the economy, people working at the behest of an app? i think it's huge because in mr smith's case, he was cis, he worked in the building industry, he paid vat, he called himself self—employed, he paid an accountant to do his taxes. without realising that he was a worker entitled to paid holiday, entitled the anti—discrimination law, so i think it's anti—discrimination law, so i think its huge across—the—board. and a wider ramifications, should the government now legislate to bring into effect some of the ruling we heard today? i think the government really needs to look at this because it really is hitting the people at the bottom that are trying to work.

mrsmith didn't the bottom that are trying to work. mr smith didn't have a say in the job offer, he had to simply accept the terms so he couldn't negotiate or change those terms, so i think there has to be consideration in this. jacqueline mcguigan there, thank you very much for helping us, jacqueline bought a case on behalf of gary smith against pimlico plumbers. the ruling will be studied by both sides, it could be appealed to the supreme court for a final filing ruling on this, but there is no question that people engaged in the so—called gig economy will be watching this very, very carefully. the headlines on bbc newsroom live: the health secretary jeremy the health secretaryjeremy hunt concedes the nhs in england is facing " completely unacceptable" problems as some patients were forced to wait up to 13 hours in a&e. as we have been hearing, a self—employed, has won his battle the basic work is right that the court of appeal. the ruling could

affect thousands of others. see you in court, the words from president trump after three federal appealsjudges president trump after three federal appeals judges refused to reinstate his ban on travellers from seven mainly muslim countries. time for the sport now and we can get up—to—date with everything from the world of sport with you. good afternoon, we start with the breaking news that russian gold medallist maria seren over has been stripped of her 0lympic 800 metres title from london 2012. our corresponded richard conwayjoins me now. this is just corresponded richard conwayjoins me now. this isjust more bad news for russian athletics, isn't it? that is right, maria savinova, one of russia's most famous middle—distance athlete, now one of russia's most notorious drug cheats, the court of arbitration for sport ruling today that between july 2010 and august 2013 all her medals, all

her prizes, all the money she has one will be forfeited because of abnormalities in her biological passport, a system which detects over a period of time whether an athlete has been using performance enhancing drugs. savinova had previously been recommended for a lifetime ban by wada, the world anti—doping authority, inquiries, led by dick pound, in december 20 15. so today's news does have consequences, it will see her losers medals from london 2012, as you mentioned, and will see her loser medalfrom 2012, as you mentioned, and will see her loser medal from the barcelona european championships in 2010. that has repercussions for britain's jenny meadows, who will be boosted from bronze medal to silver medal position because of this retroactive

order the savinova to lose her prize money and medals during that period. 0k, thank you very much. the football association of wales will be appealing against sanctions imposed by fifa for displaying poppies during a world cup qualifier. they were fined over £15,000 following commemorations prior to wales' world cup qualifier against serbia in november. fifa took action because fans wore poppies in the stands and the armed forces held bunches of poppies at the side of the pitch. joe root, ben stokes and stuart broad have met with director of cricket, andrew strauss, to discuss the england test captaincy. england have also spoken to jos buttler, who captained england in the one—day series in bangladesh. root, who was vice—captain to previous skipper alastair cook, is the favourite to take over. a new captain will be appointed before england's limited—overs tour of the caribbean in march. broad has previously captained the twenty20 side and stokes was vice—captain in recent short—form matches. great britain will face second—seeds croatia or hungary in the fed cup promotion play—off on saturday. their place was sealed after lativa beat portugal in britain's group

which means gb will top group c. heather watson powered great britain to a 1—0 lead in theirfinal best—of—three match with turkey, beating 163rd—ranked ipek soylu in straight sets. british number one johanna konta has just won the second rubber against world number 86, cagla buyu ka kcay. it took her three sets to do it — 5—7, 6—4, 6—3 the score. england's danny willett is one shot off the lead after the second round at the european tour event in malaysia. the masters champion made six birdies to finish the day on five under par. he trails bernd wiesberger. the austrian made an impressive nine—under—par 63. scotland's marc warren lost the lead after a second round of 75. the overnight leader hit three bogeys and a triple bogey on the last six holes as his three—over round left him on six under. that's all sport for now. i'll have more at 1.30pm.

a federal appeals court in the united states has refused to reinstate donald trump's ban on travellers from seven mainly muslim countries. the controversial immigration reform was suspended last week. but the president appears determined to continue the legal battle, saying on twitter, "see you in court. the security of our nation is at stake!" david willis reports. donald trump's sudden ban on visitors from seven mainly muslim nations caused chaos at airports and sparked protests across the us. then, last week, a districtjudge in seattle granted a stay, and now, a san francisco—based appeals court has backed that stay, citing, amongst other things, the fact nobody from those seven

nations has actually carried out an attack on the us. the decision infuriated donald trump. prompted the leader of one of the states leading the court challenge to reply... an appeal to the highest court in the land, the us supreme court, now seems likely. but that could put the decision in the hands of a court that's currently evenly divided, and a tie would leave the lower court's ruling in place. mr trump maintains his ban is necessary in order to protect the us from the threat of terrorism, but it may yet be proven unconstitutional. and, until he has his day in court, refugees from around the world and citizens of those seven muslim nations can continue to come into this country. david willis, bbc news, washington. a study published today suggest that many councils in england will have to increase taxes to pay for increased social care costs.

the local government information unit has published a report, highlighting the cost pressure facing local councils. the study shows that 94% of councils say they will be forced to increase the local government information unit has published a report, highlighting the cost pressure facing local councils. the study shows that 94% of councils say they will be forced to increase council tax for residents. 80% councils say they have little or no confidence in the sustainability of local government finances, of the councils surveyed, half say that adult social care is their greatest immediate pressure. four out of ten other councils that responded to the survey felt that the public would feel the impact of service cuts, that they were going to see some deterioration in the service they used. one in ten said they were worried they would not be able to meet their core statutory responsibilities, their legal duties. it sounds abstract but those are duties. it sounds abstract but those

a re really duties. it sounds abstract but those are really important things, like looking after elderly people, protecting vulnerable children, the real stuff of everyday life, and thatis real stuff of everyday life, and that is how much pressure there is out there. give us a sense of where that pressure comes from? the biggest pressure on central government finances is —— local government finances is —— local government finances is adult social care. we are living longer and longer, which is a great thing and we should celebrate that in many ways, but if you think the number of people over a deep has doubled in the last 20 years and is set to double again in the next 20 years, and those people need care —— the number of people over 80 has doubled. with me is now is bbc correspondent jane frances kelly. you have been looking at the figures, are greater council tax bills inevitable? i think the era of tax bills coming down all being frozen are probably coming to an end. as you mentioned, 94% of councils questioned said that they will have to raise their bills

by at least 1.5%, and it could theoretically be 5%, and that, for a band d howells, is about £76. that is affecting a group identified by theresa may as her wanting to help them, the just about managing, theresa may as her wanting to help them, thejust about managing, the jams. 74% them, thejust about managing, the jams. 74% of them, thejust about managing, the jams. 74% of council said they are going to have to raise taxes, parking charges, and many say they won't be able to, they fear they would be able to fulfil their statutory obligations and, as you mentioned, the main cause of this, the thing they are saying causes the problem, is social care and finding the money for that. that is followed by housing and homelessness. when people are looking at their own local authority thinking, how much

what am i likely to pay, there are constraints on local government about how much they can put your bill up by? five council said they were looking at possibly spending more than 5% and if you want to do that you have to have a referendum. we have all heard the surrey county council row in which they wanted to increase spending by 15%, they were going to ask their constituents whether they would agree to this, then they backtracked during prime minister's questions time, the labour leader jeremy corbyn read out a few tweets saying, there has been some sort of sweetheart deal, which was never confirmed, the leader of the council said he has been given assurances that this problem will be dealt with. so we are in this very difficult situation where councils are saying they have absolutely no faith, 131 councils responding to this survey saying they have no faith in the system, and then we

have jeremy hunt today, the faith in the system, and then we havejeremy hunt today, the health secretary, saying they are looking at long—term plans at how to integrate health care and social care. but no—one, as yet, has come up care. but no—one, as yet, has come up with a sustainable plan. so we can expect those bills to creep up. thank you much indeed. the volcano in hawaii has started to flow lava straight into the pacific 0cean. let's show you that dramatic footage, this volcano is nicknamed the fire hose and it is pouring love out of the crack in the sea cliff directly into the ocean. the volcano has been active since 1983. pretty hot there but here it is a bit more chilly, and stav has the details out on the balcony. u nfortu nately not details out on the balcony. unfortunately not as hot here, it has been cold and grey for the last

few days and will remain that way today and into the weekend. some sunshine, though, not all doom and gloom. heavy wintry showers, the best of the sunshine today across scotland, more extensive, pushing towards northern ireland as the afternoon wears on. some brightness for west and wales, south—west england but elsewhere thick cloud, wintry showers across northern and eastern areas, some snow today hillsdown to lower levels as well, generally rain and damp, drizzly weather across the south—east. it really will feel cold, temperatures in low single figures fall. 0vernight, more organised showers pushing from the east, rain to the coast, snow to the hills, even down to lower levels for a time. further west, hills, even down to lower levels for a time. furtherwest, dry hills, even down to lower levels for a time. further west, dry with clear skies, so a cold winter, and the risk of ice. we could see modest amount of snow across hills in the north through the course of saturday, it will remain cloudy and cold and the wind becoming a feature

through saturday and sunday. this is bbc newsroom live. the headlines at 11.30. -- 12.30. the health secretaryjeremy hunt concedes the nhs in england is facing ‘completely unacceptable problems considering the long waits in a and e.‘ speaking to the bbc, mr hunt said the key was to treat more people "at home and in the community." the bbc has learnt that the body which advices hospitals about staff security may stop its work — that's despite the number attacks on nhs workers increasing. a plumber has won a legal battle for working rights in the latest significant court ruling over freelance operations in the modern workplace. gary smith wanted to reduce his working days at pimlico plumbers following a heart attack. president trump tweets "see you in court" — that's after a federal court rejects the appeal to reinstate his travel ban from seven predominately

muslim countries. a study published today suggests that many councils in england will have to increase taxes to pay for increased social care costs. the local government information unit has published a report, highlighting the cost pressure facing local councils. the study shows that 94% of councils say they will be forced to increase council tax for residents. 80% of councils say they have little or no confidence in the sustainability of local government finances. and more than of the councils surveyed half say that adult social care is their greatest immediate pressure. joining me now is councillor judith blake form leeds city council. thank you very much for taking the

time to speak to us. what is the picture looking like he needs in terms of an increase in council tax? we are proposing that we take the full amount of increase that we are able to do, which will raise about £8 million, but we reckon that the pressures on the leeds adult social ca re pressures on the leeds adult social care budget are in the region of £15 million for next year, so even with the 3% increase, we are still looking at an approximate £6 million 93p- looking at an approximate £6 million gap. it is unsustainable. we have seenin gap. it is unsustainable. we have seen in leeds, as everywhere else, the incredible keys going into a and e. we have had really serious cancer operations postponed as a result of this. it couldn't be more serious that we are working with local government across the country. councils of all political persuasions are trying to put pressure on the government to try to get them to understand the cuts they have brought in are unsustainable and are contributing massively to the problems the nhs are bathing.

when you try to unpick this, do you think it is a direct result of cuts? is it think it is a direct result of cuts? isita think it is a direct result of cuts? is it a more complex picture to do with the ageing population? how has this developed? with the ageing population? how has this developed ? it with the ageing population? how has this developed? it is a complicated picture. it is notjust older people. it is people with long—term conditions living longer, people with learning difficulties. it is increasing pressure from a changing demographic. but we have been warning for many years now that the cuts to local authorities, and in leeds's case over 40% of our budget has been cut, and the increasing need for adult social care, it is a perfect storm, plus the pressures the nhs themselves are under. we know that many people in the country wa nt to know that many people in the country want to stay at home as long as they possibly can but they need the support packages to be able to do so and for hospitals to be able to release people back into the

community, there needs to be the confidence that the supporters there. there is so much we could do if we were enabled to work together to come up with innovative solutions ata to come up with innovative solutions at a local level. the increase in the council tax precept is frankly just a sticking plaster and it penalises the areas of the country that have got the lowest council tax coming in, which is often the areas with the highest need in terms of aduu with the highest need in terms of adult social care. it's completely unsustainable. we were devastated when in the autumn statement the chancellor didn't make any reference to the nhs or adult social care and these are the areas that everyone knows we are really grappling with and we have got the very graphic pictures now on our television screens every single day and we are urging the government to stop being in denial about this. this is a major problem effecting so many of our most vulnerable people. it's

time for action. we are ready to get round the table to talk about how we can move this forward, but it is urgent. it is not something we can deal with over the next two or three yea rs. we deal with over the next two or three years. we need to start the talks now. what would you be saying? is this purely a financial issue or is it that if you had more autonomy to make decisions... we are all going to be setting our budgets within the next few weeks. we haven't even got the final settlement figures for the budget that we will be bringing in in april. this isjust no budget that we will be bringing in in april. this is just no way to run the finances of local authorities. clearly, there are innovative ways that we can work together to find solutions to the many problems that we have going forward. what is your message to council taxpayers, because of course it is obviously a

question of protecting services for them, but some people will also say it is very painful to me to see this kind of percentage increase on my council tax bill. kind of percentage increase on my counciltax bill. i would kind of percentage increase on my council tax bill. i would say under half of many council leaders this is not a situation of our making. we believe the solution to this should believe the solution to this should be national, fair and equitable and everywhere in the country should have the same opportunity to work it through. we haven't asked for this. this is the only opportunity we have got to get much—needed funds into our budgets and many councils, as you have heard, i reluctantly taking that step. we need to have a national conversation. this is a problem that the government needs to step up and deal with and work with us step up and deal with and work with us in local government to find the solutions that we need. ok, thank you very much indeed for your time today. british gas, one of uk's big six energy suppliers,

has announced it will freeze gas and electricity prices until august. the energy provider said it was able to hold tariffs in the face of higher wholesale prices by reducing its internal costs however, scottish power have followed npower by raising price for its dual fuel prices by an average of 7.8% from the end of march. joining me from our central london studio is claire 0sborne, energy expert at the comparison website uswitch. so, talk us through this decision by british gas and how it stands in contrast to other energy suppliers? what we have seen so far is npower put up their prices by 10%, like you said last week. edf put up their prices recently and today, scottishpower announced a price rise of almost 8%. british gas have bucked that trend by announcing they will extend their price freeze until august, which will come of comfort

to customers on their standard variable tariffs. but when it's almost 25% more expensive than the cheapest tariff on the market, it is little comfort. what do you make up their argument that there are indeed higher wholesale prices but they have managed not to pass those on by reducing their internal costs? is this a marketing strategy? is this something innovative they are doing in their business setup? well, we know that british gas has been creating a lot of efficiencies internally and that's what is enabling their cost reductions. we have seen wholesale costs increased by 36% since april, so it is reassuring for customers that they are going to protect them from those price increases but when standard variable tariffs are 66% of what the uk are on and they are so much more expensive than the cheapest deals on the market, people really shouldn't be accepting these freezes. they should be fixing and protecting

themselves from future price rises. it is natural that we should be expecting our bills to go up with that wholesale price increase though, isn't it? yes, and ofgem announced a few weeks ago that there wasn't any real evidence to support a need for significant price rises from wholesale increases in the market and we would call this a significant increase. what we have seen over the last two years is prices fall and since april, prices have increased. what we would with hope is that when prices are falling in the wholesale market, that the price that consumers pay falls to you. i don't think we have always seen back as quickly as we would like. are you able to undertake any of the economics around the weak pound, talks of brexit and whatnot and whether that has had any effect

on this market? certainly. the uk is a net importer of energy which makes it vulnerable to changes in the monetary market. since brexit, the pound has fallen and that puts pressure on energy prices. there is also the balance of supply and demand in the uk. a brief final thought, what is your advice to someone at home that think they want the best possible deal at this point? absolutely, go and do a comparison to find out what is the best dealfor you. for comparison to find out what is the best deal for you. for customers on npower‘s tariff, they can save over £350 versus the cheapest deal on the market, so i would say either go online and do a comparison or call up online and do a comparison or call upa online and do a comparison or call up a contact centre and someone who can provide you with advice or support on the best deal for you. 0k, claire, thank you very much for speaking to us. claire 0sborne therefrom you switch. more than 400 whales have beached

themselves in new zealand. 0nly more than 400 whales have beached themselves in new zealand. only a quarter were still alive when they we re quarter were still alive when they were discovered. a tragedy rarely seen on such an enormous scale on new zealand's shores. hundreds of volunteers pour water on the survivors while waiting for high tide. this large pod of pilot whales washed ashore on wednesday night at —— on thursday night but darkness meant rescuers could not try to help until friday morning. unfortunately a quarter —— three quarters of the wales had died by then. logistically, this is a massive undertaking. it is one of the largest we have ever seen. just over 100 whales are still alive of all those that beached themselves.

some had successfully refloated at high tide but many reached again. the many hands do not make light work. everyone is trying to help. it is amazing. people from all over the world. three hitchhikers came to see if they could do anything at all. world. three hitchhikers came to see if they could do anything at altm is good to be here and help. if they could do anything at altm is good to be here and helpm if they could do anything at altm is good to be here and help. it is new zealand's largest known whale stranding since 1985 when 450 were stranded in auckland. wales often get stranded in golden bay, the shallow waters making it different for wales to return to deeper water. volu nteers for wales to return to deeper water. volunteers will continue to work through the night, keeping the surviving wales as comfortable as possible before another attempt to refloat them tomorrow. let's look at some of today's other developing stories.

one in five students in independent schools received extra time to complete gcse and a—level exams last year. that's significantly higher than those who received the special measure in state schools where the figure is fewer than one in eight. the difference has come to light following an analysis of official exam data by bbc radio 4's today programme. police in the netherlands say they've seized a quantity of chemicals big enough to produce one billion ecstasy pills. the haul was discovered inside a lorry near the belgian border. it included 100,000 bottles of hydrogen gas and 15,000 kilos of caustic soda. the netherlands is a major manufacturing hub for the drug. hollywood star george clooney and his human rights lawyer wife amal are expecting twins, according to reports from the us. the couple married in venice in 2014. rumours began to circulate last month that mrs clooney was pregnant and the babies are reportedly due in june.

for a full summary of the news you can go to our website bbc.co.uk/news. campaigners at the high court challenging the fact that ministers have denied —— have decided to end the scheme whereby vulnerable child refugees could enter the uk. they have decided to stop the scheme once 300 children have entered. —— 350. leila is outside the royal courts of justice. what is the lay of the land? this was a case brought last year by the charity help refugees, so it predates the government's announcement this week that the number of children will be limited to 350 instead of 3000 but the hearing today is to determine

whether this case will be taken forward and what elements of the case will be taken forward and it has somewhat been overtaken by events. lawyers for the claimant ‘s work arguing that the criteria used to select children, especially from the calaisjungle to select children, especially from the calais jungle refugee camp, to select children, especially from the calaisjungle refugee camp, was unlawful. they called it arbitrary and unnecessarily rigid. they also said the consultation process between the government and local authorities to try to determine which councils could take children and how many they could take was also flawed. mrjustice holman said he would be considering whether that aspect of the case was relevant. his priority was to determine whether the 350 figure, the number of children the government says will be the total amount brought in under the total amount brought in under the scheme, is actually lawful and lawyers for the government said that they would be publishing new criteria to tell, to select the 150

children yet to come in the coming months. ok, i can see you have got problems with your earpiece. i know you will continue to monitor this for us. health secretaryjeremy hunt has conceded the nhs in england is facing "completely unacceptable" problems. he said there was "no excuse" for some of the difficulties highlighted during the bbc‘s nhs week. a series of reports have revealed lengthening waits in a&e and patients being left for hours on trolleys. in an exclusive interview with the bbc, mr hunt told our health editor hugh pym that the government has a plan, but it will take time to deliver. secretary of state, what do you say to nhs patients and staff at this time of extraordinary pressure on them. the first thing i want to say is thank you to the staff of the nhs who are working under extraordinary pressure. the figures we have had out this week show that we had the biggest —— the busiest day in nhs

history in december and. on the front line, that means they get extraordinarily tired, a lot of mental, emotional pressure. a lot of time away from their families, and we all owe them a great debt for the fantastic work they do and i want to recognise that. what they ask me is, what are you doing to help relief that pressure? a lott has happened in recent years. every accident and emergency department in the country has around ten more doctors compared to six years ago, about 100 more nurses in every hospital trust. but when you look at the scale of demand that we have got, the increasing demand that is happening, we clearly need a much more profound change than that, which is why we have embarked on a big programme of transformation. how is it going? think some debts are going very well. we have got good plans in place to improve the capacity of our

gp system. we need to deliver those plans. we are making good progress on mental health and cancer survival rates are going up. other bits are disappointingly slow. the integration of the health and social ca re system, integration of the health and social care system, those are areas where we clearly need to do more, as the prime minister acknowledged this week. you may have plans but the pressure is right here, right now. those plans don't seem to be helping, do they? right here, right now, we have, for example, this year, put nearly £4 billion of extra funding into the nhs, which isjust to give you an idea of the scale of that, that is more than the entire cost of the fire service, just as an increased to nhs funding this year. but even with that, the system is under huge pressure? it is, and that's why it isn'tjust about money. i would say one of the things we need to do better at is learning from the accident and emergency departments that have been coping well. we can see very good practice

in trusts like south warwickshire, dorset, luton and dunstable and we haven't been as good as we did have beenin haven't been as good as we did have been in spreading that best practice around the system. there are also delays in terms of the links to the social care system. it has been difficult discharging people and we need to look at those problems and thatis need to look at those problems and that is all work that is happening. the uk spends a lower share of its national income and france and germany and some other leading nations. haven't you ever government got to face up to the realities? on spending, there is a short—term and long—term issue. spending, there is a short—term and long-term issue. long-term spending falls, doesn't it, on predictions? that is not strictly true. the nhs —— the that is not strictly true. the nhs -- the nfs that is not strictly true. the nhs —— the nfs said at the start of this parliament that there was a bigger increase so they could get going and

then there would be a flat profile at the end of parliament. if you look at france and germany, on the measures that the oh easily be published, on the 35 measures, there are 14 where we do better than france and germany. this winter, france and germany. this winter, france had 1 million people with flu. germany had cities where entire accident and emergency departments in cities were closed on certain nights. so where i would disagree with some of the suggestions in your coverage is the idea that this is unique to the nhs. we are all grappling with the profound changes caused by an ageing population, by consumers with much higher expectations and i think whilst it is absolutely right to scrutinise the problems that we face in the nhs, we also have a duty to recognise some of the successes. this week, for example, we discovered that half the number of children are dying from cancer compared to 1990. that is a huge

success for the nhs. incredibly important to every family with young children. we also discovered for heart attacks that we have nearly doubled the number of people being seen within 90 minutes. there are some very seen within 90 minutes. there are some very important positive things happening. in terms of what is happening. in terms of what is happening now in accident and emergency unit, the bbc is shown images from royal blackburn of people waiting 13 hours, of mothers and babies sitting in the corridor. aren't you embarrassed about that? it is incredibly frustrating for me. iam doing it is incredibly frustrating for me. i am doing thisjob because i want the nhs care to be the best that the safest in the world and that kind of ca re safest in the world and that kind of care is completely unacceptable. no one would want that for their own family. that is happening in a hospital rated good, so what can you do about it? what you have to recognise is that overall, there are positive things as well as negative things and there is huge commitment in the nhs to sort out those negative things and the particular

pressure point we have is accident and emergency. what we need to do is to find ways of treating particularly people with complex conditions. 0lder particularly people with complex conditions. older people with dementia. treating them at home or in the community. that is the big direction of change that we have embarked on. that is longer term. what we are seeing in hospitals right now are the kind of scenes we have been showing this week, real stress, real strain. the figures out show performance targets are the worst since 2004. what can you do about it right now? shouldn't you be doing more? ithink about it right now? shouldn't you be doing more? i think it is wrong to suggest to people that the profound challenges that we face such as an ageing population are ones with a silver bullet that could solve the problem overnight. we have a very good plan that has the support of the nhs. it will take time to deliver. in terms of immediate support, we are doing what we can with extra financial support to the nhs this year, more doctors, more

nurses, but we also need to grow in behind the people in the nhs who are working very hard to express. we also need the public‘s help because we know a number of the people seen in accident and emergency could be dealt with in another part of the nhs and we need to make sure that i sure as we can “— nhs and we need to make sure that i sure as we can —— as far as we can, we free up those in accident and emergency to deal with the most vulnerable older patients who have particular needs. there have been cuts to social care funding under your government. has that created the problem we are now seeing and what do you say to the family of high risk sibley, featured on the today programme, who had to wait six months in hospital before she could get a care home place?|j months in hospital before she could get a care home place? i don't want to make any excuses for that. that is totally u na cce pta ble. to make any excuses for that. that is totally unacceptable. it is terrible for mrs sibley but it is also terrible for the nhs because... it's not the only case of its kind. no, and as i say, i don't make any

excuses for it. it is totally unacceptable. the priming minister has been totally clear. we recognise there is a problem with social care, with the sustainability of the system and that has to be addressed. we are going to do that. more money in the budget? that is for the pie minister and the chancellor but look at what the prime minister said this week. if we are going to have a solution, it needs to be a long—term, sustainable solution and not a quick fix. secretary of state, thank you very much. thank you. at 230 this afternoon we will be answering your questions and suggestions on nhs finances, asking if the nhs budget needs to be bigger and whether perhaps money could be spent more efficiently. if you want to be involved, please tweet us or e—mail. ina to be involved, please tweet us or e—mail. in a moment, the news that one, but first, the weather. things are set to turn maybe a

little bit milder as we head into next week, but the next couple of days will be cold and grey with rain, sleet and snow in the forecast. here is the satellite picture. the site swathe the country is probably going to see the best of the weather, but elsewhere it will be cold and grey. across the south, a lot of dry weather, but it will be cloudy. maybe a little bit of brightness developing across the south west, but for the majority, a cold, grey, damp, misty, murky day with some sleet and snow mixed into that, particularly over the higher ground of northern england in the pennines and towards eastern scotland. some sunny spells here, the best of the brightness for scotland, getting into northern ireland in the afternoon. it will be cold for everyone, particularly in the wind. the showers continue overnight, generally with rain to the coast, but further inland we see

rain -- the coast, but further inland we see rain —— some snow, so don't wake up if you —— don't be surprised if you wa ke if you —— don't be surprised if you wake up to a light covering. the weekend will be cloudy, quite dismal, with wintry showers continuing and a cold easterly breeze, particularly on sunday. this will bring more organised showers across saturday and on sunday, see how the isobars squeezed together, so it will be windy, but we will start to pick up slightly less cold airfrom the near start to pick up slightly less cold air from the near continent. scattered showers on saturday, down from the hills at times, before retreating back there as the slightly less cold air moves in from the east. another cold, grey day, especially if you are out in the wind. 0n especially if you are out in the wind. on sunday again, rain, sleet and snow, mainly a field feature by sunday, and a really raw feeling

day. temperatures up a degree but add in the strong wind and it certainly won't feel like it. into next week, like i mentioned, signs something a little less cold moving up something a little less cold moving up from the south, so by the middle of next week we could be seeing highs of 10 degrees. the health secretary acknowledges that patients are facing "completely unacceptable" delays at hospitals in england. butjeremy hunt says the nhs is not alone in dealing with growing patient numbers. it is wrong to suggest to people that these profound challenges such as the ones we face of an ageing population other ones with a silver bullet where you can solve that problem overnight. the bbc has spent the week highlighting some of the difficulties facing the nhs. we'll be speaking to our health editor about what's been uncovered. also, many areas in england and

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